Do you have trouble remembering the difference between Deathbringer the Adorable and Fluffy the Terrible?
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Useful Tips:
- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
I don't think it fits, either. I support its removal.
135 - 158 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300Repost from Previous Page:
Fetishized Abuser has this entry that I guess is a remnant of the move from Bastard Boyfriend? Is this just Jerkass? The work page calls him a Domestic Abuser, which might fit better?
- The Outside Circle: Dennis, the boyfriend of Pete and Joey's mother, is a drug addict who sold all of Pete's family's belongings, prseumably for more drug money. When Pete confronts him about it, Dennis slashes him across the face with a knife. Pete's response is to shoot him dead.
Also, is this Ambiguous Syntax for Fridge.Epic Battle Fantasy?
- The Beholder's attack in the fourth game leads to this quote:
Natz: Eww. I hope I don't get pregnant from this again.
- But it's also possible that what she meant by that was:
"I didn't get pregnant from the last time it did this, and I hope my luck holds out this time, too!"
- But it's also possible that what she meant by that was:
Edited by Malady on Dec 12th 2022 at 1:21:19 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576It's a contrived enough reading that we wouldn't see it as an example unless the work made a play on it.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.On Characters.Infinity Train Cult Of The Conductor, this listed under Simon's folder.
Bad People Abuse Animals: Murders Tuba with a grin on his face and mocking her for not being human.
1. Does Bad People Abuse Animals count if the animal is depicted with complete human sapience. Because Tuba is shown to have human-like intelligence and can speak.
2. This is just outright murder, not abuse.
I’m gonna put some Gloom in your eye.I was recalling a scene from Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, and was debating which trope it belongs under. The scene is:
- Wilbur Grey: That's gonna cost you overtime because I'm a union man and I work only sixteen hours a day.McDougal: A union man only works eight hours a day.Wilbur Grey: I belong to two unions.
Comically Missing the Point on Costello's part, or just Insane Troll Logic?
Until next time...
Anon e Mouse Jr.
GenericGuy2000: Are people surprised that Tuba can talk or does everyone see it as normal thing?
ValdoIt's a completely normal thing giving the setting, where talking bodies of water are considered normal. Tuba is basically human in all but appearance.
I’m gonna put some Gloom in your eye.Huh, well I think that the example doesn't count then. Bad People Abuse Animals appears to apply to creatures who can't even understand human languages and are defenseless (The Trope event mentioned that people tend to consider dangerous animal exceptions) Tuba is not defenseless, and it's practically human, so yeah.
Edited by SoyValdo7 on Dec 12th 2022 at 6:56:00 AM
ValdoI will say that killing animals is just as much animal abuse as other forms of abuse is, but if Tuba is basically a human then I don't think it counts.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure PurenessAnone Mouse Jr: Maybe try to take it to Trope Finder.
ValdoI will say that killing animals is just as much animal abuse as other forms of abuse is
Okay maybe I worded that a little poorly, but thanks for the feedback. Example is cut now.
I’m gonna put some Gloom in your eye.Whole Costume Reference example in Power Rangers Dino Charge doesn't refer who's the costume based on and the last sentence seems kinda complaining (I don't know the meaning of the last words). Does anyone know the reference or cut it?
- Whole Costume Reference: Tyler's prince outfit doesn't scream Prince William so much as beat you in the face with it.
Prince William? Do they mean the heir to the British throne (and does he have a "costume"?) or is there a fictional Prince William that they forgot to provide context for?
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meFound under Doing in the Scientist:
- In the comics, Spider-Man's webs are made from an artificial chemical and Spidey fires them with a wrist device of his own invention. However, in the Sam Raimi films (and the earlier failed adaptation by James Cameron), the web is naturally created and fired directly from Spidey's wrists as a result of a mutation caused by him being bitten by a genetically-engineered spider. The Amazing Spider-Man and the Marvel Cinematic Universe return to the comics' mechanical device.
I mean technically, both of these are science (fiction) since there is absolutely no magic involved with either of these, so I don't see any scientist done in here.
Edited by antenna_ears on Dec 12th 2022 at 10:46:58 AM
Agreed, everything about the radioactive spider bite is Hollywood Science anyways. Growing the spidersilk shooters genetically versus a teenager whipping together a revolutionary adhesive is pretty much the same.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meI can only assume the example is referring to Prince William of The British Royal Family and this wedding outfit of his. Clip from the show with Tyler's prince outfit here.
I say that it's a zero context example because it doesn't say how the clothes are similar. I don't know this work, but at least there are names I can look up to flesh it out, but it's entirely advised to write out examples in a way that others don't need to do a Google search for context. Here's my suggested rewrite:
- Whole Costume Reference: Tyler's prince outfit is very identical to Prince William's, a red tunic with golden buttons down the middle and a blue sash over the left shoulder.
I agree too, that's not magic.
Edited by BlackFaithStar on Dec 13th 2022 at 2:58:19 AM
So I can rewrite it with your version of the example? Also what's the meaning of the last sentence of the Whole Costume Reference?
Edited by Bubblepig on Dec 12th 2022 at 11:05:04 AM
“What is that? It's The Unknown!”The example was using a figure of speech to say "it's so obvious that this prince outfit is based off of Prince William" but the example still failed to say how the clothes are similar.
You're free to use my rewrite of the example if you see fit.
No problem, glad I could help
Edited by BlackFaithStar on Dec 13th 2022 at 3:31:23 AM
I think your example has enough context and fits enoug. I will replace the old example with yours. Thanks.
“What is that? It's The Unknown!”Example is zero-context and doesn't mention the part where the in-comic justification for his suddenly growing organic spinnerets was that he was claimed as the champion of an animistic spider god (if I remember right, I haven't personally read them).
The Revolution Will Not Be TropeableI want to write a trope about The Sooty Show about Sooty using hypnosis to make sure Sweep, Soo and Matthew are not afraid of the thing they fear the most, however, whenever they hear a trigger word, eg. Jodhpurs, they will act strange. When Sweep hears Soo say "Jodhpurs", he begins acting like a chicken, and when Matthew hears the word "Congratulations", he begins to act like a mouse, which ended up scaring his customer, Mo off because she is afraid of mice.
Hypno Fool: In the Sooty and Co episode "Sooty's Magical Solutions", Sooty uses his magic wand to hypnotise Sweep and Matthew so that they're not afraid of the dark and birds respectively. However, when they hear a certain word, "Jodhpurs" for Sweep and "Congratulations" for Matthew, they begin to think they're a chicken and mouse respectively. Matthew acting like a mouse ended up scaring Mo off because she has a phobia of mice.
Edited by Agent2583 on Dec 13th 2022 at 9:57:59 AM
I say your example is fine.
Well, the entry could certainly be rewritten to explain why the red hair is a significant choice, but there's nothing significant about the eyes being green, so that's only half the trope. The biggest problem, however, is that the trope states it can't be used for World of Technicolour Hair works, and this show is a World of Technicolour Hair work.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.From Trivia.Hilda The Witch:
- Image Song:
- Hilda: M'Lover (Kishi Bashi)
- Frida: We Are Giants (Lindsey Stiriling)
- David: David: Rise (Jonas Blue)
- Twig: Dirty Paws (Of monsters and men)
- Johanna: Wild Flowers (The Wailin' Jennys)
- Callum: What I’ve Done (LINKIN PARK)
- Ezrah: Touch off (UVE Rworld)
- Tontu: Nuclear (Mike Oldfield)
- Erik: Be Prepared (Lion King)
- Gerda: Not The Villain (S. J. Tucker)
- Bran: Dark side of the moon (Levi's character song from A.O.T)
- Maven: Running With The Wolves (AURORA)
- Cadmus: Hope of mankind (Erwin's character song from A.O.T)
- Antioch: Rusty honesty (Jean's character song from A.O.T)
- Petra: Tik Tok (KESHA)
- Ignotus: Fly me to The Moon (Frank Sinatra)
- Kludd: I’m Just a Kid (simple plan)
- Theon: Thunder (Imagine dragons)
- Annie: Keep holding on (Avril Lavinge)
- Ziggy: Monsters (All time low)
- Scarlett: I love it (Icona pop)
- Renolds: Machine (Imagine dragons)
- Rikard: Into the unknown (Panic! At the disco)
None of this song was made for these characters or the character sings, appears in the music video of the song or anything like that. They were simply arbitrary chosen by the author.
Valdo
Sandbox.Mario Party Singular Games has the following example for Non-Standard Game Over, in reference to Mario Party 9:
The thing is, as the example notes, losing a board to Shy Guy or Kamek is actually the only "losing" condition in Solo mode, something that the game is fairly upfront about from the start. Does that invalidate the example?
Ever wanted to see the most inexplicably horrifying intro to a game ever?