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Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking for an Article.

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

Ruderuby Since: Jul, 2022
#11601: Sep 3rd 2023 at 9:19:13 AM

Would this be a good main page quote for Ominous Clouds, since it doesn't have one yet?

Is it me or do those clouds look super-evil?
Gill Grunt, Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure Launch Trailer

(I did already make a seperate quote page for the trope and already added the quote above there. If this gets promoted to main page quote, then feel free delete the quotes page)

Edited by Ruderuby on Sep 3rd 2023 at 6:34:58 PM

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#11602: Sep 3rd 2023 at 9:46:54 AM

[up] Used your quotes page entry to fix the quote format, but I'd be fine with it as a page topper.

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#11604: Sep 4th 2023 at 12:08:42 PM

Good Stepmother’s image and quote are from the same source. The image looks pretty good to me (and the trope seems like it’d be hard to find a decent replacement for) so unfortunately the quote is on the chopping block. I like this from the quotes page:

Hey I might not really be your mother
That don't mean that I don't really love ya
And even though I married your father
That's not the only reason I'm here for ya
Alicia Keys: "Blended Family (What You Do For Love)"

Edited by loserswithwifi on Sep 5th 2023 at 8:23:13 PM

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#11605: Sep 5th 2023 at 9:49:40 AM

The quote on Playing Sick doesn't seem to be the most descriptive on its own. Keep, or remove?

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Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
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#11606: Sep 5th 2023 at 10:03:14 AM

[up] What about adding more lines? It's a whole long poem about how she claims she has basically every illness in the world.

"I cannot go to school today,"
Said little Peggy Ann McKay.
"I have the measles and the mumps,
A gash, a rash, and purple bumps."

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#11610: Sep 6th 2023 at 3:14:14 PM

Which I think is better, but I don't think quite emphasizes the quiet theatricality expected of the trope, rather just how it can be really intimidating. Thoughts or suggestions?

It's been a while since I've watched Die Hard, but Alan Rickman was a Cold Ham for a lot of that film. Are there any quotes from there that would be suitable?

Or possibly this, which was a discussion about that on QI.

John Sessions: It's sort of a high octane version of an English villain, which is to get an English villain to play a German villain.
Stephen Fry: Yes! As in the Die Hard films!
John Sessions: As in the Die Hard film, which always has some my favourite dialogue of our great friend Alan Rickman; what he says after he shot the man's head off. [monotone] "Mr. Takagi, I will count to three. There will. Not. Be. A four." And then he shoots the guy's head off! And then he goes downstairs later, and he goes [monotone] "Mr. Takagi won't be joining us for the rest of his life."
QI

Edited by Wyldchyld on Sep 6th 2023 at 11:36:51 AM

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#11611: Sep 7th 2023 at 5:43:32 AM

The current quote on Me's a Crowd has little to do with the actual trope and is probably contributing to the widespread misuse as "Self-Duplication but with a funnier name".

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#11612: Sep 7th 2023 at 6:04:36 AM

Last night I added this quote to Digital Destruction, but after sleeping on it, I think I need help deciding whether or not it looks too complain-y and redundant (the latter because the image already illustrates this):

"For many years, Cinderella was not the right colors. Her hair [is] dusty blonde, and her dress is silver. And over the years, we’ve seen her hair look the color of Cheez Whiz. We’ve seen her dress be bright blue. We’ve seen all sorts of stuff."
Eric Goldberg, explaining why Cinderella's 2005 restoration was deemed unsuitable for 4K releases.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#11613: Sep 7th 2023 at 11:24:04 AM

[up][up]

There aren't a lot of good options on the quotes page for Me's a Crowd. What about this (not from the quotes page)?

Blue Prue: That was Claire calling. She said that if I, well, one of us, don't get to the office pronto, you'll be looking for a new job.
Real Prue: Okay, okay, we can swing this.
Piper: No, no, no, wait. You're not seriously thinking of leaving the house?
Phoebe: You can't hide three 'you's at the office.
Blue Prue: Two of us may not be able to separate Gabriel from his sword but we can certainly fight him off.
Pink Prue: Which means two of us can go save Prue's job and whoever's left behind can go to the Quake with Piper.
Charmed, Which Prue Is It, Anyway?

It could possibly be trimmed to start from Phoebe's line.

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#11615: Sep 7th 2023 at 3:13:28 PM

Any concerns if I pull this one from ComicBook.One More Day?

"Enjoy the world as it is for as long as you can. For you will only have it for one more day. You will not consciously remember this bargain or this moment, or the life you lived to this point. But there will be a small part of your soul that will remember, that will know what you lost. And my joy will be in listening to that part of your soul screaming throughout eternity. You have until midnight tomorrow to say yes. At that instant, you will either lose your marriage or your aunt. Either way, the world you know, the world you care about and fought so hard to protect... will be at an end."

The devil offering Spider-Man a choice between saving his marriage and his aunt is one of the final twists, almost the end of the story, and the page isn't Spoilers Off, even if the ending's pretty infamous now.

The intro and other points mention it without tagging too, but I think that needs cleanup as well.

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#11616: Sep 7th 2023 at 8:16:18 PM

Yeah, that seems sensible to me.

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#11617: Sep 7th 2023 at 8:17:15 PM

Quick question, how do we format quotes from fanfics and other types of literature? I'm talking about special cases like the one I was going to add to the fanworks folder on the quotes page for Papa Wolf:

"I... have one rule," Peter B. said coldly, "Nobody dies." He stepped up, balling his hands into fists. "I will BREAK it if you touch a hair on her head."
Peter B. to Miguel after he threatens to take Peter's infant daughter away from him, Cracks In Canon


EDIT: I'm an idiot who should've elaborated earlier. By "how do we format this" I meant to ask how we're supposed to handle both speech from the characters and the text describing the situation. I saw a quote for Crazy Jealous Guy that separated it based on which character was speaking.
"Hey guys, come quick! Jean's getting home with her date." Hank motioned from his location at the telescope. "Second week in a row." He trailed off a moment, staring through the eyepiece. "So that's Josh. They must be getting along fairly well, if they're going out for a second weekend."
Warren got to the telescope first. "So that's Dorkboy. I think he's really gotta go."
Hank took the telescope back from Warren. "Let’s see, letterman, three sports, band pin, I think — I can't really be sure about that one. Fairly tall, dark hair, and well built. I agree with Warren's assessment. Dorkboy's gotta go, my fine fellows."
I realize while typing this that I could just leave the proposed quote as is, as it's only one character, but this might still be useful to know for future reference.

Edited by RainbowPumpqueen on Sep 8th 2023 at 6:37:00 PM

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#11618: Sep 8th 2023 at 1:43:28 PM

Wants Versus Needs is on the right track, but I'd like to suggest a part of the song that I think describes the trope better than simply the Title Drop.

And you might believe you know your truth
But truth can oft' be lies
And you might just be surprised by what you need

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#11619: Sep 9th 2023 at 12:32:00 PM

For Doom, I think I like the full quote instead of the snippet we have:

"Some of you in a previous life may have held childish notions of God and the kingdom of heaven. This ugly representation of a spiritual nirvana was designed to control you, to placate your natural feelings of hate and rage, to subdue your realization of your place in this universe. By embracing science, you took the first steps towards freedom from these intellectual chains. By dedicating yourself to the development of Argent Energy, you cemented your place in the next age. Now let us tell you about the real heaven. The real kingdom of the gods is a place that you will never reach, and you should never wish to. No human will ever visit the sacred ground of Argent D'Nur, unless they are made a god by the dark lords. Humanity's only purpose, and reward, is to serve the ascension of the Imperatrix and protect the Crucible. You will be destroyed by the demons, while I will be made a god. My immortality is assured, while you will writhe in perpetual agony at the bottom of the darkest hole in Hell. You will be forgotten. Your life, your loved ones, your achievements and failures are nothing. A blank space on the canvas of time. Thank you for your service. May you rot in Hell."
Olivia Pierce, Doom (2016)

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#11621: Sep 11th 2023 at 8:14:19 PM

I don't really understand the quote on Doppelgänger Replacement Love Interest.

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#11622: Sep 11th 2023 at 9:33:06 PM

The second line is the only one that I think suggests the trope, but I think it's possible to do better. Here are some from downpage:

Ortega: I look into his eyes, but I see you staring back at me.

The Doctor: There is a chance... back on my world... Jackie Tyler might still be alive.
Pete Tyler: My wife died.
The Doctor: Her husband died. Good match.

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#11623: Sep 12th 2023 at 10:34:47 AM

I think the Doctor Who quote does the best of including the doppelganger aspect to the quote. The other quotes are not as clear on this point. Even in the Doctor Who quote, it's not fully laid out, but you can pick it up more easily, given that the two characters share the same last name.

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#11624: Sep 12th 2023 at 9:57:47 PM

The Doctor Who one works.

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#11625: Sep 13th 2023 at 10:26:12 AM

I deleted the page quote for Character Perception Evolution per Kingdom Hearts forum.

It's interesting how the fandom's view of Xehanort has shifted. He's gone from a villain with gravitas, weight, personality... to a punchline.

This was misuse then getting more/less popular in later works, while CPE is about their depictions works prior to the change being re-evaluated.

Besides that retroactively re-evaluation criteria, I believe a good quote should cover both versions, the increase/decrease in popularity.

On that, there's the page quote Evil Has a Bad Sense of Humor.

"Well, give the man a hand!"'
Clarence Boddicker after dismembering Officer Murphy's hand in RoboCop (1987)

This only covers the "Sick Sense of Humor" kind, while EHBSOH also has a "No Sense of Humor" category. Thoughts if this would be better at covering them both? (Can't recall if I asked about this before, let me know if I did.)

"'Fun' isn't something one considers when balancing the universe. But this... does put a smile on my face."

Also, Quotes.Evil Has A Bad Sense Of Humor is split between "No" and "Sick" Sense folders. Do we want that (as I don't believe any other tropes with multiple categories split them such)?

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