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Trivia / Fantastic Four (2005)

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  • Actor-Inspired Element:
    • Julian McMahon, who plays Doctor Doom, suggested that metal staples be used to help stitch the scar at the beginning of his transformation. This comes from McMahon's experience playing a cosmetic surgeon on Nip/Tuck, making it also a subtle Actor Allusion.
    • Ioan Gruffudd suggested that Reed constantly be taking notes.
  • Approval of God: Stan Lee said that Michael Chiklis' portrayal of The Thing was his favourite performance in any Marvel film. It was however not the case with Victor.
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  • Better on DVD: The Extended Edition, which includes all deleted scenes (such as Ben and Alicia's romance) is a much better watch than the theatrical release.
  • Creator Backlash:
  • Disowned Adaptation: While Stan Lee loved Michael Chiklis' performance as the Thing, he was not a fan of how the films portrayed Dr. Doom, as he felt Victor was changed too much from his depiction in the comics.
  • Doing It for the Art: One of Chiklis' requirements for accepting the role of the Thing was that his character would be make-up based, rather than the CGI everyone else had previously assumed. This meant that Chiklis insisted upon hours of application and wearing heavy, uncomfortable makeup, over the option that would have allowed him to earn the same money in significantly less time simply by voice acting. Why? Because Chiklis was a fan who knew that underneath the rock skin, Ben Grimm's still a human being, and this was best shown by having his actor go through the same thing. The production team thought that Chiklis would have to ADR his lines due to the heavy prosthetics and oversized teeth he'd have to wear. Instead, he spent hours reading to his children while wearing the teeth until he became fully intelligible. Once again, it was because Chiklis felt that being able to perform in the moment with his co-stars was best way to convey the character of Ben Grimm rather than having to perform the part in a booth. Apparently, Chiklis' wife came by the set unexpectedly one day to see him. He was in the full body suit and makeup at the time, and she was totally unprepared for seeing him like that. She found it so distressing that she had to be escorted from the set in order to compose herself. It worked.
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  • Dyeing for Your Art: Jessica Alba dyed her hair blonde for the first film, but wore a wig for the second.
  • Fake American:
    • Welsh Ioan Gruffudd as Reed Richards.
    • Australian Julian McMahon as Victor Von Doom.
  • Fan Nickname: Gah Lak Tus is derisively referred to as Cloudlactus here, for randomly being turned into a giant cloud in this adaptation.
  • Follow the Leader: This film was made after the success of Spider-Man. It goes for a similarly lighthearted tone and there's more than a passing resembling between Dr. Doom's story-arc from this film and Norman Osborn's from that one.
  • Franchise Killer: The Silver Surfer spinoff never happened. That movie also halted the film franchise as a whole for 8 years until Fox tried to reboot it in 2015, which became a completely different story.
  • Meaningful Release Date: It was originally supposed to be released on July 4, 2005, and early trailers played this up. However, its release date was shifted to four days later.
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  • Promoted Fanboy: Michael Chiklis has been a comic book fan since he was a kid. Guess which one was his favorite.
  • Technology Marches On: In the second movie Reed is shown using a very clunky looking ultraportable, a type of computer design that looked dated within a couple of years of the movie's release due to netbooks, smartphones, tablets and ultrabooks.
  • Throw It In!: Chris Evans improvised most of his dialogue in the first movie, such as the "Aw, look — she's kissing him.", which fits seamlessly in the scene as for the benefit of Alicia, who was standing right next to him (she's blind).
  • What Could Have Been:
    • Hugh Jackman was initially offered the role of Reed Richards before Ioan Gruffudd was cast, but turned it down due to his commitments to the X-Men Film Series. Funnily enough, Jackman would have a cameo in the film as Wolverine when Reed accidentally morphs into him.
    • Ali Larter, Julia Stiles, Kate Bosworth, Rachel McAdams, Elizabeth Banks, and Scarlett Johansson were considered for the part of Susan Storm before the casting of Jessica Alba. Johansson would later go on to portray Natasha Romanoff in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
    • Paul Walker was considered for the role of Johnny Storm before Chris Evans was cast.
    • James Gandolfini, David Boreanaz, and Nathan Fillion were considered for the part of Ben Grimm before the casting of Michael Chiklis.
    • Tim Robbins was considered for Doctor Doom before Julian McMahon was cast.
    • Chris Columbus, Raja Gosnell, Peter Segal, and Peyton Reed were offered to direct the film before Tim Story was hired. When Columbus was approached, he expressed interest in casting Dennis Quaid and Meg Ryan as Reed Richards and Susan Storm due to them being a married couple at the time. Reed would eventually go on to direct Ant-Man and Ant-Man and the Wasp set within the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
    • Michael Chabon unsuccessfully pitched a story idea which was to be set in an Alternate History that, tonally, "was forever November 21st, 1963" and, plot-wise, was to involve Doctor Doom travelling back in time to assassinate a key world figure in order to remake the world into a grim dystopia that was pretty much the real world. Soviet agents were also going to be involved somehow.
    • Had Fox not rebooted the franchise a third time, they could've made a third film in this series, as the cast was signed on for a three-picture deal, and director Tim Story was interested in making said film. Among possible/planned developments for the film were:
      • Alicia Masters would've had more screentime, and according to Chiklis, her relationship with Ben would've had a bigger focus.
      • Djimon Hounsou would've portrayed Black Panther (an ally of theirs in the comics). Djimon would later go on to portray Korath the Pursuer in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (as well as the Fisherman King and the Wizard in the DC Extended Universe), and Black Panther later got adapted in the MCU, portrayed by Chadwick Bosemannote . It's also possible that this could've led to the films becoming a Shared Universe with the X-Men Film Series, since Black Panther is married to Storm in the comics, not to mention Fox owning the rights to both.
      • Julian McMahon would've returned as Dr. Doom, having been signed on for a 3-picture deal (like the rest of the cast). Whether he would've taken the role of Big Bad a third time is unknown.
      • Jessica Alba expressed interest in introducing Franklin Storm.
      • Beau Garret wished to return as Frankie Raye (Johnny's girlfriend).
      • The late Don Payne (writer of Rise of the Silver Surfer, who would later go on to write Thor: The Dark World) mentioned that while he never discussed a sequel, he did have a love for the Inhumans, the Skrulls, the Puppet Master, Annihilus, and the Negative Zone. Combined with the aforementioned statement about Alicia having more screentime, it's likely that the third film would've featured The Puppet Master (her father, and a longtime villain of the Four) in some capacity. Though it's unclear if the Puppet Master would also have been black, since he remained white in the 2005 video game adaptation.
    • For that matter, Story has said he would've been up for directing not just a third film, but a fourth film as well. It's likely because Fox felt that a third Story Fantastic 4 movie wouldn't be worth the investment that led them to reboot the franchise and give it to Josh Trank (ironically, his film ended up being a Box Office Bomb).
    • Nick Fury was originally planned to be in Rise of the Silver Surfer, but Fox eventually did not want to pay more money to get the film rights for the chraracter, so General Hager was made instead; however, some of Fury's lines from Ultimate Destruction #3 were used for this character.

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