Why Fandom Can't Have Nice Things
"The people on the Internet who complain about the show were going to hate it no matter what I did, so I don't really care about their opinions."
Related to Dear Negative Reader
and Writer Revolt
, this is when someone who is involved in the production of a work and is known for interacting with the fans by, for example, writing a production blog or answering fandom's questions, or regularly appearing at conventions, stops doing so because, at least in their opinion, some fans
become so thick and heavy
) that their previously fun activity has become a burden and is no longer enjoyable.
The fans complain to and about the creator, hassle them to an unbearable level, constantly asking questions that the creator has already stated they will not be answering, and constantly doing unspeakable things. Because a small handful
are ruining it for everyone else, the creator stops whatever fun interaction with the fans they were having. This tends to give people the impression that said creator is a Nice Character, Mean Actor
(or just a nice work, mean creator in general), even though it wasn't the fault of the creator at all.
Even worse, the fans in question tend to somehow feel they have a right
to run completely roughshod over the creator, and that any complaints from him are not only unjustified but deserve to be punished by further bad acts. Intentional uploading or downloading of pirated versions of their work, flooding of comments sections with abusive, ridiculous, or obscene posts, posting one-sided rants about how much of an asshole the creator is and urging other people to do their part to screw them over as well, outright hacking or DDoSing of their official page, you name it - if they feel that the creator did them wrong, they will feel totally justified in being colossal assholes. Dealing with a preponderance of this bullshit presents a catch-22 as well; if the creator soldiers on and continues to focus on the fans who aren't dickheads, they'll be accused of not listening to the "real fans" and/or outright trying to spite them, but if they say, "fuck it, I've had enough, you've ruined it for yourselves and everyone else" and pull out, then they'll be treated as cowards attempting to abdicate responsibility to their fans, and their explanation for departing will be treated as sour grapes as best and an attempt to blame others for their own shortcomings and evidence that they never cared about their fans at worst.
This is especially
bad towards things that people actually do as a hobby, or out of personal enjoyment. Many a rant has been made by harassed creators/producers/personalities/celebrities who state that they actually could be off doing better things and not putting up with Fan Dumb
/ Hate Dumb
, or that their life is already stressful enough with their other job(s) that they really don't need to come home from a long day's work just to be hassled by entitled bastards
. And many a rant towards pirates have been made saying that they actually need to make money or else they won't be able to produce further installments.
Complaints often arise from Schedule Slip
. It's been pointed out that very few people who do webcomics (for example) actually make money
off of them, with most of them doing it as a hobby. When things in real life pop up, such as health issues, it's always the webcomic that has to go first.
to Why We Can't Have Nice Things
. Common tropes that result in this include Unpleasable Fanbase
, Internet Backdraft
, Fan Dumb
, and Hate Dumb
. Be Careful What You Wish For
is often invoked. Can sometimes result to an Internet Counterattack
and Complaining about Complaining
, making things worse. Very often a case of Nice Job Breaking It, Hero
on the part of the fanbase. In some cases, this tends to induce a Creator Breakdown
, in some cases ending in a take that from the author to the fanbase
within the work, sometimes in the presence of a Straw Fan
. If it proceeds beyond that
, it can ultimately end in the author simply quitting the whole work, and sometimes retiring from writing altogether
One of the many wonderful results of GIFT
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- Fanfiction authors have sometimes been known to remove fanfics due to flame wars and Ship-to-Ship Combat happening in their reviews, or being sent offensive emails about ships the mailer does not like.
- The number of artists and designers who make fan art, indie games, etc, who have up and quit due to being hassled or stalked by fans could fill an entire page on this site if someone took the time to compile it.
- The Creator (Haley) of The Reid Oliver Cartoon Saga, based on the popular As the World Turns character Reid Oliver stopped making the cartoons shortly after the show ended because she found out someone else was profiting from her work and claiming it as their own. Pretty sad considering the actor playing Reid admitted that he had liked the cartoons he had seen.
- Be The Seadweller Lowblood: ckret2 posts a poll to determine which character is shown next. Options are tied for quite a while, then one choice suddenly takes over. ckret2 decides foul play is involved, takes neither popular option, and stops with the polls.
"There is no way that many people have voted, MUCH LESS that it stayed that perfectly tied for so long, MUCH LESS that the votes suddenly jumped up for one side that much. I KNOW there were some people who voted specifically to make it balance out, rather than vote for what they actually WANTED. Some of y'all in here admitted that. Clearly, someone else is spamming Vriska now. Fuck this shit. You're not getting Vriska or Kanaya. You're especially not getting Vriska, since it's at least confirmable that there is somebody cheating in her favor, if not that there are folks cheating in both's favor...Way to go! We're never having a vote again."
- Durandall once deleted Kyon Big Damn Hero from Fanfiction.net, and even left that site altogether, because of criticism (not of his work, but of himself) that he received from some users of the site. He later realized that this was Disproportionate Retribution, apologized, and reuploaded the fic.
- Fanfiction writer Worldmaker famously kept a section on his fanfiction.net profile entitled "Things I Hate to Read in Harry Potter Fan Fiction", that included such things as an explanation why hate for the Weasley family was idiotic and why the Draco in Leather Pants trope was a bad thing. A few months after he added that section, he added a section entitled "Fun With Morons", in which he publicly responded to the hate mail he received because of the "Things I Hate to Read" list. His response to one young woman, who had said in her hate mail, "Now I understand why your wife left you", was particularly epic:
"I have the right to criticize other people's things and beliefs because I have a right to criticize other people's things and beliefs. Just as other people, including the hypocritical moron who calls herself "Lady Lily Malfoy", have the right to criticize my things and beliefs. That's the great thing about Freedom of Expression: it cuts both ways. As I say elsewhere in this screed, your right to hold a silly-ass opinion in no way prevents the opinion from being silly. Nor does it protect you from having someone else come up and point out how silly-assed your opinion is. So... to everyone who thinks... or rather doesn't think... just like this LLM person, kiss my wide white ass."
"And for the record, my wife didn't leave me. She died after a prolonged and extremely painful fight against cancer. But hey, thanks for taking an interest, you insensitive bitch."
- A variant of this happened with the Kraith stories based on Star Trek: The Original Series. Jacqueline Lichtenberg intended for readers to join in and contribute, and provided guidelines for it. Things stayed pretty much on track until Lichtenberg brought in Sondra Marshak as a Kraith Creator. Marshak's kinks soon came to dominate the project, and Lichtenberg, in awe of Marshak's "incredible mind", abandoned most of the plot plans for the second half of Kraith. It was never completed.
- Brian Lee O'Malley, creator of Scott Pilgrim, was constantly harassed on DeviantArt by people who criticized his art style and movie deal causing him to close his account after only a few months.
- Following the successful hacking of AACS (the content protection system for Blu-ray) in 2007, Fox and MGM lay dormant with Blu-ray for several months after releasing Night at the Museum, skipping some titles completely and going straight to Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer and The Day After Tomorrow when they resumed Blu-ray releases. Most of the skipped titles have yet to see a high definition release (though Pathfinder was quickly released in an unrated version more than a month after the hiatus ended). And all because some hackers managed to crack the AACS code.
- George Lucas has supposedly said that the end of the Star Wars franchise was due to his highly vitriolic fanbase. He later sold both Star Wars and Indiana Jones to Disney, an easy way to keep both of them going on without anyone blaming him for whatever problems they might have.
- Jake Lloyd was bullied throughout middle school and high school for his portrayal of Anakin Skywalker in The Phantom Menace, which, at least according to an apocryphal account, drove him to burn all of his Star Wars memorabilia and vow to never watch a single Star Wars film again. Most versions of the story even single it out as the reason why he hasn't appeared on the big screen (except for a 3D re-release of the same film) for a very long time since.
- Rotten Tomatoes shut down user comments for The Dark Knight Rises after critics gave negative reviews and people responded by posting death threats. RT would later completely remove the option to comment on reviews altogether.
- Due to a violation of an embargo on reviews of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo being published that was in effect before an established date, David Fincher has stated that none of his future films will be screened for critics.
- The third movie in The Gamers series, which focuses on geek culture, has a group trying to do this on purpose. The plot focuses on a CCG where each faction has varying mechanics and win conditions and the tournament champions get to decide the outcomes of each season's story events. The villains are exploiting an overpowered and story-breaking deck build to dominate the competitive game and drive out everybody who enjoys it for more than pure mechanics.
- For a very long time, Tim Curry was uncomfortable talking about The Rocky Horror Picture Show due to some fans creeping him out, even claiming he intentionally gained weight as a way of distancing himself from the film. In later years, however, he became more open about talking about being in Rocky Horror and somewhat embraces the impact it has on teenagers, calling it a "rite of passage".
- Zelda Williams, daughter of the late Robin Williams, was driven off social media after trolls descended onto her Facebook and Twitter accounts and attacked her over her father's death. Specifically, they posted a picture originating from Liveleak of a suicide-by-hanging victim that resembled Robin.
- After the success of Thor (and even moreso with The Avengers), Tom Hiddleston used to have a very good relationship with his fans. He would personally update his Twitter multiple times daily with songs that he liked, poetry, interesting/funny things from fans, and so on; not to mention the fact he'd spend quite a bit of time with them when in person, taking time out to sign every autograph and take every picture requested of him. However, one too many transgressions from "fans" such as: Camping en masse outside his hotel when shooting on location, constantly linking him to Rule 34 fanart of himself, tricking him into meeting with them by posing as someone he worked with (similar to the Mark Waid example above), posting his home address online, and immediately flooding any woman that has the audacity to simply be photographed with him (whether in a romantic context or not) with death threats caused Hiddleston to suddenly become notably distant. His Twitter is now updated perhaps once every other month (if that) with very generic things, and it's been a while since anybody's managed to get a picture with him.
- This "stepping back" blog entry (spoilers for Torchwood: Children of Earth).
- iCarly: Before Season 3 had started airing, Dan posted a script fragment from a future episode◊. He took it down quickly, but it was reposted on various sites. Naturally, shippers from both sides went nuts, especially on LiveJournal. After heavy criticism about Dan ruining the fandom and the LJ communities with his interaction he quit and deleted his LiveJournal, without warning or notice (meaning the fandom lost a lot of interesting interaction with him), and eventually set up his own blog site, which he claimed was for better control, but his first post was about being pissed off with responses to his script.
- One speculated reason for why Legend of the Seeker wasn't renewed for a third season was that fans of the Sword of Truth books were so vocal about the changes that were made that the networks were afraid to advertise the show.
- Whiny fans who never stop complaining about "imperfections" is why Steve Roberts of the Doctor Who restoration team stopped writing articles about the Doctor Who DVD restorations.
- Back in the late '90s, before Lexx developed a fan base that was rabid when it came to Michael McManus, who portrayed Kai on the show, he was known to dote on the fans, even the squeeing fangirls. There is an especially cute story of him leaving an autograph session, announcing that he wanted a beer and inviting a nearby group of fans to join him. After a few years of non-stop stalking and harassment at the hands of fangirls with no respect for boundaries, McManus eventually stopped interacting with fans all together, becoming almost reclusive.
- Joseph Mallozzi, a writer and producer of the Stargate series in general, has had a blog on and off over the last decade. Each time he comes back, the blog is more and more regulated toward the fan hate and complaints that had eventually flooded his last blog.
- TV mega forum Television Without Pity: Aaron Sorkin's experiences on the site during The West Wing's heyday led him to roundly mock it on an episode. Rob Thomas, the creator of Veronica Mars, also avoided the show's fandom after run-ins on TWOP.
- Dave Chappelle became disillusioned with Chappelle's Show both because he felt that it had turned into a minstrel show and because he had begun to realize that some of his fans were idiotic whites who took the humor at face value and thought that hearing a black dude saying "nigger" repeatedly was hilarious; in addition to that, he was also getting extremely tired of people shouting "I'M RICK JAMES, BITCH!" at live standup appearances to the point where he was drowned outnote , something that eventually resulted in him blowing up at the audience and telling them that he gave them too much credit and that they really were every bit as stupid as the network execs said they were (in another appearance when someone did the same thing, he claimed that he wished he had never done that particular sketch).
- According to Dave, he also walked off because the schedule was becoming far too demanding for him (he basically had to work 20 hours a day) and it soon got to a point where he no longer enjoyed working on the show. Also a newspaper reported that Dave accepted Comedy Central's 35 million dollar contract, which angered Dave as that was something he wanted to be kept under wraps.
- Bradley James of Merlin temporarily abandoned his Twitter account after certain portions of the Fandom began to leave unpleasant comments about his girlfriend Georgia King and co-star Angel Coulby. Strangely enough, he didn't find his "fans" hassling two women he cares about particularly endearing, and despite an attempt to calm things down◊, Georgia shut down her Twitter account and Bradley cut down considerably on the use of his own.
- CBS limits Audience Participation on the American version of Big Brother after the earlier attempts at Audience Participation wound up with the Boring but Practical players left and people from the players' hometown repeatedly calling in to save their person. In 11, they held an audience vote to decide who would receive the power of coup d'état, which would be a Game Breaker to whoever got it. During this vote, texting would cost $1 a text but you could vote on the site for free. Ronnie's wife botted the site in Ronnie's favour and then posted instructions on how to bot the site for Ronnie's sake. People took this and made counterbots to the site so that Jeff or Jordan would win the power. CBS then made it so that you could only vote a maximum of five times, and then, on consecutive votes, randomize the houseguests positions on the map so you couldn't just mindlessly click on the same spot and then vote a hundred plus times.
- And for America's vote, they put in efforts to limit bots. You had to have an account and could only vote ten times total. This didn't stop a bunch of people from making Sock Puppet accounts and voting in Brendon to compete against Lawon in a totally balanced and fair competition to return to the house, though.
- The Price Is Right. Drew Carey opened his own personal blog on the show's website and within days (not weeks as was expected), ruthless fans (most of them from Golden Road.net, a hugely popular fan site to which many staffers of the show have contributed) began attacking him. One took his commentary too far and pushed Carey into disabling comments temporarily. Since July 3, 2008, a lot of users over at that website had been hurling all sorts of invective at Carey and Fremantle Media over the firing of Roger Dobkowitz and various other things. When Carey disabled comments, he made a blog entry announcing that he had disabled them, and in this blog entry he stuck it to the fans by calling them "telephone pole screamers".
- Though contestant Terry Kneiss was awarded his prizes anyway, suspicions about him cheating his way into a perfect Showcase bid on a 2008 broadcast (which may bring back memories of Michael Larson's two-episode reign of terror on Press Your Luck) led to certain products not appearing in future episodes.
- Miley Cyrus deleted her first Twitter account, not only as she reportedly lost her privacy and was addicted to Twitter, but due to death threats she received for posting pro-homosexual rights statements on her account. At the time, her account had over 1,300,000 followers. She's returned, of course, but posts less frequently and more discreetly, and certainly sticks up for herself more tersely. (She also asks her fans not to flame those who criticize her.)
- Alton Brown of Good Eats had this problem, no less than twice. First when he decided to open up an Email portal on his website and was promptly rushed with all sorts of unsavory things. The portal was closed down. Years later, he finally relented and opened up a Twitter account with similar results. He seems to have returned to Twitter, however.
- Before and during the run of Babylon 5, J. Michael Straczynski was very active on Usenet, Compuserve & GEnie forums dedicated to the show, with well over 10,000 posts from 1992 through 1998. Constant harassment by a few fans led him into several ill-advised flamewars. Claudia Christian's departure from the show led to middle-of-the-night phone calls and death threats. He's never been as active online since, though he does have a Facebook fan page now.
- DirecTV and Viacom wound up having a heated debate over some fee thing, and Viacom attempted to rally its viewers to support them and call DirecTV. However, there was a generally lackluster response since most Viacom shows can be watched online (Legally, even!note ). As a result, Viacom started removing official episodes from the internet, even though this would do nothing but LOSE money and piss off fans who don't even use DirecTV.
- Game of Thrones writer Bryan Cogman left Twitter after one too many insulting tweets by angry fans.
- When Jenna-Louise Coleman first got the part of Clara on Doctor Who, one of the very first pieces of advice she was given was "Stay off the internet."
- When spoilers for the entire second season of Bomb Girls leaked and were spread around (against the production company's wishes, mind you), fandom reacted extremely negatively, mostly Shippers whose only concern was Betty/Kate becoming canon. Soon after the series was moved from a Wednesday to Monday time slot and there was a long mid-season hiatus, leading to a drop in viewership. Then Global TV announced there would be no third season with only the possibility of a TV movie in winter of 2014 to wrap up all the Cliffhangers. Cue more negative reactions. And then after the movie aired there was even more outrage over Betty/Kate being torpedoed as a ship.
- When Ioan Gruffudd first got famous with Horatio Hornblower in the late Nineties and early Naughties, he really seemed to be enjoying interaction with fans on-line. He was even paying a considerable sum of money to run a web-page where fans could send him greetings and kudos and he would often reply. Fans were also collecting and preserving rare stuff like videos from his child actor days or various interviews. When he got engaged, supposedly many a fan-girl could not deal, forgetting that Celebrity Crush is supposed to be for fun. They started sending hateful messages directed at his lfiancée. No wonder Mr Gruffudd refused to pay for that.
- Masi Oka used to play World of Warcraft, but eventually stopped once several Heroes fans figured out his name and wouldn't leave him alone (he's also hinted that the game is somewhat addictive for him and that with his schedule, it's just not possible to play the way he wants to - i.e. scheduling raids with friends and guildmembers). He also describes himself as being good at avoiding the Internet, but was amused when he found out a fan wanted to keep Hiro as her "pet". He also has a Twitter account, but tends to treat it more as a broadcast than a dialogue, only answering questions during specific "Ask Masi" events.
- Trent Reznor declared he would stop most of his Twitter usage due to various unpleasant posted comments regarding his wife and how their collaborative new project was getting in the way of new Nine Inch Nails' projects. He still posts plenty of updates, but most of them tend to be news-related rather than personal now.
- Yoshiki of X Japan was pretty much chased off the internet for much of 2009 and half of 2010 in a massive flare of GIFT, Internet Counterattack, and Internet Backdraft that originally started when he canceled a planned concert in Paris. He came back to the Internet in 2010 on Facebook and Twitter, and is currently back but is still occasionally bothered by trolls.
- In a related phenomenon, The Beatles stopped touring in 1966. The complexity of some post-Revolver tracks exceeding what could be performed live was part of it, but another factor was that their fans went so crazy whenever they showed up that they couldn't hear themselves play over the sound of the hysterical shrieking, were trapped in their hotel rooms by mobbing fans whenever they went anywhere and had to be ferried around in armored cars to prevent being torn apart in the near-rioting that surrounded them.
- There was also another factor. The crazy anti-Beatles hatedom that emerged after John Lennon's "we're Bigger Than Jesus" comments, complete with record burnings, boycotts and picketing of Beatles concerts, convinced the band that touring the US wasn't worth it, as they'd just have the Moral Guardians dogging them at nearly every leg of the tour.
- The last straw was probably an incident at the August 19 concert in Memphis where an audience member threw a firecracker on stage. No one was harmed, but for a split second everyone thought the loud noise was a gunshot. They gave just five more concerts after that.
- Disturbed, for a time, used to answer fan questions on message boards, spending the most of their time being badgered to prove who they are. The sad thing is, this was started by David Draiman with the other band members saying it wasn't worth trying till they eventually warmed up to the idea at David's urging. With the relationship soured, they'll probably never do this again.
- As of 2011, David is tweeting and still getting stupid/rude questions. One of the more common ones is "Will Dan/Mike/John get a Twitter?". His response is "They've expressed a strong interest... not to."
- This is, quite likely, the reason why most music-formatted radio stations no longer freely play song requests. Of course, this doesn't stop the frequent complaints of "you never play this song" coming from the listeners — but it is now easier for the radio programmers and disc jockeys to ignore them, and just program what they want to play.
- That is, on the stations where programmers still have that kind of control. Much contemporary radio runs on station branding (e.g., "Jack FM") — a prepackaged format that is often automated and voice-tracked to sound local, yet another example of this trope.
- John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats now destroys all his outtakes, the result of an (especially embarrassing) unreleased album being leaked.
- He also destroyed an entire planned EP due to repeated requests for illegal mp3s on his own forum.
- Randy Blythe of Lamb Of God explains why he had to deactivate his Twitter account. It came down heavily in part to this trope.
- In the late '90s, while Nas was working on his album I Am...The Autobiography, a bunch of tracks were leaked to the internet. In response, he rewrote a great deal of the album in just a month. The fanbase generally believes that the finished album suffered for it.
- In April 2013, a disgruntled Protest The Hero fan posted an angry rant about how he waited in line at their bus after a show for an autograph, only to have his paper returned before being told to go away. It seemed like typical out-of-touch rockstar behavior... that is, until they posted the part of the story that he neglected to tell. Essentially, the dude was a known autograph hunter whose modus operandi involved going up to bands, acting like he was a fan who just wanted a keepsake, getting autographs, and then turning around and selling them on eBay to reap huge profits. That, and they had been burned by him before and were not about to fall for his bullshit again. They also clarified that they had no problem giving autographs to people who genuinely just wanted keepsakes, but that they were not okay with autograph hunters and that if they got burned enough, they would consider just not giving them altogether.
- Ringo Starr publicly refuses to sign autographs anymore because a lot of people have sold his autographs on eBay for huge prices (several others have the same policy, but Ringo is the only one who has made a video about it). Roger Waters has also publicly lashed out at these "autograph collectors," though he still signs from time to time.
- Zayn Malik, member of UK band One Direction, temporarily deactivated his Twitter account due to the hateful comments he received, in extreme cases being called a "terrorist".
- It ain't just the English-speaking world that pulls this kind of stunt: In Chile, after an unexpectedly large Los Jaivas concert wrecked the Parque Forestal park it was hosted in, complete with 70 tons of garbage needing to be collected the next day, garbage cans set on fire, and an art theft in a nearby museum, it's safe to say there won't be anything else hosted there in quite a while.
- In a related example to The Beatles example above, The Tigers had all videotapes of a 1968 concert for NHK destroyed after fangirls went wild and caused several injuries and damage to the arena.
- Godspeed You! Black Emperor's demo tape All Lights Fucked on the Hairy Amp Drooling is perhaps the holy grail of indie fans. It is an Old Shame, so it will never be reissued, and it was limited to 33 copies so the chances of a copy surfacing are naturally highly unlikely. And yet, in 2013, one did surface. The person who had it surfaced on Reddit and was ready to rip it and distribute it. Two songs song were posted and confirmed to be genuine. And then people drove him off by being assholes, to the point where he deleted his account. The remaining songs have yet to surface.
- Steam Powered Giraffe started reaching this point with their fans, growing more and more detached from them both in person and online. For a charming group of robot mimes who just wanted to entertain, and now get flak over anything from a gender change for a trans woman's comfort to a moustache intended as a joke, it's more than a little sad for longtime fans. Nothing like hearing a once-loving and optimistic band be entirely unsurprised at hearing about their fans sexually abusing each other. To quote Bunny, "I lost faith long before you told me that."
- Mike Portnoy, from Dream Theater, wrote the song Never Enough from the 2004 album Octavarium in response to the more rabid parts of the fanbase who kept criticizing and complaining and asking for more and more without realizing that the band's members are humans with lives. Other than that, even though the albums tend to divide the fan base, this hasn't had any real ill effects on their relationship with the fans, though one could assume the "demanding and never happy" type of fan isn't liked much by them.
- Trevor Strnad posted a rant on Facebook around the release of Everblack that decried the illegal downloading of their albums, stating that the fans weren't sticking it to the man by downloading their music but were instead hurting them, as they were in that spot where they were big enough to live off of their music without having to consider day jobs but were nowhere near big enough to be anything even resembling rich and that they needed physical sales to prove that they were still relevant and retain strong label sales; if album sales fell below expectations, the likelihood that the label would start to consider them "old news" would rise significantly and could jeopardize their chances of continuing to receive support from the label. The responses were predictable; plenty of people (many of them musicians) agreed with both the statement and the sentiment behind it, while others took it upon themselves to shower them with abuse and accuse them of being whiny, entitled rockstars who saw the fans as piggy banks and were just getting mad that they weren't yielding enough.
- The San Francisco Renegades were suspended by Drum Corps Associates for the 2013 season after reports of loud and disruptive partying in the corps' hotel rooms during the 2012 Championship weekend. They returned to DCA in 2014 as a minicorps.
- Area 11, while still fairly involved with their fandoms, used to be even more involved through the official Facebook fangroup, being members of it (for admin purposes) and joining in with the general fun, posting memes and so on. This changed when a fan somehow worked out the email address of Sparkles*, spammed him and then did something which resulted in the hashtag "Kill Colin" being spread note . The band are no longer members of the group, but do still lurk there, so it's not as total a loss as it could have been.
- Bill Watterson of Calvin and Hobbes would occasionally sneak signed copies of comic collections into his local bookshop. He stopped when they started showing up on eBay.
- Rumor has it that one of the reasons Watterson stopped doing Calvin and Hobbes was because his "fans" effectively stole the trademark for Calvin away from him. You know all of those cutesy "Calvin is praying" or "Calvin is Peeing on Something" stickers you see on the back windows of all those trucks and cars? Yeah... they weren't authorized by Watterson (who licensed a very small amount of merchandise, and nothing like those stickers). By the time the cartoonist found out about them and moved to stop their production, they'd become so ubiquitous and widespread that a judge told him he'd effectively lost his own trademark because he didn't act fast enough.
- The Other Wiki states that people selling such things were forced to change the caricature to avoid infringement. Not that it would have changed his anti-consumerism stance on Calvin and Hobbes goods and general strong intent to have the "brand" fade away as much as possible.
- Athletes will occasionally take potshots at their fanbase or former fanbase once they leave. Willis McGahee infamously antagonized the city of Buffalo by claiming the team should move to Toronto because Buffalo was boring and poor, and that the women were ugly.
- By the same token, some athletes refuse to sign autographs since a lot of memorabilia dealers use children to solicit them from athletes and then run home and put the item on eBay.
- Likewise, some athletes refuse to talk with fans after certain fans trash stadiums or engage in hooliganism.
- Sports statistics web pages sometimes have these. One semi-popular page has had its sole webmaster consider shutting it down because of some fans who regularly harass him when he doesn't update on time, especially due to real life issues. One time, his wife (and even his son!) felt like responding to some of these emails saying "Sorry we've not updated - the funeral's on Friday if you want to pay your respects."
- Wilfried Zaha, Crystal Palace ace, has taken to snapping at people on Twitter (and plans to leave the site altogether) after losing his temper with a group of abusive, unpleasable fans.
- Fireman Ed, the New York Jets' unofficial mascot, was the team's most famous fan for 32 years but retired his persona in 2012 claiming that he had gotten fed up with the increasingly aggressive and negative behavior from his fellow Jets fans.
- Cited as one of the reasons why Formula One killed off the United States Grand Prix at Watkins Glen International after 1980. The "fans" who attended in the later years tended to be rowdy and drunken, with a particular enthusiasm for setting things ablaze in the infield section known as "The Bog", located inside the track section called "The Boot" (turns 6-9).note This activity basically made it untenable for Watkins Glen and F1 to fix the primary problem with the track, which was the safety issues that killed several drivers in the late '70's.
- When the Dungeons & Dragons 4th edition Player's Handbook 2 was released, a digital copy was bought and distributed literally within minutes. This was the last straw for Wizards of the Coast, who responded by discontinuing any and all .pdf format sales of their books. They also sued eight people involved in the distribution.
- Ironically, every single D&D book release is still scanned and pirated. There's just a small delay now. The company does not share their sales figures, so it's impossible to say whether or not this move has done WOTC any good.
- Games Workshop has reduced its interaction with fans online for years, culminating in the closure of several Facebook pages such as the one of the much-acclaimed "'eavy Metal" team. This was after GW closed their own forum which happened after said forum became loaded to the hilt with inane complaints and death threats. The fallout from the incident is still in the heads of the company's workers and will be for a while. On the other hand, this has hurt them in their sales ever since which means the the entire hobby they offer may disappear at some point sooner rather than later.
- Minor example but it still counts: BIONICLE's Big Bad had No Name Given, instead known by his title of "Makuta". When an entire group of Makuta were introduced, head of story (and fandom's resident Word of God) Greg Farshtey went ahead and revealed that his name is "Teridax". The fans weren't exactly thrilled with this name, and said so in no uncertain terms. As a result, Farshtey canceled plans to reveal the name of the other big No Name Given character, the Shadowed One, rather than deal with backlash again.
- A less minor example, similar to the Transformers one below: Bionicle set designers did intend at times to join BZ Power's forums (where Farshtey himself posts), but decided against it, not wanting to expose themselves to the immense fan hate whenever a new line of sets is revealed. But this is more of a "Why certain fansites can't have nice things", because set/piece designers do visit other boards where they don't have to worry about being attacked.
- Transformers designer Aaron Archer used to be a regular poster on a message board, with his own section where he would answer questions. Then someone had to go moan at Hasbro, allegedly because Archer was unprofessional and rude, almost certainly actually because the complainer was jealous that another board had such a major draw. Hasbro promptly declared that it was over.
- Bob Skir of Beast Machines also had a closer relationship with the fans than most official entities, but the on-line community was so harsh towards the series he co-wrote, that he decided to break up. He didn't attend the fan conference he and his partner Marty Isenberg were invited to either (nor did Marty). Thus, they are both still among them.
- A lot of developers have cited high piracy rates as a reason for including draconian DRM, flat-out not porting their games to PC at all, or refusing to export their games to other regions.
- Demigod had faith in its fans and released the game sans Copy Protection. The result? An estimated 93% piracy rate that choked the servers to death and caused review scores to plummet thanks to untold amounts of lag and connection issues. For that matter; a lot of Copy Protection and DRM in general, as you can see from several other examples on this page. It used to not be as intrusive as it was; yet because of people who decided to pirate the game anyways, and then the "heroes" sticking it to the man who pirated it out of spite pirated it anyways to "justify" their piracy, thus further "justifying" DRM. So thanks a lot, guys, nice to let developers know they can trust us.
- Crysis, due to its high system requirements, was widely pirated, often just to use as a benchmark. When the sequel was announced to be not only on the PC, but the Xbox 360 and PS3 as well (in part because pirating is a lot harder on consoles), the series' PC fans cried bloody murder, worried that the lower capabilities of consoles would result in a lower-quality PC version - which for a time turned out to be correct, until CryTek released a DirectX 11 patch that added a lot of nice features that consoles couldn't do.
- CliffyB of Epic Games announced that the sequels to the original Gears of War would not be released on PC, as the PC version of the first game had been so thoroughly pirated. He also hates the nickname CliffyB now since people used it so often as a form of insult, when he was the one who first said "call me Cliffy B"
- City of Heroes developers have been known to take sabbaticals from the forums due to particularly intense fans. The original powers designer was permanently driven from the forums due to extremely rabid fans.
- This is often cited, though not by name, in the official World of Warcraft forums, as reasons why Blizzard refuses to reveal specific details of upcoming plans for the game, up to and especially including release dates for new content. It's an open and possibly unanswerable question whether fans of the game are driven crazier by lack of information or by being given information.
- Moderator burnout is apparently a very real problem due to the game's vast virtrolic fanbase. There have been highly publicized outbursts by certain controversial mods in response to particularly egregious instances of ridiculous fans that reportedly got them taken off the staff. Many serious players refuse to read the official forums entirely, preferring to read the official Blizzard posts through third-party aggregators. Case in point, with a jar of ashes.
- Blizzard developer and forum "bad cop" Greg "Ghostcrawler" Street dealt with the community almost exclusively through blogs (up until he left Blizzard), partly for this reason.
- In a less drastic example, the forum mods often deliberately avoid posting in threads where they feel a worthwhile discussion is occurring because the mere presence of a moderator post tends to derail such conversations into players exclusively responding to the moderator instead of continuing the discussion with each other, at best.
- In the game itself, originally the Forsaken could speak common (the same language as Alliance races) but this was removed because they used it for verbal griefing, causing them to switch to a new language with no justifying lore.
- The Dance Studio was never made because the very first thing beta testers did with it was make the characters look like they were having sex.
- Mike Pollock, the current voice of Dr. Eggman, once used his Eggman voice in a fan interview to say "Snooping as usual, I see" and "I hate that hedgehog!" by request. Once he figured out the significance of the former, he declared he would not do vocal requests again. Also, Stephen Frost had made an effort to stay close to the fanbase throughout the creation of Sonic Boom, but when the vitriol got too thick (up to and including death threats and wishes for the brand and/or company to go under), he stated his intent to back away from the Sega forums for the time being.
- Nintendo has had multiple instances of punishing unruly fans:
- On October 31st 2013, Nintendo disabled the online features of the 3DS's Swapnote app (including ceasing official communications done through that service) because they found out several users — including minors — were using it to exchange offensive material. Also, at least one pedophile had used it to track down children in Japan — meaning that shutting down the Spotpass Swap Note was actually the least they could do, given what kinds of backlash they could receive.
- Just one day after release on July 17th, 2014, Comic Workshop had its Miiverse features restricted in that people could no longer attach screenshots from the application when it was found people were taking personal pictures within the app and sharing them on Miiverse. Sharing on Miiverse wasn't meant to be allowed in the first place - the game's website indicated that it wasn't possible during the period in which it was, indicating that it was only allowed by mistake. Still, the immediate abuse probably hastened Nintendo and the creators in removing the unintended capability.
- Mario & Luigi: Dream Team had the screenshot ability for its Miiverse community disabled after a bug in the original version of the game was exploited to let people post any saved image from the Nintendo 3DS Camera or the Internet Browser to the Mario & Luigi: Dream Team community. The screenshot ability for the Miiverse community was disabled on September 15, 2014.
- Mario Kart DS had decals players could show off on their kart and could be drawn to be anything they desired. Naturally, everyone made crudely drawn breasts and penises. Nintendo removed the custom decal feature in all Mario Kart games after that and has the karts use the character decals instead.
- Masahiro Sakurai, director of the Super Smash Bros. series, has stated he will be tweeting less. His reasoning is that whenever he talks about a video game he enjoys, the overspeculative fans take it as a cue for the game's representative being in the next Super Smash Bros.. Also, because of people uploading the Subspace Emissary cutscenes from Super Smash Bros. Brawl onto the Internet, there will be no story cutscenes in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS.
- Players of Pokémon X and Y found a way to ensure an egg hatched shiny. If the egg and the game copy have the same shiny value, or SV, you'll hatch a shiny. Computer software was made to view egg contents for this reason. Some did complain that it devalued shinies, but it was rather harmless. However, the cheaters found a way to use the same exploit to create software to view their opponents' teams, moves, abilities, etc. in battle. Game Freak and Nintendo did not take kindly to this and patched the whole exploit, killing both softwares.
- Part of the reason that Half-Life 2 got delayed for so long (aside from Valve Software's usual punctuality) was that after it was debuted in several trailers, some bright light decided to steal the source code.
- Valve has had much better dealings in face to face encounters; when Gabe Newell encountered a couple of protestors sitting in front of the Valve offices bearing plaintive placards asking where the hell Half-Life 2: Episode 3 (or just Half-Life 3) was, he just explained he couldn't tell them and it was cool, though someone else did have the cops escort the folks off on loitering charges.
- Valve was beta-testing Dota 2, and used to send people more than one invite so they can give it to their friends. However, after these invites started popping up for sale on eBay, Valve stopped giving more than one invite.note
- Valve used to be pretty prompt with replying to people on the Steam forums for Left 4 Dead 2, but after some fans kept flaming Valve for everything that went wrong or how Valve never fulfilled its promises, it's no surprise that Valve doesn't bother to reply to people on the forums anymore unless it is something important.
- Almost happened with Overkill Software, makers of PAYDAY: The Heist. After the player base discovered how to unlock the secret in extreme and borderline ridiculous requirements, a good chunk of the players trashed Overkill for not making the secret easier to access and claimed Overkill made the clues to the secret too obscure. Overkill had second thoughts of doing more secret hunts and also had second thoughts with interacting with the community after the fallout, but both parties eventually cooled down and things returned to normal.
- PAYDAY 2 during its playable beta phase had people cheating (infinite supplies for example), so Overkill had to update the beta to patch out the exploit and reset everyone's progress in the process. A developer made a statement saying that due to having only four programmers on their team, the rampant cheating going around, and people demanding for something to be done about cheating, Overkill decided to dedicate their resources to stepping up security instead of creating free DLC and also decided to clamp down on people making hysteric topics regarding cheating. Cue the people crying censorship.
- As of mid-February 2013, the "/me" chat command, which colored a user's text for action messages, is no longer available to anyone, because there were a few users who believed that the colored text meant the person talking to them was clearly a Valve employee and promptly got their accounts stolen.
- There's also the Tux incident with Team Fortress 2. Originally, Tux, a cosmetic item exclusive to Linux users who played the game within a certain timeframe, was stated as being tradeable after a certain amount of time after its distribution, similar to the Earbuds from the Mac release of the game. However, the greedier portions of the fanbase saw this as another rare item, and devised ways of obtaining Tuxes illegitimately, such as using a Linux virtual box and creating multiple accounts for the sole purpose of having another Tux. Thus, Tuxes are (as of April 12, 2014) still untradeable to everyone, including those who obtained the items legitimately.
- Sadly, we won't get an English translation to SaGa 3 or a Summon Night game. Crimson Nocturnal shut down due to people complaining about slow updates and requests. Some sources claim that the real reason CN disbanded is because of their leader's large ego combined with internal drama over translation styles, and this isn't the first time he has broken up the group (which almost caused the death of the SaGa 2 translation.)
- Jagex stopped holding holiday events in Runescape for years because people constantly complained about not getting what they expected.
- They also tend to no longer state release dates because of the same reasons other companies do, miss one day and the forums flood with complaints.
- They also bound event items to one's account after the party hat accidents.
- League of Legends doesn't often hold IP boosts to get a special skin and only really holds skin & champion sales because their already bitchy fanbase kept whining about it.
- Also, it's not entirely uncommon for the devs to be driven from the forums due to rabid fans. For example.
- Many gaming channels on YouTube won't do Minecraft videos because of the monomania demonstrated by Minecraft fans, who keep downvoting non-Minecraft videos while endlessly shouting that they want Minecraft videos.
- Devil May Cry creator Hideki Kamiya averts this. Despite the large amount of people who annoy him on Twitter, he still uses it to interact with his fans. He has even visited his fans on 4chan. He's even gone on to state that he enjoys blocking people he considers "idiots". Although he often blocks and complains about people who do the following:
- He will not answer Twitter questions regarding games in that series past the first title, due to Capcom's burning bridges with him and most of staff of Clover Studios, as well as the fact that DMC questions would oversaturate his Twitter feed. He will either respond with a terse "whatever," pretending he doesn't know what the asker is talking about, or (in the case of persistent questioners) will curse the asker out and block them (often with a scathing comment in Japanese). Late in 2012, it was rationalized that he would intentionally dodge some questions because he had inked a deal with Nintendo behind the scenes to create a sequel to Bayonetta for the Wii U and didn't want many details leaking out, although the deluge of fan rage concerning that title has devolved into Kamiya harboring a loathing of foreign Twitterers. He once wanted to create a Star Fox sequel for the Wii U as well, but he changed his mind after being pestered about it by the fans. He is also annoyed when people don't read his twitter archives to see if their question has been asked before and often replies to repeated questions to links to the last time the question was asked.
- Battlefront, makers of beloved wargame Combat Missions, simply want no more to do with WW2 as it gets so many armchair commanders dropping into the site to tell people whom actually served (either then, or any war since then) how terrible their tactics are despite how problematic logistics were or any number of other factors (a mild subversion as this has nothing to do with fan vs creator but the disrespect amongst the fans to each other). They had been planning to drop it for their other lines for some time and make more modern wargames, but the flame wars were the final catalyst.
- For that matter, the exploitation of a Good Bad Bug in a multiplayer game could be considered this because people would report it, causing it to get fixed in an Obvious Rule Patch the following week. Sometimes even hours or days. However, for every person who stormed on the boards complaining about an exploit being fixed, there were about one or two others thanking people for fixing it.
- People who stream their multiplayer games live have been known to stop doing so because someone they were playing against came into their stream and used it to spy on them. This is especially prevalent in games like StarCraft II, Defense Of The Ancients, and League of Legends. Similarly, people who do a Let's Play of a game or stream games live can get harassed by trolls and certain fans alike until they disable comments entirely or worse, not do their Let's Play ever again. This can get upsetting for the rest of the fan base who legitimately like the content.
- After the "Hot Coffee" scandal with Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas note , the "Second Edition" rerelease removed mod support entirely. Of course, gamers already found a way around version 2.0, so when that happened, Rockstar released a 3.0, making it even harder to mod.
- Video game magazines who release trial CDs of games or special promotional codes often have to either give people codes or release it in a plastic-bag because people would go into the store and take the CDs or codes out of the magazines so they get it all for free, when these perks were to reward people buying the magazine.
- The Call of Duty: Black Ops series has the same problem as Mario Kart DS - it allows players to create custom decals attached to their player card and emblazoned on their weapons in-game. So, again naturally, everybody uses it to make swastikas made out of penises.
- Dynasty Warriors Online used to have an arena mode, which was basically a smaller, faster confront mode. The only thing it was used for was gem farming, so item drops were reduced. This still didn't fix the problem, so the staff decided the only way to fix the problem was to remove the Arena all together.
- Has occurred several times with BioWare:
- In 2012, a number of fans took to harassing BioWare writer Jennifer Hepler, screaming that she was "the cancer that was killing BioWare" and blaming her for the homosexual content in Dragon Age II. This was based in part on an interview she'd given six years before where she expressed a desire for an option to skip combat in favor of story. A flame war eventually broke out on Twitter and Hepler ended up deleting her account after someone sent death threats directed at her children. She denies that her leaving BioWare in 2013 was the direct result of this harassment, despite some initial reports stating so, but it's not hard to imagine it had something to do with it.
- They have now taken a very careful approach to releasing information about Dragon Age: Inquisition, similar to the tactic used by World of Warcraft, and you can't help but wonder if these incidents played into it.
- CBJ, one of the devs of X Rebirth, calls fans out on the endless whining about there being very little news from Egosoft about X Rebirth for about a year and a half. When they were posting a screenshot a week, people started demanding more info and videos, at which point ES basically said "screw this."
- Phil Fish, creator of Fez ended up supposedly cancelling Fez 2 as well as ports of Fez to other platforms and proclaimed he was getting out of the video game business after getting into a beef with Marcus Beer (a.k.a. The Annoyed Gamer) and going on a angry Twitter tirade. He then publicly defended developer Zoe Quinn from Trolling and harassment she was getting from Image Boards, causing one of the trolls to hack his bank account details and post them online. He announced intentions to sell his Polygon IP and quit the industry, announcing "this is videogames".
- Super Meat Boy programmer Tommy Refenes spent half a year after the game was done making a portal for uploading and downloading fan made maps. Several fans found an exploit, told Refenes about it (who told them that he couldn't fix it right then because he was on vacation and so was everyone at Valve), spread information about it on the net and hacked the servers. This, combined with the emotional distress from the Troubled Production of the last few months of the game, caused Refenes to not only lock that feature of the game out as soon as he could, but never look at the Super Meat Boy code again.
- Papers, Please, during its beta stage, allowed people to submit their names to be used for the randomly-generated immigrants. Well, it was supposed to be their names. Many submissions had to be removed because some wise guys tried to abuse it to sneak in names of celebrities, names of characters in other media, or obscene puns. And in one case, this was particularly unfortunate - one of the submitted names was Anita Sarkeesian, the host of Feminist Frequency...and the creator unknowingly used it for a prostitute.
- For Humble Indie Bundles, Steam keys were originally given for any amount donated. However, one bundle was running concurrent to a Steam promotion. Some people abused the system and bought many bundles for a penny each, and used the keys to legitimize accounts to gain an unfair advantage in the promotion. As a result, every bundle onward would require a minimum donation of $1 to get the Steam keys.
- On Halloween 2013, Wadjet Eye Games ran a promotion where people could get a Steam key of Blackwell Deception for free. However, it was horribly abused to gain multiple keys, and despite numerous attempts by the company to try to restrict the offer to one key per person, people worked their way around every one and made off with 30,000 keys. They eventually had to invalidate the keys and stated that another promotion like that was unlikely.
- After one bastard groped and stripped his drunk wife on camera while using 'The Playroom' on PS4, Sony has started blocked total support for the game when it comes to streaming with the built-in Twitch function of the console. Worse, if you try to broadcast via capture card the broadcast will be taken down and the video removed, if not resulting in the player being banned on Play Station Network.
- For over a year on the Star Trek Online forums, there was a highly popular topic called "What's your beef with the Galaxy Cryptic?" in which players complained about the Galaxy-class series of ships for the Federation. When Cryptic revealed a "reboot", fans were ecstatic over it... until they found out that they just modified the class to be able to perform a certain skill while moving and most of the modifications went into the Galaxy-X ship and even that wasn't much. Players were livid and the topic quickly turned sour, especially when Cryptic began performing moves that certain players absolutely hated. When threats against Cryptic, PWE and its workers were made, the topic was locked and deleted, but a new one was put up by mods and told the players under no uncertain terms that if they pulled that bullshit again, discussions like that might be banned along with them.
- A few months later, Community Manager CaptainSmirk began limited-time codes for certain items for the viewers of the livestreams for the upcoming expansion Delta Rising. The first code, dealing with Section 31 costumes, went quite well. The second code the following week, dealing with the highly vaunted Red Matter Capacitor (which was a bonus item for players who bought the special edition game way back in the beginning) spread like wildfire on the Message Boards, the Twitter accounts and on the Reddit r/sto subforms and players were angry when not only was the code very limited in number, but also Bound-To-Character (both of which wasn't broadcasted when they were posted elsewhere). Smirk later said that codes like that would be held a lot more closer next time.
- This is a common issue in the Tales Series. The American fanbase had a bad issue of No Export for You for a while and a lot of fans complained enough about it. When the games did come out though, a good portion of fans actually complained that the localization was "not like the Japanese one". This caused sales to decrease and less games to be localized because from Namco's perspective, why bother when people complain that you release it?
- In Final Fantasy XIV, players can join with several other players in a quest or raid through the use of the duty finder. Players can either start a quest from the start or join another group that's already making progress so that they can continue without dealing with the loss of another member that had previously left. When the party is completely formed, a window pops up to confirm if everyone is ready. However, due to how certain awards/loot/etc are distributed at the end of a quest, many people would fish for in progress duties and quickly withdrew from the duty if it wasn't an in progress one, which meant the rest of the party now had to sit through the queue again as the system looked for another player. For highly populated raids, it was very common to sit in the queue for 10 minutes or more with the system constantly spamming the "A player has withdrawn from the duty finder. Finding new member." message every single time people backed out. A patch tweaked the duty finder by giving a player a 30 minute lockout from the duty finder if they withdraw more than 3 times in a day and the penalty applies again if the player withdraws yet again. While it greatly deters people from trolling others in the duty finder, other players who withdraw for legitimate reasons also suffer if they withdraw too much.
- Call of Duty: Tactical Insertions in online multiplayer. Originally debuting in Modern Warfare 2, they were intended to allow players to choose where they would respawn after their next death. However some of the community used Tac Inserts as a way to boost for easy XP, unlockable equipment and camos, and easy killstreaks. As a result, Tac Inserts were banished to the Infected game mode in both Call of Duty: Ghosts and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, though this has not discouraged boosting.
- Brooke McEldowney had Comics.com turn off the commenting feature for his 9 Chickweed Lane comic after a few Trolls made persistent homophobic and misogynistic remarks while another posted links to 9CL strips with pornographic dialogue substituted for the original.
- This is a major problem for artists in the Furry Fandom; one of the biggest sources of furry drama will invariably be about an artist being driven out due to their art being stolen and reposted elsewhere, usually because they're too lazy to buy the artwork from the artist, themselves. Sometimes, however, they actually have people taking credit for the artwork. Some of the places where the artwork is being reloaded will help the artist out by putting them on a DNP (Do Not Post) list and punishing those who break it...but that's small comfort when most of these cases are followed up by Internet Backdraft over the artist leaving, making a bad situation worse. Other times, artists have to shut down their messages or commissions due to obsessive trolls and drama that breaks out whenever they open commission slots and are immediately filled by people who apparently wait all day for journals like that and then snipe the journal. Or, some people were just remarkably bad customers. Furries have been harassed at conventions and have said they would not be attending future events.
- Tessa Stone, the mind behind Hanna Is Not a Boy's Name, revealed a spoiler on the true nature of Ples Tibenoch to a select few fans, confident that they wouldn't go and spread it around the fandom. Three guesses what happened there.
- This is the reason why there are no more forums for VG Cats.
- Tom Siddell, author of Gunnerkrigg Court, used to occasionally make GC-themed desktop wallpaper for the fans—sometimes a larger version of a panel from the latest page, and sometimes completely new art. When some fans complained that he wasn't also making widescreen versions of these pictures, he decided to stop altogether.
- Tom also used to respond to reader's queries on a "Questions for Tom" thread on the Gunnerkrigg Court forum. He stopped, not so much because people asked the same questions, but rather because other readers would jump in and answer the questions themselves, making it a "Questions for Whoever Feels Like Answering" thread. He took his question-answering to a formspring account. However, when fans began repeatedly asking questions on topics he had stated he wasn't going to answer—and then getting combative over his not answering—Tom deleted his formspring account. Fortunately, some months later Tom decided to give it another shot and reopened his formspring account.
- While he permits it to be written, the author of Tales of the Questor makes it a deliberate policy to never, ever read fanfics of his comics, because he knows he would go mad from the desire to dive in and re-edit...
- Ratfist: When political discussions in the Shout Box started turning into flame wars with every new page, Doug TenNapel disabled comments below the pages. However, this led to the creation of an off-site Ratfist forum.
- It's been rumoured the Flind arc of Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic was designed to introduce furry characters, then brutally murder them at the end of the plotline, as a result of constant questions about the strange lack of furry presence in a D&D comic. Outside of the minotaur and the sphynx there's really nobody else who'd count as furry and it seems like it's going to stay that way.
- Moon Over June is possibly an example of this, with Woc having disabled commenting on her newest strips. This change came quietly, but after a short story arc which was met with much criticism by the readers.
- When RPG World began to lay fallow, the artist was content to leave the site running until it became a haven for an exceptionally rabid collective of trolls. When the trolls retaliated at the author's later input to the site, he took down the archive entirely.
- This was also the reason why the comic never got an ending as Ian was tired of said complaints. Compounded with his being busy with his animation career and dwindling interest to draw the comic, he ultimately abandoned it and never looked back.
- Andrew Hussie has been known for taking potshots at the sides of the Homestuck fandom he doesn't like, as well as deconstructing some types of fans or using different caricatures of internet culture as the base for some of his characters note or making fan-favorite relationships canon only to then break them up almost immediately by pointing out exactly how they wouldn't worknote This reached a climax when Jane engages "trickster mode", a hitherto Easter Egg turned into a power-up like that gives Her, and subsequently the other Alpha cast candy-themed outfits and hyper-sugary personalities note ... As well as Caucasian skin tone. Beforehand, Hussie had explained that the characters were simply "Aracial", so there was no canon race or skin colors for any of them note , which didn't appease the heated arguments between fans either calling each other out (and Hussie himself) as Racist for refusing to accept characters as anything other than white, or people poking fun at them. At this point, when Jane turns Jake into a trickster, she says that she feels "So very... CAUCASIAN!" followed by an exaggerated Big "NO!" from the latter. Cue the fandom going up in flames with people gleefully taking the joke as a Take That towards everyone who had non-white headcanons for the kids and using it as a means to harass those fansnote . So much so, in fact, that Hussie edited and redacted the joke for the first time he's ever done so. Cue the fandom going up in flames over either Hussie being "thin-skinned" or the complaining side of the fandom having annoyed Hussie to the point of submission, finally culminating with a response from Hussie's tumblr explaining the situation. Cue the fandom going up in flames over the response, which prompted yet another post in which Hussie responds to some of the controversy regarding the previous post, calling out the people attacking other members of the fandom. These were some of his reactions.
These are just a few, picked out semi-randomly, ranging from “mild, but missing the point” to “unspeakably terrible”.
[...] if you truly dislike censorship, and do not wish to see more self-censorship in the future, then you would be doing your part to behave in a way that doesn’t make creators feel embarrassed to be defended by you.
- The author of the Yaoi Webcomic House of Dyer apparently received hate mail that was so vile that she not only cancelled the comic but closed the website and removed all artwork related to the comic from her deviantART page and tumblr.
- Ricky Gervais expressly pointed out that they were no longer going to give The Ricky Gervais Show away for a period before charging for it, because they were getting annoyed at fans whining that they had missed out. So they just started charging upfront.
- Super Mario Bros. Z creator Alvin Earthworm was constantly being asked on Newgrounds and on his DeviantArt account (among others) when the next episode of the series was coming out. The show was something he does as a hobby and (to his own admittance) didn't expect it to take off like it did.
- Arfenhouse Teh Movie 3. The creator, Misteroo, released two prank films instead of the promised third film because fans would not stop asking him when it would come out. The second of these was released because none of them got the hint.
- Matt Wilson, the creator of Bonus Stage, ended the series and pretty much dropped off the Internet in part due to the fans, who were by turns screamingly negative or creepily obsessed.
- LittleKuriboh had mentioned his bisexuality on his livejournal, and someone who knew him personally took that information to his parents. LK has since stated that he will be much, much more cautious in posting personal information in the future.
- This is often the motivation for uploaders disabling comments on YouTube, far more so than Orwellian Editor reasons. Case in point, WWE's official Youtube Channel. However, knowing the IWC (Internet Wrestling Community), one would only be able to guess how many comments they would receive about Ring of Honor, TNA, Chris Benoit, or the myriad of other "We Do Not Speak Of Such Things" topics that they would undoubtedly be inundated with. Sometimes, when a group of videos on YouTube gets DMCA'd, fans of the videos will quite unfairly and needlessly harp on the uploader. In at least one case, this has resulted in the uploader personally taking down the rest of his/her videos.
- Retsupurae used to have a comments section on their channel but removed it after their viewers wouldn't stop either bickering amongst themselves or posting links to videos for the guys to riff on, even after it became apparent that Retsupurae ignored said links. After much clamouring in the videos the comments were reinstated only for the same thing to happen again and this time it seems they're gone for good. The suggestions may have also been partly responsible for the removal of their Formspring, although it may have been a temporary thing in the first place. It did not help that someone posted a fandom secret of pairing the guys up, or the person who uploaded a video consisting of nothing but Slowbeef's laughter strung together for ten minutes, intensely creeping them out. Another one happened in 2013, due to the massive amount of fans taking "Riff" to mean "Bully the uploader off of YouTube", They've started editing out the names of authors in their traditional RPs. Fans continued to track the people down and harass them, so now only the absolute worst of the worst (in their eyes) get riffed on.
- As an April Fools' Day prank, Maddox changed The Best Page In The Universe into One of the Better Pages in the Universe. Most of the fans didn't get the joke and thought either it was a serious new direction, he had a girlfriend imposing the changes, or he was hacked. After reviewing the emails he received reacting to the prank, he declared, "I seriously contemplated taking down my site and just posting links to animal porn for you retards. You're all idiots, and I've lost what little respect I had for you."
- A lot of That Guy with the Glasses contributors used to have FAQ threads on the forums where they would answer any question. Not only have those gone because of questions that got too personal, rude or creepy, but most of the people have even fled the place altogether because of the culminating mess of white-knights, stalkers, trolls, sexist homophobes and death threats.
- There was a site-wide Running Gag that everyone wanted Obscurus Lupa and treated her like a Memetic Sex God. It had a lot of funny moments, there was no sexist behavior involved and it produced loads of Fanfic Fuel, but because too many fans took it as permission to just consider her as a hot chick and not a reviewer, it had to die down.
- Another Lupa-related one. Her relationship with her boyfriend Phelous produced lots of videos and a shared fanbase, but due to some people hitting Lupa with accusations of ruining Phelous' work, she says she's become hesitant to make videos with Phelous as a result.
- While Doug Walker never liked The Dark Knight Rises, his first review of it was trying his best to be nice and constantly interrupting his own opinions to assure people he was probably just overreacting and would never be a Fan Hater about it. But a wave of He Panned It, Now He Sucks, including a facebook post having to be deleted because over 100 people were calling him names for asking why the review got hated so much, made him lose his patience and his "like what you like" mantra was essentially dropped.
- Whenever Walker even tries to make a point about something sexist (to say nothing of the venom any mention of Demo Reel receives), he gets a load of hate from guys saying he's betrayed them. No wonder he makes more money upsetting women by ripping into Sailor Moon.
- The Spoony Experiment once spent months campaigning for votes to win "Funniest Person to Follow" at the Mashable Open Web Awards. After some rather nasty comments about his "Thank You" video, he pulled it and replaced it with "An Appeal For Manners". Spoony also publicly called out his fans for making his (now former) fellow TGWTG contributors hesitant in doing crossovers with him since said fans would inevitably cause a ruckus. There's also been at least one occasion where fans have shown up unannounced and uninvited in cosplay outside of Spoony's house (and apparently have done the same thing to his parents), and refused to leave until the police showed up. Considering that his brother is a police officer who has had people try murder him Noah was very unamused.
- Lewis Lovhaug of Atop the Fourth Wall gets a good deal of this from his History of Power Rangers series, mostly in two different forms. The most prominent is people who harass him about when the next episode will be posted, which has prompted Lewis to comment on multiple videos (with varying levels of annoyance and frustration) that there's no set release schedule and that he has less time to work on the series than he would like thanks to real life and work on the normal AT4W episodes. The other part comes from certain Super Sentai fans who complain about the show without watching partly because they hate Power Rangers and partly because Lewis actively avoids comparing each season to its Sentai counterpart, unless information about the Sentai would be relevant to the discussion , such as Power Rangers Turbo being goofy because Gekisou Sentai Carranger was a parody season. Later, an AT4W episode had Linkara (Lewis's character) insulting people who use ad-blockers to browse his site, which caused a backlash from people who didn't understand the concept of Alter Ego Acting and thought it was serious rather than a joke. This was followed by Lewis posting an out-of-character video to explain that the show is his primary source of income and asking politely for fans to disable ad-blockers because this is quite literally the money he uses to pay rent, buy food, etc., and a couple of thirty-second advertisements shouldn't be that big a problem. Although he later noted a massive increase in ad revenue following this video, there were more than a few commenters who acted like Lewis's request was unreasonable and openly stated their intent to screw him over by continuing to not watch his ads.
- Furry image board site Fchan had played an April Fools prank on its viewers by making every link always direct to a specific category of images instead of the section people intended to click on. People complained loudly about this, causing the admin to revolt by shutting the site down for a day because, in his own words, "People don't know how to take a joke."
- Rule 34 (the site) learned this the hard way, after Dreamhost (their old host) forced them to pull Toddlerkon. The following April, after they had completed the move to DUTCH servers, they put up one of those stock FBI warnings (which had anyone paid attention to where they moved would have been bloody obviously fake) and claimed lolicon was about to go, which was further helped along by e-hentai REALLY having to do this at coincidentally the same time due to their own hosts, and also the guilty verdicts of the Whorley and Handley cases in real life. The response when the veil was lifted? A hacker taking over the site and replacing everything with pictures of tigers (both tanks and animals), then his penis, and finally 20ish straight days of DDoS which obliterated a server and is partly responsible for why the site runs like crap today. Porn on the internet. Srsbsns. Interestingly, the second April Fool's joke went completely unnoticed due to the furor over the first, with a total of three comments over the following week about it. The second 2010 April Fool's joke? Aliasing Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to Big_Green_Talking_Turtles, Baxter's infamous line in the first season. Was lampshaded later when the site ran a vote for what missing features from the move were to return. This being the internet, the joke option won, and so everything was turned into Atari Jaguars instead, continuing the big cat theme the troll had started.note
- Artists have been known to remove their galleries from art sites due to harassment from certain fans and other such stuff. Due to some of the troublesome nature, many prefer to remain anonymous or only speak through their friends nowadays. Some examples include:
- Someone opening requests and winding up with people obsessively asking when their requests were done, or winding up with so much they can't do it anymore. Other times, artists have only opened up certain commission slots depending on the comments posted due to "snipers" only to get constantly complained at. Artists have been known to limit commission slots or put restrictions on the content because people would post within ten minutes and buy off most of the slots, etc.
- Seeing their work posted on other sites without their permission, traced, ripped, etc. Sometimes even worse when they got accused of it and got banned by the art thieves because of bribery, nepotism, and corruption on art sites favouring the thieves.
- Het Is Ew mentalities. Extreme fans have been known to send hate-mail to creators (even JK Rowling!) because they made a heterosexual pair canon, or drew pictures of heterosexual couples. This has happened numerous times on deviantART, Sheezyart, and even FurAffinity. An anime-artist known for drawing Yaoi once decided to draw a picture of her OC making out with an OC of her real life boyfriend. Her fanbase proceeded to flood the comments section saying how disgusting it was and saying she was skimping on them. She proceeded to delete her account because people begun to make misogynistic comments without taking into account that the artist was female in real life.
- There's also one comic that shows the inverse cause, but same result of this trope. An artist in the Furry Fandom (complete with Furry Avatar) posts a picture, asking for comments. One of the comments heaped on the praise, but gave too much information. This shifts the artist out of the furry avatar state, cue a couple of beat panels, and he's trying to get to sleep with "Sweaty from arousal" running in a loop in his head.
- Some artists have been known to close commissions down after people harassed them. Either stuff happened in real life and commissioners harassed them about when their pic would be done, terrible customers would ask them to constantly redo the pic because they messed stuff up, people stiffing payment, etc. A real life professional artist (read: Someone who draws art for a living) had to put stiff requirements on commissions because she had to spend up to $100 in supplies for a troublesome customer only for him to stiff her and cancel the job when it was already done. She put it in her portfolio anyways, but proceeded to see that pic put up in that customers' gallery and treated as a "Request". Another artist reported a troublesome customer asking him to redo the pic numerous times and found every rejected sketch uploaded to that customer's gallery.
- In almost any art web site, artists who grow popular tend to be cautious in revealing their contact and messenger information due to people either trying to mooch off of them for free art or harass them over anything.
- Fan artists have closed their galleries or stopped posting altogether due to offensive comments that fanfiction or fan art is not art and accusations of plagiarism and tracing.
- It is quite common on erotic/hentai galleries for any artist who attempts to create a story sequence with any sort of extended buildup to be bombarded with comments demanding that they "get to the sex already", "stop messing about" or even "stop doing it wrong". Unsurprisingly, some artists just lose their mojo, their groove or their temper, and stop posting instead.
- Many artists, particularly on Pixiv, are staunchly against the posting of their art on other sites; pages like the Japan-based Online Fanarts Protection exist to inform people about such policies. Although artists are generally fine with people linking to the pages for their art on sites like Twitter and Facebook, they draw the line at their art being uploaded onto sites such as Tumblr, and will often have a quip on their Pixiv profile warning users against the unauthorized posting of their art on other sites, or at the least telling fans to ask them before reposting. Some artists will go as far as to make their works private or delete them altogether if this problem is bad enough. Reactions to this sort of policy have been mixed; fellow artists generally agree with them, citing that they prefer to control where on the web their works show up (especially considering some users don't bother to give credit to the original artist when posting their images, or worse, claim the art as their own) while many non-artists, especially Westerners, feel that there's no point complaining about it by virtue of content on the Internet being easily reposted elsewhere and that asking artists for permission to post art on other sites is too much of a hassle, especially when most artists on Pixiv do not understand English and most Westerners don't know Japanese.
- Many IRC-channels have been removed due to harassment and flame wars. The same applies to websites as well; before Serenes Forest became the new go-to place for Fire Emblem information, other sites had served the purpose and were later shut down because the moderators and administrators got too tired of dealing with the raging fans.
- The Tropes Mirror Wiki originally was open for anyone who wanted to sign on and edit. But then a handful of jokers from This Wiki decided the folks over on the Mirror needed to be "punished" for daring to actually exist as a website and started spam-bombing the Mirror by creating new pages that were titled from the old wiki (using actual trope titles of pages that hadn't been imported yet), but filled with porn spam, or ads for erectile dysfunction drugs, or cheap cigarettes, and the like. As a result, new editors have to now be approved by the Admins before they can do anything on the wiki. When one of the spammers was tracked down and confronted, he admitted to doing it as a "fuck you" to the Mirror on behalf of Fast Eddie and TV Tropes, despite the Mirror's existence not violating any law, rule, regulation, or standard of behavior. A different Tropes Mirror Wiki, founded by a different user, exists today, but it can only contain material from This Wiki that originated before July 2012.
- PostSecret opened an iPhone app at the end of 2011 so people could take photographs and edit them quickly to make their own secrets and send them to a separate secret section that other app users could see. While mostly secrets similar to those found on the website people started to send in generally hurtful secrets, often about other secrets sent through the app. PostSecret is known for sending in the most personal secrets people have so rude comments aren't looked upon kindly. This started a huge fight between those being rude, trolls and those trying to defend those being attacked. Actual secrets got pilled under all of these. The creators tried to set up a system where they would screen every secret sent in, which was at an average of 30,000 per day. This quickly proved impossible and the app was closed on the first day of 2012, lasting a total of four months. A lot of the secrets near the end of the app commented that the app and the "secrets" involved were proof that people really can't govern themselves.
- RubberFruit was one of the most prolific GModders on YouTube, but stopped making videos between December 2011 to July 2012 to show his displeasure towards his subscribers, particularly for constant demands for new videos as well as the habit for fans to spam lines of his works on videos for music he usednote .
- Video Games Awesome! used to have it where anyone could communicate with them in their chat room during their playthroughs, but after one too many instances of trolls spoiling the game for them, they made it so that only donators who contributed at least $50 could participate in the chat, which pissed off some long time fans who couldn't spare the money.
- Totalbiscuit, a person on YouTube known for highly professional video game commentary and being very opinionated, has come under scrutiny multiple times for getting mad at fanboys for being too rabid or too bossy. One of the biggest controversies involving him was when he got mad at a user because they, after telling someone that he doesn't take requests in a completely passive manner (and not rude at all), had told him that he should take requests because he owes it to his fans.
"All fanboys must die."
- Twitch streamer Bwana had enough of the Brain Slug emoticon being synonymous with racist comments* . Not only did he make Twitch change the emoticon to an actual brain slug, he made the old emoticon subscriber only.
- One result of the Seigenthaler incident was The Other Wiki barred unregistered users (i.e., those with IP addresses only) from starting articles (although they are still free to edit those started by registered users).
- This (and the fact that he doesn't want to be remembered for it, as seen here) is the reason why MoBrosStudios will no longer do any Spongebob countdown videos.
- There was a fun little web game called Space Email, where people could send random, anonymous letters to people, ranging from funny (or spammy), sad, or heartwarming. But less than two days after it was made, the program was shut down, because many people also used it as a way to be racist, post other people's personal information, and other unpleasant things. In order to protect others from getting hurt, the program was pulled, ruining the chance for anyone else to make a letter.
- The fandom of Dragon Cave is known for being overly prone to some types of fans, but only once has it really become this. The Frilled dragon was a very nice, but exceptionally common breed. The combination of this and its description being the same as other, more valuable breeds caused a massive backlash, to the point of outright insulting its sprite and artist. At first the creator tried to brainstorm ways to make it more appealing, but eventually she got so sick of the thing that she straight out discontinued the breed. No nobody, even the many players who love them, can get more.
- Because most of JoshScorcher's fanbase has a tendency to harass the people he made response videos to, he decided to (maybe) stop doing response videos altogether.
- The popular fanfic website Fanfiction.net has had a number of changes to its hosting as to what it can and cannot feature. One of them was deleting the entirety of the Mystery Science Theater 3000, since that fandom's main type of story format, MSTings, had been used to attack authors of bad fanfiction and not just do good-natured ribbing.
- The website Know Your Meme ended up shutting down its "Cringeworthy" image gallery after a series of pictures depicting a drawing of an inflated Hercules kept getting posted and upvoted by fans. The galleries for "Childhood Enhanced" and "Ruined Childhood" followed suit, mostly because "Childhood Enhanced" would mostly be pictures of female characters in more sexual scenes.
- Because of generally good behavior and quality in sporkings presented, Das Mervin, mod of the sporking community Das Sporking, announced that new sporkers no longer had to apply or be approved of and could post whenever they wanted to. Three months later, a series of major cases of rule-breaking caused Mervin to temporarily shut down the comm and announce that sporkers once again could only post after being approved.
- Mark Does Stuff used to allow people to do one off commissions of movies and episodes of random TV shows, which would let you see Mark react to it for the first time and get a short write-up about it. It was eventually stopped, in part because it was too time-consuming and hosting was overly expensive, but also because fans of the show would become hugely demanding if Mark didn't watch the entire show or write enough about it. Similarly, enough bronies kept sending Mark demanding, rude, sexist and racist stuff demanding to just go and start watching My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic immediately that its now permanently off his watch list, since he does not want to deal with the dark parts of its fandom.
- In-universe example: in the fifth season of The Guild, main character Codex gets a job at the company that makes the MMO she and her guildmates are obsessed with, only to find that the creator is a neurotic recluse who has scrapped the nearly-finished expansion multiple times for fear of provoking the ire of his game's massive Hate Dumb.
- YouTube Poop creator cs188 took down two of his poops, "No one needs foundation repair" and "Escape from HoH SiS", because both used an advertisement from a foundation repair company in Texas who filed a complaint against him on YouTube. After taking them down, he put up a video explaining why they were taken down, and asked that anyone else using that company's ads for a source do likewise. But three years later, after receiving a call from one of the employees saying that someone had prank-called the company, he put up another video asking people not to do that.
- Nerd³ "rebooted" his YouTube channel and started ignoring almost everything his fans said in December 2013. He wrote a detailed explanation of exactly why he did this, saying that it helped turn video making back into a paid hobby instead of an extremely stressful career.
"The community is toxic because they think you're their friend. When they don't like something they won't just dislike and move on, they'll take it as an attack on our 'friendship' and respond in kind."
- Bald Dumbo Rat, head of producing Doctor Whooves and Assistant, has a side blog called Lovestruck Derpy. However, when he uploaded voiced over dubs of the pictures on YouTube, they became one of his channel's most popular videos. Unfortunately, since delays are long between updates of the dub. Rabid fans attacked him and even gave his boyfriend death threats when they responded calmly. He is on the verge of taking down the blog, and posted a response video saying that, surprise surprise, these insults aren't helping at all.
Want (Lovestruck Derpy) to be up to date? Want more Doctor Whooves and Assistant? Now leave me alone.
- The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Wiki "TurtlePedia" has had to shut down discussion pages on occasion due to rampant bullying from a small handful of members toward the majority. Some articles also have had to have long-term admin-only blocks due to one or two people continuously adding false information (including, but not limited to, obvious fan characters into articles on official works), and then complaining about them being the victims of bullying when they're asked to quit vandalizing.
- Two Yogscast channels, specifically Rythian and Simon Lane and Lewis Brindley's joint channel, turned comments off for a few months in 2013. The former did it because he felt it was just getting annoying, the latter did it in part because of that (you can see examples of just what was written here) but the main reason was because of fraudsters, who pretended that Simon had died and that extra funding was needed to complete Shadow of Israphel. They did eventually turn them back on in both cases, however.
- The staggering amount of backlash received by controversial media critic Anita Sarkeesian has made it next to impossible to mention her name for any reason whatsoever on certain sites without someone flying off the handle. This is not only limited to Trolls who send her sexual harassment and occasionally threaten to open fire at her panels, but also to those who have given her and her statements reasonably tame criticism (i.e., lack of research, poor wording), who often receive massive backlash from her supporters who feel responsible for protecting her efforts to make a difference, resulting in an originally benign discussion becoming an all-out Flame War.
- Captain Sparklez is mostly positive about fan feedback, but on occasion he gets fed up with “Stop Having Fun” Guys and very nearly cancelled one of his modded Minecraft shows because they were being unreasonable. For context, that series had over one hundred mods installed, and fans expected him to know how every single one worked.
- Kim Richards, a member of the Yogscast, has mentioned that due to irrational fan hatred, to the point of harassment, racism and "fans" calling for her to be fired because they don't like her, she does not read the comments section for her videos anywhere near as much as she used to. Given the effect that it was starting to have on her, it was probably for the best.
- Sips used to read the comments on his videos fairly regularly, occasionally joining in with bashing against both him and Sjin. However, due to the comments section now being a total mess, he now prefers to use Reddit instead due it being more organised and fans being considerably more rational there.
- PewDiePie has turned off comments at least once. This is because things tend to degenerate very quickly into flame wars, making it hard for him to get any genuine fan feedback. He's also had trolls accuse him falsely of beating his girlfriend, which he did not like, for some bizarre reason.
- On May 2014, Manu Larcenet closed his blog where he published exclusive cartoons after they were reused without prior authorisation.
- Todd Kauffman, character designer/director for Total Drama and creator of Sidekick, had a chatbox on his blog which he used to answer questions for his fanbase. Then, despite—or perhaps because of—his warnings not to imitate him or else he would delete the chatbox, a huge ginormous number of impostors went on all at once one day in May 2011. The chatbox was deleted soon after, but he started a new one in early June.
- The Ren & Stimpy Show creator John Kricfalusi used to host regular AIM chats with the fandom, and post Q&A sessions on certain Ren and Stimpy message boards. Some chats and question sessions went well, at least at first. However, after a large amount of "heckling" and being drowned out with constant clamoring requests of "Do you like this show? What do you think of this show? What's your opinion on anime?", etc. (Mostly done for the purpose of troll-baiting his opinionated statements against animated shows he doesn't like) and even moderation not helping matters of people getting somewhat out of hand, he dropped this method of communication altogether. However, he later would created his own self-moderated blog to talk about various subjects and drawing and animated character theories, and does participate in comment discussions there. But he has lessened considerably himself from making as many overt statements about cartoons he does not like, quite as much, focusing more of his attention on simply praising the inspirations he does admire.
- Greg Weisman, creator of Gargoyles and The Spectacular Spider-Man, ran a blog called "Ask Greg" for years with little to no incident. Fan could ask questions about the kinds of details that never make it into shows (like "What are Gargoyle marriage customs like?"). When he began work on Young Justice, the blog was positively deluged by questions blatantly asking for spoilers from upcoming stories, questioners being incredibly rude or demanding, masking criticisms or flames as questions, duplicate questions etc. This led to a temporary closing of the question form and new rules on what could be asked. Things calmed down, but the March 2012 airing of episodes in Turkey before the U.S. has led to an influx of questions basically asking for summaries of the dialogue in those episodes, so only time will tell how long Ask Greg will remain open.
- As of April 2012, Greg has openly stated he is on the verge of shutting the blog down completely.
- As of July 2013, the website stopped accepting new questions, suggesting that this trope may finally be in play. Fortunately, all indications point to there simply being a massive backlog of submissions (especially from the build-up and wake of the Young Justice finale).
- The My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic episode "The Last Roundup" was originally broadcast with a full-fledged appearance by fan-favorite background pony Derpy Hooves, complete with her being referred to by name. Unfortunately, to some people it looked like a mockery of the mentally handicapped (the name "Derpy" is often used to mock mentally handicapped people), so the episode was taken off of iTunes and replaced with a new version, in which Derpy's name is not mentioned, her voice is changednote , and her trademark crossed eyes were corrected. Some bronies were not happy. Furthermore, any merchandise featuring Derpy that's been released since the incident has gone out of its way not to mention her name. However, this has not stopped other, less controversial fan nicknames from making it into official merchandise. She appears in later episodes, but pretty much as a voiceless, nameless, background character. After all the drama it had caused, fans are fairly grateful for this.
- John de Lancie had to shut down production on bonus features for his Bronycon documentary due to rampant piracy.
- After the disaster that was Las Pegasus Unicon, both Tara Strong and Nicole Oliver have opted out of attending conventions for at least a year. Voice Actors now only try to attend the larger cons due to other commitments.
- The production crew for The Simpsons now ignore complaints of Seasonal Rot because of the picky fans that used to frequent alt.tv.simpsons and nitpick perfectly good episodes.
- Tress MacNeille once had to cancel several convention appearances because of a creepy stalker obsessed with Babs Bunny; the man sent her several disturbing letters that gave the impression he planned to rape her. This was later parodied in an actual episode where Babs is screaming and running away from a creepy Tiny Toons fan.
- Animaniacs created a skit called "The Please Please PLEASE Get a Life Foundation" based on the same fan, as well as a Usenet group that pointed out errors in the show. The show's producers ended up flying the posters of that group out to have the sketch pre-screened for them; they were met with horror and incredulity when one of the posters corrected a quote used in the sketch from memory.
- Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko make as few con appearances as possible because their fans have been stalking them and harassing the voice actors about fan shipping. They reject any invitation to a convention other than the San Diego Comic Con due to its high security.
- Ultimate Spider-Man's critical reception eventually resulted in the fanbase attacking the creators and Jeph Loeb. After a certain amount of time, Jeph or Marvel ended up taking down Jeph's Facebook page.note
- For a short time at the beginning of season 3, Frederator made weekly Adventure Time recaps called "Mathematical" for each episode that would also include themed caller segments. Then, the recap for the episode "What Was Missing" referenced the Marceline/Bubblegum pairing and asked for feedback, causing an explosion from some fans (from Shipping Wars to general homophobia to shippers calling one of the shows writers a homophobe because he didn't like the recap), to the point where the Mathematical channel was deleted from YouTube, along with all the recaps, and Fred Seibert himself posted an apology for all the crazinesss.
- With the revival of Toonami, the crew created a Tumblr to interact and answer fan questions. However, as of April 2013, they disabled the Q&A option due to endless nonsense and people asking the same questions over and over, and only open it up again from time to time for Q&A days.
- The Family Guy episode "Turban Cowboy" features one scene where Peter drunkenly runs over runners of the Boston Marathon, and another where Peter unknowingly sets off a bomb when he attempts to use a cell phone; the episode aired just a month before the April 2013 bombing at the real Boston Marathon. That Fox responded by pulling the episode from pretty much everywhere it could legally be viewed from in the US was already basically inevitable - that someone else responded by editing the clips together to make it look like Peter bombed the marathon made it a sure deal. To put it in perspective, the show's notoriously irreverent creator, Seth Mac Farlane, was utterly disgusted by that video remix.
- Ciro Nieli, the man behind the 2012 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot, signed up on a high-profile message board on the subject. After only a few posts, he announced that he was leaving and never coming back, due to being outright bullied over tiny perceived foibles over and over, including one user that posted many times, complaining about the same exact thing in each post leading to dozens of messages in-between his visits about the same thing, from the same person.
- Microsoft blogger Raymond Chen deleted an entire backlog of stories about one coworker after people ignored his request not to try to guess his identity.
- Some people who upload series to Keep Circulating the Tapes on sites such as YouTube may delete their channels to encourage people to buy the DVD set. Occasionally, they wind up chased off of the site by certain fans who don't want to pay for official DVD sets. In particular, one user whose identity shall remain anonymous dedicated a lot of time to keeping the tapes circulated for old shows that had not been given a DVD release. In particular, they uploaded the entire Daria series to their channel and mirror channels, and deleted them when the DVD release finally came around; but then they deleted their accounts after rabid fans begun to yell at him for asking them to buy the DVD release and telling others where to find torrents of the series. When s/he shut down the channel, a dozen series that never had a DVD release disappeared with it.
- Hotels that are commonly booked for business meetings or conventions have sometimes even turned away congoers/attenders because in the previous year, they trashed rooms, stole things, harassed hotel staff/other guests, or raised ruckuses.
- The YMCA in one state refused to host a Jr. High camping weekend because a group of kids lit a fire in the cabins.
- Other YMCAs have reported similar damages - one in Colorado banned a Jr. High camping weekend from ever being hosted there after a grill went missing from an adjacent campsite and was later discovered inside their swimming pool.
- New Jersey FurBQ was completely canceled after 2012 when a few people did very lewd things in public, causing the town to not only threaten the people hosting the event with legal action, but cut the budget of their emergency services, which the event was used as a charity to raise money for them.
- The city of Pasadena, California has now refused to allow the the Power Morphicon to be held in their city due to a pie throwing panel held by Paul Schrier and Jason Narvy, better known as Bulk and Skull, netting a whopping 9000 dollars in damages.
- Allegedly, a convention in Las Vegas was banned from Mandalay Bay because hotel staff reported seeing bathroom doors ripped off, shattered mirrors, and entire sets of clothing stuffed down the toilets.
- The same thing frequently happens with music venues. While bands will sometimes get blacklisted from certain venues for things like theft, vandalism, or general bad behavior, fans are frequently the ones who ruin things. Someone gets assaulted/groped in the pit? Moshing gets banned. Underage kids coming into all-ages/18+ shows and getting adults to buy them booze? Age restriction gets changed to a blanket 21+. Fights repeatedly breaking out or people stealing/vandalizing property on a consistent basis at shows of a certain genre? The venue blacklists that entire genre. It goes like this: if a venue that used to be known for shows stops booking bands of a certain genre or stops having them altogether, chances are very good that it's because a select group of assholes ruined it for everyone.
- Guns N' Roses is an infamous example. The reason why they're Persona Non Grata in St. Louis? The concertgoers at their show at the Riverport Amphitheater responded to Axl Rose stopping the show in response to a bootlegging attempt by rioting and causing damage to the venue in the process. That's right, Axl Rose was Mis-blamed for once. And because of that one dumbass would-be pirate, Guns N Roses has been blacklisted by every major venue in the city, and to this day, their music, while still allowed in the city, leaves a bad taste in the mouths of a bunch of people in St. Louis, particularly those who have some connection to Riverport.
- In Las Vegas, taxi drivers hate some sports fans because of their tendencies to immediately dash out of the taxi cab.
- At least one hotel has considered banning Homestuck cosplayers altogether because of the messes that the grey bodypaint on those cosplaying as Trolls causes, including damage to the plumbing and pools and hot tubs that have had to be drained because cosplayers thought that would be a quicker way to get it off.
- According to Pete Townshend, The Who were banned from all Holiday Inn hotels after drummer Keith Moon helped trash a hotel in Flint, Michigan.
- Gun control is enforced because of this. Whenever someone commits mass murder, government officials support the idea that restricting the purchase of certain weapons will aid in reducing the number of these incidents.
- Civil servants and government officials frequently feel this way about newspaper columnists and the public. More than one former Treasury official has secretly admitted to deeply hating the media and public, generally because they expect more of the government than it can reasonably provide or because they demand the government direct its money in a certain way without thinking through the consequences.
- Twilight fans actually found a way of inverting this trope. After the stars of the film broke up due to Kristen Stewart cheating on Robert Pattinson with a married director, Twi-hards flocked to their nearest outlet store in order to hide magazines that detailed the story. Some of them even took pictures of themselves doing it, making this a bizarre case of Why Non-Obsessed People Can't Have Normal Things.
- AMC Theatres has banned people from wearing certain costumes it feels may make others feel uneasy (this may include costumes worn by, among others, Batman, Catwoman, and Bane—in all fairness, a Bane costume would definitely make a fellow moviegoer feel uneasy) in the wake of James Holmes's homicidal rampage at a Cinemark theatre in Colorado. It may not help that Holmes referred to himself as The Joker.
- Stonehenge can no longer be directly accessed by tourists, except under special circumstances, because of the danger that people will chip off pieces as souvenirs.
- Any online forum or message board is bound to fall into this trope when there's a surge of trolling or other nonsense. Used to be able talk about specific topics freely or say certain words without harm? Thanks to a few people going too far, now no one can have that freedom. Used to be able to post files and links to share with members? Now you can't do it anymore thanks to a few members abusing the system. If there's a lot of entitled bastards within the community, you can expect them to blame the administrators and/or moderators for revoking specific privileges, even if certain members are at fault. This is part of the reason why many mainstream blogs are switching from their own commenting system to Facebook commenting - it (supposedly) cuts down on the flame wars when people have to use their real Facebook account, and troll accounts are deleted by Facebook which frees up the moderators to do other tasks.
- For troops and families stationed in US military bases overseas, this can be a problematic issue when some military member commits a serious crime against locals (at least in Japan). This angers the host country's government and citizens that a base curfew lockdown is enforced in response, until things eventually return to normal. You won't be able to enter the base after hanging around at clubs late at night and you will be questioned by armed guards.
- Neil Gaiman no longer gives his own opinions and speculations about Doctor Who due to getting hate mail and being quoted out of context by news outlets after he gave his opinion on the Twelfth Doctor's casting and the 13-regeneration limit rumor.
- On Tumblr, it is not uncommon for bloggers to wipe their blogs or make unannounced changes to their usernames if a post they write happens to instigate a massive Internet Backdraft. Suck backdrafts are much more frequent when the topic of social justice is brought up; let's just leave it at that.
- GameFAQs brings us the infamous "Life, the Universe, and Everything" board (aka LUE), which has a rather interesting backstory.
- When a LUE regular posted on another social board and subsequently drew its ire, other LUE regulars flocked to that same board for a mass posting invasion. Then-admin CJayC gave LUE three choices: shut down LUE, raise the level requirement for posting, or split the board. Regulars agreed on the level requirement increase.
"LUE gets FOUR times the moderated messages of any other board, more account bannings than any other board, and definitely causes more than its fair share of trouble than any other board on the entire site. This can't go on. The problem is not with the moderators or the TOS; the same moderators and the same rules apply on every other board on the site, yet no other board needs the kind of attention that LUE appears to require."
- LUE got its Wham Episode in November 2003, when someone on the board instigated the invasion of a successful suicide attemptee's memorial blog. CJayC, after some legal threats that he was able to deal with, imposed a user ID cap on the board, disallowing anyone whose account was created after a particular date from ever viewing or posting on LUE.
- Then there's the "ExcLUEsion", in which CJayC turned LUE into an opt-in board with an 11-day opt-in window, on top of the other restrictions already in place; anyone who missed their opportunity can never come to LUE ever (again), so that the board dies of lack of posters. Nowadays, since the members became older and wiser, and are now lawyers, doctors, teachers or any other profession, the board is now one of the least disruptive of GameFAQs.
- Midnight showings/Releases. All it takes is for one group of idiots to make management decide not to do them anymore. Examples taken from some blogs include:
- A midnight showing of Twilight ending with a member that disliked Twilight assaulting several people in line coupled with a massive mess in the theatre.
- A midnight release of Grand Theft Auto IV ending with someone stealing copies.
- A midnight release of a Call of Duty ending with someone shouting "Call of Duty sucks!", tagging the store, and spray-painting several people in attendance in the face.
- A fistfight breaking out over the last Playstation 3 in 2006.
- Artists on DeviantArt and such who take commissions or do side things (like "adoptables") eventually either severely restrict requests or stop doing certain things because some people would run them down to no end with either criticisms or asinine requests.
- At Mines View Park in Baguio City, Philippines, there used to be local children who would climb onto the wishing well and catch coins thrown by tourists, in a showcase of their balancing abilities and to attract tourism. However, over time, some of the more Jerk Ass tourists would hurl coins at the children with the intent to Troll and/or injure them. Unsurprisingly, the act of children catching coins thrown at the well is not practiced anymore.
- Many blogs, especially on Tumblr, may disable anonymous comments or asks entirely if certain people abuse the GIFT as an excuse to harass people. While disabling anon usually cuts down on the vitriol, it also means that those who might not have an account or are too shy to come forward with their name attached can no longer do so even if their intent is completely benign.
- A lot of organizations allow fans of a particular hobby to carry out their business on organization property as long as everyone follows the rules and no one is getting hurt. Everyone has a jolly good time until someone abuses this privilege or breaks the rules or otherwise acts like an asshat, so the privilege is revoked from everyone. For instance, during the 90's, it was common for primary schools in the U.S. to allow any manner of trading card games to take place during recess. Then one group of kids starts stealing cards or getting into fights over who won what game, leading to PTA or teachers just banning the things to avoid anymore trouble.
- Several anime conventions used to be lenient with their cosplay weapon policies, such as permitting fake weapon props as long as they were inspected and marked with an orange tape (as well as other common sense rules like no threatening people). Then a series of incidents lead to a blanket ban of anything resembling a weapon thanks to a few people who decided to bring real weapons or start fights (real or fake) in front of innocent bystanders (who may summon the police). Many cosplays suffer because in several cases, the weapon makes the character.
- TV Tropes has a Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment meant to prevent any Flame Wars in This Wiki (read that page for more). Unfortunately in some situations, some tropers completely ignore this rule, leading to the mods locking the page most likely for good, which means nobody gets to add and edit future tropes. A few pages have also been locked to stop persistent vandals who are too savvy to be simply blocked. On a related note, the YMMV tropes and pages were created to keep the more controversial tropes off of the main pages, but even that has led to YMMV pages ending up getting locked or even deleted.
- In extreme cases, there's the Permanent Red Link Club, in which the tropes are so misused, become a magnet for racial slurs and personal attacks, and the like that not only the page is locked, the page (and in some occasions, the entire trope) gets deleted, never to be used again. Forever.
- Previously, the only pages that were cut and locked were Permanent Red Link Club members such as I Am Not Making This Up and So Yeah. However, as tropers were continuously attempting to revive redundant and unnecessary tropes placed on the Cut List, nowadays pretty much anything that was cut is now auto-locked. However, unless it's on the Permanent Red Link Club, it can be unlocked if the page can be proven to be useful on YKTTW and the like.
- The trope Please Elaborate was meant to be a handy tool for Tropers. If one found a poor example, but didn't know the source material well enough to expand it themselves, they would add that example to Please Elaborate, and a troper with actual knowledge of said example could fix it. It joined the Permanent Red Link Club when lazy tropers started adding Please Elaborate to their examples pre-emptively to pawn off the actual elaboration of said example to other tropers.
- And in less extreme but still unfortunate cases, Real Life examples can be cut and prohibited from a page if things get controversial enough. On that note, there's also the Example Sectionectomy, for which examples are either cut entirely or relegated to a separate area such as Darth Wiki or the Discussion tab if things get nasty.
- This is the reason why Fetish Fuel and Troper Tales no longer exist in TV Tropes. Some people couldn’t resist putting controversial and creepy content in Fetish Fuel and Troper Tales, which led to these sections being sent off to separate off-site wikis. The newly-separated wikis tend to die out, but that doesn't matter when the original problem is solved.
- TV Tropes used to have a "strikethrough markup", but it was eventually disabled as people were using it simply to sneak in Take Thats and such. Texts that were previously striked are now hidden texts. The strike format is still usable in the forums, though.
- Colored text was removed due to negative use and abuse of hard-to-read colors. Now even the easy-to-read colors like red and blue are forever gone from the site. It was eventually restored for the forums.
- Headscratchers used to be called "It Just Bugs Me", but was renamed because people kept misinterpreting it as "Why does <insert anything here> suck so much?".
- The Archive of Bellicose Lexicon Entities was a series of articles listing tropers accordingly to their visions on trope naming, images, example lists and the like. However, since it was determined that these articles, rather than serving their purpose as fun places for like-minded tropers to associate, were inspiring antagonism and factionalism among our user base, they have been discontinued and all of them eventually redirect back to that index. Tropers are no longer listed, as they can simply add themselves through their userpages anyway.
- Trolls, vandals and sockpuppeteers attacking the site and its articles led to a recreation of the login/handle creation system in spring, replacing the standard sign up theme with a CAPTCHA approval addon.
- For similar reasons, troper pages can now only be edited by the tropers themselves who created them. The days when a good-faith user could sign or leave a fun commentary in another troper's page (which was known as "fun vandalism"), or even simply fix a spelling mistake, are unfortunately over because of this.
- Many threads in the forums that contained intelligent discussions get locked when people start and keep trolling, flaming each other, or derailing the topic after being told more than once by the moderators to knock it off, ruining it for everyone else who wished to continue the discussion in a civil manner. While some threads get temporarily locked to let everyone cool off, other threads can get locked forever, never to be reopened unless a mod says otherwise.
- Zero Context Examples used to be a free pass back when many trope names were self explanatory until people started throwing in tropes on list of works without giving any examples at all, not realizing that people won't always get why a character is or is not a Knight Templar or that readers may not want to look up every single trope if no examples are present. Nowadays, tropes listed in works that have no examples are usually edited to be hidden until someone can find actual examples that fit the listed trope.
- Character Alignments are no longer allowed on main or even YMMV pages because of the edit wars they caused. You'd be hard-pressed to try to fit anything other than the flattest, most one-dimensional character into one of the nine Character Alignment boxes.
- In at least one case, continued violations of the Spoiler Policy on a single page have caused a total page-wide prohibition on the spoiler markup.
- Unfortunate Implications is one of the few pages on the entire site that requires citations. Any entry posted without one will immediately be zapped. Before this policy was in place, the page was overrun with edit wars over whether something was offensive or not. The citations became mandatory because they showed that it wasn't just one person who was thinking that way.