History Main / WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings

31st Aug '16 4:01:51 PM DoctorTItanX
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** Following racist and sexist remarks included among a torrent of hate against the film, director Paul Feig and everyone else in charge of the film responded by censoring ''any'' criticism of the film, even legitimate criticism, as bigoted. [[CantTakeCriticism Needless to say, ]][[OvershadowedByControversy it did not end well. ]]''[[BoxOfficeBomb At ]][[StillbornFranchise all.]]''

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** Following the racist and sexist remarks included among a torrent of hate against the film, director Paul Feig and everyone else in charge of the film responded by impartially censoring ''any'' criticism of the film, even all legitimate criticism, as bigoted. [[CantTakeCriticism Needless to say, ]][[OvershadowedByControversy say,]] [[OvershadowedByControversy it did not end well. ]]''[[BoxOfficeBomb At ]][[StillbornFranchise well.]] ''[[BoxOfficeBomb At]] [[StillbornFranchise all.]]''
31st Aug '16 10:49:52 AM ryanasaurus0077
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* Leslie Jones, Patti of ''Film/{{Ghostbusters2016}}'', was driven off Twitter when [[http://thevine.com.au/society/racism/ghostbusters-star-leslie-jones-calls-disgusting-racist-abuse-shes-received-since-film/ she was intentionally bombarded with terribly racist tweets]] for just appearing in the movie.

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* ''Film/{{Ghostbusters|2016}}'':
** Following racist and sexist remarks included among a torrent of hate against the film, director Paul Feig and everyone else in charge of the film responded by censoring ''any'' criticism of the film, even legitimate criticism, as bigoted. [[CantTakeCriticism Needless to say, ]][[OvershadowedByControversy it did not end well. ]]''[[BoxOfficeBomb At ]][[StillbornFranchise all.]]''
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Leslie Jones, Patti of ''Film/{{Ghostbusters2016}}'', who portrayed Patti, was driven off Twitter when [[http://thevine.com.au/society/racism/ghostbusters-star-leslie-jones-calls-disgusting-racist-abuse-shes-received-since-film/ she was intentionally bombarded with terribly racist tweets]] for just appearing in the movie.
31st Aug '16 9:57:17 AM DoctorTItanX
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* In 2015, CBS and Paramount gave a lawsuit towards the creators of ''WebVideo/PreludeToAxanar'' when it was revealed that the creators were actually ''profiting'' from the ''Star Trek'' name in the process of making the follow-up movie ''Star Trek: Axanar''. Because of this, CBS and Paramount set up specific guidelines for making fan movies, effectively and permanently killing fan continuations and feature-length movies. For example, creators, actors and all other participants must genuinely and deliberately consist only of amateurs, and can neither be compensated for their services, nor be currently nor previously employed on any ''Star Trek'' series, films, production of DVD(s) nor with any of CBS nor Paramount Pictures’ licensees. They must also be intentionally 15 minutes long or in two parts that combined, cannot go beyond half a hour, with no follow-ups whatsoever, not even remakes. One known casualty is ''WebVideo/StarTrekRenegades'', which ended up stripping itself of all of its ''Star Trek'' connections and going fully original.

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* In 2015, CBS and Paramount gave a lawsuit towards the creators of ''WebVideo/PreludeToAxanar'' when it was revealed that the creators were actually ''profiting'' from the ''Star Trek'' name in the process of making the follow-up movie ''Star Trek: Axanar''. Because of this, CBS and Paramount set up specific guidelines for making fan movies, effectively and permanently killing fan continuations and feature-length movies. For example, creators, actors and all other participants must genuinely and deliberately consist only of amateurs, and can neither be compensated for their services, nor be currently nor previously employed on any ''Star Trek'' series, films, production of DVD(s) nor with any of CBS nor Paramount Pictures’ licensees. They must also be intentionally 15 minutes long or in two parts that combined, cannot go beyond half a an hour, with no follow-ups whatsoever, not even remakes. One known casualty is ''WebVideo/StarTrekRenegades'', which ended up stripping itself of all of its ''Star Trek'' connections and going fully original.
31st Aug '16 9:37:42 AM FromtheWordsofBR
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* Website/GoAnimate was retooled in 2014 as a pay-only business website and later removed the option for casual [=GoPlus=] accounts. However, this didn't stop kids from continuing to make accounts to produce "X Gets Grounded" videos. As a result, the company announced in late 2015 that starting January 2016, they would move to [=HTML5=] instead of Flash and remove any non-business-related themes, to both save money and exterminate incorrect usage of the platform. The fandom [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks exploded with rage and]] [[DisproportionateRetribution Alvin Hung quickly became a giant pariah]]. However, the Comedy World themes were still accessible through a hidden menu in the main video maker. Once people abused this to make Alvin Hung the new grounded video target, the themes were pulled for good. Unfortunately, now [=GoAnimators=] have latched onto [=GoAnimate=] for Schools, which is the last [=GoAnimate=] membership still using the Comedy World themes; given that much of said users are abusing fake school e-mails to sign up, only time will tell when this is taken care of as well. And it eventually was, as [=GoAnimate=] For Schools was later also moved to [=HTML5=], and Comedy World and the other non-business themes were removed there as well, once again to the chagrin of the Grounded fanbase, which made Alvin Hung even more of a pariah than he already was. As that version was made to be used by kids, any doubt left that the Grounded videos and fandom didn't have at least something to do with the removal of the non-business themes was evaporated. Because of all this, it's likely that this means the use of the program for Grounded videos [[GenreKiller will likely not be as common, if it doesn't outright come to an end]].

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* Website/GoAnimate was retooled in 2014 as a pay-only business website and later removed the option for casual [=GoPlus=] accounts. However, this didn't stop kids from continuing to make accounts to produce "X Gets Grounded" videos. As a result, the company announced in late 2015 that starting January 2016, they would move to [=HTML5=] instead of Flash and remove any non-business-related themes, to both save money and exterminate incorrect usage of the platform. The fandom [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks exploded with rage and]] [[DisproportionateRetribution Alvin Hung quickly became a giant pariah]]. However, the Comedy World themes were still accessible through a hidden menu in the main video maker. Once people abused this to make Alvin Hung the new grounded video target, the themes were pulled for good. Unfortunately, now [=GoAnimators=] have latched onto they then proceeded to latch on ''another'' holdout, [=GoAnimate=] for Schools, which is was the last [=GoAnimate=] membership still using the Comedy World themes; given that much of said users are abusing abused fake school e-mails to sign up, only time will tell when this is taken care of as well. And it eventually was, as [=GoAnimate=] For Schools was later which led to ''that'' service also moved switching to [=HTML5=], [=HTML5=] also, and thus finally removing all the Comedy World and the other non-business themes were removed there as well, once again to from the chagrin of the Grounded fanbase, which made Alvin Hung even more of a pariah than he already was.website. As that version was made to be used by kids, any doubt left that the Grounded videos and fandom didn't have at least something to do with the removal of the non-business themes was evaporated. Because of all this, it's likely that this means the use of the program for Grounded videos [[GenreKiller will likely not be as common, if it doesn't outright come to an end]].
25th Aug '16 4:18:30 PM PF
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* Creator/GregWeisman, creator of ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'', ran a blog called "[[http://s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/ Ask Greg]]" for years with little to no incident. Fan could ask questions about the kinds of details that never make it into shows (like "What are Gargoyle marriage customs like?"). When he began work on ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', the blog was positively deluged by questions blatantly asking for spoilers from upcoming stories, questioners being incredibly rude or demanding, masking criticisms or flames as questions, duplicate questions, etc. This led to a temporary closing of the question form and new rules on what could be asked. Things calmed down, but [[ShortRunInPeru the March 2012 airing of episodes in Turkey before the U.S.]] has led to an influx of questions basically asking for summaries of the dialogue in those episodes, so only time will tell how long Ask Greg will remain open. In April 2012, Weisman openly stated he was [[http://s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=946 on the verge]] of shutting the blog down completely. In July 2013, the website stopped accepting new questions. However, the site began accepting questions again in 2014.

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* Creator/GregWeisman, creator of ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'', ran a blog called "[[http://s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/ Ask Greg]]" for years with little to no incident. Fan could ask questions about the kinds of details that never make it into shows (like "What are Gargoyle marriage customs like?"). When he began work on ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', the blog was positively deluged by questions blatantly asking for spoilers from upcoming stories, questioners being incredibly rude or demanding, masking criticisms or flames as questions, duplicate questions, etc. This led to a temporary closing of the question form and new rules on what could be asked. Things calmed down, but [[ShortRunInPeru the March 2012 airing of episodes in Turkey before the U.S.]] has led to an influx of questions basically asking for summaries of the dialogue in those episodes, so only time will tell how long Ask Greg will remain open.episodes. In April 2012, Weisman openly stated he was [[http://s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=946 on the verge]] of shutting the blog down completely. In July 2013, the website temporarily stopped accepting new questions. However, the site began accepting questions again in 2014.until the following year.
25th Aug '16 4:10:28 PM PF
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* Zelda Williams, daughter of the late Creator/RobinWilliams, was driven off social media after trolls descended onto her Facebook and Twitter accounts and attacked her over her father's death. Specifically, they [[DudeNotFunny posted a picture originating from Liveleak of a suicide-by-hanging victim that resembled Robin.]]

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* Zelda Williams, daughter of the late Creator/RobinWilliams, was driven off social media after trolls descended onto her Facebook page and Twitter accounts account and attacked her over her father's death. Specifically, they [[DudeNotFunny posted a picture originating from Liveleak of a suicide-by-hanging victim that resembled Robin.]]
25th Aug '16 4:03:04 PM PF
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One of the many results of {{GIFT}}.

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One of the many results of {{GIFT}}.{{GIFT}}
25th Aug '16 3:52:57 PM PF
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-->-- '''Seiji Mizushima''', director of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00''

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-->-- '''Seiji Mizushima''', director of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00''
''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00''.



* ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'''s critical reception eventually resulted in the fanbase attacking the creators and Creator/JephLoeb. After a certain amount of time, Loeb or Marvel ended up taking down Loeb's Facebook page.[[note]]Later on, there was speculation that wasn't really Loeb's Facebook page, just something an ''Ultimate Spidey'' hater made so other people could have a place to vent, and no one's entirely sure what the real story is.[[/note]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'''s critical reception eventually resulted in the fanbase attacking the creators and Creator/JephLoeb. After a certain amount of time, Loeb or Marvel ended up taking down Loeb's Facebook page.[[note]]Later on, there was speculation that wasn't really Loeb's Facebook page, just something an a ''Ultimate Spidey'' hater made so other people could have a place to vent, and no one's entirely sure what the real story is.[[/note]]



* In extreme cases, there's the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub, in which the tropes are so misused, become a magnet for racial slurs and personal attacks, and the like that not only the page is locked, the page (and in some occasions, the entire trope) gets deleted, never to be used again.
** Previously, the only pages that were cut and locked were Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub members such as IAmNotMakingThisUp and SoYeah. However, as tropers were continuously attempting to revive redundant and unnecessary tropes placed on the CutList, nowadays anything that was cut is now auto-locked. However, unless it's on the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub, it can be unlocked if the page can be proven to be useful on {{YKTTW}} and the like.
** The trope Please Elaborate was meant to be a handy tool for tropers. If one found a poor example, but didn't know the source material well enough to expand it themselves, they would add that example to Please Elaborate, and a troper with actual knowledge of said example could fix it. It joined the Permanent Red Link Club when lazy tropers started adding Please Elaborate to their examples pre-emptively to pawn off the actual elaboration of said example to other tropers.
* And in less extreme but still undesirable cases, RealLife examples can be cut and [[Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease prohibited from a page]] if things get sufficiently controversial. On that note, there's also the ExampleSectionectomy, for which examples are either cut entirely or relegated to a separate area such as DarthWiki or the Discussion tab if things get nasty.
* This is the reason why FetishFuel and TroperTales no longer exist in Wiki/TVTropes. Some people couldn’t resist putting controversial and creepy content in FetishFuel and TroperTales, which led to these sections being [[http://tropertales.wikkii.com/wiki/Main_Page sent off to separate off-site wikis.]] The newly-separated wikis tend to die out, but that doesn't matter when the original problem is solved.

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* In extreme cases, there's the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub, in which the tropes are so misused, become a magnet for racial slurs and personal attacks, and the like that not only the page is locked, the page (and in some occasions, the entire trope) gets deleted, never to be used again. \n** Previously, the only pages that were cut and locked were Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub members such as IAmNotMakingThisUp and SoYeah. However, as tropers were continuously attempting to revive redundant and unnecessary tropes placed on the CutList, nowadays anything that was cut is now auto-locked. However, unless it's on the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub, it can be unlocked if the page can be proven to be useful on {{YKTTW}} and the like.
** * The trope Please Elaborate was meant to be a handy tool for tropers. If one found a poor example, but didn't know the source material well enough to expand it themselves, they would could add that example to Please Elaborate, and a troper with actual knowledge of said example could fix it. It joined the Permanent Red Link Club when lazy tropers started adding Please Elaborate to their examples pre-emptively preemptively to pawn off the actual elaboration of said example to other tropers.
* And in In less extreme but still undesirable cases, RealLife examples can be cut and [[Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease prohibited from a page]] if things get sufficiently controversial. On that note, there's also the ExampleSectionectomy, for which examples are either cut entirely or relegated to a separate area such as DarthWiki or the Discussion tab if things get nasty.
* This is the reason why FetishFuel and TroperTales no longer exist in Wiki/TVTropes.exist. Some people couldn’t resist putting controversial and creepy content in FetishFuel and TroperTales, which led to these sections being [[http://tropertales.wikkii.com/wiki/Main_Page sent off to separate off-site wikis.]] The newly-separated wikis tend to die out, but that doesn't matter when the original problem is solved.



* For similar reasons, troper pages can now only be edited by the tropers who created them. The days when a good faith user could sign or leave a fun commentary in another troper's page (which was known as "fun vandalism"), or even simply fix a spelling mistake, are unfortunately over because of this.

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* For similar reasons, troper Troper pages can now only be edited by the tropers who created them. The days when a good faith user could sign or leave a fun commentary in another troper's page (which was known as "fun vandalism"), or even simply fix a spelling mistake, are unfortunately over because of this.



* The Pantheon/TropePantheons used to be open in terms of adding new gods. However, due to the section's unexpected explosion in popularity, as well as people shoehorning characters into godhoods with little or no justification, there are stricter regulations for adding new gods. This includes a waiting list and a rule that their profile sheet needs to more or less entirely filled out with at least three freeform examples. A more drastic example happened with the Disgraces, they were originally a house for gods who represented a ScrappyIndex, which itself was fine, but people started taking the abuse and mockery too far, [[EveryoneHasStandards even for characters who are universally hated]]. This eventually got to the point where the disgraces were too vitriolic and had to be closed, and eventually the entire house was demolished, the least controversial gods were reworked and placed into actual houses, the most controversial gods made PersonaNonGrata, and massive sweeping Retcons to portfolios all over the pantheon so that [[{{Unperson}} the disgraces may as well have never existed]].
* The Wall Bangers page on the Darth Wiki wound up being completely discontinued as it was becoming a giant FlameWar magnet, with no one seeming to follow the rules of the page, which caused it to become rather redundant to DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck. Some were even using it as an irrational excuse to [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain about shows they didn't like]].
* Originally, ''WebVideo/DeathBattle'', like all other medias, had its own [[DethroningMoment/DeathBattle Dethroning Moment of Suck page]] relating to the outcome of the battles. Eventually, the entries became very contested, with edit wars on the moments being erased and re-added to the point that the mods were forced to lock the page. The debates, however, continued in both in their discussion pages and the locked pages forums with fans requesting their own moments to be added. Ultimately, the mods and tropers decided to completely blacklist the page from ever having a moment again by stripping all of the examples ''in addition'' to locking the page. This is the first, and so far, only series to ever have its dethroning moments truly stripped and blacklisted.

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* The Pantheon/TropePantheons used to be open in terms of adding new gods. However, due to the section's unexpected explosion in popularity, as well as people shoehorning characters into godhoods with little or no justification, there are stricter regulations for adding new gods. This includes a waiting list and a rule that their profile sheet needs to more or less entirely filled out with at least three freeform examples. A more drastic example happened with the Disgraces, they were originally a house for gods who represented a ScrappyIndex, which itself was fine, but people started taking the abuse and mockery too far, [[EveryoneHasStandards even for characters who are universally hated]]. This eventually got to the point where the disgraces were too vitriolic and had to be closed, and eventually the entire house was demolished, the least controversial gods were reworked and placed into actual houses, the most controversial gods made PersonaNonGrata, and massive sweeping Retcons retcons to portfolios all over the pantheon so that [[{{Unperson}} the disgraces may as well have never existed]].
* The Wall Bangers page on the Darth Wiki wound up being completely discontinued due to it being seen as it was becoming a giant FlameWar magnet, with no one seeming to follow the rules of the page, which caused it to become magnet and being rather redundant to DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck. Some were even using it as an irrational excuse to [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain about shows they didn't like]].
DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck.
* Originally, ''WebVideo/DeathBattle'', like all other medias, media, had its own [[DethroningMoment/DeathBattle Dethroning Moment of Suck page]] relating to the outcome of the battles. Eventually, the entries became very contested, with edit wars on the moments being erased and re-added to the point that the mods were forced to lock the page. The debates, however, continued in both in their discussion pages and the locked pages forums with fans requesting their own moments to be added. Ultimately, the mods and tropers decided to completely blacklist the page from ever having a moment again by stripping all of the examples ''in addition'' to locking the page. This is the first, and so far, only series to ever have its dethroning moments truly stripped and blacklisted.
25th Aug '16 11:31:26 AM Theatre_Maven_3695
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* The DarthWiki.WallBanger page on the Darth Wiki wound up being completely discontinued as it was becoming a giant FlameWar magnet, with no one seemed to follow the rules of the page, which caused it to become rather redundant to DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck. Some were even using it as an irrational excuse to [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain about shows they didn't like]].

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* The DarthWiki.WallBanger Wall Bangers page on the Darth Wiki wound up being completely discontinued as it was becoming a giant FlameWar magnet, with no one seemed seeming to follow the rules of the page, which caused it to become rather redundant to DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck. Some were even using it as an irrational excuse to [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain about shows they didn't like]].
22nd Aug '16 4:46:13 AM PF
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* Cited as one of the reasons why UsefulNotes/FormulaOne killed off the United States Grand Prix at Watkins Glen International after 1980. The "fans" who attended in the later years tended to be rowdy and drunken, with a particular enthusiasm for setting things ablaze in the infield section known as "The Bog", located inside the track section called "The Boot" (turns 6-9).[[note]]the largest item they managed was a Greyhound bus in 1974[[/note]] This activity basically made it untenable for Watkins Glen and [=F1=] to fix the primary problem with the track, which was the safety issues that killed several drivers in the late '70's.
* [[UsefulNotes/AmericanFootball Seattle Seahawks]] punter John Ryan, despite not being all that famous on account of being, well, a [[ButtMonkey punter]], was once considered one of the more entertaining professional athletes to follow on social media. However, in the wake of the Miami nightclub shooting in 2016, he was harassed by a number of homophobic twitter users who chose to defend the shooter. Ryan was so disgusted by this that he withdrew from social media completely

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* Cited as one of the reasons why UsefulNotes/FormulaOne killed off the United States Grand Prix at Watkins Glen International after 1980. The "fans" who attended in the later years tended to be rowdy and drunken, with a particular enthusiasm for setting things ablaze in the infield section known as "The Bog", located inside the track section called "The Boot" (turns 6-9).[[note]]the largest item they managed was a Greyhound bus in 1974[[/note]] This activity basically made it untenable for Watkins Glen and [=F1=] to fix the primary problem with the track, which was the safety issues that killed several drivers in the late '70's.
'70s.
* [[UsefulNotes/AmericanFootball Seattle Seahawks]] punter John Ryan, despite not being all that famous on account of being, well, a [[ButtMonkey punter]], was once considered one of the more entertaining professional athletes to follow on social media. However, in the wake of the Miami Orlando nightclub shooting in 2016, he was harassed by a number of homophobic twitter Twitter users who chose to defend the shooter. Ryan was so disgusted by this that he withdrew from social media completelycompletely.
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