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22nd May '18 5:33:00 AM PF
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* Shotaro Tokunou, the creator of ''Manga/NewGame'', [[https://twitter.com/tokutaro/status/996347512297480193 states]] that he will no longer respond to fan letters because some fans have resold fancy paper boards that he had specially drawn and sent after receiving letters. Those paper boards were being raffled around at online auctions.

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* Shotaro Tokunou, the creator of ''Manga/NewGame'', [[https://twitter.com/tokutaro/status/996347512297480193 states]] has stated]] that he will no longer respond to fan letters because some fans have resold fancy paper boards that he had specially drawn and sent after receiving letters. Those paper boards were being raffled around at online auctions.
22nd May '18 5:29:59 AM PF
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* Creator/TressMacNeille once had to cancel several convention appearances because of a creepy stalker who was obsessed with Babs Bunny, her character on WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures; the man sent her several disturbing letters that gave the impression that he planned to rape her. This was later referenced in an actual episode where said stalker was indirectly caricatured as "the world's most terrifying creature", [[StrawFan an overweight, pathetic, obsessive, mumbling loser]] who talked about various flaws in the visual presentation and wondered aloud when Fifi would get her own show. Tom Ruegger, writer and co-creator of ''Tiny Toons'', stated in an interview that the incident was one of the reasons why the team lost interest in the series and moved on to ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}''.

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* Creator/TressMacNeille once had to cancel several convention appearances because of a creepy stalker who was obsessed with Babs Bunny, her the character she voices on WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures; ''WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures''; the man sent her several disturbing letters that gave the impression that he planned to rape her. This was later referenced in an actual episode where said stalker was indirectly caricatured as "the world's most terrifying creature", [[StrawFan an overweight, pathetic, obsessive, mumbling loser]] who talked about various flaws in the visual presentation and wondered aloud when Fifi would get her own show. Tom Ruegger, writer and co-creator of ''Tiny Toons'', stated in an interview that the incident was one of the reasons why the team lost interest in the series and moved on to ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}''.
21st May '18 7:30:54 PM MoonlightBomber
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* Following the disruption of a ''Anime/HyperdimensionNeptuniaTheAnimation'' screening by a psycho with a knife attacking Creator/RieTanaka, Chiyomaru Shikura, the president of 5bp., issued this statement:

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* Following the disruption of a ''Anime/HyperdimensionNeptuniaTheAnimation'' screening by a psycho with a knife attacking Creator/RieTanaka, Chiyomaru Shikura, the president of 5bp.5pb., issued this statement:


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* Shotaro Tokunou, the creator of ''Manga/NewGame'', [[https://twitter.com/tokutaro/status/996347512297480193 states]] that he will no longer respond to fan letters because some fans have resold fancy paper boards that he had specially drawn and sent after receiving letters. Those paper boards were being raffled around at online auctions.
19th May '18 7:17:11 PM mrluntishysterical
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* Creator/TressMacNeille once had to cancel several convention appearances because of a creepy stalker who was obsessed with [[WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures Fifi LeFume]]; the man sent her several disturbing letters that gave the impression that he planned to rape her. This was later referenced in an actual episode where said stalker was indirectly caricatured as "the world's most terrifying creature", [[StrawFan an overweight, pathetic, obsessive, mumbling loser]] who talked about various flaws in the visual presentation and wondered aloud when Fifi would get her own show. Tom Ruegger, writer and co-creator of ''Tiny Toons'', stated in an interview that the incident was one of the reasons why the team lost interest in the series and moved on to ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}''.

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* Creator/TressMacNeille once had to cancel several convention appearances because of a creepy stalker who was obsessed with [[WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures Fifi LeFume]]; Babs Bunny, her character on WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures; the man sent her several disturbing letters that gave the impression that he planned to rape her. This was later referenced in an actual episode where said stalker was indirectly caricatured as "the world's most terrifying creature", [[StrawFan an overweight, pathetic, obsessive, mumbling loser]] who talked about various flaws in the visual presentation and wondered aloud when Fifi would get her own show. Tom Ruegger, writer and co-creator of ''Tiny Toons'', stated in an interview that the incident was one of the reasons why the team lost interest in the series and moved on to ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}''.
16th May '18 5:31:49 AM PF
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Related to WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings. Common scenarios that can lead to this includes {{Troll}}ing, {{Flame War}}s, UnpleasableFanbase, InternetBackdraft, ShipToShipCombat, DisproportionateRetribution, FanDumb, and HateDumb. BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor is often invoked. Making matters worse, this can sometimes result in an InternetCounterattack and ComplainingAboutComplaining. Very often a case of NiceJobBreakingItHero on the part of the fanbase. In some cases, this tends to induce ArtistDisillusionment, ending in a TakeThat [[TakeThatAudience from the author to the fanbase]] within the work, sometimes in the presence of a StrawFan. If it proceeds beyond ''that'' it can ultimately end in the author [[OrphanedSeries simply quitting the whole work and in extreme cases retiring from writing altogether]].

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Related to WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings. Common scenarios that can lead to this includes {{Troll}}ing, {{Flame War}}s, UnpleasableFanbase, InternetBackdraft, ShipToShipCombat, DisproportionateRetribution, FanDumb, and HateDumb. BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor is often invoked. Making matters worse, this can sometimes result in an InternetCounterattack and ComplainingAboutComplaining. Very often a case of NiceJobBreakingItHero on the part of the fanbase. In some cases, this tends to induce ArtistDisillusionment, ending in a TakeThat {{take that}} [[TakeThatAudience from the author to the fanbase]] within the work, sometimes in the presence of a StrawFan. If it proceeds beyond ''that'' it can ultimately end in the author [[OrphanedSeries simply quitting the whole work and in extreme cases retiring from writing altogether]].
16th May '18 5:29:29 AM PF
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* ShipToShipCombat, along with ExecutiveMeddling in several areas, is what convinced ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog'' comic writer Ian Flynn to completely and permanently end any ideas of Sonic and Sally being a couple when the comic was rebooted following Ken Penders's court case with Archie. Flynn just couldn't take the shipper comments anymore. Penders becoming the anti-Christ in the fandom's eyes, which led to them throwing multiple insults his way, also didn't go over well with Flynn since he felt it made everyone look bad, especially himself and Archie Comics; he banned any mention of the man on threats of being kicked off Flynn's forum if fans abuse it. This also killed a thread on his board talking about the ''Lara-Su Chronicles'' after fans went into a panic over a number of tweets over the man leading them to think he was trying to outright kill the ''Sonic'' comic. [[Creator/KenPenders Penders' page on TV Tropes]] is locked because of this.

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* ShipToShipCombat, along with ExecutiveMeddling in several areas, is what convinced ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog'' comic writer Ian Flynn to completely and permanently end any ideas of Sonic and Sally being a couple when the comic was rebooted following Ken Penders's Penders' court case with Archie.Archie Comics. Flynn just couldn't take the shipper comments anymore. Penders becoming the anti-Christ in the fandom's eyes, which led to them throwing multiple insults his way, also didn't go over well with Flynn since he felt it made everyone look bad, especially himself and Archie Comics; he Archie; Flynn banned any mention of the man Penders on threats of being kicked off Flynn's his forum if fans abuse it. This also killed a thread on his board talking about the ''Lara-Su Chronicles'' after fans went into a panic over a number of tweets over the man leading them to think he was trying to outright kill the ''Sonic'' comic. [[Creator/KenPenders Penders' page on TV Tropes]] is locked because of this.



** In 2012, a number of fans took to harassing [=BioWare=] writer Jennifer Hepler, screaming that she was "the cancer that was killing [=BioWare=]" and blaming her for the [[GayOption homosexual content]] in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''. This was based in part on an interview she'd given ''six years before'' where she expressed a desire for an option to skip combat in favor of story. A flame war eventually broke out on Twitter and Hepler ended up deleting her account after someone ''sent death threats directed at her children''. She denies that her leaving [=BioWare=] in 2013 was the direct result of this harassment, despite some initial reports stating so, but it's not hard to imagine it had something to do with it.

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** In 2012, a number of fans took to harassing [=BioWare=] writer Jennifer Hepler, screaming that she was "the cancer that was killing [=BioWare=]" and blaming her for the [[GayOption homosexual content]] in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''. This was based in part on an interview she'd given ''six years before'' earlier'' where she expressed a desire for an option to skip combat in favor of story. A flame war eventually broke out on Twitter and Hepler ended up deleting her account after someone ''sent death threats directed at her children''. She denies that her leaving [=BioWare=] in 2013 was the direct result of this harassment, despite some initial reports stating so, but it's not hard to imagine it had something to do with it.



** Because MMORPG players tend to complain about being stuck playing a support, tank, or healer, FFXIV has no dedicated support role, and tanks and healers function essentially like damage-dealers aside from their secondary abilities--especially given that the healing requirements are considered shockingly low compared to many other [=MMOs=], and that [[RedMage some DDs can even heal.]] Unfortunately, because the game is also balanced to account for tank and healer [=DPS=], this has resulted in the same elitism and parse-obsession associated with [=DDs=] in other [=MMOs=] spreading to those roles--often to the detriment of the party as a whole. There are tanks who will flat-out refuse to use their [[ForceField cooldowns]] during tankbusters just to try to squeeze a couple more [=DPS=] out--and then blame the [[ButtMonkey healer]] for the resultant insta-kill! And if you think you can escape parser hell by playing a healer, think again--most of the time, healing simply isn't needed, so you'll be expected to nuke, because while healing requirements are low, ''damage'' requirements are rather steep. You'll ''have'' to parse to be sure you're dealing enough damage--it's the only metric that can tell you whether you're pulling your weight or not--but parsing is against the rules, so you'll be banned if you're found out.

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** Because MMORPG players tend to complain about being stuck playing a support, tank, or healer, FFXIV ''FFXIV'' has no dedicated support role, and tanks and healers function essentially like damage-dealers aside from their secondary abilities--especially given that the healing requirements are considered shockingly low compared to many other [=MMOs=], and that [[RedMage some DDs can even heal.]] Unfortunately, because the game is also balanced to account for tank and healer [=DPS=], this has resulted in the same elitism and parse-obsession associated with [=DDs=] in other [=MMOs=] spreading to those roles--often to the detriment of the party as a whole. There are tanks who will flat-out refuse to use their [[ForceField cooldowns]] during tankbusters just to try to squeeze a couple more [=DPS=] out--and then blame the [[ButtMonkey healer]] for the resultant insta-kill! And if you think you can escape parser hell by playing a healer, think again--most of the time, healing simply isn't needed, so you'll be expected to nuke, because while healing requirements are low, ''damage'' requirements are rather steep. You'll ''have'' to parse to be sure you're dealing enough damage--it's the only metric that can tell you whether you're pulling your weight or not--but parsing is against the rules, so you'll be banned if you're found out.



* On October 31, 2013, Nintendo disabled the online features of the [=3DS=]'s ''VideoGame/{{Swapnote}}'' app (including ceasing official communications done through that service) because they found out several users -- including minors -- were using it to exchange offensive material. Most disturbingly, at least one pedophile had used it to track down children in Japan.
* The incident was also responsible for a software update for ''[[UsefulNotes/FlipnoteStudio Flipnote Studio 3D]]'' released the following day that removed the ''Flipnote Hatena: Friends'' online service (which allowed users to share Flipnotes with people on their 3DS's Friends list). As a further consequence, this also resulted in the Western release for the application -which already missed its intended August 2013 release date- to be indefinitely delayed, with Nintendo going completely quiet about discussion of the Western release afterwards. Most people assumed it had been quietly cancelled in the wake of the controversy...until an NA version exclusive to Club Nintendo members was announced and released in ''early 2015'' (with an European version slated for release later in the year). And even then, that version saw release [[NoExportForYou without the remaining online service]] ''Flipnote Gallery: World'' (a general online community for sharing and viewing Flipnotes), with Flipnote animation sharing restricted to local wireless connections and importation of previously-uploaded animations from the [=DSi=] version.

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* On October 31, 2013, Nintendo disabled the online features of the [=3DS=]'s ''VideoGame/{{Swapnote}}'' app (including ceasing official communications done through that service) because they found out several users -- including minors -- were using it to exchange offensive material. Most disturbingly, at least one pedophile had used it to track down children in Japan.
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Japan. The incident was also responsible for a software update for ''[[UsefulNotes/FlipnoteStudio Flipnote Studio 3D]]'' released the following day that removed the ''Flipnote Hatena: Friends'' online service (which allowed users to share Flipnotes with people on their 3DS's Friends list). list).\\
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As a further consequence, this also resulted in the Western release for the application -which application, which already missed its intended August 2013 release date- date, to be indefinitely delayed, with Nintendo going completely quiet about discussion of the Western release afterwards. Most people assumed it had been quietly cancelled in the wake of the controversy...controversy until an NA North American version exclusive to Club Nintendo members was announced and released in ''early 2015'' (with 2015'', with an European version slated for release later in the year). year. And even then, that version saw release [[NoExportForYou without the remaining online service]] ''Flipnote Gallery: World'' (a World'', a general online community for sharing and viewing Flipnotes), Flipnotes, with Flipnote animation sharing restricted to local wireless connections and importation of previously-uploaded animations from the [=DSi=] version.



** Masahiro Sakurai, director of the series, has stated he [[http://gengame.net/2012/12/masahiro-sakurai-says-not-to-expect-any-smash-bros-news-anytime-soon/ will be tweeting less]]. His reasoning is that whenever he talks about a video game he enjoys, overspeculative fans take it as a cue for the game's representative being in the next ''Super Smash Bros.'' Also, because of people uploading the Subspace Emissary cutscenes from ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' onto the Internet, [[http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=208299 there are no story cutscenes]] in ''Super Smash Bros.'' for Wii U and 3DS.
** Speaking of, ''For Wii U and 3DS'' had a development blog on the Miiverse in which Masahiro Sakurai discussed upcoming features of the game and gave a very intimate, inclusive look at the development process. As thanks, the fans responded with a torrent of unending negativity (such as issuing death threats when Lucario was announced as a returning fighter because of the [[TheScapegoat existing stigma it got for allegedly replacing fan-favorite Mewtwo]] in ''Brawl''), souring the whole experience. The last straw was when a criminal stole an ESRB demo of the game and leaked its entire contents online weeks before the game's release. It seems Sakurai learned a hard lesson from his previous openness; a new installation for the Nintendo Switch was announced in 2018, mere months before its release, as Sakurai was forced to work on it for two years in absolute secrecy. The franchise that was once Nintendo's biggest hype generator now must be made behind closed doors if any of the games' surprises are to remain intact.

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** Masahiro Sakurai, director of the series, has stated that he [[http://gengame.net/2012/12/masahiro-sakurai-says-not-to-expect-any-smash-bros-news-anytime-soon/ will would be tweeting less]]. His reasoning is that whenever he talks about a video game he enjoys, overspeculative fans take it as a cue for the game's representative being in the next ''Super Smash Bros.'' Also, because of people uploading ''
** Because fans uploaded
the Subspace Emissary cutscenes from ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' ''Brawl'' onto the Internet, [[http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=208299 there are no story cutscenes]] in ''Super Smash Bros.'' for ''For Wii U and 3DS.
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** Speaking of, ''For Wii U and 3DS'' had a development blog on the Miiverse in which Masahiro Sakurai discussed upcoming features of the game and gave a very intimate, inclusive look at the development process. As thanks, the fans responded with a torrent of unending negativity (such negativity, which soured the whole experience.[[note]]Such as issuing death threats when Lucario was announced as a returning fighter because of the [[TheScapegoat existing stigma it got for allegedly replacing fan-favorite fan favorite Mewtwo]] in ''Brawl''), souring the whole experience. ''Brawl''.[[/note]] The last straw was when a criminal stole an ESRB demo of the game and leaked its entire contents online weeks before the game's release. It seems Sakurai learned a hard lesson from his previous openness; a new installation for the Nintendo Switch was announced in 2018, mere months before its release, as Sakurai was forced to work on it for two years in absolute secrecy. The franchise that was once Nintendo's biggest hype generator now must be made behind closed doors if any of the games' surprises are to remain intact.
16th May '18 2:53:45 AM Morbidorable
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** Because MMORPG players tend to complain about being stuck playing a support, tank, or healer, FFXIV=] has no dedicated support role, and tanks and healers function essentially like damage-dealers aside from their secondary abilities--especially given that the healing requirements are considered shockingly low compared to many other [=MMOs=], and that [[RedMage some DDs can even heal.]] Unfortunately, because the game is also balanced to account for tank and healer [=DPS=], this has resulted in the same elitism and parse-obsession associated with [=DDs=] in other [=MMOs=] spreading to those roles--often to the detriment of the party as a whole. There are tanks who will flat-out refuse to use their [[ForceField cooldowns]] during tankbusters just to try to squeeze a couple more [=DPS=] out--and then blame the [[ButtMonkey healer]] for the resultant insta-kill! And if you think you can escape parser hell by playing a healer, think again--most of the time, healing simply isn't needed, so you'll be expected to nuke, because while healing requirements are low, ''damage'' requirements are rather steep. You'll ''have'' to parse to be sure you're dealing enough damage--it's the only metric that can tell you whether you're pulling your weight or not--but parsing is against the rules, so you'll be banned if you're found out.

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** Because MMORPG players tend to complain about being stuck playing a support, tank, or healer, FFXIV=] FFXIV has no dedicated support role, and tanks and healers function essentially like damage-dealers aside from their secondary abilities--especially given that the healing requirements are considered shockingly low compared to many other [=MMOs=], and that [[RedMage some DDs can even heal.]] Unfortunately, because the game is also balanced to account for tank and healer [=DPS=], this has resulted in the same elitism and parse-obsession associated with [=DDs=] in other [=MMOs=] spreading to those roles--often to the detriment of the party as a whole. There are tanks who will flat-out refuse to use their [[ForceField cooldowns]] during tankbusters just to try to squeeze a couple more [=DPS=] out--and then blame the [[ButtMonkey healer]] for the resultant insta-kill! And if you think you can escape parser hell by playing a healer, think again--most of the time, healing simply isn't needed, so you'll be expected to nuke, because while healing requirements are low, ''damage'' requirements are rather steep. You'll ''have'' to parse to be sure you're dealing enough damage--it's the only metric that can tell you whether you're pulling your weight or not--but parsing is against the rules, so you'll be banned if you're found out.
16th May '18 2:53:23 AM Morbidorable
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** Because MMORPG players tend to complain about being stuck playing a support, tank, or healer, FFXIV has no dedicated support role, and tanks and healers function essentially like damage-dealers aside from their secondary abilities--especially given that the healing requirements are considered shockingly low compared to many other MMOs, and that [[RedMage some DDs can even heal.]] Unfortunately, because the game is also balanced to account for tank and healer DPS, this has resulted in the same elitism and parse-obsession associated with DDs in other MMOs spreading to those roles--often to the detriment of the party as a whole. There are tanks who will flat-out [[YouHadOneJob refuse to use their cooldowns during tankbusters]] just to try to squeeze a couple more DPS out--and then blame the [[ButtMonkey healer]] for the resultant OHKO! And if you think you can escape parser hell by playing a healer, think again--most of the time, healing simply isn't needed, so you'll be expected to nuke, because while healing requirements are low, ''damage'' requirements are rather steep. You'll ''have'' to parse to be sure you're dealing enough damage--it's the only metric that can tell you whether you're pulling your weight or not--[[UpToEleven but parsing is against the rules, so you'll be banned if you're found out.]]

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** Because MMORPG players tend to complain about being stuck playing a support, tank, or healer, FFXIV FFXIV=] has no dedicated support role, and tanks and healers function essentially like damage-dealers aside from their secondary abilities--especially given that the healing requirements are considered shockingly low compared to many other MMOs, [=MMOs=], and that [[RedMage some DDs can even heal.]] Unfortunately, because the game is also balanced to account for tank and healer DPS, [=DPS=], this has resulted in the same elitism and parse-obsession associated with DDs [=DDs=] in other MMOs [=MMOs=] spreading to those roles--often to the detriment of the party as a whole. There are tanks who will flat-out [[YouHadOneJob refuse to use their cooldowns [[ForceField cooldowns]] during tankbusters]] tankbusters just to try to squeeze a couple more DPS [=DPS=] out--and then blame the [[ButtMonkey healer]] for the resultant OHKO! insta-kill! And if you think you can escape parser hell by playing a healer, think again--most of the time, healing simply isn't needed, so you'll be expected to nuke, because while healing requirements are low, ''damage'' requirements are rather steep. You'll ''have'' to parse to be sure you're dealing enough damage--it's the only metric that can tell you whether you're pulling your weight or not--[[UpToEleven but not--but parsing is against the rules, so you'll be banned if you're found out.]]
16th May '18 2:44:11 AM Morbidorable
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** Because MMORPG players tend to complain about being stuck playing a support, tank, or healer, FFXIV has no dedicated support role, and tanks and healers function essentially like damage-dealers aside from their secondary abilities--especially given that the healing requirements are considered shockingly low compared to many other MMOs, and that [[RedMage some DDs can even heal.]] Unfortunately, because the game is also balanced to account for tank and healer DPS, this has resulted in the same elitism and parse-obsession associated with DDs in other MMOs spreading to those roles--often to the detriment of the party as a whole. There are tanks who will flat-out [[YouHadOneJob refuse to use their cooldowns during tankbusters]] just to try to squeeze a couple more DPS out--and then blame the [[ButtMonkey healer]] for the resultant OHKO! And if you think you can escape parser hell by playing a healer, think again--most of the time, healing simply isn't needed, so you'll be expected to nuke, because while healing requirements are low, ''damage'' requirements are rather steep. You'll ''have'' to parse to be sure you're dealing enough damage--it's the only metric that can tell you whether you're pulling your weight or not--[[UpToEleven but parsing is against the rules, so you'll be banned if you're found out.]]
15th May '18 2:40:05 PM PF
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Related to WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings. Common scenarios that can lead to this includes UnpleasableFanbase, InternetBackdraft, DisproportionateRetribution, FanDumb, and HateDumb. BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor is often invoked. Making matters worse, this can sometimes result in an InternetCounterattack and ComplainingAboutComplaining. Very often a case of NiceJobBreakingItHero on the part of the fanbase. In some cases, this tends to induce ArtistDisillusionment, ending in a TakeThat [[TakeThatAudience from the author to the fanbase]] within the work, sometimes in the presence of a StrawFan. If it proceeds beyond ''that'' it can ultimately end in the author [[OrphanedSeries simply quitting the whole work and in extreme cases retiring from writing altogether]].

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Related to WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings. Common scenarios that can lead to this includes {{Troll}}ing, {{Flame War}}s, UnpleasableFanbase, InternetBackdraft, ShipToShipCombat, DisproportionateRetribution, FanDumb, and HateDumb. BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor is often invoked. Making matters worse, this can sometimes result in an InternetCounterattack and ComplainingAboutComplaining. Very often a case of NiceJobBreakingItHero on the part of the fanbase. In some cases, this tends to induce ArtistDisillusionment, ending in a TakeThat [[TakeThatAudience from the author to the fanbase]] within the work, sometimes in the presence of a StrawFan. If it proceeds beyond ''that'' it can ultimately end in the author [[OrphanedSeries simply quitting the whole work and in extreme cases retiring from writing altogether]].



-->'''Nariyama:''' I can no longer bear it when I think that my privacy will continue to be exposed to the world due to someone else's malice.

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-->'''Nariyama:''' -->'''Narimiya:''' I can no longer bear it when I think that my privacy will continue to be exposed to the world due to someone else's malice.



* RuleThirtyFour (the site) learned this the hard way, after Dreamhost (their old host) forced them to pull Toddlercon. The following April, after they had completed the move to DUTCH servers, they put up one of those stock FBI warnings (which had anyone paid attention to where they moved would have been bloody obviously fake) and claimed LoliconAndShotacon was about to go, which was further helped along by E-Hentai ''really'' having to do this at coincidentally the same time due to their own hosts, and also the guilty verdicts of the Whorley and Handley cases in real life. The response when the veil was lifted? A hacker taking over the site and replacing everything with pictures of tigers (both tanks and animals), then his penis, and finally 20ish straight days of [=DDoS=], which obliterated a server and is partly responsible for why the site runs like crap today. [[SeriousBusiness Porn on the internet. Srsbsns.]] Interestingly, the second April Fools' joke went ''completely unnoticed'' due to the furor over the first, with a total of three comments over the following week about it. The second 2010 April Fools' joke? Aliasing Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles to [[MemeticMutation Big_Green_Talking_Turtles]], Baxter's infamous line in the first season. Was lampshaded later when the site ran a vote for what missing features from the move were to return. This being the internet, the joke option won, and so everything was turned into Atari Jaguars instead, continuing the big cat theme the troll had started.[[note]]In reality, their code was on that dead server, and their coder was chased off during the first April so there was no one to repair them anyway.[[/note]]

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* RuleThirtyFour (the site) learned this the hard way, after Dreamhost (their old host) forced them to pull Toddlercon. toddlercon. The following April, after they had completed the move to DUTCH Dutch servers, they put up one of those stock FBI warnings (which had anyone paid attention to where they moved would have been bloody obviously fake) and claimed LoliconAndShotacon was about to go, which was further helped along by E-Hentai ''really'' having to do this at coincidentally the same time due to their own hosts, and also the guilty verdicts of the Whorley and Handley cases in real life. The response when the veil was lifted? A hacker taking over the site and replacing everything with pictures of tigers (both tanks and animals), then his penis, and finally 20ish straight days of [=DDoS=], which obliterated a server and is partly responsible for why the site runs like crap today. [[SeriousBusiness Porn on the internet. Srsbsns.]] Interestingly, the second April Fools' joke went ''completely unnoticed'' due to the furor over the first, with a total of three comments over the following week about it. The second 2010 April Fools' joke? Aliasing Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles to [[MemeticMutation Big_Green_Talking_Turtles]], Baxter's infamous line in the first season. Was lampshaded later when the site ran a vote for what missing features from the move were to return. This being the internet, the joke option won, and so everything was turned into Atari Jaguars instead, continuing the big cat theme the troll had started.[[note]]In reality, their code was on that dead server, and their coder was chased off during the first April so there was no one to repair them anyway.[[/note]]



* Twitch streamer Bwana had enough of the BrainSlug emoticon [[http://www.twitch.tv/bwana/c/2151897 being synonymous with racist comments]][[labelnote:*]]i.e. BrainSlug = [=BigNig=][[/labelnote]]. Not only did he make Twitch change the emoticon to an actual brain slug, he made the old emoticon for subscribers only.

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* Twitch streamer Bwana had enough of the BrainSlug [=BrainSlug=] emoticon [[http://www.twitch.tv/bwana/c/2151897 being synonymous with racist comments]][[labelnote:*]]i.comments]].[[labelnote:*]]i.e. BrainSlug [=BrainSlug=] = [=BigNig=][[/labelnote]]. [=BigNig=].[[/labelnote]] Not only did he make Twitch change the emoticon to an actual brain slug, he made the old emoticon for subscribers only.



* Bald Dumbo Rat, head of producing ''AudioPlay/DoctorWhoovesAndAssistant'', has a side-blog called ''Lovestruck Derpy''. However, when he uploaded voiced-over dubs of the pictures on Website/YouTube, they became one of his channel's most popular videos. Unfortunately, since delays are long between updates of the dub, rabid fans attacked him and even gave his boyfriend death threats when they responded calmly. He is on the verge of taking down the blog, and posted a [[DearNegativeReader response video]] saying that, surprise surprise, these insults aren't helping at all.

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* Bald Dumbo Rat, head of producing ''AudioPlay/DoctorWhoovesAndAssistant'', has a side-blog called ''Lovestruck Derpy''. However, when he uploaded voiced-over dubs of the pictures on Website/YouTube, they became one of his channel's most popular videos. Unfortunately, since delays are long between updates of the dub, rabid fans attacked him and even gave his boyfriend death threats when they responded calmly. He is on the verge of taking down the blog, and posted a [[DearNegativeReader response video]] saying that, surprise surprise, these insults aren't helping at all.all:



* In extreme cases, there's the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub, which is when a page is so misused, controversial, and/or becomes such a magnet for personal attacks, racial slurs, and the like that the page is not only locked, but also deleted, never to be used again. Originally, the only pages that were cut and locked were Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub members such as IAmNotMakingThisUp and SoYeah, however, since tropers were continuously attempting to revive redundant and unnecessary pages placed on the CutList, for a time, anything that was cut also became auto-locked and could only be brought back with proper authorization, and that was ''if'' the page was not also part of the [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub Red Link Club]]. This is, however, no longer the case, and pages that were cut listed but are not part of the Club can now be brought back by anyone, although asking for permission is still recommended.

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* In extreme cases, there's the Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub, which is when a page is so misused, controversial, and/or becomes such a magnet for personal attacks, racial slurs, and the like that the page is not only locked, but also deleted, never to be used again. Originally, the only pages that were cut and locked were Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub Permanent Red Link Club members such as IAmNotMakingThisUp and SoYeah, however, since tropers were continuously attempting to revive redundant and unnecessary pages placed on the CutList, for a time, anything that was cut also became auto-locked and could only be brought back with proper authorization, and that was ''if'' the page was not also part of the [[Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub Red Link Club]]. This is, however, no longer the case, and pages that were cut listed but are not part of the Club can now be brought back by anyone, although asking for permission is still recommended.
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