Creative jobs (acting, writing, making music or films, etc) are often seen by their fans as some kind of utopian ideal; you're creating art, using your imagination, and are apparently freed from the nine-to-five wage slave grind. Writers, actors, voice actors and artists seem to have an edge over the rest of us; they're doing something they enjoy, something really creative, something that makes people happy. How could you not
enjoy a job like that?
Oh, it's possible. Fact is, creative jobs remain just that: jobs. And while they can be fun and interesting, like any job they can also be draining; factor in deadlines, editing, Executive Meddling
, rejection letters, failed auditions, tedious PR drives and, of course, the dreaded Fan Dumb
, and it's apparent that there are things that can make what may have been a dream job seem more like a nightmare. Whilst many artists cope admirably with all of this, others can suffer and become quite disillusioned.
Sometimes this can result in an artist disillusionment farewell, where the character publicly ends his career
- often with a heavy dose of Take That, Audience!
Sometimes, however, it's only temporary. The artist might simply be having a bad day. Sometimes they might just be a bit shaken by their circumstances and surroundings; whilst some thrive in the limelight, others, particularly more behind-the-scenes figures such as writers and directors, may find being faced with crowds of fans and interviewers unsettling and nerve-wracking, which can make their mood sharper than it otherwise would be. In either case, meet them when they're in a better mood or in more comfortable circumstances, they're fine.
True artist disillusionment is when the artist just isn't having any fun at all any more and is making no secret of that fact. They've given up being a Slave to PR
, and as such are rude and dismissive in public appearances and interviews, snap the head off fans who manage to fray their one remaining nerve, and generally come across as a grouchy, impatient jackass. Their work may even begin to suffer. They just don't care anymore. And this lack of caring tends to express itself through insults towards their audience and fans.
Over-familiarity can play a part; some artists have been doing their job for decades, which is easily long enough for boredom to kick in. They might be sick of all the executive meddling they have to face, or have achieved Protection from Editors
to such a degree that anyone daring to raise a word of criticism is going to rub them up the wrong way. And sometimes the artist is just naturally a bit grouchy, intolerant and impatient, or is a Small Name, Big Ego
type. All of which is going to make an unpleasant experience for the poor sap who happens to get on the wrong side of their temper.
It's not all one way, however; unfortunately, the artist's fans can play a not-insignificant role in their idol's disillusionment. There's a reason some of them are called "fan dumb", after all. Too many obnoxious or arrogant fans can turn the artist off their fanbase entirely
, fairly or not. Where the artist sees their creativity as just a job, the fan may see it as a holy way of life
, which can create tension if the artist isn't treating the property as seriously as the fan would like. The fan may believe that their devotion to the product means that they have part or even full
ownership over it, and if they have no hesitation upon bluntly expressing their views about it to the artist, this is going to grate even if the artist doesn't have protection from editors
; the artist is the one who has to make the thing, after all. A broken
or Unpleasable Fanbase
can also have this effect, since no matter what the artist does they're still going to have to listen to someone whine about it.
In either case, Artist Disillusionment
and Fan Disillusionment
may have a circular relationship; the fan might suffer disillusionment after their idol was cruel or dismissive towards them, but the artist might have only been that way because they'd been disillusioned from having to deal with the many obnoxious examples of fan dumb before them and had run out of patience.
As a coping strategy, some artists adopt Alter Ego Acting
to counter possible artist disillusionment. Others simply don't bother with public appearances and disappear from public scrutiny
. May lead to Creator Breakdown
or Creator Backlash
. It may also result from the artist discovering that Celebrity Is Overrated
. When artists take away something from their fans, often in response to fan dumb, that is Why Fandom Can't Have Nice Things
Note that Artist Disillusionment is against fans. Creator Backlash is against works.
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Anime and Manga
- In the American manga Dramacon, famous fictional artist Lida Zeff has shades of this. When talking to a hopeful with dreams of becoming a manga artist, Lida lists all the difficulties of being an artist: finances, inconsistent job flow, criticism, self-doubt, and the difficulties of the business end of things. Nonetheless, she still seems to find enjoyment in her job even with the disillusionment
- In Bakuman。, Kazuya Hiramaru, an overworked businessman, picked up a copy of Weekly Shonen Jump on the way to work, decided he could draw manga for a living, and quit his job that day. He's now so overworked that he often does not sleep, drinks himself silly, and the only thing keeping him drawing is the fact that his editor knows a lot of pretty girls and promises to introduce him to them if he does well.
- In the graphic novels about Johanna And Helena, Helena becomes a successful stand up comedian, but really hates it. The worst part is that her inane babble is considered deep and true art and all that kind of bullshit. The emperor is indeed naked, but in this case the emperor and the child is the same person. Eventually she publicly denounces it all, pretty much claiming that the word must be a Crapsack World after all since people obviously actually like a show such as hers.
- In one issue of Riskhospitalet, a news anchorman is saying all kinds of nasty things during a show broadcast in real time. As his finish his speech with mooning the camera, his staff receives a phone call from the hospital - explaining that they mixed up the lab results and that the anchorman is in fact not dying.
- Spider Jerusalem, of Transmetropolitan, has something of a hate/loathe/disgust/contempt/pity complex regarding his fans. They read his journalism (which is good enough to be art, by any means) and find his exploits entertaining, and occasionally they listen to him if he shouts loud enough. On the other hand, they don't care enough, they don't get the message, and generally let him down. The volume New Scum ends with him chucking grenades off a roof because, despite his column, the public finally followed his advice and booted out the Beast, but elected a president Jerusalem found even more loathsome.
- Dwayne McDuffie dealt with this in his various works, critically opining about editorial interference in his stories and complaining about fans who criticized his favoritism of the John Stewart character over the other Green Lanterns.
- Joe Casey, who famously wrote a story complaining about how his fans prefer his mainstream friendly super-hero stuff that was continuity heavy and took back an apology he offered them when he realized that said apology's confession about him having a huge drug problem (and producing some of his worst work as a writer while on drugs), pretty much painted him in a bad light. His disillusionment (and fan disillusionment with him) culminated in his getting Superman/Batman cancelled when he totally refused to go along with editorial request that he write a follow-up story for his Superman crossover "Our Worlds at War" (as DC was retooling Superman/Batman to focus on the aftermath of their '00s crossovers) and got fired from the title mid-arc when he sent them instead a generic Superman/Batman versus alien story instead. Casey was promptly blacklisted from DC as a result, not that he cares it seems.
- My Little Pony Micro Series has an in-universe example with Jade Singer, who felt she couldn't top her novel "The Canter in the Rye". She's still writing, but she lacks the courage to continue, at least until Twilight's visit.
- In Groundhog Day, the protagonist really despises his fanbase, but normally keeps it off camera. As he's stuck in a "Groundhog Day" Loop, he sometimes starts to bitch publicly as a way of venting his frustration. Luckily for him, the timeloop didn't end on any of those particular days.
- The film Galaxy Quest is all about this phenomenon and about the disillusionment and sense of lost opportunity that can result when an actor has to spend a large chunk of his/her life trapped by the popularity of a single role. The Shakespearean-trained Alexander Dane (Alan Rickman) seemed to suffer the most out of all the title show's cast members, since he had given up a respectable stage career to play a Rubber Forehead Alien. Of course, the experience is revitalized for all of them and the illusion restored by the end of the movie.
- Billy Mack from Love Actually is a former big-name rock star who's fallen on hard times, and he just has stopped giving a damn and completely snaps when his newest desperate attempt to climb back to the top is an album full of song covers with slightly altered lyrics to make them Christmas-themed. At every public appearance he gleefully lambastes the album while still asking people to buy it, just so the number one Christmas album won't be a cookie cutter boy band. It works.
- Mike Connor in The Philadelphia Story is a poet whose poetry book netted him something in the range of $700, and so puts on a front as Jerk with a Heart of Gold, working as a tabloid reporter to pay the bills. Upper class Tracy Lord, whom he's spying on, offers to sponsor his artistic endeavors only to have him shoot it down as old-fashioned and unwanted charity.
- The documentary Teenage Paparazzo discusses this concept. A main point of the film is that celebrities in Los Angeles are just doing a job like everyone else, but face constant harassment from fans and paparazzi - so much so that they've become disillusioned and insular from the majority of society. Several examples of celebrities (including Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan) who've gone down a self-destructive path due to the pressures of fame and a demanding legion of photographers trying to get their photograph are shown to prove this point.
- The most well-known example in music history: Kurt Cobain. So much that it, among other things (depression, drug addiction, physical ailments), Drove Him to Suicide.
- The "fame sucks" song has a long-standing place in rock and roll. One example is "Across the Sea" by Weezer, which details Rivers Cuomo's dissatisfaction about the music business while singing about a fan letter from Japan.
- Barenaked Ladies go into this in "Testing 1, 2, 3."
- They cover it again in "Running Out of Ink" which is all about a songwriter in the midst of a break-down.
- Counting Crows practically made their entire second album, Recovering The Satellites, about this, although "Have You Seen Me Lately" and "Monkey" particularly stand out. Ironic, perhaps, when you think about how their first hit, "Mr. Jones," is about how much they want to become famous. Across a Wire, a live album which the group put out at about the same time as Recovering, contained an acoustic, much more somber version of Mr. Jones, about how wanting to be a star is "about as fucked up as you can be".
- The Beatles famously dealt with this - they stopped touring in 1966 due to several factors, most of which can be traced to disillusionment with touring (due to issues from protests about the famous "Bigger Than Jesus" comment to being unable to hear themselves play at venues).
- George Harrison in particular suffered a serious case of this when it came to the Beatles, having publicly acknowledged on numerous occasions that the allure had worn well off for him by about 1965 or thereabouts. The fact that John Lennon and Paul McCartney were for the most part rather dismissive of his own songwriting efforts and tended to treat him as the baby of the group because he was the youngest didn't help matters much.
- Pink Floyd suffered from two major bouts of this. The first affected Syd Barrett, who found himself increasingly uneasy with their growing exposure, audience sizes and TV appearances, and didn't want the group to become any more famous. None of the others agreed with this, their rising fame was impossible to halt, and Syd sought greater and greater refuge in drugs, leading to his downward spiral into paranoia and insanity. (This was later commemorated in the album Wish You Were Here.) Roger Waters also suffered from the vast audiences and changed audience composition brought by their mainstream success following The Dark Side of the Moon. While their old psychedelic fans tended to be quiet during the numbers and appreciative at the end of them, the new mainstream fans, though very appreciative, were also very loud and rowdy, and usually spent the whole set calling for "Money". This culminated the infamous incident during the Animals tour where Roger spat on a particularly loud and rowdy fan (and the fan loved it). This lead to the jokey suggestion that they needed a wall between him and the audience, which led to The Wall.
- ABBA wrote two songs about this, "I'm a Marionette" and the live-only "Get on the Carousel". Both songs are from an unfinished musical called "The Girl with the Golden Hair," a story more than loosely based on Agnetha's life, and how she went from being an enthusiastic young singer excited to begin her career ("Thank You for the Music" and "I Wonder") to being an exploited media-puppet trapped in a cycle of terror and despair ("I'm a Marionette" and "Get on the Carousel"). Some lines of "Super Trouper" also address the disillusionment and isolation experienced by everyone in the band.
- Varg Vikernes has a lot to say about modern Black Metal fandom and the new BM bands too, nothing nice.
- As the '70s progressed, 10cc became increasingly disillusioned with everything about international touring. The 1978 album Bloody Tourists is most certainly not intended as a Take That against holidaymakers, and the Hipgnosis sleeve image, of a man on a beach with a map plastered over his face, was commissioned to "Sum up in one image how we feel on tour."
- When the Carpenters first began performing, Karen Carpenter, who had been drumming since school, took charge of the drum kit but also sang. As her amazing voice made its mark on the growing audiences, she came under increasing pressure from managers and promoters to stop hiding behind her drums, glam up and become the lead singer and frontwoman - none of which she wanted to do, and all of which made her uneasy. When her hand was eventually forced, the resulting stress, and the various stage fright coping methods she tried, all contributed to her mental and physical health issues and, ultimately, her untimely death.
- Satirist Tom Lehrer grew to hate touring so much he retired to academia after releasing only a handful of records. Ongoing political events only further decreased his desire to perform again, although he did rack up a little Sesame Street Cred.
- Narrowly averted by David Bowie. By the end of The Eighties, he was deeply unhappy with his work. His Newbie Boom after the deliberately radio-friendly Let's Dance led him to bigger audiences and more income than he'd ever known before, but also to two albums that just followed on from that style, whereas before he had followed his muse. Critics picked on him, longtime fans labeled him a sellout, and trying to please newer fans brought him little lasting satisfaction. After the Glass Spider Tour, he considered retiring from music to focus on painting. Guitarist Reeves Gabrels convinced him that he just needed to break away from pleasing others and rediscover his muse. While Tin Machine, the Hard Rock group Bowie and Gabrels formed with Hunt and Tony Sales in the process, is widely regarded as a Dork Age by fans and critics, it did rekindle his love of performing and paved the way for an artistic comeback in The Nineties as a solo artist. And the whole concept of his breakthrough album ''The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars" was about the angst of being a rock performer.
- Several Reel Big Fish songs, in a "story" told over several albums about a band's rise and fall through the limelight that paralleled their own experiences at the time (for example, a song about selling out called, appropriately, Sell Out ending up their big hit). One Hit Wonderful was about both this and Creator Backlash - "they don't love you, they just love that one song" - followed by Don't Start a Band about how much the music business sucks even with success.
- Keane went through a phase of major infighting, during which one member developed drug problems. They came close to breaking up, but managed to recover...and the fact that their arguing helped create the popularly Darker and Edgier album Under The Iron Sea didn't hurt.
- George Michael emerged from 1980s British Boy Band Wham in 1986, releasing his debut solo album Faith a year later. Though critically acclaimed and one of the top albums in 1987-89, making Michael a megastar as his own artist, he still felt his image as a sex symbol (a holdover from his Wham! days, but slightly more geared to an adult image) belied the artistry and craft he put into Faith, and he longed to be taken as a serious, even topical artist. Moreover, he was discovering his homosexuality in private, which contradicted the macho, girl-crazy image he projected since the Wham! days, his parents and gay lover were both dying and he was having troubles with his label, Sony. Soon, more serious-minded, less danceable and pop-friendly albums like Listen Without Prejudice, Vol. 1 and Older emerged. Michael also appeared less and less in his own music videos, one of which, "Freedom '90", symbolically showed an image of his Faith-era leather jacket, blue jeans and archtop acoustic guitar burning in a closet. His arrest for "lewd conduct"(i.e. exposing himself to an undercover police officer) in a public toilet in Beverly Hills in 1998 led to his eventual self-outing. This, and his consistent arrests for drunk driving and/or drug possession stunted his career, and he has yet to reach the heights of his Faith days.
- When The KLF found commercial success with their stadium house tracks, Cauty and Drummond quickly grew sick of dealing with the pop music industry. In particular, they got pissed at the number of washed-up former stars who contacted them in hopes of a collaboration (since The KLF's track with Tammy Wynette had revived her flagging career). Their final, troll-tastic performance was a clear attempt to burn as many bridges as possible on their way out.
- The very first track on Marilyn Manson's fifth full-length album The Golden Age of the Grotesque is titled "This is the New Shit" and pretty explicitly chastises fans for just being attracted to the sexual and violent content of his lyrics while not caring about any meaning and themes behind them. That this was the album that followed up Manson's artistically ambitious "Tryptich" (the trilogy of rock opera albums including Antichrist Superstar, Mechanical Animals, and Holy Wood (In The Shadow Of The Valley Of Death)) was probably not a coincidence.
- A big plot element in Megatokyo is actor/fan relations. Among the main characters is former idol (and Broken Bird) Erika, who found that her idealistic dream of being a voice actress was destroyed by fan obsessiveness, the negative impact her job had on her personal life and her own disillusionment - that resulted in nearly killing her best friend. Her experience at the height of her fame has only left her aloof and cynical (until Largo comes along...)
- A Writer on Board arc of Living with Insanity deals with David's disillusionment after years of attempts not resulting in much success. This strip's note shows it wasn't just for him.
- Jeph Jacques generally likes his fans... But he would really appreciate it if they quit that whole "Shipping" business. Though he admits that it's more amusing than genuinely angering, and he has a bit of fun reacting to it — not to mention trolling the shippers.
- Part of the reason why Ian J. quit RPG World. He hated fans who kept harping on him about the comic when it didn't please them of his decisions and, along with both studying animation, a breakup with his girlfriend and dissatisfaction with the story. Just up and quit the comic altogether..when it was in its final arc.
- Gigi Digi (formerly Hiimdaisy) was not particularly pleased to find out that there was a Kickstarter launched for an unauthorized Fan Sequel of one of her works. She's also vented that she's been tired of her past comics for a long time and particularly annoyed by the memes that have spawned from them.
- Occurs in Commentary! The Musical, halfway between parody and Take That, Us: Joss Whedon's song, Heart (Broken) is a meditation on postmodernism and fan interaction so depressing it makes everyone else flee the room. Also has a killer refrain.
- Many of the more well known people in the YouTube Poop community suffer from this, and have outright given up on a poop "series" or pooping in general just to spite the fans who ruined the fun for them.
- The reason why Walrusguy retired from pooping is because he feared that was what he was becoming best known for, rather than flash animation where his real passion was.
- Tucker Max began suffering from this during his last few years as a "fratire" writer, having run into a combination of having his target audience outgrow him, and finding his current audience childish and stupid.
- Glee spoofers SIMGM are quick to come down on fans asking them when the next video will be out, to the degree that when a fan asks they are blocked by their Tumblr, Twitter and YouTube channel.
- Some artists have refused to do artwork within the Furry Fandom because fans have created a lot of drama around artwork. This has notably led to artists that clearly do furry artwork denying being a furry and insisting they're either cartoonists or fantasy artists to avoid the association with the fandom.
- Lewis Brindley, in response to constant badgering about Shadow of Israphel, has said that he's really tired of it, and that he actually feels demotivated to do it. This, on top of a lot of the old creation team no longer being available and the Yogscast in general being more busy, means that the show's hiatus is unlikely to end anytime soon.
- Hannah Rutherford has fairly openly bashed more vocal parts of the Yogscast fandom that reside mostly on Tumblr. This is partly due to some disturbing fanworks about her real life relationship, which she quite understandably is not amused by. The other peeve of hers are various blogs that accuse her of being problematic for reasons that are not always valid, most notably with her playthrough of Outlast.
- The band Dethklok from Metalocalypse qualify. While they love their music, they dislike working on new albums, hate their fans with a passion (as best seen in the song "Fansong" for the members of their fanclub who showed up for fan appreciation day). They also dislike other people who work in the music industry with them (Nathan sighing at another "douchebag industry party" at the launch of their new album).
- On The Simpsons, Bart imagines life as a rock star performing a hit song called "My Fans are Stupid Pigs." The audience loves it.
- He also dealt with artist disillusionment when hired on to the Krusty the Clown show as a one-line wonder, complaining about the hollowness of his catchphrase.
- Craig Charles (Lister in Red Dwarf) has expressed his exasperation at spending "half (his) adult life at Red Dwarf conventions" on the DVD documentaries of the series. Given that Red Dwarf has been on the go since 1988...that's a lot of conventions.
- Star Trek
- Robert Beltran, the actor who played Commander Chakotay on Star Trek: Voyager. If he ever had a nice thing to say about the show (tripe), its creators (hacks), its fans (losers), or his co-stars (prima donnas), he's kept it under his hat. Midway through the show's run, Beltran started giving interviews to Trek fansites critiquing the rabid fanbase, the ridiculous Technobabble, and the contrived writing. There have been stories of fans actually breaking into tears at conventions after listening to his rants, and he's never shown any indication of mellowing out over the years (an online promo shot in 2008 for a play Beltran was starring in at a Los Angeles theatre had him passive-aggressively mocking his fans and telling them to support him by buying tickets). Reportedly, Beltran was angling to be let go from the show, but Paramount exacted revenge by keeping Chakotay alive for all seven seasons - when he demanded an enormous raise in a deliberate bid to get fired, they simply handed over the cash.
- The shooting of VOY was extremely taxing and frustrating for nearly everyone involved. Beltran was probably the least tactful of the participants, but by no means is he alone in those opinions. Probably for this reason, the DVD box sets include very little behind-the-scenes footage or interviews with the cast, such as Tim Russ (who doesn't even bother to hide his fatigue). Mostly, they are puff pieces featuring (some) of the writers and producers.
- For many years, the cast of Star Trek: The Original Series showed signs of this, as they were angered over the constant pressure from fans and executives who only saw them as the characters they played on the show. This came to the forefront in the 1980s for several of them, including William Shatner's notable anti-Trek rant on an episode of Saturday Night Live, and Leonard Nimoy's famous tell-all book "I Am Not Spock" (where he categorically stated that there was much more to his life than a character he played for three seasons and a handful of movies). Notably, the 80's book Trek Memories went into detail about the crew's hatred of their fame and fanbase, but eventually, they all came around and acknowledged their characters again. These days, of course, the TOS crew consider themselves custodians of Gene's legacy and are very territorial about it.
- A notable aversion was James "Scotty" Doohan, who absolutely loved the convention circuit and went out of his way to accommodate fans. On numerous occasions he has told a story about a fan who came to a convention, only to tell him that she intended to commit suicide afterwards. Doohan pulled a Scheherazade and told her that he expected to see her at the next convention, and the next, and the next, and it apparently worked. It worked so well that he had struck up a correspondence with her and acted as her mentor. After a while he stopped receiving letters from her and was concerned that she had fallen to depression and suicide. After the span of a year or so, he received another letter from her apologizing for the silence — she had returned to college and was very busy studying... to become an engineer.
- Gene Roddenberry himself reportedly did not want to be involved with Star Trek: The Next Generation because of all the stress involved with the original series, most notably playing referee between The Shat and Nimoy, each vying to be the star.
- Be careful about mentioning Star Trek: The Next Generation to Patrick Stewart though. He's apparently heard enough about it that he now takes a rather dim view of fans gushing about his Picard. He's defended the show itself on several occasions though, so his disillusionment is purely with answering the same questions over and over.
- The "Hollywood Diva" archetype is a strange example. They're expected to be nasty to the press and condescending to their fans - in fact, most of them retain their following due to their negative attitude, not in spite of it. After all, when did E! ever do a special on "The Top 100 Genuinely Nice Actresses in Hollywood"? Actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea...
- Noted science fiction author Harlan Ellison has developed something of a notorious reputation for being somewhat... crabby, due to a combination of a willingness to speak his mind and an unwillingness to tolerate fools gladly, (and a willingness of fans and other writers to prank him for this) which has led to some interesting confrontations both with fans and professionals alike. Ellison insists, however, that this element of his personality has been exaggerated, and that he is not nearly as mean-spirited and unpleasant as the stories about him would have you believe. On the other hand, he's called people he didn't like, "Niggers with attitude." Though maybe he's just a NWA fan.
- When Michael Krahulik and Jerry Holkins were guests of honor at an event with Ellison, Ellison mocked Krahulik (Gabe) in front of the entire crowd merely for not having gone to college. Holkins (Tycho) summed it up like this:
Let's be clear here: We're talking about a person that a couple of total assholes
- Mike got him back with this line.
"While I've got you here, I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed the Star Wars
stuff you wrote."
- Neil Gaiman described him as "A cranky, old Jew who is in love with his cranky-old-Jew-ness", in the documentary Dreams with Sharp Teeth.
- It's debatable as to whether or not he still loves the work he's done over his decades-long career, but Frank Oz, the Muppeteer from Jim Henson's show and long-time comedy partner, never does any public appearances except for a few every several years, insists that fans see him as just another guy who happened to get lucky instead of a dazzling super-star, and publicly bashed Disney's revival after reading the script and turned down the offer to work on it. When he is in a public event, he is very gracious to fans, thankfully.
- In the 19th century, Russian playwright Nikolai Gogol wrote a often cited letter about how he was disappointed by the way the actors played the characters in Ревизоръ (The Government Inspector, aka The Inspector General), completely misinterpreting his intentions and failing to give them proper depth. He was generally quite prone to such breakdowns, though.
- Bonus Stage creator Matt Wilson ended the cartoon one "season" earlier than he originally intended, citing at first his desire to make money from his animations, then changing his mind and saying that he just got sick of making video-game references and the cartoon's trademark self-deprecatory humor. After pitching some ideas for a new series of his, Wilson seems to have cut off connection with the internet, and what he's up to now is anyone's guess (mostly criticizing webcomics on The Awful Forums).
- Arthur Conan Doyle eventually became sick and tired of writing Sherlock Holmes stories, to the point where he eventually killed the character off in The Adventure of the Final Problem. Fans were horrified and outraged, but Conan Doyle was initially unmoved. He had a change of heart, however, when magazine editors began offering him absurd amounts of money and when his mother asked him to restart writing about him. It seems that Conan Doyle simply needed some time to recharge his creative batteries, as post-revival adventures like The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans, The Adventure of the Dancing Men and The Adventure of the Devil's Foot are all excellent stories that rival or even exceed some of the early works.
- In a prologue to the final set of stories, Conan Doyle mentioned how adult men who came up to him and said that his Holmes stories were some of their favorite stories as children didn't get the response from him that they'd anticipated. On the other hand, he also noted that writing Holmes stories hadn't prevented him from flexing his literary muscle in other areas. Even if the general public only associated him with his Holmes stories, The Lost World and Professor Challenger would both develop their own followings, and his non-fiction historical writing won him great praise in high society and even led him to be knighted by Queen Victoria. In an example that takes this trope Up to Eleven, Conan Doyle very nearly turned down the knighthood, suspecting that it was for Sherlock Holmes and not for his recent book on the Boer War.
- Tracey Torme, the creator of Sliders, had to deal with a whole ton of Executive Meddling, and according to the fan site Earth Prime.com, he hated what the show turned into. Go to the pages about the double episode "Exodus", and read the part about what he thought of it, you'll see.
- Dom Fera is rather sick of The Lazer Collection overshadowing the rest of his YouTube videos as well as fans of the videos nagging him to hurry up on the next one.
- Hideaki Anno was reputed to be so sick and tired of the misaimed fandom of Neon Genesis Evangelion as well as the death threats his fans sent him after the Gainax Ending of the series that he created a film that more or less replaced the last two episodes as the true ending. Without giving anything away, it was the exact opposite of what many fans of the series wanted and, in some cases, expected. The clincher? The truth is this was the original ending before executive meddling, and with the exception of one or two scenes the work was not intended as a take that against the fans. He did show the death threats sent to him on screen after the movie was over, and a certain scene of fan disservice is interpreted to target some of the fans. Never has a bigger "Fuck you." been given to an overly rabid fanbase.
- Bob Budiansky, the first writer of the Marvel Transformers comic book who did a lot to develop the franchise, is a variant. He doesn't actually dislike Transformers fans, but he is rather bemused by the fact that they obsess over something that to him was just another creative job.
- The cast of the second season of the '80s War of the Worlds series were subject to this. When the second season premiered, viewers were reportedly incensed that the entire framework of the series had changed (including the deaths of main characters and the changing of several plot-related elements) that they decided to make their displeasure known with hateful letters written to the cast and crew. Their biggest targets were actor Denis Forest and actress Catherine Disher (who played the leaders of the Morthrai on the show). Disher was so angered by the derogatory and negative letters she received (both during and after the show) that, to this day, she won't talk about it at fan conventions.
- This was a major factor why Dave Chappelle pulled the plug on Chappelle's Show, as he'd grown sick of all the people who would walk up to him saying lines like "I'm Rick James, bitch!" (once, while he was with his wife and children!), also believing they missed the point of his show's sketches. In one live concert, Dave chewed his fans out:
Chappelle: You know why my show is good? Because the network officials say you're not smart enough to get what I'm doing, and every day I fight for you. I tell them how smart you are. Turns out I was wrong. You people are stupid.
- The late John Hughes once told someone that he left the Hollywood scene out of fear that it would have a negative impact on his kids. Plus, he felt that the film industry overworked his friend John Candy to the point that it killed him.
- Follow Jhonen Vasquez on Twitter for a while and it becomes abundantly clear that his fans really irritate him.
- Of course, he has been known in public to be very gracious and good-humored and friendly, so this may more be just a case of the fans who pester him to bring back Invader Zim, which he's grown to slightly hate due to it being bastardized by Nickelodeon and having nearly all control of it ripped away from him.
- Vasquez addresses this rumor in this video. He only really hates his fan dumb and even then, he's only even expressed displeasure for a few fan dumb behaviors.
- David Simon got himself in some hot water when he voiced his displeasure with new fans of The Wire who seemed to only latch onto the show because "Omar is so cool" rather than the deep, intricate storylines about very real social problems. But he did quickly say in another interview that his statement was perhaps too harsh, and he certainly doesn't want to tell people who enjoy his work that they can only do so in the way he wants.
- It's been obvious on the The Order of the Stick forums that Rich Burlew has become thoroughly sick of people questioning whether something that happened is in the comic is within the rules of Dungeons & Dragons. It's a bit hard to blame him for this as 1) this has been happening for years; 2) it's always been made clear that the story has priority over the rules; 3) many of the times he's accused of breaking the rules the actual rule is heavily debated and how it works in the comic is a legitimate interpretation of the written rule; or 4) the accusation is just wrong.
Rich Burlew: The only thing worse than the usual irrelevant rules pedantry is incorrect irrelevant rules pedantry.
- Just stick around on Hideki Kamiya's Twitter account and you're bound to see his irritation in a good fraction of his tweets. Asking him questions he's been asked repeatedly will often be met with a link to a tweet asking followers to check and search his tweet log, and pestering him with fan dumb comments (e.g. complaining about Bayonetta 2 being on the Wii U or questioning his English skills, never mind that English is not his native language) will be met with a "fuck off" at best and a derogatory comment in Japanese followed by a block at worst. Furthermore, all of his replies are public, so being a nuisance to him is a one way trip to being humiliated by other followers. He makes it no secret that some of his fans piss him off, and whenever a major news site reports on him or his games, which is when his account takes a big jump in replies from followers, you can expect tweets along the lines of "Idiots rushing in..."