Locked Pages: Lock, UnLock and Edit requests

I would like to request a lock for Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity and its associated pages until the game is officially released on November 20th, as the game was leaked before its official date and people have been posting content from said leaks — which goes against TV Tropes' editing policies — on the pages, particularly Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity.

I've messaged the tropers responsible for adding the leaked content, one of whom did not appear to be aware of TV Tropes' policy against it.

Edited by Arawn999 on Nov 18th 2020 at 6:58:29 AM

Apologies, but may I raise a concern with the addition of that link?

There's already a notice on the page saying the following:

Please bring all potential examples to the Nightmare Fuel clean-up thread for approval.

It has a direct link to the NF clean-up thread.

The reason that message was added was because the clean-up thread discovered that tropers were circumventing the clean-up by coming straight to this thread instead of engaging with the clean-up effort, and the entries being added were still problem entries that then needed further cleaning up. The mod visiting the thread at the time (Willbyr, I think, but please accept my apologies if I've remembered that incorrectly) advised that RWBY entries have to go through the clean-up thread before they're allowed to come to this thread.

Given that we're finding that tropers still won't engage with the clean-up thread and continue proposing problem entries, I think this is still a concern worth considering. It also means that the RWBY page now has two contradictory messages on it for edit submissions.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Nov 18th 2020 at 3:16:01 PM

I'm with . We can't direct people here as a first resort. They have to run their examples through the cleanup thread first, because the page is locked due to problematic edits and edit warring over the cleanup effort. Directing them here first doesn't solve the issue at hand.

What's our take on uploading videos onto trope pages that were locked? I had an idea for a video example for Double Standard Rape: Female on Male (the video does not depict any actual rape), and I know I'm able to add the video, but I didn't know if I should since the edits have to be run through here due to the potential for controversy and content policy violations.

Edited by mightymewtron on Nov 18th 2020 at 10:45:13 AM

Do we have to lock the Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity page? It's only one day left before the official release or whatever. People won't cause much damage by that point and you can always revert them.

As for locked videos, I think they can be uploaded. It's usually a good idea to consult a cleanup thread if the page has one though, like with Complete Monster. Besides, a moderator will have to check if the video is acceptable before approving it anyway.

Edited by Piterpicher on Nov 18th 2020 at 6:56:02 PM

Alright, here we are...

@25379: The deleted wick tool apparently no longer exists. Another fix for this issue and hopefully the ghost wick issue is in the works.

@25396 and @25397: These are in.

@25398: That page is moderator locked, if you want an edit you can request it here.

@25400: Thanks, but it seems artificially creating a ghost wick on Sandbox.Test worked better. But thanks anyway.

@25402: Per @25405, I don't think it's necessary anymore.

@25402, @25403: Imma ask my colleagues about this. My concern is basically, cleanup threads pre-approving examples for tropes is not their normal purpose and while Complete Monster has operated on this principle for years I am a little hesitant about letting it spread too widely. We've had complaints about cleanup threads arrogating the right to define the trope and being jerkish about it.

@25404, @25405: Our video policy isn't very well developed, but I think it's allowed so as long as the video is SFW.

I wanted to be sure if edits were allowed even through this topic for A Serbian Film, given its controversial content. That's I wanted to ask:

• A the beginning of the page indicate the Serbian title, so:
  "A Serbian Film (Српски филм / Srpski film) is a 2010 arthouse...".
• Secondly, a poster. I was thinking of this one◊ which should be acceptable.
• Last, I think the page needs a warning like F.A.T.A.L. has one. That's how I would write it:
  Because of its extreme graphic violence and distrubing content, we're not providing trope examples. Be warned if you intend looking for A Serbian Film outside of TV Tropes.

Edited by gc10 on Nov 19th 2020 at 12:03:44 PM

There's been talk of partially restoring the trope list on FATAL. Here's the sandbox, but god knows when that will happen. Ditto for A Serbian Film.

@Septimus Heap: You know what else operates on that principle? Magnificent Bastard since 2018. The Writing Pitfall Index since earlier this year. It's also likely going to happen with Getting Crap Past the Radar. The point of it is avoiding the type of shoehorning and complaining that gets us mocked on Tumblr.

Edited by ccorb on Nov 19th 2020 at 7:51:27 AM

With A Serbian Film, that has at least 2 Title Tropes: Indefinite Article Title, a.k.a Opposite Trope to Definite Article Title I should TLP...

And Work Info Title...

And then maybe Verbing Nouny or something because "Serbian" and "Film"...

We just don't want to trope the content.

Castle:

Edited by Malady on Nov 19th 2020 at 5:15:19 AM

There's no verb in "A Serbian Film". "Serbian" is an adjective.

Regarding Nightmare Fuel, RWBY is the only page we're locking and needing edits approved for. It's not the standard. The entire reason behind it being locked is the fact that the editors weren't using it correctly and kept edit-warring over us. We're not trying to have any control over the trope, we're just trying to keep the page in a quality state. Thus far every edit people have attempted to add has had some glaring issue, such as being just a dry scene-summary rather than a proper Nightmare Fuel example.

If you're not going to direct people to the NF cleanup thread, what's the point of having it be locked at all? Either way people will just try and get around the cleanup effort, either by adding examples directly or by going here as the first-resort, so what's even the point if us asking them to come to the cleanup thread is apparently a bad thing?

We're not looking to be Complete Monster. We're just looking to keep this one specific page bad-edit and edit-war free.

Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 19th 2020 at 3:21:35 PM

Considering Age of Calamity has officially been released in Australia, I suppose that negates the need for an edit lock.

Following the de-wicking effort on Frickin' Laser Beams, please:

Remove the ghost-wicks for Fricking Laserbeams in the below three pages:

• The 99 Rooms
• Recap.Adventure Time S 5 E 11 Bad Little Boy Fionna And Cake II
• Sandbox.Rule Of Perception

Update the following entries in edit-locked pages:

(1)Change Potholed Frickin' Laser Beams to Energy Weapon

• ConspiracyTheories.H To N
• Talk.Who Would Win Archive 2
• Talk.Who Would Win Archive Late 2010
• Talk.Who Would Win Archive Pre 2011

(2) Change in-text entry for Frickin' Laser Beams to Frickin' Laser Beams ("Frickin' Laser Beams" potholed by Energy Weapon)

• Archive.Made Of Win Late 2009
• Headscratchers.Pokemon Archive Late 2010
• Talk.Who Would Win Archive Pre 2011

Archives don't get edited.

@25407: Mostly done, but I'll ask about that image.

@25413: Done save for the archives.

Re: NightmareFuel.RWBY. Upon reconsideration I've done the change.

Thanks very much for that. We'll make sure that the NF clean-up thread doesn't abuse that, and that the RWBY page remains an exception to the rule.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Nov 20th 2020 at 8:07:51 PM

On Anime & Manga: A to F, the link(s) to Gunnm needs to be changed to Battle Angel Alita.

Did that and added the image to A Serbian Film.

Part of me thinks a work as vile as that one does not deserve an image

Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 20th 2020 at 9:22:44 AM

I disagree; as long as a SFW pic can be found for a page, it can be added.

I've given the pic the standard PNG upgrade and reformatted the IP tag to put it in line with other such pages.

Pages to update!

• Magnificent Bastard to Magnificent Bastard Quotes
• Fullmetal Alchemist to Magnificent Bastard Fullmetal Alchemist
• Marvel Cinematic Universe to Magnificent Bastard Marvel Cinematic Universe
• Sonic the Hedgehog to Magnificent Bastard Sonic The Hedgehog
• Anime & Manga to Magnificent Bastard Anime And Manga
• Film to Magnificent Bastard Film
• Literature Magnificent Bastard Literature
• Music to Magnificent Bastard Music
• Video Games to Magnificent Bastard Video Games
• Western Animation to Magnificent Bastard Western Animation
• Please lock The Venture Brothers

Cheers!

Magnificent Bastard edit & lock requests are done.

Main.Needs Wiki Magic Love was moved to Administrivia.Needs Wiki Magic Love per TRS, and the wick on Main.Administrivia needs to be updated.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 21st 2020 at 7:33:06 AM

Done along the discussion page and Needs an Index.

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Nov 21st 2020 at 2:47:48 PM

Under Aerith Gainsborough in Final Fantasy VII: Playable Characters

• Water Is Womanly: Aerith is a compassionate healer who wears a pink dress and is associated with rain and water in Advent Children, even creating a healing pool for those inflicted with geostigma. She is also heavily associated with the lifestream, which flows like water. Aerith was also laid to rest in a lake in front of the Forgotten City. Nojima even in stated in the Advent Children -Reunion Files- that "Aerith has sort of a 'watery' image about her, so [the staff] used water to convey her presence".