Per Ask The Tropers, this thread will be used to reduce the number of old, poorly written drafts on the Trope Launch Pad. We don't want to discuss on the drafts themselves because that will bump them and mix them with active proposals.
Sandbox for the project: Trope Launch Pad Discard Project
Sandbox for discarded drafts but viable ideas: Trope Idea Salvage Yard
The first sandbox page above contains drafts proposed in the thread that are still pending and drafts that we've decided to leave alone, either with no action or a bump.
The second sandbox page is for awful drafts but viable ideas. According to moderators, badly written but interesting/tropeworthy drafts should remain on the TLP. Rather than allow low-effort drafts to clog TLP, though, the salvage yard was opened to keep just the ideas behind them, in one place.
On this thread, we will mention which drafts we think are unworkable, add enough bombs, and discard (nuke) them. Discarding requires at least 5 bombs. Among the features of "unworkable" drafts:
- There have been no edits for a very long time, or at all
- The draft is low-effort, containing atrocious spelling and grammar and/or little to no examples, e.g. NEVER saw THAT coming (!), Nut-Chuks
- The draft was seemingly created so the sponsor could complain
- The topic is People Sit on Chairs, Too Rare to Trope, a search query created by mistake, etc. and therefore not tropeworthy
- The topic is already sufficiently covered by one or more tropes or is a duplicate of a better-written TLP draft
- The draft is problematic in other ways, such being closely tied to a page that has been historically problematic, e.g. Fetish Fuel, Complete Monster
- There's no discussion currently occurring in the comments to improve the proposal
If we decide to discard a draft after discussion via this thread, whoever does so must provide the discard reason in the comment section of the draft, for transparency's sake. Those looking at the discards section won't think it was nuked for no reason.
Also, check out the sister project, Trope Adoption Drive, where good drafts put Up for Grabs or abandoned can be grabbed, given a bit more improvement, and launched.
Edited by Tabs on Mar 24th 2022 at 12:02:43 PM
So, I added the fifth bomb to Slidin' Gun, can I just discharge it?
Edited by gc10 on Aug 21st 2019 at 4:27:05 PM
Go ahead. I'd appreciate it if you also leave one last comment on the draft with a link back to this thread so that people can find the reason we decided to discard it. It's not a mandatory custom, but I like to arrange it because War Jay 77 has vented frustrations about lack of transparency in who tossed hats and bombs.
If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.Another one: Clothing of Implied Steel. 3 Bombs and it has been pointed out it's already covered by other tropes. Should we bomb it?
Edited by gc10 on Aug 21st 2019 at 9:28:13 PM
I already did bomb it, one of those three bombs is mine.
- I found Reveal By Reflex and Reflex Check. I think Reflex Check was assimilated into Reveal By Reflex, so we can discard Reflex Check. But if their topic can be divided up among already-finished tropes like Hey, Catch! and Cover-Blowing Superpower, then we don't need either and can discard both.
- Vehicles Bane was accused of being already covered by Captain Crash. What about Watch the Paint Job; The Precious, Precious Car; and Chronically Crashed Car? Do they cover what Captain Crash doesn't?
Edited by Miss_Desperado on Aug 21st 2019 at 8:55:46 AM
If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.- Costumes Go Together (potential Sub-Trope of Coordinated Clothes) can be put in the "Mothball" folder, right?
- All Fish No Bones is The Same, but More Specific to Stripped to the Bone.
- One-Sided Conversation: Yes, We DO Have This One, it's Placebo Eureka Moment.
I think the fish bones one describes a cartoon trope, but it's so stubby and written like it's for Trope Finder that I won't really miss it.
Some people pointed out All Fish No Bones is The Same, but More Specific to Stripped to the Bone. Since it has already 5 bombs (I'm adding a sixth), I'm discarding it.
- Manic Pixie Ill Girl: Why was this bombed and nuked? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only reason I see is bias against Troperithmetic tropes. If this was a Frankenstein-esque stitching of tropes together, I'd be more inclined to not contest the bombing, but I think the OP was not clumsy in the act of blending tropes together. I think the OP did a decent job finding a narrative purpose to make it more than the sum total of Manic Pixie Dream Girl + Ill Girl + Your Days Are Numbered + Like You Were Dying.
- You Think, You're Dead: Is there anything to this that isn't already covered by Don't Think, Feel and No Time to Think?
- Semper Nostra: Yes, We DO Have This One, it's From Camouflage to Criminal
Edited by Miss_Desperado on Sep 12th 2019 at 9:03:14 AM
If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.Manic Pixie Ill Girl — I personally think this is covered by other existing tropes. However, if you think the draft has some unique spin on them, feel free to restore it. Do you want to grab it and sponsor it? It has seven bombs, but drafts have been known to recover from worse.
I would, but I'm juggling too many drafts already. If I do adopt it, I'm gonna be debating on whether or not the snowclone title is worth the hassle of replacing it with something that gets the meaning across without being snowcloney.
- Hiding Secret Keeper: I found Sent Into Hiding, which reads like a Ridiculously Similar Trope, but I think I see the difference between that trope and this draft. This draft is when the hiding person goes into hiding on their own initiative, before the more forceful outside circumstances of Sent Into Hiding leave the refugee with no choice. Does that sound about right? Or is there something else that differentiates the two? Or is this a case of Yes, We DO Have This One after all?
Edited by Miss_Desperado on Sep 14th 2019 at 10:23:22 AM
If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.Scythe Weilding Jester: 14 bombs, one added by me. Should I procede discarding it?
Racial misdirect, poor description and, according to some comments, not trope-worthy. May I discard this too?
Edited by gc10 on Sep 16th 2019 at 12:45:11 PM
Discarded the first.
I think it could be a trope if it's much better written. Or maybe it's just Hollywood Genetics + The Reveal.
Both the examples written in Racial Misdirect wouldn't even fit Hollywood Genetics (and should have been covered or notified beforehand, considering they're important plot twists): in Spider-Man: Homecoming the actress portraying Liz Toomes (Laura Harrier) is actually biracial, the plot twist that her father is actually Adrian Toomes AKA Vulture is "scientifically" plausible. I made a research and the same goes for Detective Pikachu too since the actor portraying the main charater (Justice Smith) is biracial.
You Think, You're Dead seems to be already covered by No Time to Think, I'm bombing it.
I'm adding the fifth bomb and discarding One-Sided Conversation.
I'm bumping Clothing of Implied Steel as it is already covered by Impossibly Cool Clothes, I added the fourth bomb and it needs only a fifth.
Unfortunate Associations was posted here already as it is clearly redundant. EDIT: it got the fifth bomb and I discarded it.
Fight the Old Hero. This one is 8 years old, and it's already covered by Rogue Protagonist, only specific to a Video game. It needs a single bomb for discard.
"With This Red Herring": 3 bombs and 0 comments, seems just a very specific variant of With This Herring, either played for laugh or for drama. I'm adding the fourth bomb.
Enjoy this unrelated landscape is another old one too, apparently it's just "Scenery Porn, but blatantly useless". I'm adding the fourth bomb.
Developer's Dilemma just revolves around different situations sufficently treated in other tropes. I'm adding the fifth bomb and discarding it.
Mirror Joke is completely blank save for 5 bombs and a single comment pointing out it's already covered by Mirror Routine. Discarded.
Edited by gc10 on Sep 24th 2019 at 3:11:58 PM
- Bombed and nuked "Enjoy this unrelated landscape"
- Doesn't Like Talking About Their Past: Yes, We DO Have This One: Mysterious Past; Dark and Troubled Past; They're Called "Personal Issues" for a Reason
Edited by Miss_Desperado on Sep 17th 2019 at 10:48:59 AM
If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.Added the fifth bomb to "With This Red Herring". This is literally on TropesThatWillNeverHappen.X Meets Y, by the way.
Contains 20% less fat than the leading value brand!Nuked a few that were ready to be nuked, with reasons posted. And Miss_Desperado, I didn't know we had Suffers Newbies Poorly. You have ruined me! I wonder why it doesn't have any examples.
I bombed "Doesn't Like Talking About Their Past".
- De-fictionalized phrase. Someone pointed out it's very similar to Sein Language or Memetic Mutation, others believe it's trope-worthy, and it has zero bombs. In my opinion, it's actually to similar to the aforementioned tropes, and considering it wasn't edited in years, is it worth keeping?
- Hey! That's my car! it's a draft specifically about the stock phrase but, as the rules say, No New Stock Phrases. I'm bombing it.
- Wizards Wear Long Robes seems identical to Robe and Wizard Hat. The author the draft said it's actually a super-trope, but I personally can't see how. I bombed it.
- Instant vanishing injury seems to me sufficently covered by several other tropes mentioned in the discussion. Bombed it.
- It Was Here When I Got Here. Since I'm a guy who never watches sit-coms, I would like your opinion: is it seriously a legit trope, or it's just Too Rare to Trope?
- Darcy letter: XFllo mentioned it before as being just Dark and Troubled Past+Byronic Hero, I added a third bomb.
- Adaptation Divergence is already covered by Adaptation Deviation. I added the second bomb.
Edited by gc10 on Sep 17th 2019 at 9:55:16 PM
- Sein Language is a redirect to The Catchphrase Catches On, which is what the draft describes.
- Car getting towed is covered by Parking Problems. Car getting destroyed driving it into a building is covered by Car Meets House. There are other "belongings destroyed" tropes. No new stock phrases.
- I don't think It Was Here When I Got Here is as common as the draft writer thinks. And it's a stock phrase.
Edited by Tabs on Sep 17th 2019 at 2:08:57 AM
- AT: Abbreviation Title. Some proposed to rework Initialism Title into a broader trope, instead of making a separate trope altogether. Should we discard this?
- supporting good guy who is always wrong it's identical to The Complainer Is Always Wrong, I added the fourth bomb.
- I'm discarding Mommy, Tell Me the Story Again, Parody Sponsership Gag, Beaten by an Inanimate object, Someone has to help, Small, strange ambition, Pulling "the trigger", Oblivious to Unrequited love, A Comedy Affair, Unnecessarily slow moving dipping mechanism and Realistic yet boring routine as they're redundant drafts for already existing tropes.
- I'm adding a fifth bomb to Evil guys are white because I don't feel like it's an actual legit trope. Before discarding however, I would like to hear other opinions.
Edited by gc10 on Sep 18th 2019 at 5:49:19 PM
"Evil guys are white" sounds like chairs to me.
Contains 20% less fat than the leading value brand!Seems covered in most cases by Politically Incorrect Villain or other tropes such as Fat, Sweaty Southerner in a White Suit, Evil Aristocrats etc.
"Plucky POC heroes face off against hegemonic white villain in a symbolic battle against racism and The Man" seems tropeworthy but the draft could use a major overhaul to become that. I think it's ok to discard.
Edited by naturalironist on Sep 18th 2019 at 1:49:24 PM
"It's just a show; I should really just relax"Fine, I'm discarding Evil guys are white.
By the way, as of right now, there are 9946 drafts on the TLP.
Edited by gc10 on Sep 18th 2019 at 8:58:59 PM
That's more drafts than it had when the thread began...
Discarding Subtitle Takeover due to being redundant.
By the way, could you please help me bombing these ones?
Edited by gc10 on Sep 18th 2019 at 10:29:31 AM
One of the three bombs on Slidin' Gun is mine, because I agree that Yes, We DO Have This One.
Edited by Miss_Desperado on Aug 18th 2019 at 9:38:31 AM
If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.