Getting Crap Past the Radar cleanup

I don't see why it needs Word of God; we aren't Wikipedia. I moved the foreign swearing to TotalDrama.Tropes A To G (EDIT: someone moved it to Parental Bonus). I also don't see why Radar.Arthur was cut, as it has a rather young target audience and airs on PBS Kids. While I agree this trope has a lot of misuse, I don't want to be too strict and cut a lot of good examples, like what happened to Deader Than Disco. Moving examples to Parental Bonus is an option, so hold off on large-scale cuts.

Radar.Gravity Falls and Radar.Steven Universe point out in the description that the standards are higher since they're rated TV-PG. This seems to have been followed for the most part, but I question these examples:

• Rose Quartz is basically a child-friendly Satan Is Good, being a being of light that rebelled against an oppressive Heaven-analogue to champion freedom, self-expression and nature. She's demonized by her opponents, and in "A Single Pale Rose", it's revealed she was a former member of the court—namely, Pink Diamond—she rebelled against. (seems too speculative)
• Garnet snaps a Centipeetle in half and we briefly see its insides.
• When Peridot uses the escape pod on her hand-shaped ship, her pod is ejected out the middle finger. The ship even separates said finger from the rest while doing so, though admittedly not to the point of flipping the bird.
• Fusion continues to be suggestive of sex and sexuality, but this episode shows a darker side of it with the way Jasper attempts to convince Lapis Lazuli to fuse with her despite the other gem's obvious discomfort. It has some definite undertones of sexual harassment, making her all the more terrifying. It really doesn't help that the entire time Jasper has big Slasher Smile on her face.
  Jasper: Come on... just say yes.
• Garnet continues the abusive relationship analogy by declaring "They are really bad for each other," as Malachite drags herself to the ocean floor.
• The apps on Peridot's tablet include one that looks suspiciously like Tinder. (The Amazing World of Gumball, also on CN and rated TV-Y7, had an episode all about a dating app)
• One of the icons on Connie's desktop is Conqueror Kings II, an obvious reference to the very child-unfriendly medieval strategy game Crusader Kings II. (I added this example, but now I'm not sure it counts, since it's just a reference)

Edited by rjd1922 on Apr 8th 2019 at 7:07:59 AM

Almost every example on Radar.Arthur was just Accidental Innuendo.

Thoughts on the Ridonculous Race page?

Edited by costanton11 on Apr 8th 2019 at 12:30:09 PM

None of them count.

What about this example from WesternAnimation.Taz Mania? It may fall under a different trope.

• Getting Crap Past the Radar: One episode involved Francis disguising himself as a young female Tasmanian Devil in order to trap Taz that way. It goes about as well as expected, with Taz falling hopelessly in love. Finally, Francis has just about enough and tries to unzip the costume, but the zip is stuck. Well, that's what the audience sees. What Taz sees is his hot girlfriend trying to unzip her dress in front of him. And his reaction makes it more than clear what he's thinking when he sees this.

The Wunder Boner and Johnson on-board motors are listed on both Radar.Advertising and AccidentalInnuendo.Advertising. As the Radar page notes, if the Johnson innuendo was intentional, they probably wouldn't have included "You, your kids, and your Johnson!" What company wants their boats used by child molesters?

Nuke from the Radar page.

The Toy Story Radar was was previously cut, but's there an example for Toy Story 2 on Radar.Pixar. It looks like more a case of censors choosing to ignore it.

Zapped.

Regarding the Steven Universe examples, burn the "Fusion is sex" one (and any other examples with the same idea). Word of God has stated many, many times that fusion is written as a metaphor for relationships, not sex.

While in general it's a metaphor for relationships, at times there's clear parallels to sex, such as Stevonnie's line in "Alone Together" ("We can stop if you...No. No."). I'm pretty sure the Wunder Boner is intentional innuendo, which would toe the line if the commercial aired in prime time.

The Parental Bonus description has the line: See also Getting Crap Past the Radar, as most of the time, a parent bonus joke will reference sex or something adult (like drugs, racism, violence, or another form of media [book, movie, TV show, etc] that is more popular with adults than with children).

This gives off the impression that Getting Crap Past the Radar is just adult jokes. Should this reference be rewritten or removed entirely?

Rewrite.

'Trying to clean up the shorter Western Animation pages.

From Animalympics' page:

• During the tour of the island, a male and a female eel are shown kissing in order to generate electricity. Subtext, anyone?
• Also when Kit Mambo explains her strategy to beat Rene in the marathon while bearing a Cheshire Cat Grin, "The best way to win is to get a quick lead and break his concentration," as the camera shows her lioness assets.
• Also Dorrie Turnell's appearance in an issue of Playbird magazine.
• When Renee and Kit embrace in their shared dream, their crotches are the first to meet - and they grind them into each other.
  Dean: Hey man, they're going all the way!
• Tatyana Tushenko?!
• Four ducks at the disco pass out after drinking beer.
  • Because they drink like birds.
• René's fantasy of Kit modelled in gold in his fantasy has visible nipples.
• Rene's manager accuses Kit's manager of cheating — using catnip.

From Bratz's page:

• The Secret Date commercial seems to be shedding a positive light on prostitution. You could say it's trying to say it's okay for girls to have lots of boyfriends and be sexy, the way it's socially acceptable for guys to have a rapid stream of girlfriends and be thought of as cool. But since the doll's target demographic is generally girls under 10, it's a lot shakier in its execution...
• And the Dynamite commercial seems to be set in a night club club and includes the line "Everyone wants them, but that's not their thing."
• The song What's Going On is basically about wanting to know who's having relations with who and includes some very suggestive breathing in the middle.
• This exchange in Bratz Rock Angelz:
  Cameron: Sweet moves Cloe!
  Cloe: Thanks! I've got a lot of sweet moves...
  (Record Needle Scratch)
• The villain in "Desert Jewelz" kidnaps one of the girls because she is "pure of heart." Later he keeps referring to her as the "pure one" while giving a lewd smile. His kidnapping the girl in the first place is odd, as his accomplice is the same age and seemingly also pure... Until you realize the lewd looks he gives her as well, and the fact that she was more or less living with him at the beginning of the movie. It doesn't help that he's basically her father figure.
  • The girls get lost in the desert at one point and worry about getting kidnapped and forced to join a harem. Bonus points in that they're actually dressed in harem wear the majority of the movie.
• Most of the outfits in the franchise are pushing it, but special mention goes to Allonce's outfit in the animated series: A bra and a skirt so short something undesirable would have been seen if the characters were actually anatomically correct.

Are any of these valid?

IMO, no. They look like Parental Bonus that the censors don't care for or Accidental Innuendo.

I removed the Wunder Boner from AccidentalInnuendo.Advertising as I'm pretty sure it's intentional. The Radar page has a lot more context, anyway.

Radar.Toy Story was cut? How is the crane with female legs being a "hooker" not Getting Crap Past the Radar?

Edited by rjd1922 on Apr 13th 2019 at 8:58:50 AM

All the examples for Radar.The 39 Clues with TROPER'S VIEWS ON THE EXAMPLE in bold.

• "Amy, what's a eunuch?"

Maybe applies?

• —> Amy: I love you, Dan, you're a genius!
  Dan: (glares) Did Ian drug you?

How does being drugged mean thinking someone's a genius?

• —> "May I remind you, we are surrounded by a lot of schist."
  "Watch your language," Dan said.

Ditto Example #1.

Also, all of them are Zero Context Examples. So, should I deleted the page due to the (maybe) bad examples?

Is there any indication that the "hooker" in question was meant to bypass censorship or should have voided the G rating according to American MPAA standards in 1995?

Regarding Pixar films, what are your thoughts on A Bugs Life?:

• One of the Fly Brothers to Francis the Ladybug (before discovering that "she" is actually male): "Hey cutie! Wanna pollinate with a REAL bug?"
• "Work that ab, baby!"^* The abdomen is an insect's hindquarters.
• The poster featuring Hopper had the tagline "bugs kick grass."
• The first scene with Atta and Hopper sounds like a girl being abused by her boyfriend.
• During the credits, some Hilarious Outtakes are played. One has Dr. Flora flirting with a male ant, who turns out to be a cardboard cutout that falls over. She sheepishly says "I thought he was real," and then in a slightly sultry sounding voice says "put that thing in my car."
• "Jiminy H. Cricket!" (If you don't get it, think of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman's favorite curse word with the initials "J.H.C.")
• "Who ordered the poo-poo platter?"

Edited by costanton11 on Apr 14th 2019 at 10:46:45 AM

What about Radar.The Cat In The Hat? (No, not that one).

The 2003 film adaptation of the book has an unusually staggering amount of adult content that got by, to the point where the Seuss estate expressed their disapproval over their inclusion and sparking a debate among critics and audiences over whether or not the movie should've kept its PG rating.

• The S.L.O.W.'s original acronym was the Super Hydraulic Instantaneous Transporter (S.H.I.T.), which Conrad is about to spell out until being cut off by the Cat. "Noooo! Quick! To the S.L.O.W.!"
• Conrad puts a loaf of bread between his trousers before doing the "Indoor Stair Luge".
• This bit with Larry and Conrad confronting each other:
  Lawrence "Larry": It's Lawrence, you snot-nosed little son of a [Joan walks in] WONDERFUL WOMAN who I'm ABSOLUTELY crazy about!
• Don't forget: "SON OF A B-(cue Sound-Effect Bleep)" after the Cat (as a chef) cuts off his tail during an argument with a TV show host (who is also the Cat himself). Most TV edits cut out the "B-" part and mute the bleep.
• Before Quinn's television set is repossessed as a result of a missed payment, it appears that he enjoys watching pornography (seeing the suggestive behavior of the woman on the television).
• When the kids ask the Cat where he came from shortly after his introduction, he takes it...a little too literally:
  The Cat: Hmmm...How do I put this?... When a mommy cat and a daddy cat love each other very much, they decide that--
  Conrad: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Where did you come from?
• When the Cat is singing the fun song:
  There was this cat I knew, back home where I was bred,
  He never listened to a single thing his mother said,
  He never used the litterbox, he made a mess in the hall,
  That's why they sent him to a vet and cut off both his b- *pauses* ...bo...bo...BOY!
  • And another verse from a deleted scene:
    There was a high-strung cat, who thought she knew it all,
    And when she schedules out her day, it could drive you up a wall,
    She likes to be the teacher's pet, always the head of the class,
    It took a ton of TNT to kill the bug up her aaaaaaaaaaaaaa...aaaaaa...aaaaaaaaaa... ASK me was she fun, fun, fun?
• An extreme example is when the Cat's hat is squashed and crooked, but then he looks at a picture of Sally and Conrad's apparently attractive mother, and his hat SHOOTS UP with an audible *BOING* sound!! How did that get past?! "Although those drapes are a train wreck."
  • A deleted scene took this Up To Eleven when, during the scene where he, Conrad and Sally go after Nevins, he literally shows the audience the very picture he saw for a few seconds while sitting on a flowing pool chair.
• While Conrad and Sally are signing the Cat's contract, they briefly go to one page... to see a "spayed and neutered" certificate. The Cat promptly takes said certificate and hides it, declaring, "This is nothing!"
• When this scene got by, it was clear that the censors weren't even trying anymore. The Cat calls a gardening hoe a "dirty hoe", leaves it alone and picks it up back and says "I'm sorry, baby. I love you!"
• When Conrad and Sally see the bathroom toilet shooting out flames while riding Ms. Kwan, the Cat comments that the two might want to "hold it for a little while" and that "Something like that really burns my AaaaaaaHHHHH!" right as Ms. Kwan reaches a drop in the track.

I think most, if not all of those do qualify. Regarding the "hooker" in Toy Story, we can't know what the creators and censors were thinking, and I'm opposed to requiring Word of God. I do question Radar.Spider Man PS 4, as it's a T-rated game.

Edited by rjd1922 on Oct 3rd 2019 at 2:48:59 PM

As an additional note on the "A Bug's Life" examples, several of them seem to be lacking context.

Since Examples Are Not Arguable, if we don't know, we shouldn't add it. I've been quick to remove a lot of examples, but now I'm not sure we should necessarily remove an example if we aren't sure it isn't one. I also agree that Word of God isn't required, since in some cases simply mentioning the radar standards is enough. For example, the page for Chilly Willy has this:

• Getting Crap Past the Radar: In "I'm Cold", chilly lives in a village called "Colder'nell" - meaning "colder than hell". At the time, The Hays Code was under effect, which would not have allowed the word "hell". Tex Avery, who directed, had previously dodged the radar with a town named "Coldernell" in his short The Shooting of Dan McGoo.

None of those are inappropriate for a T-rated game. The page should be cut.

The only one that could count is "Jiminy H. Cricket", but we'd need clarification as to whether or not references to religious curses are allowed in G-rated films (or were in 1998).

Since there would only be one example left on the Bug's Life page, what should be done?

Cutlist the page and move the example to WesternAnimation.A Bugs Life if sufficient context is provided.