Are all the "masturbation tropes" listed on A Date With Rosie Palms, Sub Tropes of that?
Because there's this, which if so, should be moved to Caught with Your Pants Down?
- Code Geass. Nina Einstein, the local Shrinking Violet, to a picture of her crush, using the edge of a table. Though she is quite Yandere, she was perfectly sane at the time, and she doesn't actually have the massive Freak Out until later, after said crush's very unfortunate death. The fandom's reaction to the scene? Squick, Memetic Mutation, and hate. There's a sort of running joke about her being interrupted by Nunnally: it's questionable who's luckier, Nunnally because she's blind or [[Caught with Your Pants Down Nina because Nunnally's blind.]] Otherwise, Nunnally would probably need Brain Bleach in the form of her brother Geassing her into forgetting it.
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I can't think of a reason it wouldn't be a sub-trope, and the example is better served at Caught with Your Pants Down.
The example's a ZCE though, it needs a verb.
Is Pun-Based Title a Double-Meaning Title Sub-Trope?
But that the second meaning involves a homophone or something, such that it's a play on words?
So... Would this be a Double-Meaning Title or a Pun-Based Title?
- Story Shuffle: "Rock On"
: A story about magic, music, Magic Music, stones, and magic stones that relate to music.
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- It's swapping "Crate" for the similar-sounding "Great". But yeah, you do expect crates... So it's otherwise nonsense. Hmm.
It does involve crates.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar:_A_Crate_Adventure#Ride
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I want to agree, but I sometimes see people misusing puns. To take something from Theme Parks as an example, if Madagascar: A Crate Adventure doesn't involve crates, then it's not a pun, it's just nonsense stuck in to sound funny. As long as "pun" isn't getting misused, then I think it should be a subtrope.
responding to the edit — Yes, I figured as much and was just using it as a general point. I distinguish pun-humour and homophone-humour based on if at least two meanings apply. If the ride put you in barrels instead of crates, it would still be fun/great, but it wouldn't have anything to do with crates, adding in a homonym to be silly, not meaningful. If we can generally assume that the examples are dual-meaning, then it would be a proper Sub-Trope.
Edited by crazysamaritan on Sep 29th 2020 at 11:22:24 AM
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Well, Wikipedia says that involves crates, and given the rest of the Madagascar series, it makes sense.
So I added context there.
Does the Double-Meaning Title quote sounds more Pun-Based Title, because it literally says "pun" in it?
Or is Yahtzee saying "pun", when they mean "humor"?
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I think they just mean humour because there's no righteous cause involved in their hijack example.
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Could Becoming the Mask be a subtrope of Death of Personality?
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I think most of the "subtropes" in that list don't fit. Becoming the Mask isn't always a subtrope, either.
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The tropes in that list are more like tropes that Death of Personality can involve.
Since Shared Universe is a Sub-Trope of Crossover, should the wick be changed?
Or is Shared Universe the trope that talks about the universe as a whole while Crossover is for individual instances?
- DCAU:
- Batgirl (from Batman: The Animated Series) and Supergirl (from Superman: The Animated Series) appeared in an episode also titled "Girls' Night Out". It was one of the many Crossovers that led to the foundation of the DCAU. This is actually its own subtrope now.
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I think I want to argue that they aren't strictly related... Either that, or I want to change Bat Family Crossover to be "crossover in a Shared Universe". To explain more clearly, a Shared Universe is a setting trope, where background elements are intentionally identical between two or more Creators, even where they deviate from real life. Crossover, to me, is always the event. It might be a premise for a work, but it remains an event, like Crisis on Infinite Earths. A normal episode of Arrow doesn't expect to see anyone from Supergirl, although we saw both casts during Crisis.
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Emerald Power states that it's a sister trope to Supernatural Is Green, Sickly Green Glow and Supernatural Is Purple.
However, Supernatural Is Green states that it is a sub-trope of both Emerald Power and Sickly Green Glow, and a sister trope to Supernatural Is Purple.
The two tropes appear to agree on the following:
- Emerald Power and Sickly Green Glow are sister tropes.
- Supernatural Is Green and Supernatural Is Purple are sister tropes.
Supernatural Is Purple states it's a sister trope to Supernatural Is Green but only lists Emerald Power as a comparison trope, not a sister trope. That seems to be in line with Supernatural Is Green, but not Emerald Power.
Sickly Green Glow does not attempt to clarify relationships, it simply says 'See also <insert list here>'.
I think the issue is therefore Emerald Power. It just needs to be reworded to being a super-trope for Supernatural Is Green and a sister trope to Sickly Green Glow. Supernatural Is Purple can become a 'Compare to...' reference. If so, Sickly Green Glow could also pull out Emerald Power from its list to clarify that's a sister trope.
Am I understanding this correctly?
Edited to add: Clarified that Supernatural Is Green states it's a sub-trope of Emerald Power and not... itself. 
Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 15th 2020 at 12:29:10 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Sounds right. Even accounting for Supernatural Is Green being the newest and therefore not crosswicked as well.
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Human Mom Non Human Dad isn't a Sub-Trope of Half-Human Hybrid because the Non-Human can themselves be a Hybrid of some kind, right?
Is there a significant difference between a fully non-human dad, vs. a semi-human one??
Else it feels like Half-Human Hybrid's 6K+ wicks need cleaning...
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The bigger problem I see is the number of inversion examples. That would be fine if Dad/Mom is about the parents instead of the child, but would mean they don't have a super/sub relationship. If the trope is about the child, then those examples need to be moved back to the supertrope. Either way, there might be more to discuss before cleanup can begin.
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Prophetic Names vs. Steven Ulysses Perhero.
They describe each other...
But I'd think Prophetic's description of Perhero is better than Perhero's description of itself?
Focusing on powers only, instead of expanding to roles.
Like future killers named Killer are prophetic but not superheroic.
...
Maybe I should take it to the distinction threads?
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Strong Family Resemblance says Family Eye Resemblance is a Sub-Trope...
Is that wrong? It's sort of the other way around? Eyes are one of the ways the resemblance is Strong?
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Looks more like sibling tropes to me.
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I'm more confused by the fact that the other "identical family appearance" tropes aren't subtropes. I'd like if we could identify one as "this is the general trope when family members look alike", but SFR isn't quite filling that role right now.
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- I'll think up names for that...
Shared Family Quirks would also need to be covered by that...
Weaponized Headgear... Is that fit Unusual Weapon Mounting's "Head Weapon: Weapons attached to the head, whether a cannon or a melee weapon (helping a lot with headbutting)."
Because that's the pothole it uses. I was looking for skull-implanted guns.
Note to self: Schlock Mercenary: 2007-05-15 strip implies a Heads-Up Display of a "targeting reticle" was part of a skullgun upgrade.
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Is Parental Incest a proper subtrope of Abusive Parents? It's listed as related on the former, and on the latter, incest is listed as a special form of abuse.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
It doesn't have the "Intent to deliberately inflict harm" quality?
Like, an Adam and Eve Plot's Parental Incest for example, is not abuse?
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Is Only in Florida a subtrope of Weirdness Magnet? The Bermuda Triangle certainly is.
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