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- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
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If those are Arc Words, what are they supposed to mean?
Musician/Composer
I think they’re supposed to mean the significance of the romantic themes involving the lead characters and their relationship with the heroines and the cherry blossom motif that is present throughout the games involving the Imperial Combat Revue.
Edited by gjjones on Sep 22nd 2019 at 2:43:43 PM
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Those are both just taglines.
Musician/Composer
Gotcha. I was just wondering.
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
About my prior question on Character Derailment. Is it an example if half of it is arguing it's justifiable and it falls under Came Back Wrong?
Found this on the Obligatory Joke page. Is it a proper entry, or is it just excessive?
- RWBY simultaneously invokes, subverts, defies, and lampshades this all at once in volume 3 episode 2, courtesy of that year's Vytal Festival announcers.Details
Port: You know what I call that victory?
Oobleck: Shocking?
Port: No, well earned. What you said is stupid.
It's excessive, and it's a Lame Pun Reaction, not Obligatory Joke.
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I think this on YMMV.Mighty No 9 is misuse; Beck appearing in a better-recieved game hasn't made people re-evaluate Mighty No. 9:
- Vindicated by History: Mighty Gunvolt Burst has been very well-received, with fans taking it as a sign that the franchise isn't dead yet.
Bad Prediction AU (Major SU spoilers):
- Cool Starship: The design of the Human Zoo◊ was greatly expanded upon after Pink was found out, made much larger to house a bigger capacity of humans.
This was originally a ZCE the page's creator added more info too, but I still don't think it actually explains anything. I commented it out the first time, so I'd be edit warring of I did it again.
Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Sep 23rd 2019 at 5:30:41 AM
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The reception of Mighty No. 9 hasn't improved at all. Cut.
OMG lol.
Also there is this obscure anime that apparently is pretty popular in Spain but insanely obscure elsewhere. Does it count?
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Count for what?
Also, another question; does it count as Holy Shit Quotient when the outcome of one episode is heavily implied in the previous episode?
Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Sep 24th 2019 at 3:03:03 PM
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Germans Love David Hasselhoff. Sorry for not specifying.
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From Did You Die?, is this an Inversion or what?
- Kind of inverted in Fallout. There's a ghoul character with a lot of war stories who will invariably respond to questions like "How did you survive?" with "Didn't. Got killed! Hehehehehe!" He really loves that joke.
I'm helping!
wrt Holy Shit Quotient: This is the number of times the audience said "holy shit" per scene, at least according to the description and laconic.
... How exactly is this a thing at all? Obviously it's an Audience Reaction but every example I've seen is "this thing made me say holy shit" and the 'quotient' part is completely absent.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Transcender of Gender
Yes, going by Did You Die?'s Playing With page and the examples of inversions from its page:
The "Kind of" is Word Cruft that needs to go, though.
they/them || "Forgive me, regent of queer amphibians" - Lt.BGob
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6f5e4d added a spoiler-tagged sentence to the end of this Pokémon entry on StatusQuoIsGod.Anime And Manga with no other changes. Should the example just be removed since it's no longer true?
- Ash will never win a League arc based on the main series's regions. According to Word of God, the anime will never truly end until Ash becomes a Pokémon Master. To the anime itself, this apparently means winning the regional Pokémon League tournament, and because of this Ash is going to lose at some point in the tourney, no matter how much of an edge he has. Painfully enforced in the Sinnoh League, where Ash was bested by Tobias and his Darkrai and Latios. The fact that Ash put a better dent in his team than the person Tobias faced next implied that Ash would have won the whole tournament if it weren't for the poorly-established man. Also among the most ridiculous is Cameron in Unova, a ditzy trainer who's made many an Epic Fail and yet still manages to pull a win against Ash by way of his Riolu evolving into Lucario partway through the fight. It happens again in the Kalos League (despite the creators naming the episode "Kalos League Victory! Ash's Ultimate Battle!")note , but this time Ash lost by way of the anime ignoring the basic function of Pokémon battles. Finally subverted when he won the Alola League.
...
These were deleted from Magical Girl Genre Deconstruction. I want to double-check that they're not deconstructions:
- Il Sole penetra le illusioni, also known as Daybreak Illusion, features magical girls who want to fight monsters... but then they discover that not only are the monsters created from corrupted humans, but they can't defeat the monsters without killing the humans as well—even humans who never wanted to be monstrous.
- Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne: A precursor (1997), but main character Maron suffers from Clinical Depression as a result of Parental Abandonment, and her magical companion and friend Fin is actually a fallen angel working for the Devil.
Edited by Pichu-kun on Sep 25th 2019 at 3:36:53 AM
That trope is more Darker aspects of Magical Girl. I honestly don't know how much Deconstruction goes through.
The Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne example is definitely not a deconstruction. From what I can remember of the manga, it never really takes apart any magical girl tropes to examine how real-life consequences would apply, and it doesn't seem to want to examine magical girl tropes that deeply at all.
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
Is this a variation of Weirdness Censor? If not, what is it?
- In Dad, several videos involve the interference of mysterious colored orbs, or the presence of men in black, YouTube-branded jackets. However, according to the "Act II Viewing Party" stream, Dad is unable to see these things. For example, one video with two YouTube men talking looks to him like a video with nothing but a plant and some strange noise. Interestingly, Mom and Daughter are not subject to this censoring, and have both been seen interacting with the men.
Seems more like Invisible to Normals, for whatever variation of "normal" Dad fits. I don't follow the series but it sounds like an inversion, invisible to weirdos?
Re: The Pokemon example on Status Quo Is God; I've heard a rumor that Pokemon is changing protagonists next season. If it turns out true, it'd become Nothing Is the Same Anymore and a true subversion. Without knowing the future, though, I'm not sure what to do with the example as-is. I guess remove it?
Edited by Darkaros on Sep 25th 2019 at 9:10:16 AM
x6 Removal is an option, but it can also be rephrased to say something like, "For many years and series, Ash would not win the series league"... etc.
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
Yeah, Dad is definitely not what you would consider normal, so yeah, maybe an inverse of Invisible to Normals then.
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Well, the "Transporting us to an age of romance in a flourish of sakura petals!" is repeated throughout the next episode previews of the games as well as the recent trailer to Project Sakura Wars. Do those count too?
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.