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- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
That's an issue for an actual thread, not ITAE.
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Sorry, I wasn't sure where to take it at first, so I figure I'd start small. I would have just zapped the example, but I wanted to make sure I understand what a proper example would actually look like.
Angry babby
That's Teen Pregnancy, which is definitely not chairs given the way media juxtaposes teenage immaturity/angst and parenthood.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
In a vacuum, I'd agree with you. But the series doesn't really go into it, since it's more of a Babies Ever After scenario (as in, the pregnancy technically occurs within the series but isn't really talked about, at all and is more of a timeskip, epilogue thing).
There are plenty of tropes to do with the situation as a whole, but AYM doesn't really seem like one of them.
Edited by ArthurEld on Apr 12th 2024 at 8:05:30 AM
I guess sorta-technically, all Teen Pregnancy are Absurdly Youthful Mother, a.k.a it's a sub-trope / supertrope situation, meaning yes, Absurdly Youthful Mother should be replaced by Teen Pregnancy?
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- Castlevania: Circle of the Moon: Pluto + (Cockatrice or Thunderbird), where Pluto is the last and ninth Action Card, meaning it's likely supposed to be one of the last cards that's acquired, given how the other cards are listed in order of when you can get them... Those two Pluto combos give a +1 boost to Defense or Attack for every 6 minutes of game time. But after a whole day of game time, a.k.a +240 which is more than is needed unless you're being conservative with your items and extending the game, it's weaker than attack and defense boosting combos from the easier-to-acquire Venus, the second Action Card. Even if they cost more to use, at the Character Level achieved after a full 24 hours of gaming, they can be used for over 2 minutes, which only the final boss fight would possibly need.
Edited by Malady on Apr 12th 2024 at 8:33:15 AM
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I agree we have a TRS candidate here.
Good luck then, everyone. Good night!
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I agree with Arthur even more now, if Teen Pregnancy is its own trope and Mom looks a sis is another, then what they hell does Absurdly Youthful Mother acomplish then?
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Absurdly Youthful Mother used to encompass all those tropes with an on-page soft-split into different subtropes. It was revoked into its current state by TRS, while some tropes, like Mum Looks Like a Sister and Supernaturally Young Parent were made into their own pages. Iirc, they considered disambiguating Absurdly Youthful Mother but decided against it because there were examples that didn't fit aforementioned tropes.
Edit: Here is the TRS thread: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1385434380056566700&page=1
It was long time ago, so maybe it's worth to look at this trope again, but you can see what their thought process was behind the decision to keep it.
Edited by kundoo on Apr 12th 2024 at 9:14:10 AM
You didn't see anything.
Edgy Lesbian Furry. They/Them
I was told this would be a good place I put a question i previously put on Ask The Tropers, so here goes nothing. If a group of characters from a video game have an origin story provided in supplementary material but claim the origin story is a piece of media in-universe in their first appearance, would that count as Recursive Canon?
Noone's ever too old to do anything. You better remember that.
I've seen this sort of thing a few times where instructions are followed without some tact, but not sure what the right trope is. Be Careful What You Say seems to fit?
- Princesses of the Pizza Parlor: Pasta and Pupils: Investigator Konstantin interrupts his superior's meeting with a pretty woman, because said superior said "come as soon as he had details":
The look on Abbot Selixi's face left no doubt in the investigator that something had been interrupted, if only the old cleric's hopes and dreams. Tough toenails, as his own father would say; the Abbot had asked Konstantin to come as soon as he had details, and there was no point in sulking over the results.
Edited by Malady on Apr 13th 2024 at 3:52:03 AM
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There seems to be a disagreement going on the Fallout (2024)'s page regarding whether the Fall Of Shady Sands in 2277 is a Continuity Snarl with New Vegas, since it's the same year that the First Battle of Hoover Dam took place, and Shady Sands is still referred to in the game as an active powerhouse in 2281. Not the nuke part, mind you, since the date isn't known. Thoughts?
Edited by Super_Weegee on Apr 13th 2024 at 8:20:23 AM
Bumping #31273. I didn’t clarify last time that I intend to list the comic as an example , not as an image.
Stark Holmes
Oh, well if it’s a comic example, then it works.
Looking at the page for The Osbournes (and it’s YMMV), there's some poorly aged troping for real people, but this example stands out to me:
Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on Apr 13th 2024 at 7:36:49 AM
Discombobulate.
Thank you, but is it considered an Inversion or a Deconstruction? The point it’s making is that gold coins are NOT cheap.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
So, I have a question about this entry on Trivia.Raya And The Last Dragon
- Word of Saint Paul: Kelly Marie Tran welcomes headcanons about Raya being LGBT, also believing that Raya is LGBT herself and that Raya and Namaari's relationship has a romantic subtext to it. She's even joked that she was probably the first person to ship them.
Tran: I think if you're a person watching this movie and you see representation that feels real and authentic to you, then it's real and authentic. I think it might get me in trouble for saying that, but whatever.
Isn't this more Word of Gay or Shipper on Set?
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
It's either real or it's a dream
On Film.Friday The13th 2009, does a "meta" reading of the film like this really count as a trope for a work page? It feels like a misplaced Role Association entry:
- Cool vs. Awesome: Not really, but it was largely this in a meta-sense for many fans of Supernatural and this franchise. Many people saw this as "Sam Winchester vs Jason Voorhees".
Edited by harryhenry on Apr 14th 2024 at 6:48:22 AM
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Nope. Cut.
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Ali (she/her)
The Hunchback of Notre Dame world in Kingdom Hearts, which debuts in Dream Drop Distance (2012), actually appeared in a non-canon Italian comic adaption released when the first game came out in 2002.note
Would this be Ret-Canon? Adaptational Early Appearance? Broad Strokes? Would Quasimodo, Esmeralda, Frollo, and Laverne be considered Canon Immigrants?
On YMMV.Deadpool And Wolverine:
- Questionable Casting: A few eyebrows were raised at the casting of Matthew Macfadyen of all people as Agent Paradox in this film, given he had previously expressed misgivings regarding blockbuster filmmaking back in 2022.
This seems more like "Why is Macfadyen personally making the decision to take part in this project" (besides money), rather than "this is a weird casting choice". Cut?
Cut.
From Miami Connection.
Artistic License – Medicine: After Jim's devastating chest wound from a katana, Mark then drags Jim through the swamp and onto a patch of ground. Any paramedic or medical personnel would tell you never move a heavily injured victim unless you absolutely have no choice. Mark also goes into Berserker Mode instead of applying ANY first aid to Jim's ungodly amount of blood loss and laceration.
I wonder if this fits overall considering the situations the heroes were in in that they being attack by ninjas and they were fighting in a river. So they had to move Jim or else he would of drowned or been finished off by the ninjas. So it was a emergency as it's say. Also, they couldn't do first aid as well.
Edited by WhirlRX on Apr 14th 2024 at 12:28:34 PM
I’ll take a potato chip… and EAT IT!
and cut it
From N.W.A
- Really Gets Around: Most of the members expect Ice Cube was very promiscuous. However Dr.Dre, Eazy-E, and DJ Yella fit this to a T. Eazy and Dre had multiple kids by the time their album Straight Outta Compton came out. DJ Yella after NWA broke-up went on to do pornography.
Does this violate NREP? Because this seems to be about the groups members instead of any of their songs. And it’s a sexuality trope which is FIRMLY NREP.
Edited by LarryT on Apr 14th 2024 at 1:07:14 AM
In honor of Akira Toriyama
Stark Holmes
Yeah, I don’t think talking about a band's sexcapades is trope worthy. An easy cut.
Bullman: That's Word of Gay, alright. It can be changed to that trope.
Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on Apr 14th 2024 at 2:19:58 AM
Discombobulate.
So, this isn't about a specific example, though one did lead me here.
What, precisely, is Absurdly Youthful Mother for?
The Laconic says its for when a parent looks about the same age as their child. But isn't that what Mum Looks Like a Sister is?
The description for AYM is very barebones. There's a bit about Real Life and how pregnancies can happen very early, a tiny sente, but once about how it's used which leaves the actual description to be..."When you subtract the age (or apparent age) of a child from that of their parent (mother or father, despite the trope name), this results."
Which is a very bad description because, in addittion to being short, a trope's description should descrbibe it, not tell us how we might get to it. The actual examples in the page itself are mostly "this actor is played by a 27 year old, and their child is played by a 19 year old, so the writers are bad at math"
For reference, the example I found (from Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans) was just "teenagers have sex, and then a child." Which seems borderline Chairs on its own, honestly.
Can someone clear this up for me?