Five-Man Band cleanup

You might want to change "book five" to "''Crystal Crowned", which is the fifth book's title, but otherwise it looks fine.

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Found on Madan Senki Ryukendo

• Five-Man Band - The Jamanga follow this trope exactly:
  • The Big Bad - DaiMaOh
  • The Dragon - Dr. Worm/Jack Moon
  • The Evil Genius - Baron Bloody
  • The Brute - Rock Crimson
  • The Dark Chick - Lady Gold

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Six characters (Dr. Worm and Jack Moon are different characters, according to the series' Wikipedia page), so that's a cut. Removed it.

Edited by Twiddler on Jan 28th 2023 at 6:38:13 AM

Found this on Characters.Dominoes The Irregulars

• Five-Man Band: Subverted. They are a team of five superheroes in training, but they don't really fit the archetype well. Hattori and Hakuba fit the best, with Hattori as The Lancer and Hakuba as The Leader. Hattori is a good personality foil for Hakuba, making him a solid Lancer, but in terms of the classic leadership roles, Hakuba's not really charismatic, headstrong, or a mastermind, and while he has a levelheaded demeanor it's mostly used to emotionally tear down descent rather than to unify, which leads just as often to internal group conflicts as it does to cooperation. The other three roles are The Big Guy, The Chick, and The Smart Guy, but none of those fit well with the three remaining members, Ran, Kazuha, and Aoko—or rather, none of these roles apply to any particular remaining members in ways that couldn't be arguably applied to the others just as much. The Five-Man Band archetype falls further apart when Hattori quits the team after the events of Part 1.

It's a massive wall of text that isn't even a subversion. I've cut it for now, but if anyone wants to rewrite it, go ahead.

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Should we maybe add the former trope image to the imagelinks as an example to the FMB trope? I mean the original with The Heart not the changed one with The Chick written over. Since the previous image of the Voltron team is there as well.

Found this in Characters.Torment Tides Of Numenera.

• Five-Man Band: They call themselves the Fifth Eye, and there are five of them. Dhama is indisputably The Leader and Ziobe was their primary physical warrior. The other roles are less obvious since we never see them as an active team. As powerful psychics, any of them might qualify as The Smart Guy on another team.

The sentence, "...we never see them as an active team", raises a red flag on whether this example is correct.

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...Yeah, cut that.

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Found this in Music.Girls Aloud.

• Five-Woman Band:
  • The Leader: Cheryl, the most vocal member and the center of much of the band's media attention, undeniably the group's overall Breakout Star.
  • The Lancer: Nadine, while essentially the musical Face Of The Band as the main vocalist on most the group's songs, she generally had a quieter media personality & tended to stay out of the limelight in comparison to Cheryl.
  • The Smart Girl: Nicola, while often seemingly playing the role of the Shrinking Violet through much of the band's run she later showed to have the most hidden talents of any member, especially as a fashionista and songwriter.
  • The Big Guy: Sarah, thanks to a bit of an edgier, Tanktop Tomboy reputation, though perhaps more fitting as "The Wild One".
  • The Heart: Kimberley, thanks to her Team Mom and Only Sane Woman traits.

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These are real people; I'm not sure FMB can really apply since it's a narrative pattern.

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Found these entries with a Five-Man Band pothole in DeconstructorFleet.Anime And Manga and DeconstructorFleet.Hunterx Hunter.

Both entries involve four people, not five, so the potholes are incorrect. How to rewrite the entries (whether the entries do qualify Deconstructor Fleet is another issue)?

Edited by ElRise on Mar 20th 2023 at 1:01:03 AM

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Found this example in VideoGame.Stubbs The Zombie. Cut?

• Five-Man Band: Andrew Monday, Mr. Skegnis, Chief Masters, Dr. Wye, Otis Monday, and Maggie Monday are a villainous variation of this trope.
  • The Big Bad: Andrew Monday, in that he's a greedy man who treats the city like it's his play-place and cares more about property damage than the death toll, and he's also a tyrant in terms of how much he is in control of the city. That, and he's literally the leader of this villainous group.
  • The Dragon: Mr. Skegnis, in that he's Andrew Monday's right-hand man and the most loyal member in this Five-Man Band to Monday. Him being a bodyguard means that he often next to him in order to do his job protecting Andrew Monday and fitting his position as The Dragon he obeys most of Monday's orders.
  • The Evil Genius: Dr. Wye, in that he's the smartest member of this group since he's a scientist. Combined with Token Evil Teammate, as it should be noted that he's even evil than his allies, due to his Anti-Villain status unlike his Nominal Hero allies.
  • The Brute: Chief Masters, in that he loves to solve most of his problems with violence. More so than the other members of this band. In fact, he encourages the police officers directly in his command to "shoot first and ask no questions whatsoever", in other words he encourages his men in his direct command to use brute force first no matter what, further demonstrating why Chief Masters deserves to be labelled The Brute.
  • The Dark Chick: Maggie Monday. She counts as a Dark Chick because she associates with this villainous Five-Man Band, is the only woman in this band, and supports their efforts, though she will still call out problematic things she notices such as Mr. Skegnis’ unwanted advances and her son caring more about property damage than people dying. However, this is combined with Token Good Teammate as she is the most kind-hearted character in this game until her zombification-induced Face–Heel Turn (and even then, she's still kind-hearted enough to persuade Stubbs into letting their son live), and she's oblivious to most of the corruption of the other members of this evil Five-Man Band.
  • The Sixth Ranger: Otis Monday doesn't directly work with the other villains, but is the entire reason the game happens in the first place and isn't the most stable of individuals following the zombie attacks. He's The Sixth Ranger in that he's the obligatory sixth addition to this five-man band, does not fit the other five positions in this band, and he helps this evil Five-Man Band by fighting for a town ruled with an iron fist by this sinister five man band's leader.

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Six members, not five; cut it.

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I'm tempted to nuke this one due to how awfully formatted it looks. From Manga.Medaka Box:

• Five-Man Band:

  • Against the Thirteen Party:

  • Big Bad: Oudo.
  • The Dragon: Yukuhashi.
  • The Evil Genius: Naze.
  • The Brute: Takachiho.
  • The Dark Chick: Koga. Subverted in that she's really peppy and nice.
  • The Sixth Ranger: Munakata.
    • During the Student Council Election battle:
  • Big Bad: Kumagawa. Subverted in that he fought first, but then played straight in the president battle.
  • The Dragon: Gagamaru.
  • The Evil Genius: Shiranui certainly counts.
  • The Brute: Shibuki.
  • The Dark Chick: Mukae.

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Yes. Kill it. I don't think we can salvage it.

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That is a ZCE tree. Cut it.

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I don't think anything there can be saved. Just cut it.

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It's axed.

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This was added to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge:

• Five-Man Band: Every mutated member of the playable roster embodies a certain archetype.
  • The Hero: Leonardo.
  • The Big Guy: Raphael.
  • The Heart: Michelangelo.
  • The Smart Guy: Donatello.
  • The Mentor: Splinter.
    • Sixth Ranger: Miyamoto Usagi.

Comment out or cut? Indentation and zero context notifiers sent to AlexTropesFisher, who added it.

Edited by homogenized on Sep 1st 2023 at 10:19:30 AM

Cut it if Alex doesn't resolve those issues, I reckon. If the examples still seem like misuse after added context, cut them.

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Additionally, we don't count the Sixth Ranger in our FMB examples anymore.

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So remove all the Sixth Rangers from all FMBs.

Edited by AbsoluteRainbow on Feb 9th 2024 at 5:40:32 PM

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It's the other way around. A Five-Man Band with a Sixth Ranger is no longer a Five-Man Band.

Although they might still count for the part of the story before the sixth joins.

Yeah, it's possible but if not then examples should be rewritten for The Team.

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Isn’t that an exampleless supertrope now?

It’s a bit confusing when a trope is like that, but fine.

Edited by Lymantria on Feb 11th 2024 at 9:22:09 AM

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