The various "higher powers" - the gods and the Great Old Ones and whatnot - will one day evolve into the Arisians and the Eddore from the Lensman series.
Hey, en't no one else around to do the job.- For this to take place, the Lensman timeline has to start fairly soon- requiring that World War III break out. Eep!
The Elder Gods belong to the same race of beings as the Ainur.
The Sorns exist on Barsoom, suggesting that it is the same world as Malacandra. Numenor is mentioned in That Hideous Strength. Voldemort will make a Lawyer-Friendly Cameo as the Big Bad in the final volume of Century.
If by the time the series catches up to the modern day Oliver Haddo, i.e., every dark wizard from British fiction, isn't referred to by some variant of "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named", this troper will eat his hat.- If not Voldemort, then Harry Potter himself definitely will. King's Cross has already been established as an important locale, so it's not unlikely that we we'll see a black haired young man with a familiar scar on his forehead walking along in the background.
- For what it's worth, Moore already featured parody versions of Harry Potter and Dumbledore in the Smax miniseries.
- Also, Hogwarts is already in, at least by implication - Century includes a mention of 'the franchise express' departing from Victoria Station. So if the train's there, presumably so are all the characters.
- For what it's worth, Moore already featured parody versions of Harry Potter and Dumbledore in the Smax miniseries.
- Tom Riddle appears as himself but he isn't an avatar or expy of Crowley until he ends up possessed by Haddo's spirit.
- Indeed cleared in 1969 - Tom Riddle is the latest host to Oliver Haddo's spirit.
- In fact, based on what we now know of both Haddo's soul and Harry's origin story, it's possible that a grown-up Harry could be the villain of the third installment. Consider - Haddo's soul passes through three hosts, choosing a younger body to live longer. Harry had a portion of Riddle's essence, hence his Parseltongue. Little bit of misdirection in the final book, and oh look, Haddo has given up his previous body for a younger one, and gets to carry out his endgame.
- Roughly confirmed. While Riddle's not the Big Bad, Harry is although he hasn't held true to Haddo's goals as of yet.
In another Lawyer-Friendly Cameo, Khan Noonien Singh will appear as a descendant of Nemo
Word of God states that a Sikh terrorist descended from Nemo will appear in the final volume. There are few other Sikh villains said to live in this time period that would fit.- I... I think my head just broke from how cool that would be...
- Is it possible the terrorist is V? I don't know how the years mesh up, but being a Sikh (or a known descendant of Nemo for that matter) would be enough to get someone sent to the camps.
- That would be wonderful, but in the Graphic novel, V died in 1998 bringing down Norsefire with him. Though, if the image of 2009 in Century: 1969 is anything to go by, it's likely that old regimes die hard.
- Not so. A cursory inspection of the collected V for Vendetta shows V to be alive and well at the end of the story...
- Is it possible the terrorist is V? I don't know how the years mesh up, but being a Sikh (or a known descendant of Nemo for that matter) would be enough to get someone sent to the camps.
- Apparently josses by Century 2009, where the descendant is revealed to be the unremarkable "Jack Nemo."
- But this could still work; if Little Jack takes the nickname Khan (after Shere Khan, a famous tiger from his home country), he could be Khan No-name, the Sikh.
- Nemo I had a lot of Hindu art aboard the Nautilus and his daughter was known to swear "By Durg!"; hailing from Bundelkhand, it would make sense for them to be Hindu. However, the turban seems to imply the family subscribes to Sikhism; perhaps Nemo I was a recent convert who never fully abandoned respect for his ancestral Hindu culture?
- But this could still work; if Little Jack takes the nickname Khan (after Shere Khan, a famous tiger from his home country), he could be Khan No-name, the Sikh.
- Even though Moore didn't explicitly take this route, it's amusing to note that Jack Nemo is the product of carefully arranged marriages between criminal masterminds (one might suggest, eugenics? As one might get in a kind of Eugenic War?), and that his last act in the series is to take his crew into space to escape a devastating World War.
The Golliwog is the same race as the creators of the TMA Monoliths
- He has already been stated to hail from a "dark matter dimension" and made of a material that completely absorbs light. Since the first issue of Century has him sailing to the moon, we may see him make a connection to his home world via the monoliths.
By the final issue of Century, Emma Peel will become the next "M"
- In the Black Dossier she was offhandedly referred to as "Em," and we know that she will eventually rise through the ranks of British Intelligence. If the Bond-as-codename theory is correct and the League follows this theory, the Bond of the final volume will be Daniel Craig's incarnation, who answers to an M played by Judi Dench. Emma could fit this role nicely.
- Alternatively, the role of M will be taken by Malcolm Tucker. After all, he seems to run everything else in British government.
- Confirmed in Century: 2009.
The future of the League-verse will be the future described in The Time Machine which would appear after the events in Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, Huxley's Brave New World, and Fritz Lang's Metropolis.
Morlocks, the Time Traveler, and characters from Metropolis have already appeared in League canon. The future in The Time Machine was, according to Wells, the result of trillions of years of class division (Metropolis) and division of labor (Brave New World) brought about by industrialism and capitalism (Atlas Shrugged).- Then the ending of Metropolis was a Pyrrhic Victory.
- All of this works except for Metropolis. It's already canon that the titular Metropolis is actually Berlin in the early 20th century. The robot Maria was a member of the German league as early as the 1910s, as established in Black Dossier.
- If we're talking about dystopic and apocalyptic fiction, thought, Mad Max could easily fit.
- I'd like to imagine that the Mad Max dystopia is isolated in Australia. The reckless driving may also be what finally kills the last of the Liliputians
- Mad Max happened long before the other dystopian stories.
- All of this will probably be in the far future... and both Danger Days and the Mushroom War probably has something to do with Orlando.
- THX 1138 also takes place in the future. But it happens a century after Brave New World. Apparently, some kind of nuclear war happened since then, which resulted humanity to live underground. After the end of the movie, THX chose to live above the surface and mingled with any surviving humans and became the founding father of the Eloi society.
- Actually, it does not seem hard to picture Atlas Shrugged happening sometime after World War II. Jet planes are described as a technology that is relatively new and television is described as a novelty rather than something commonplace, putting the technology level at the 1950s. Also, there is mention to "People's States" in South America and Europe, capitalism as we know it is an ideal from the 19th century, and countries around the world are seeing big-government Marxist statism ... fitting in with the establishment of Ingsoc and Big Brother in Britain.
All, and I mean ALL, of the Post-Apocalyptic forms of work (comics, manga, films, literature and music) will be depicted, or exist along, after some kind of nuclear war
- From Danger Days, to The Stand, Mad Max, Y: The Last Man, I Am Legend, Desert Punk, and even some zombie stuff, it will all coexist in a post-apocalyptic world, and all would be like turfs and gangs, all divided into a big nothing world, desert and destroyed.
- Sort of Jossed; Vol. 4 crams a lot of apocalyptic fiction in, but not all of it, or even most of it listed here
While female, Orlando was Freya from Merlin (2008).
- Well, it's already stated in Black Dossier that he boinked the magus, so... there it goes.
Batman will only become active in the 1960s
Its a widespread factoid that the first Batman story cribs its story nigh-word-for-word from a The Shadow story. So, here goes: all the adventures that are specific to Golden Age Batman are actually Shadow adventures. Batman will start sometime in the 60s, and be accompanied by some twit kid who says "Holy invisibility!" a lot.- In the Wold Newton timeline, Batman's Golden Age adventures and the LoEG are canon. The 60s Batman could be Dick Grayson and 60s Robin is probably Bruce Wayne Jr.
- Batman would start being active in 1939, when he first appeared.
The History of the Batman
- Contrariwise, there have been multiple Batmen throughout Gotham's lifetime. First was Bruce Wayne, who continued his vendetta of crime with a child sidekick named Dick Grayson, sooner later replaced by Jason Todd when Grayson became Nightwing. However, Bruce Wayne would suffer from a mental breakdown after Jason Todd was murdered by The Joker, forcing him to retire.
- After Bruce's forced retirement, Dick took on the role with his side kick Bruce "Damian" Wayne Junior. This Batman was the one we saw in the '60s, more light-hearted and hip, but over time, he couldn't handle the heavy stress work from being Batman, he gave the title to his recently resurrected brother, Jason Todd.
- Bruce would return to his identity as Batman during Grayson's second run (without Grayson's permission or knowledge) after a psychotic episode, with Batman employing destructive and homicidal tactics in criminals, including the supposed murder of the Joker. He was later stopped by a fellow Justice League member and faked his death. After his fight with the Man of Steel, he began becoming more and more delirious, having deep hallucinations and anarchistic desires. His reign of terror ended when his old sidekick Grayson appeared before him, and in a jealous hallucination, announced him as a coward and viewed him as his long-time nemesis. After Grayson defeated him, he had no choice but to place him in Arkham Asylum, where Bruce eventually died of old age, never cured...
- However, Jason Todd's tenure as Batman was noted for his heavily aggressive attitude, but he was later calmed by a young Tim Drake and lost most of his homicidal tenancies. His tenure was short, for he was soon crippled (mentally and physically) by a South American Terrorist named Bane. He would later return to the anti-hero world as the Red Hood.
- His tenure was replaced by a certain Jean-Paul Valley, who was a poor choice in Jason's part and mentally unwell. This forced Dick Grayson to return as Batman and remove Jean-Paul forcefully from his tenure as Batman.
There would be space for V for Vendetta
- Alan Moore won't miss the chance!
- It would make a lot of sense if he did. One of the main conceits of the series is that the world of fiction is a strange mirror to our own world, and events in fiction run parallel to the world of fact, à la the Hitler/Hynkel doubling. At the end of V for Vendetta, the film version at least, everyone in Britain marches on Parliament wearing V's mask. In real life, that iconic V mask has been used by the hacking group Anonymous as well as the Occupy movement around the world. The world of fiction in V for Vendetta spilled over to the world of fact. It wouldn't be out of place to see a protest featuring people wearing V's mask in the final volume of Century at all, even if the story *wasn't* set in a world of fiction.
Mr. Flint is another immortal from the Pool Of Life
- Meaning we've already ran into him as Leonardo da Vinci
Before the end of the 20th century, our heroes will live through some kind of nuclear exchange
A lot of fiction has been made based on the idea that there was some kind of atomic war in the three generations after World War II. A lot. If its coming, then we ought to see it sometime around The '80s, since atomic war fiction before then tends towards potenially kick-ass after-effects (example off the top of my head - Asimov's "I, Robot" collection), while fiction during and after then points up potentially horrific side-effects (Threads, Mad Max), while also marking a rise in the number of guntoting goons in pop fiction. Maybe it ties into the Crisis on Infinite Earths, maybe it doesn't. Whichever, our protagonists better dress up warm, and start watching out for cyborg-versus-atomic-zombie brutality... And Watchmen will be involved somehow.
- It's possible that The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy will be involved. In Black Dossier, Oliver Haddo pointed out that the number of Smarra (the harlot said to bring the end of the world) had a sacred number of four hundred and forty-two. If this is the case, the number forty-two might play a role in the Apocalypse.
Notes on world leaders
- From 1881 to 1890, the President of the United States was Funny Valentine. An independent who was immensely popular with the population who’s death is shrouded in mystery. The most notable event in his presidency was overseeing the 1890 Cannonball Run that kept the event of cross-country racing alive to the modern day. It is a popular theory that President Prez Rickard was his biological great-grandchild.
- US President in 1898 was Thomas J. Whitmore, who did not live long afterwards. His role in the Martian invasion was detailed in a biopic that curiously chose to give the whole event a Setting Update.
- From 1902 to 1910, the American President was John Norton, whose niece famously married a certain wealthy newspaper magnate.
- President from 1929 to 1933 was probably Stanley Craig, who was astoundingly abducted by a cabal of industrialists with fascist sympathies.
- From 1933 to 1945, the American President was Judson C. 'Judd' Hammond, a partisan hack who, due to a car accident, claimed to have been possessed by an angel and turned America into a dictatorship.
- Ardent supporters of his included Governor Buzz "The Kingfisher" Windrip of Louisiana, and Senator Jefferson Smith of Montana.
- President from '77 to '81 was probably Billy Connor of Mississippi. Although well remembered for his older brother Duffy's creation of a popular beer brand, he is generally regarded as having mishandled the situation when the Soviets planned to cut off America's access to Arabian oil.
- James Marshall was President from '81-'89, and remained controversial for his past in the film industry ("Nobody wants a goddam space cowboy in the White House").
- If Marshall's successor wasn't Blutarsky Sr. (see below), perhaps we went through a rapid period of several presidents who died or resigned due to an unstable political climate, including one Jack Ryan
- From 2000 to 2008, the American President was John Blutarsky, possibly following in the footsteps of his father John, Sr. In 2008 he was replaced by David Palmer.
- Blutarsky remained a member of the U.S. senate, alongside illustrious names like Arthur Petrelli and Robert Kelly.
- Both of whom, incidentally, were ardent supporters of The Kane Act, which cracked down on super powered entities using their abilities to fight crime during the third term of Max Foster.
- Blutarsky remained a member of the U.S. senate, alongside illustrious names like Arthur Petrelli and Robert Kelly.
- More likely the 2000-2008 term was Jed Bartlet, followed by Matthew Santos. Especially since The West Wing's rogue state of Qumar is going to play a major role in 2009.
- It should probably be added that at the time he was partially based on one senator Barack Obama, therefore lending himself as a perfect fictional stand-in.
- The parallels to Obama are too perfect not to use. The final election as depicted on The West Wing between Arnold Vinick and Matthew Santos had eerie similarities to the real election between Obama and McCain, something which didn't go unnoticed by the American media.
- The 2008 election was between David Palmer and Teddy Bridges.
- David Palmer turns out to be president in Century: 2009. Which raises the question of what happened with the Santos election. (Assassination? Backs down in favor of Palmer? Maybe Palmer in the League-verse is candidate of a third party?)
- Given that Santos had no V.P. (after Leo McGarry's death on election night), perhaps Palmer was his V.P. and then Santos either quit or was murdered.
- Or perhaps Santos was killed by the Toclafane during The Master's invasion of Earth, and Palmer (as VP) succeeded him.
- In the Fifties, nuclear catastrophe was narrowly averted by President Merkin Muffley, aided by an eccentric German scientist. The scientist later became Secretary of State under Max Foster.
- David Palmer never got to finish his term as President, as Keyser Söze infiltrated the US Congress under the alias "Francis Underwood", and eventually managed to oust Palmer and become president himself.
- Keyser Söze eventually backed his long-time ally/protege Alexander "Lex" Luthor in a successful bid for the presidency.
- Thomas Carcetti was elected President in 2024, after a long stint as Governor of Maryland. He presided over the war with the city-state of Zero One in Qumar.
- It should probably be added that at the time he was partially based on one senator Barack Obama, therefore lending himself as a perfect fictional stand-in.
- Also Tom Davis is almost certainly the British Prime Minister.
- All but confirmed - in interviews Moore mentioned writing dialogue for Malcolm Tucker at one point.
- Adenoid Hynkel's middle name was "Gloriana". You know why.
- In that case, "Springtime For Hynkel" must be a Tony-award winning classic.
- Timothy Keagan, Max Foster, Fidel Castro and Robert McNamara once fought zombies in the Pentagon.
- Abraham Lincoln was the one of the first Male Slayers.
- The 80's saw way to US President Johhny Cyclops and U.K. Prime Minister Helen Atcher.
- Let's not forget the lukewarm and bureaucratic government of Jim Hacker.
- Max Foster was a martial artist who once put out a drug that shrank black men's dicks.
- He was also expose for the Water-Gateway Scandal by two teenage girls for his cruelty towards his dog.
- It's an outright fact that Timothy Keagan was assassinated from a grassy knoll, though it's unknown who the gunman that killed him was due to the ludicrously large amount of gunmen at the mound who claimed responsibility for killing him, some though suspect that a bullet didn't kill him but rather a mutant did.
- Some even say that the gunman on the grassy knoll was actually Timothy Keagan from an Alternate History who did it.
- Lee Harvey Oswald was actually trying to protect someone.
- Sometime in the sixties, several significant communist leaders participated in a British quiz show. Among those present were Bordurian dictator Kurvi-Tasch and General Alcazar of San Theodoros.
- Clayton M. Abernathy became President in the early 2010s. His administration focused on diplomacy with sympathetic alien factions such as the Spaceknights and the Cybertronian "Autobots" and funding experimental projects for defense against super-powered threats, the most prominent of them being the Mobile Armored Strike Command and the reconstructed X-COM Project.
- Right-wing folk singer Bob Roberts won the 90's election with over half of the votes, but only served halfway through the thirty days when he was outed by a brother and a sister from Springfield for using the names of the deceased as voters and tricking him to confess by claiming he was Birth Barlow's puppet.
- Nehemiah Scudder was elected president of the United States in 2012. Scudder proceeded to establish a theocratic dictatorship with himself as its totalitarian First Prophet. Dissidents in the new "Republic of Gilead" were either killed or exiled to a penal colony in Los Angeles. Scudder's oppressive policies towards women were notorious as Scudder made them act as sex slaves in the wake of the mass sterility epidemic.
- After various scandals, the US Congress lowered the age of eligibility for presidency to appease the youth vote. They, in turn, elected Prez Rickard, a teenage middle-american idealist who managed to pass sensible gun legislation and pardoned a former president, who had killed himself in Office due to working for a terrorist organization called "The Secret Empire".
- The first female president of the United States was Leslie McCloud, elected in 1964 after President Merkin Muffley declined to pursue a full term of his own. McCloud would ultimately resign the presidency after getting pregnant (being succeeded by her running mate, J. Pierrepont Finch, who ultimately resigned the office as well after being nominated to serve as the ceremonial president of the galaxy and was replaced by James Norcross). Since McCloud left office, several women have sought the presidency, including Vice President Selina Meyer, former First Lady and Secretary of State Elaine Barrish Hammond, Write-In Candidate Beth Ross, who's the youngest presidental cadidate on the list and Senator Florentyna Kane. Ultimately, the nation would only elect another female president in 2020, when Senator Elle Woods defeated President Johnny Gentle in his bid for reelection.
- The 1990's would be the period where the left took a decided jump to the center, best exemplified by President Jack Stanton in America and Prime Minister Adam Lang in the UK.
Harry Potter is the Moonchild
If Voldemort has received the Crowley expy and the Moonchild may still take decades to create, it only follows...- Well, that couuuuuld make sense. However, as the last issue of Century is set on 2010, and Harry Potter is no longer a child (more likely, an auror, maybe), and the Moonchild is told to be born on the year of 2010, then the chances are harsh. Let's wait to see.
- Depends on how a Moonchild works - Harry could be the vessel for Moonchild-related energies that are summoned into him (and seeing as how Haddo has a variation on Crowley's "love is the law" phrase at the end of his treatise on the gods in Black Dossier, and how Harry is infused with his mother's love, it's certainly possible that he's undergone initial preparation (disclaimer: I know very little about Thelema or Crowley's novel The Moonchild, so I could easily be talking out of my arse)).
- Regarding Potter and connections to Crowley - I doubt that Rowling studied much about the occult, despite accusations lobbied against her by certain religious groups. Mythology, sure, but not Crowleyan occultism. Still, one thing came to mind - Crowley's "Liber 777" describes how divine knowledge reaches humanity through the Sephirot in a path that resembles three backwards sevens, hence the title. It's possible that this Moonchild is meant to be a magical savior, connecting humanity to the path of the divine a la the ending to Alan Moore's Promethea. As such, it would make sense for Haddo/Crowley to mark his Moonchild with a symbol of *three sevens in the shape of a lightning bolt.*
- Confirmed
Brian is Jesus
From Monty Python's Life of Brian, Brian is set like a messiah, just like Jesus. And, as we have seen through the comics that real life figures have been replaced by his fictional counterparts (The Beatles — The Rutles, Adolf Hitler — Adenoid Hynkel, Queen Elizabeth — Queen Gloriana, Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones — Turner Purple and The Purple Orchestra), it could make sense that Brian is the League's Christ figure (without replacing the names of "Jesus" or "Christ", as they were just translations of the real name of Jesus).This is, of course, assuming that Jesus existed on real life, and I presume the League's universe would take Brian as a messiah (being humans too, they would, I presume). Don't start a flame religious war here, it's just a WMG that occured to me.- This theory would only work if Brian was a Jesus stand in. But the film clearly states that Brian is not the messiah (he's a very naughty boy!) and he is not Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus himself appears twice in the film - once during the Nativity and once preaching his Sermon on the Mount. And in both instances Jesus was depicted in an orthodox Christian way. In the League universe, Jesus is likely still Jesus. Brian's cult probably sputtered and died soon after his crucifixion. Although a Gnostic-style cult centered around Brian might be interesting...
- A theory about Brian being the real messiah, and not Jesus, on the League's universe? That would be something.
- In this universe, it's probably more likely that Karl Glogauer is Jesus.
- Or the Caveman from "The Man from Earth." Or any other fictional version of Jesus.
- A statue in The Black Dossier seems to suggest that this world's equivalent of Christ is Ben-Hur.
- If either of these guesses are true...why aren't either of their names being used when Commandment number 3 gets broken?
- Technically, they would still say "Christ" either way, since "Christ" just means "anointed". It's possible that the phrase "Ben-Hur Christ!"/"Brian Christ!" just never really entered the popular lexicon in this world, since neither of them really have the same ring as "Jesus Christ!"
- Orlando actually does say "Jesus Christ" when she recognizes Alan in Century: 2009.
- The League-verse's Magi got it wrong (uh... twice). Or they just decided to choose Jesus over Brian because they didn't want to have to include Brian's mother in the New Testament (could you blame them?).
- Of course, if Brian is the Messiah, that would make Naughtius Maximus the Christian God...
- The League-verse's Dr. Caligari is the one from the hallucination, not the actual psychiatrist. And we see evidence that the cop purgatory from Ashes to Ashes exists in the League-verse, not as a separate dimension. So maybe the fictional counterpart thing isn't 100% strait forward.
Kingdom Hearts will get involved at some point.
I'd pay money to see this.- Maybe it will be something of fiction? I think Moore would like to (maybe) depict the kids playing video games of varied forms.
- Oh, but could you imagine the red tape to get that through? I mean, O'Neill was able to get Snow White into a couple of frames in the Blazing World but I'd imagine anything remotely later would be more like a Lawyer-Unfriendly Cameo. But if they could, maybe in the way the above Troper suggested, or in the inevitable space travel adventure, the allusions to the interconnectedness of those worlds their implications within this realm of fiction would be quite something.
The League will visit another planet.
- Moore has pretty much confirmed this...hopefully Ivalice will be the planet in question.
- A likely guess would be Mars, for a good poetic reason.
YouTube Poop will get involved at some point.
Referring to the above WMG Morshu will join the League.
It's unlikely, but if he did they'd never be short on rupees. The Big Brother government will make a comeback in some form.
When Norton warps into 2009 we see a symbol on a guard's shield that resembles a similar logo on the door of the Ministry of Love in Black Dossier. The difference this time round is that the world is more like the reality show than George Orwell's novel. The League will fail to stop the Moonchild - and this will be a good thing!
Anyone who's read Alan Moore's other work - Promethea in particular - knows that he's actually a very big fan of Crowley. Making him just a straight up villain seems far too simple a move for Moore to pull. In Promethea the "unending aeon" Crowley predicted brought down the world. Not the planet or humanity, but our destructive system of governments, bureaucracy, and everything that oppresses us. The Moonchild in this story might turn out to be the best thing to happen to the world, bringing down governments and allowing for pure freedom of imagination. So if the Moonchild is Harry Potter as others have said, Moore might be paying a huge compliment to J. K. Rowling!Or he may just make Potter out to be a bastard. We know that he's done worse to other beloved characters.
- You've definitely got a point there, though it should be noted that most of Crowley's analogues so far have been villains in their original texts, magnificent bastards perhaps, but stlll villains. Despite this I'm still inclined to agree with you and think that the resistance to the so-called Moonchild is Moore's way of demonstrating society's fear of change, which has caused culture to stagnate and become repressed.
- Semi-Jossed; Harry has basically been manipulated by Haddo all through his life in Century 2009, and is reminiscent of an incredibly spoilt brat with an insane level of power. However, Haddo's Moonchild isn't the apocalyptic being he predicted, but Haddo's decapitated head - taken by Harry - now predicts that Mina and Orlando will be the harbingers of a strange and terrible aeon in the Antichrist's place. So the Moonchild was meant to be pure evil, but wasn't quite all he was... Chalked up to be, to make a Bondian pun.
The UN unsuccessfully attempted to form an international League in The '90s.
We know that Captain Universe answers to the UN to a certain degree, so even though evidence of the original 1898 league has been all but erased, the concept of putting together a team of 'Special' individuals is still present and may have been used to bridge international relations. The league would be helmed by an aged Captain Universe, with potential members including an overpowered anime/manga character (Take your pick, but I'm thinking Goku; a delegate from Russia, a jaded product of the collapsed Soviet Union and an African warlord, in line with the League's history of taking in monsters. The league is of course disbanded, possibly following their failure to prevent 9/11 or its fictional stand-in. I'm not too sure about the specifics so any other suggestions are more than welcome.- Hum. Mac? Stealing the identity of Dr Sidney Zweibel (who went into Witness Protection under the alias Seth Brundle and tragically vanished), he'd probably be useful as a techie for such a group. While gaining degrees under human pseudonyms - Ian Malcolm, David Levinson - and doing some "vacationing", of course.
- Darkman. Fits with the "monster" thing.
- Anna Espinosa, during her... wild years. Somehow.
- Sagat, mauy thai expert and mercenary. He might have been persuaded to chip in in exchange for certain charges being forgotten.
- Marv, badass on par with Chuck Norris (though not nearly as powerful.)
- Jason Voorhees. The League aren't averse to taking in invisible rapists, rampaging monsters, or terrorists in submarines — they probably wouldn't lose much sleep over hiring a serial killer. With the right amount of brainwashing and/or mystical control, he'd be a good guy to have on their leash.
- An aging Dr. Daisuke Serizawa, who'd been presumed dead and in hiding since the 1950s, served as the team's science advisor, and used his experience with unusual creatures to help the team battle supernatural threats.
- Jason Scott, Trini Kwan, and Zack Taylor, a trio of teenagers hailing from Angel Grove, California, joined after the League discovered them at a peace conference in Switzerland. They used their martial art skills and past experience with monsters and robotics to help the League battle extraterrestrial threats. Later, Jason had to leave the League when someone was needed to take the Gold Ranger power.
- Black or the Minotaur, either one really. If the theorized League led (presumably) by Phileas Fogg is any example, preteens have been in Leagues so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch that the ultraviolent Black might have ended up in it. Of course though, The Minotaur is apparently a separate entity so it's just as likely (if not more so) that he'd be part of this group, the League has no problem recruiting monsters into their group...and the Minotaur is even tough enough to fight professional alien assassins, assassins who pretty much take down all the threats to Snake wherever else they go.
- Deadpool, it may seem unlikely but he is pretty much an all around powerhouse, not to mention a complete nutjob, since the government has no trouble recruiting loonies (see Hyde or Griffin) he'd fit right in...plus they'd probably involve superheroes at some point.
- Duke, while a good deal of his schemes have failed in the past someone like him would probably either make a good member or handler for the group (he's not that much better than Campion Bond after all.)
- All their cases come from tapes produced by Carl Kolchak, a Chicago reporter heavily involved with the supernatural.
Notes on companies, brands, and public figures
Moore has stated that Driveshaft and the actor Vince Chase would be alluded to. What other brands, bands and actors would 2009 feature? Would teenagers pirate the latest Kirk Lazarus movie on Aperture brand laptops? At night would they choose between take out at Krusty Burger or Mooby's? Do fans gather in The Metaverse to argue over the latest episode of Inspector Spacetime?- In this world, the fictional show Galaxy Quest is probably their equivalent of Star Trek.
- Likewise, Cosmic Wars is the equivalent of Star Wars.
- Kiss Saves Santa is a popular holiday classic.
- Wormhole X-Treme! is a classic sci-fi series in reruns that spawned two spin-offs, Wormhole: R'lyeh and Wormhole: Total Perspective Vortex.
- Angus McGyver worked as a consultant for the show for several years as a post-retirement job.
- Superhero comics are probably not that big a deal anymore, but with the anniversary of a few significant deaths coming up, studios are working on some big budget biopic films.
- Though many young people still have nostalgic memories of this particular cartoon series
- Pirate, military, romance, cowboy, horror, and Slice of Life comics are still being published. With pirate comics being the most popular.
- Based on a series of documents leaked around a decade ago about a weird division of MI6 in the Victorian period, which quite caught the public imagination at the time, a few writers have tried their own take on the idea. Of course, no-one really cares about those stories anymore.
- Ron Nasty was shot in 1980 by a deranged gunman named Holden Caulfield
- Which has spawned a conspiracy theory in which Nasty's murder was actually caused by novelist Richard Bauchman and US Presidents Lancelot R. Gilligrass and Johnny Cyclops.
- Some variations of the theory accuse Ben Ravencroft instead of Bauchman, sometimes connecting it to Ravencroft's alleged ties to black magic.
- Which has spawned a conspiracy theory in which Nasty's murder was actually caused by novelist Richard Bauchman and US Presidents Lancelot R. Gilligrass and Johnny Cyclops.
- The biggest progressive rock band was Pink Floyd, named for the nickname of its lead singer and songwriter Floyd "Pink" Pinkerton, who suffered from a temporary yet disturbing mental breakdown in 1980. According to press reports, he was in ill mental health and on drugs but pushed onstage, and he went on a wild anti-Semitic, racist, and homophobic rant while apparently hallucinating that he was in some Neo-Nazi rally.
- After a failed attempt at starring in a television show, Mia Wallace became one of Hollywood's biggest actresses with her breakout role in Kill Bill. From Dusk Till Dawn is also fictional.
- "Ayn Rand" was a pen name used by industrialist and philosopher Andrew Ryan, who created another identity so that he could publish books on his ideas while hiding out in Rapture. He figured that writing as a woman would make his philosophy seem less threatening.
- Nozz-a-la is an iconic American soft drink, known for its distinctive red and white logo with the curly script and its ad campaign with the polar bears. That soft drink company that sent representatives to the North Pole to meet Santa Claus was actually the Nozz-a-la Company.
- Big Brother is one of the most controversial TV shows in the world due to being named after the Totalitarian Government from the early 20th century.
- Which is really saying something when other contemporary shows include Celebrity Rape-an-Ape, Total Drama, Drawn Together, and Sex House.
- But that does not even come close to The Truman Show, where a human being lived in an artificial island society unaware that his life was a television program and everyone around him was an actor. People were split on the morality of this situation: many enjoyed the show and even felt comfort from it, while others felt that this was a form of enslavement. Regardless, the program changed television history and made the reality show popular beginning in the 1990s.
- Reality shows based around Paranormal Investigation remain popular despite the deaths of the Grave Encounters crew and the Spirit Seekers.
- Which is really saying something when other contemporary shows include Celebrity Rape-an-Ape, Total Drama, Drawn Together, and Sex House.
- GameaVision is a Video Game company known for it's infamous history during the Larrity-Era in the 80's.
- Kiddy Kastle is a theme park franchise and a known competitor of Thrillville and Fun-Fun Mountain.
- There is rumored to have been an episode of Deadliest Warrior that featured The Men in Black vs Torchwood Institute, but all records and taping of the episode were lost and the hosts and crew having no memories of the days during filming.
- Fix-It Felix Jr., Hero's Duty and Sugar Rash are the hottest video games on the market and Fix-it Felix Jr and Sergeant Calhoun is a popular pairing between the fans.
- Pretendo is also a huge video game company, whose games and consoles are popular all over the world.
- When Pretendo announced that they were closing the Ziishop channel, an apocalypse unfolded where people hunted down other people who had Zii's full ofZiiware games, although when he closed the channel the apocalypse ended immediately as people realized that they didn't mind playing several of those Ziiware games.
- C.C.'S Pizza is one of the hottest pizza joints worldwide and was founded by the alleged Great-Great-Great Granddaughter of American Revolution figure Cameron Clemons or C.C., who took a bullet for Washington during the Siege of Yorktown and 'died'.
- Presidential candidate Charles Palantine was almost killed by a crazed gunman named Travis Bickle.
- Journalist Raoul Duke was an avid critic of the Foster Administration.
- John Malkovich quit his acting career around 2000, but went on to become one of the most respected puppeteers in history.
- Randy "The Ram" Robinson was the most popular American professional wrestler in the history of the sport, and helped make pro-wrestling what it is today. His feud with the "The Ayatollah" is legendary among wrestling fans.
- Cream Sponge Para Litefoot sneakers were a popular brand of shoes among teenagers in the 1920s. They enjoyed an unexpected resurgence in the 1990s, though, when they received a Celebrity Endorsement from famed basketball player Sky Davis.
- Martin Luther King Junior, having been shot April 4th, 1968, went into a coma that lasted until October 27, 2000. He amassed a lot of great publicity, even a movie deal. Unfortunately, his comments on a talk show about "turning the other cheek to the enemy" caused uproar and him becoming a social pariah. He later tried to reinvigorate his image but he was so disgusted by modern black culture and the world turning on him, he gave out a huge rant and later left for Canada. This inspired many African-Americans to take up political activism and have improved on their culture. King later died in Vancouver, British Columbia at the age of 91.
- The Theory of Natural Selection was developed in the mid-19th century by naturalist Stephen Maturin, who developed his notes on species differentiation while studying the wildlife of the Galapagos Islands during the Napoleonic Wars, when he served as a ship's surgeon aboard HMS Surprise. Much to his dismay, his ideas on "survival of the fittest" were co-opted by many corporate leaders in the late 1800s, who adopted the philosophy of "Social Maturinism" to justify their ruthless tactics. After his death, his name was vilified by many fundamentalist Christians, who considered his scientific explanation for the origin of animal species to be heretical. This led to a much-publicized trial in the 1920s, when a schoolteacher in the small town of Hillsboro was arrested for teaching Maturin's theories, and lawyers Matthew Harrison Brady and Henry Drummond duked it out in the courtroom over his fate.
- A popular, non-vampire themed media to spork is the Sci-Fi novel Lord of the Swastika by famed pulp fiction writer and Hynkel supporter, A.E. Hilter.
- The direct-to-DVD horror film Cleaver developed a cult following in the late 2000s as a So Bad, It's Good classic.
- Many would even consider calling it a modern The Man From Pluto. A Cold War allegory flick that went down hill when the director, Walter L. Ford replaced the lead actor, Paul McNewman with his boyfriend, a stagehand named Gus Duncz.
- A Kentucky woman wrote a series of children's books called My Little Horsey.
- The books were later made into many animated series over many decades, the latest being Magical Pony Adventures
- Said writer once punched Vampirita author, Stefania Maddamne.
- Adrian Alexander Veidt, multi-billionaire mogul and former protege of Clark Wildman Junior, aka Doc Savage, has bought out the failing Vought-America and is currently giving the company a major facelift. No news has come out about what the new changes will mean or what the elderly "smartest man alive" is planning...
- The Disney Corporation, founded in the mid-20th century, is still one of the biggest forces in the entertainment industry; it was responsible for propagating many optimistic and happy retellings of supernatural events that happened in earlier centuries. The company was founded by a roughly human-sized Moreau sapien mouse hybrid from Eastern Europe who fled to America in the 1920s shortly before Hynkel's rise to power, narrowly avoiding a brutal genocide of intelligent mice carried out by cat hybrids loyal to Hynkel. The founder (who took on the Americanized name "Mickey") made it big in Hollywood as an actor, and later founded his own studio with the help of a few fellow Moreau sapien expatriates; he named it "Disney" as a subtle tribute to his old friend Yensid, an aging European sorcerer who gave him magic lessons in his youth.
- In the late 1950s, failing jingle composer David Seville discovered three descendants of Doctor Moreau's experiments. Taking advantage of their child-like love for him as a father, Seville turned the three into a music group, recycling his rejected songs with minor alterations. The trio become a hit thanks to their unique style of singing with their naturally high-pitched voices. All three eventually died in six or so years due to their natural lifespan and Seville found it easy to replace them, simply speeding up his singing and cancelling all live tours under the pretense of desire for more privacy. The trio's popularity eventually vanished and Seville continued with failed attempts at a comeback until his own death.
- Irish writer Stephen Dedalus is widely considered to be one of the most important novelists of the 20th century. In particular, his seminal modernist novel Metempsychosis is a vital classic of Western literature (though it's famously difficult to read).
- Conrad Birdie officially is listed as having died in 1977, but there have been plenty of rumors of his continued survival. Some of the most notable reports of Birdie's survival include him setting up a refuge for other disgruntled musicians to get vengeance on the recording industry, getting consigned to a Texas retirement home and dying fighting a mummy, going into hiding at a club underneath the town of Dimmsdale becoming an operative for the US government, getting turned into a vampire after his overdose, retiring to the town of Eerie and getting shrunk to a microscopic size. There are also theories that he was secretly an alien and/or ended up leaving Earth. Accounts of the Zombie War mention him fighting alongside the many survivor groups heading north to Canada. Which if any of these theories are true is unknown.
- The long-running comic series "Pink Dark Boy", written and drawn by Rohan Kishibe, has a huge American fanbase that has only grown larger with the release of translated editions for the first six arcs, as well as the excellent dubs of the anime adaptation (which as of this writing has covered arcs 1 to 5). Memes featuring Pink Dark Boy characters are often found on social media, to the point where "HOLY SHIT IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING PINK DARK BOY REFERENCE!?" is itself a meme.
- Despite the death of its founder (as detailed in The Black Dossier), Knight Industries continues to score huge government contracts. After swindling Caractacus Pott of his research, they put it towards designing increasingly absurd vehicles for various spy rings. Occasional public demonstrations of their products against competitors have ended in widespread devastation, which eventually inspired a new underground sport. Undoubtedly one of their more famous creations was the Knight Industries Two Thousand.
- One of the most famous philanthropists in American history is the fabulously wealthy Scottish-born steel magnate Scrooge McDuck. Among other things: he's famous for funding the construction of more than 2,000 public libraries throughout the world (known as the "McDuck libraries"), and he's the namesake of McDuck Hall in Liberty City and McDuck Pennybags University (co-founded with wealthy New York banker and former US Treasury Secretary Milburn Pennybags).
- The Klaxon Corporation, one of the largest oil companies in the United States, has been subject to scrutiny over its controversial ties to the US government ever since their CEO Noah Daniels became Vice President of the United States in the early 2000s. It's rumored that they illegally did business with Augusto Pinochet's regime, and they were accused of profiteering during the Iraq War. They were nearly brought down in the late 1970s after a group of German Marxist terrorists broke into their Los Angeles headquarters on Christmas Eve and attempted to steal evidence of their past illegal dealings, only to be narrowly foiled by aging NYPD detective Joe Leland (who was visiting his daughter Stephanie, a Klaxon employee). To cover up the truth, the US government secretly financed a popular action film in the late 1980s based on the events of that night, twisting the facts to leave out the company's morally questionable deeds (and to make the story more appropriate for a Hollywood blockbuster). Among other things: they portrayed Joe Leland as a younger man named "John McClane", they portrayed terrorist leader Anton Gruber as a slick thief named "Hans Gruber", they changed Klaxon's name to "The Nakatomi Corporation", and they insisted that the terrorists were just trying to steal bearer bonds.
- Ronald McDonald was unfairly fired from his mascot job for PR purposes. After all, it isn't his fault that he lives in a world where The Joker, Pennywise, Art the Clown, alien Klowns, the Cloyne, Jeffrey Hawk, Captain Spaulding, and Sweet Tooth go around butchering people.
- There are conspiracy theories that many companies are in fact secretly owned by a shadowy parent company, headed by a being known as "Black Hat" who in turn is rumored to be the embodiment of evil and source of everything wrong with the world. Supporting this is the fact that all the companies rumored to be under Black Hat's control have been sued for or alleged to perform grossly unethical practices. Particularly worrying, since for every one-industry establishment like Fazbear Entertainment or Playtime Co., there are companies like the Umbrella Corporation or Arasaka that have nearly bottomless resources.
Notes on Celebrity Scandals
- Beloved 80's children's TV host, Stanley Spadowski received flak during a stand up routine for calling a heckler a Mutie.
- London Tipton, Hotel heiress and star of the Reality Show, The Suite Life reached real infamy for the leaking of a video staring her and Todd St Mark.
- Many talk show hosts such as Larry Sanders took to calling her "London "Just the Tip" Tipton".
- She also had a rivalry with Teen Pop sensation Hannah Montana/Miley Stewart, daughter of Robby Ray and known for her infamous Hometown Breakdown.
- Many children and parents were shocked when upstart children's entertainer and ventriloquist Arthur Crandall of ''The Gabbo Show'' called the children watching his show "Little SOBs" on (unintended) live television. Recently he has been on a reality tv show were celebrities compete in a dance contest.
- Speaking Springfield celebrities, famous B Movie star and beloved Saturday Night Live alumni, Troy McClure was murdered by his wife, Selma Bouvier-McClure, who at the time was strung out on drugs given to her by a friend of McClure, Matthew Brock. Brock was later punched out by another of McClure's friends, movie critic Jay Sherman.
- 1981 saw Zazz Blammymatazz's lead singer, Leonard Rockstein AKA Doctor Rockso, caught by police officers having sexual relations with an under-aged girl.
- Newark-born actor Andrew "Large" Largeman was one of the most recognizable sitcom stars of the 2000's, but his career was unexpectedly derailed when investigative journalist Lois Lane exposed his connections to Newark mobster Tony Soprano, who helped him on the road to fame.
- The fans of the television series Supernatural were devastated when beloved actor, Misha Collins, was killed during filming of an episode along with several unexplained crew deaths. The network replaced Misha with Josh Birk of Nyte Blayde fame, leading to a more intense rivalry of the two show's fandom.
- Famed naturalist and former television host Nigel Thornberry had suffered a major stroke in 2013, leaving him wheelchair-bound. Though his daughter Eliza has taken over his television series, her and the rest of his family have done nothing but give him the love and support he deserves, as well as many fans and other professionals of his field.
- During the 2016 Cup of China figure skating event, world-famous skater and coach Victor Nikiforov tackled and kissed his protege, Japanese skater Yuri Katsuki, on live television, effectively outing both of them. This caused a fair bit of controversy, particularly within Russia, where the ruling Ultranationalist party used this as fuel for their ongoing attack on Nikiforov, who is known as an advocate for democracy and an outspoken critic of the Ultranationalist regime's authoritarianism and bigoted policies. The controversy did not stop the two men from getting engaged to each other, a move various LGBT+ communities around the world (and beyond it) approved of.
- Nikiforov would later respond to the revelation of fellow Olympian Suguru Kamoshida's abuse and rape of his students with uncharacteristic anger. In the interview where this came up, he called Kamoshida "a disgusting little maggot", said he had "spat on everything the Olympics stands for" and that "he deserves a lot more than what he got for everything he's done to those kids".
- Controversial jazz teacher Terence Fletcher was found guilty of abuse leading to the death of one of his students. The prosecution was spearheaded by the broken-hearted father of Fletcher's most talented student.
- In 2018, Olympian Suguru Kamoshida was stripped of his medals and found guilty of multiple counts of rape and sexual harassment after one of his victims testified against him following her suicide attempt. Kamoshida is one of the many high-profile individuals to be brought to justice for their sexual crimes in the wake of Fat Albert's fall from grace and the movement that it spawned.
The regions in the Pokémon franchise are the geologically warped remains of Japan
Personally, I blame a technologically top-heavy Laputa around the latter half of the 20th century. Would you trust those TV Geniuses with nuclear technology?- Being a technologically-advanced nation of geniuses, Laputa becomes a nuclear country in the twentieth century (assuming it's still around?).
- Alternatively, the Pokémon regions is in the Pacific Ocean between Japan and the United States.
The Moonchild will be an AI
Specifically, MULTIVAC, considering the themes of the work. Skynet, GlaDOS, the Machines, and HAL 9000 could be failed experiments by companies infiltrated by Haddo's followers after the repeated failures of the Rosemary's Baby strategy mentioned in Century:1969.The League will live through the beginning of the Sixth World
However the lineline syncs up, by January 2013, The Sixth World has begun. This, along with a bucketload of plans that have been footling away in the background, leads to vampires "coming out of the coffin", just in time to join a load of magical beings emerging. Haddo and Propero shout "Just as planned!" in unison, then sheepishly offer to buy each other a beer. This change to the social landscape resets the corporate dystopia that had been forming, but by the end of the 21st century it is right back where it was in 2008. That wasn't Mary Poppins at the end of Century...
... that was Thursday Next. The League didn't just visit Twin Peaks when in Oregon
It also visited Gravity Falls...after all, another town full of bizarre occurrences wouldn't miss their attention, but then again... The League once encountered Candle Jack
They barely managed to escape getting cau-- Anyone else wish to try their luck?
There will be another Legion of Doom at some point
The League has encountered one before, it's possible others existed as well. Prospero will become a villain.
When reading the newest volume I noticed some rather odd things concerning Prospero.- 1, he seemed to treat the League rather oddly, specifically as if he didn't need them anymore.
- 2, Haddo mentioned a 'strange and terrible new aeon' that Mina and Orlando heralded, and also mentioned a 'subtle game', John Subtle being an alias of Prospero.
- 3, He could have prevented the Antichrist the whole time, he mentioned scrying note Alan with Mina and Orlando when they faced the Antichrist, but if he could see the future then why didn't he just give direct instructions to the League back in the sixties? A lot of blood would have been saved otherwise.
Now as for what his motive would be I don't know, but in the Black Dossier it was said that the League was made to bridge the gap between mankind and the fairies, plus he also wanted the Shakespeare folio that said this...so maybe he's trying to bring back the faerie, but the question is...if that is his goal why would the faerie race's return be done with the amount of manipulation Prospero did? - Not to mention, Prospero seems to have some kind of agenda concerning the black Monoliths from 2001 in Minions of the Moon. If Vol. 4 really does take the League to outer space, Minions seems like a major setup for that in retrospect.
- Sort of confirmed. Values Dissonance is in play
The new Nautilus is a spaceship
Jack Nemo said that they might need his new Nautilus sooner due to the condition of the skies...so maybe that's what he meant, a way of Earth?- Confirmed in Tempest, though he decides to call it "the Character Ark"
The League will now consist of...
Mina, Orlando, Emma Night, the Gally-Wag, and Jack Nemo.- And it will be led by Hottie.
Many popular works of fiction take place in The Matrix
In is timeline, the war with Skynet ends with the machines withdrawing to build their own civilization in the Middle East, a massive, automated city called Zero-One. There are no humans for hundres of miles, save for the artificially grown ones used as batteries/cluster-computers by the machines and a rumored underground city. These cloned humans are fed an artificial reality to keep their minds active.- Presumably, a young scientist named Bolivar Trask had something to do with the technology that drives said machines' weapon systems (which is why they're still called "Sentinels" by the Zero-One period).
- X-Files is a strong candidate, since extraterestrials are commonplace in the League's reality. Maybe Mulder and Scully were actually "debugging" programs and didn't even know it. It would make sense that the machines limited their simulation to just Earth/Humans for a number of reasons, namely that it's just easier. So naturally, when a rogue program manifests as an alien/vampire/whatever, the system would try to cover it up. Just about any other alien conspiracy story would work as well.
- Remakes and reboots. For instance, if Golden Age Marvel/DC characters exist in the League universe, maybe the Marvel Cinematic Universe/Dark Knight Saga happened in the Matrix. The movies establish that the Matrix was revised to more accurately reflect human history. In the League universe, that would make it a pretty interesting place! Maybe all the other versions of those character existed in past "versions" of the Matrix.
Team Fortress 2 will be involved at some point
Moore's made a Deus Ex reference, plus mentions of the Mogul oil company and Tesco as portrayed in Time Trumpet are giving the impressions of corporations that secretly control more than we know...so this might not be out of impossibility...Hell, even Fu Manchu exists in TF2 as well. Charles Foster Kane will appear in the next story, and he wants the Pool of Immortality
In the description to the upcoming "Nemo: Heart of Ice," Pirate Jenny's voyage to the South Pole is financed by "An influential publishing tycoon, embarrassed by the theft of valuables belonging to a visiting Ugandan monarch." Other sources say that the opening scene of the story will take place in New York before going to Antarctica. Publishing tycoon in New York? Kane seems an obvious fit. Not sure who the Ugandan monarch could be, but the Pool of Kor is located in Uganda in the League 'verse. Perhaps Kane wants to delay his final word?- Confirmed, or at least the part about Kane.
- Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Moore was already planning this part back when The Black Dossier came out. The first time I read that one, I found myself wondering why the 1950s "M" didn't look anything like Orson Welles, since we're told that Harry Lime was one of his many alter-egos. But if he was already planning on adding another famous Orson Welles character in a future volume, it makes sense.
- The other explanation is that the Harry Lime in Black Dossier is not the American version played by Orson Welles, but the British version from the novel. I'm sure Moore chose this version because making Harry Lime M is too perfect to pass up, but it would just be too hard to explain how an American racketeer became the head of British Intelligence.
- OR... in the film The Third Man, the man who supposedly kills Harry Lime in the sewers of Vienna was the same person who played M first. Maybe Lime had his face altered to resemble his in order to infiltrate MI6? Wouldn't explain why Jimmy knows who he really is, or why he takes it so calmly, but still. Can't be a coincidence.
- Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Moore was already planning this part back when The Black Dossier came out. The first time I read that one, I found myself wondering why the 1950s "M" didn't look anything like Orson Welles, since we're told that Harry Lime was one of his many alter-egos. But if he was already planning on adding another famous Orson Welles character in a future volume, it makes sense.
It makes sense, then, that he'd spend so much time getting into skirmishes with Funny Animals: in the League universe, most talking anthropomorphic animals (probably including Bugs Bunny and company) were the result of Doctor Moreau's experiments. And who was singlehandedly responsible for the Molluscs' defeat in Volume 2? Doctor Moreau, of course. The poor guy wants vengeance on the "children" of the man that killed his creators.
The League verse's Charles Foster Kane will have something to do with the Molluscs
There must be some way of working Orson Welles' War of the Worlds broadcast into the League universe in some way. Now Charles Foster Kane is going to play a big role in Heart of Ice, so wouldn't he be the best guy to work it in? Maybe he's a history buff who's fascinated by the Mollusc invasion, and he'll do an "educational" radio broadcast about it that'll make everybody think they've returned. Or maybe he'll intentionally try to convince the world that they're back as part of some Evil Plan. Spin it any way you want. It could work.- Maybe, since 1938 was, of course, an election year, he faked a Martian invasion as a false flag operation in order to ensure the reelection of President Buzz Windrip.
- In the newsreel after his death, Kane was briefly shown standing beside Hynkel, so that's certainly plausible in-universe...
- It's more likely that Kane's radio stations tried to warn the US of an actual alien invasion at Grover's Mill, New Jersey, but was brainwashed into doubling back on their report and claiming that it was a radio show. All as a coverup for the arrival of the Red Lectroids
- The Molluscs return with a twisted plot to turn everyone into Scotsmen and win at Winbledon. Kane's announcements are instrumental in saving the world.
"Heart of Ice's" lauded technological adventurers could be...
The Shadow, G-8 and Tom Swift. Prof. Henry Jones Sr. could be the archaeological adviser.- Contrariwise, Doc Savage is among the adventurers...the era fits and he'd definitely be among the most famous of the 'technological adventurers.'
- Jossed: It's Tom Swyfte, Jack Wright, and Frank Reade, Jr.
The visiting Ugandan monarch could be...
A relative of Allan Quatermain's friend Umslopogaas? Either that or a very, very young Jaffe Joffer. At some point, Moore will cover anime
And it will be epic! Japan would likely be technologically advanced, the military would feature giant robots in lieu of tanks, and there will be loads of chicks.- And all of the technological advances will be the result of a constant state of martial law that begin back in the 1950s, when Tokyo was destroyed in an attack by a giant ocean-dwelling reptile.
- Furthermore, an accident that came about as a result of these technological advancements resulted in the creation of a number of espers, who disappeared in 2019. Japan also gained access to laser weaponry and a Kill Sat by this time.
- Also, crowd-shots in Japan will be full of unnamed cameos by various "plainclothes" and "mundane" characters from Japanese media who explicitly live in Japan, including from hentai.
- Even by his universe's standards, Japan is weird. Everybody has oversized eyes, bizarre hairstyles, vibrant natural hair, the ability to conjure big drops of water on their heads when feeling awkward, the ability to spawn an intersection of veins outside their skin when angry, and the female gender more often then not grows huge breasts when they hit puberty. Ordinary High-School Students turn out extraordinary, and tend to attract a lot of girls. People also tend to monologue a lot.
Notes on World War II
Some details on the Second World War are already covered in these books, but not much is really said (maybe Moore's saving it for a later novel?).- Howard Stark worked on the Manhattan Project.
- Dr Stangelove worked for HYDRA
- The European theater of the war ended when, according to official reports, a group of Jewish-American commandoes teamed up with a traitorous SS officer to kill Adenoid Hynkel and the top Nazi Party members in a burning movie theater (there are contradictory reports for why it was on fire, but the official story states it was caused by the explosives two of the commandoes had).
- This event happened, but it's unknown if the real Hynkel was killed, given his use of body doubles. He may have died fighting the B.P.R.D. in 1952, or in 1963 while fighting the Fantastic Four under the alias Hate-Monger, in a Somerset retirement home under the name Hyknel or just as history recorded — in 1945, in his bunker. After a terrifying rant about his Xbox Live account getting deleted.
- The original Hynkel was killed after a failed attempt to infiltrate America.
- He had also been recorded to having been killed by an american solider, B.J. Blazkowicz, despite Hynkel's advantage of being in an armored battle suit with quad-miniguns.
- Whatever happened to Hynkel, he would be surprisingly brought back in the 2010's. The resurrected Hynkel ultimately gained fame due to being mistaken for an impersonator and go on to reenter politics.
- The Justice Society of America were formed by Doctor Fate at the behest of the Blazing World so that they could subtly influence the course of the war. By directing the supers to punch the hell out of Nazi special agents, they prevented the special agents from tipping the balance of the war.
- Lobster Johnson punched out Gellert Grindlewald.
- A Race of giant lizards from Outer Space, appeared during the middle of the war and invaded. They were most historically known for their invasion of the Domination of Draka.
- A time traveling Nazi nearly won WWII, losing only due to the efforts of Freedom Force.
- The war was also ended with the help of the Cobra Unit.
- The famed adventurer Dr. Clark Savage Jr. was active in quite a few secret missions for the OSS, and served as a mentor, of sorts, to the archaeologist Henry Jones Jr., who was involved in several similar missions. Savage wound up with severe PTSD after one mission went wrong, leading to his retirement after the war.
- Rabbi Loew and the Golem of Prague both actively contributed to resistance efforts in Nazi-occupied Eastern Europe.
- The Battle of the Bulge was won with aide of one, "Steely Phil", who tricked the Nazi soldiers in the area into eating all of his tainted canned meat supplies.
- Among the many, many occult related activities Hynkel and the Nazis were involved with, the plans for an artificial vampire army (AKA Order #666) was created on orders of Hynkel and spearheaded by an unnamed Nazi Major. Two teenagers working for the Hellsing Organization (Walter C. Dornez and a mysterious teenaged girl named "Girlycard") were sent to stop this plan in Warsaw, Poland. "Girlycard" was also romantically involved with the teenage Princess Elizabeth, future Queen of England, particularly during the London Blitz.
- Mad Scientist Doctor Barbara Blight tried to sell nuclear bombs to Hynkel (who was in his 'Chinese Doctor' phase at the time) only to be thwarted by officers of the Time Police and both agents of ACME and VILE.
- A U.S. soldier gets killed for fouling up.
- In World War II, Adenoid Hynkel found a way to resurrect dinosaurs for use in the war effort.
- During the course of the war, the Nazi's continuously tried using ancient artifacts and advanced technology to help them win the war. Notable accounts include the many battles between Captain America and the Red Skull, the uncovering of the Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail, as well as the back and fourth conflicts between O.S.S. operative B.J. Blazkowicz and the S.S.' paranormal division, lead by the Nazi scientist Deathshead. One of the Nazis' experiments unearthed the so-called "Pillar Men", an ancient race of superhumans who preyed on vampires and humans alike. Nazi soldier Rudolf von Stroheim would sacrifice himself to aid in the defeat of the Pillar Man codenamed "Santana", and was rewarded for this heroic act by becoming the testbed for the Nazis' cybernetic technology. Stroheim would later fall in the battle of Stalingrad, and his body would never be found— though examination of early Soviet cybernetic technologies reveal several features similar to those of Stroheim's.
- No, this is Alan Moore who satirizes subtext and makes a mickey of everyone, here is what happened. Adenoid Hynkel told a division to find ancient artifacts and advanced technology. Captain America was actually Tyrone Slothrop of Gravity's Rainbow fame, who spent most of his time having sex rather than adventures. Indiana Jones is a Fifth Columnist traitor who is tasked by American corporations to destroy evidence of their pre-war collaboration with the Nazis under the guise of "finding" ancient artefacts. Indy also makes a killing on the black market selling art stolen by the Nazis, where he collaborates with Napoleon Solo and Harry Lime. As for Castle Wolfenstein, well it was an advanced Nazi test-chamber where subjects were made to move like rats in an endless maze, satirizing game railroading and of no wider consequence and importance.
- Or he'd just depict the super soldier program in a negative light.
- No, this is Alan Moore who satirizes subtext and makes a mickey of everyone, here is what happened. Adenoid Hynkel told a division to find ancient artifacts and advanced technology. Captain America was actually Tyrone Slothrop of Gravity's Rainbow fame, who spent most of his time having sex rather than adventures. Indiana Jones is a Fifth Columnist traitor who is tasked by American corporations to destroy evidence of their pre-war collaboration with the Nazis under the guise of "finding" ancient artefacts. Indy also makes a killing on the black market selling art stolen by the Nazis, where he collaborates with Napoleon Solo and Harry Lime. As for Castle Wolfenstein, well it was an advanced Nazi test-chamber where subjects were made to move like rats in an endless maze, satirizing game railroading and of no wider consequence and importance.
- There are a few alternate timelines that certain organizations have discovered where Hynkel won World War II. In one of these timelines, Hynkel created replicas of the Norse pantheon and developed advanced robotics technology. These advances allowed for them to vanquish the Allies. The Nazis next embarked on a Cold War struggle with Japan, which ended with their triumphin a brief war. However, overstretched forces and resistance efforts would compel Germany to withdraw their troops from Japan. The Nazis also found themselves vexed by their inability to hunt down dissident author and filmmaker Hawthorne Abdensen, whose works continued to inspire resistance to the Reich. Ultimately, the Reich's leadership was taken over by Johann Schmidt, who sought to restore global control by summoning an Eldritch Abomination that ultimately doomed this timeline's entire universe. Another timeline saw a three-way Cold War between a victorious Tomania, an Imperial Japanese Co-Prosperity Sphere, and an alliance of the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Greenland, and Iceland. This world's Tomania later fell into civil war following the death of Hynkel, with the factions briefly pausing to aid in the invasion of the SS-controlled territory of Burgundy, whose deranged leader sought to cause nuclear Armageddon.
- The former dual-empire of Zubrowka (sometimes disparagingly called Osterlich for "sticking its head in the sand" in the face of Tomanian annexation) was hit especially hard by the war. It came not long after the government had been more or less hijacked by a local fascist movement, the "Double Zig Zags".
- Hynkel came back from the dead during the 60s and the 80s and tried to start a new Third Reich both times, before being stopped by Danger 5
- During the war, Tomania was allied with the nation of Moronika. The alliance ended after the deaths of the (strangely similar to Hynkel) Moronikan dictator Moe Hailstone and his two chief lieutenants, Gallstone and Pebble, either after being eaten by lions or exploded by a bomb.
- Tomania's conquests during the war includes the nations of Freedonia, Syldavia (with aid from the neighboring facist state of Borduria), Arstotzka, and Pottsylvania. The first two were liberated by British and American forces while the latter two were liberated by the Soviets and were subsequently turned into communist puppet states.
- The Pan-German Union, in addition to Moronika and Borduria, also included Drusselstein, Ostania, Westalis, and Belka.
Notes on student massacres
- One of the most famous famous school shootings was the Carbine High massacre, which was done by Derik Harris and Derwin Klebold, a pair of Hynkel fanatics. This act having been influenced by the actions of another deranged student.
- The massacre also inspired a group of outcasts to try and torture their bullies to death.
- The was also controversy over a failed massacre planned by a student known as J.D. (who was also inspired by Derik and Derwin), as well as the events circling the death of a girl who was murdered in a prank.
- There was an incident where a lunchlady murdered the people bullying her daughter at school and made them into food, she got killed though...twice.
- Bullsworth Academy has one of the highest rates of bullying in America. But strangely no massacres have occurred there.
- Japan dealt with violence in schools by sending teenagers into deathmatches.
- This was partially prompted by an unsolved murder that occurred in the 1980's at Akademi High School.
- And who could forget the Infamous Black Prom incident in Chamberlain, Maine where a menstruating student massacred the students and faculty with her telekinesis.
- This also caused a lot of trouble for Mutant rights activists.
- Less well known, but no less tragic, are the shootings at Watt High School in Portland, and the infamous case of Kevin Katchadourian.
- In 1996, 1998, 2001 and 2010 the town of Woodsboro was plagued by a series of killings committed by people who called themselves "Ghostface".
- All of these pail in comparison to the most brutal and savage massacre in all the known history of ever! The Bowling Green Massacre!
Notes on The Zombie War
- There was a League sent to fight during the war. The members were S-Mart employee Ash Williams, Special Forces agent Jill Valentine, a man codenamed Tallahassee, Janet Darcy, descendent of famed zombie hunters Elizabeth Bennet and Fritzwilliam ''Mr'' Darcy, Green Beret Vietnam vet William Overbeck, former Nazi scientist Dr. Edward Richthofen and famed botanist Crazy Dave.
- Gave birth to The Rules for Zombie Survival handbook by a Mr. Columbus, Ohio.
- The infamous Big Brother season where all of the housemates and crew members either died or became zombies.
- During the War, survivors were urged to go north, where the extremely cold climate would freeze zombies. Many such parties were formed, with members ranging from everyday folk to magical girls, cavemen, and sapient dogs. Quite a few of them made it to the Canadian border, where the Mounties and their mecha aided their progress to the safe zone. Interviews of these survivor parties often contain descriptions of many wild and fanciful incidents, with the words "COOL IT" (as well as "COOL IT!!!" and "SAY IT DON'T SPRAY IT") being a constant across accounts.
- The Scandinavian front of the Zombie War experienced a return of magic, which sparked a revival of paganism and Norse religion.
- One infamous incident from the Zombie War's Korean front was the nightmarish journey of the last train out of Seoul as it headed to the safe zone of Busan. Only two survived the trip. The Korean strain of the zombie virus would later be revealed to have been genetically "reverse engineered" from the genetic code of a parasitic worm that caused an outbreak of zombies in the aftermath of the Imjin War. Said outbreak was documented by a court physician who also recorded the cure for the parasite.
- The Zombie War's outbreaks began thanks to the actions of the Umbrella Corporation (known alternatively in some countries as the Randall Corporation). The company for decades had carried out experiments with Solanum (often modeled on Nazi experiments) and had triggered small outbreaks in Wilamette, Colorado, parts of London in the early 20000's, the Banoi Archipelago, a petting zoo in Australia,Racoon City and the Japanese village of Hinamizawa— the last of which was the ancestor of several distinct strains of viruses. Umbrella created many different strains of the virus including Trioxin, DC2, the Rage virus, the Green Flu and the Stitched (believed to be a forerunner to the even more dangerous Crossed virus that threatened the world in 2008). During the zombie war, many previously undocumented strains were also unleashed including a variant that only infected children and one that spread through the air and caused anyone who died to reanimate. This one was the result of a cure for the common cold and a cure for cancer interacting in a negative way. Late in the war, some zombies managed to regain their emotions and humanity, which was crucial to bringing the war to its conclusion.
- When the Zombie War reached San Romero, California courtesy of an Emo Teen wanting revenge on bullies, it's last line of defense was a high school cheerleader who's one of the daughters of a pair of monster hunters who uses a chainsaw and her athletic skills against the undead while carrying the decapitated head of her boyfriend on her waist.
All Funny Animals are descended from Doctor Moreau's experiments.
- Funny Animals like Bugs Bunny or Western Animation/ickeyMouse have become more advanced and successful over the years to the point that the 20th century was a turning point for the Beast-Men or Moreau-Sapiens and their integration into human society.
- Some animals though came from Planet X, one of these being a small white dog whose parents came from the planet, and (similar to a certain showman) used his superior intelligence to play humans like kazoos. Earlier immigrants included the the inhabitants of the Okefenokee Swamp, who seeked to escape the crossfire of a war between cats and mice. Some of them though went off to start a settlement in the Lylat System.
- There were also reports of a portal in the Bermuda Triangle that leads to an Earth where humanoid animals exist instead of humans. A few beings from this realm migrated to Earth (largely by accident) such people include Howard the Duck.
- Might the League one day accept Danger Mouse into its ranks?
- Or alternatively there will be a League of Extraordinary Gentle-animals.
- Possibly jossed in the Almanac with independent Funny Animals like Pogo and the existance of Manor Farm.
- And double-Jossed by the animal-people of Megapatagonia, including Sirapian Musketeer Dogtanian.
Notes on the Future
- Human augmentation is a controversial issue in 2027, especially since some of the main ideas for it come from an alternate timeline where preforming alchemy on humans is a horrible taboo.
- Monday Night Combat is the favorite sport of the 31st Century, Mom Industries being one of its many sponsors.
- Eventually in the future, humanity was forced underground through a dreary series of events until led out of it by the God of Evolution and his brother.
- The United Nations reforms into a United Earth Federation. Its military arm is the Earth Defense Command.
- Next Sunday A.D., a mad scientist and his assistant would send two of their employees to their satellite to be guinea pigs in a strange experiment to discover the secrets behind the Blazing World hidden within movies. The satellite later vanished into the far edges of the universe and was not seen for quite some time. When it reappeared, the individuals that were on board the thing became aware of all fiction, their knowledge of reality on the same level as Andrew Norton.
- In the aftermath of the Blazing World invasion, global politics get increasingly strained.
- Urban populations skyrocketed, leading to an increase in poverty and homelessness. This was spurred on by the Votan Refugee Crisis, much decried by right-wing pundits. Authorities responded with massive urban redevelopment programs; "sanctuary districts" were established to house undesirables, based on haphazard trial runs done in the 80s; at least one Sanctuary District was patrolled by cybernetic police officers created by the Omni Consumer Goods Corporation.
- Eventually these had to be built upwards rather than out, leading to the earliest Mega-Blocs. Eccentric millionaires like Cosimo Spaceley took advantage of vertical space to build their own libertarian-totalitarian floating phalansteries, while another notable community resurrected Max Foster's hippie fascist, ageist policies by declaring everyone over the age of 30 an undesirable.
- After the invasion, America has been completely shaken, allowing the New Founding Fathers to take over. They then instate an annual Purge night, where crime is legal. They claim its to stimulate the economy, but in actuality, it's to Kill the Poor. After the New Founding Fathers are eventually overthrown, Nehemiah Scudder comes into power and turns America into the Republic of Gilead. Then when Gilead falls, Panem rises. Then when that regime falls and America restored, the environment finally dies from centuries of degradation, leading to the government turning the populace into foodstuffs in a desperate bid to maintain the food supply.
- World War III, also called the Atomic Wars broke out some time between 2050 and 2070 (precise dating is fuzzy). Quite a lot of land outside of sanctuary districts and Mega-Blocs became inhospitable. Major players at the time included the genetically augmented Colonel Green, and things got increasingly unstable on the home front in the wake of "Mind Control Revolts" over accusations of government behavioral control tactics. Outside the Mega-Blocs, life struggles in a surreal and barren landscape, inhabited by mutated freaks like Salad Fingers.
- Urban populations skyrocketed, leading to an increase in poverty and homelessness. This was spurred on by the Votan Refugee Crisis, much decried by right-wing pundits. Authorities responded with massive urban redevelopment programs; "sanctuary districts" were established to house undesirables, based on haphazard trial runs done in the 80s; at least one Sanctuary District was patrolled by cybernetic police officers created by the Omni Consumer Goods Corporation.
- Following first contact with the Vulcans, Earth made an alliance of desperation with Lamarr the First of Mars. Their hopes were that they would be on even enough keel with the Vulcans not to be totally at the mercy of their new interstellar neighbors. This led to the formation of a Galactic Federation between the two superpowers, which some denounced as totalitarian and fascist.
- Due to lightened restrictions on corporations to help speed along recovery efforts following the Blazing World invasion, several companies banded together to swallow up competition and make megacorporations. Splitting up the resources of the Stoneheart Group following the head’s exposure in trying to assist in a vampire takeover, the Tyrell and Weyland-Yutani corporations began to advance robotics using the blueprints of C.A Rotwang and Unmatoro Tenma’s creations as a base. They commercialized the use of Replicant androids as slave labor while producing YoRHa units to Earth militaries who would eventually help to overthrow Lamarr the First.
- After natural resources ran out, humanity resorted to more drastic and ethically dubious means. The Resources Development Administration invaded the moon Pandora for Unobtanium, while the Lobotomy Corporation harvested energy from SCPs the Foundation was willing to donate.
- Despite the efforts of countless heroes to lead humanity on a better path, in the end, human evil will win out in the 42nd Millennium and lead to the the establishment of the brutal and theocratic Imperium of Man, the latest in a long line of intergalactic regimes like the Corrino Empire and Galactic Empires.