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This is a thread for checking up on pages for works that have not been released yet, to make sure that they are not straying into rampant speculation or posting crazy behind the scenes spoilers. You can bring both individual examples or entire pages to attention here.

In extreme cases, any page can be locked, but hopefully that won't be necessary.

(As these pages often are hit with zero-context examples and shoehorning as well, all four - speculation, spoilers, ZCEs, and shoehorning may get addressed simultaneously.)

The policy governing this effort is Creating A Work Page For An Unreleased Work. Cleanup is being tracked using the Unreleased Works sandbox.

All pages for unreleased works should include a %% comment at the top of the page, confirming the policy and linking to this thread and the Administrivia page. It doesn't have to be exactly the same as the example provided here, but this provides a template to work with.

     Template for the unreleased work comment 
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%% Speculative troping is not allowed on TV Tropes.
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%% We trope what DOES happen in works, not what MIGHT happen or is LIKELY to happen.
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%% For unreleased works where all we have to go on is advertising and other supplemental materials, we have some detailed guidelines, which can be found at Administrivia/CreatingAWorkPageForAnUnreleasedWork.
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%% NOTE - these rules also mean that unreleased works should only have one page image, and that image should NOT be changed again until the work is released.
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%% If you have questions, please consult the Unreleased Work Speculation Cleanup thread at https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15514631230A64268600
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%% Thank you.
%%

Edited by Mrph1 on Feb 10th 2024 at 8:16:52 PM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#2076: Jun 15th 2020 at 9:17:27 AM

Way too premature. Cut it.

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Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#2077: Jun 18th 2020 at 7:48:49 AM

Just found a page for Promising Young Woman, a film which premiered at the Sundance in January, but it's release to the general public in April was cancelled.

Most of the tropes on the page are Zero-Context Examples.

Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I know
#2078: Jun 18th 2020 at 11:59:25 AM

No one minds if I send Fate: The Winx Saga to the cut list.

Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I know
AzureOwl from Lima, Peru Since: May, 2009
#2080: Jun 22nd 2020 at 8:46:34 PM

Apple TV+ has released a trailer for their upcoming adaptation of Isaac Asimov's Foundation Series:

https://youtu.be/xgbPSA94Rqg

It also indicates that the release date is 2021.

Is it appropriate to create a page for the work, including only tropes present in the trailer?

Edited by AzureOwl on Jun 22nd 2020 at 10:48:59 AM

Albert3105 Since: Jun, 2013
#2081: Jun 22nd 2020 at 11:41:48 PM

The way the trailer looks, it looks like they're in the editing stage, so based on completeness it shouldn't be too shabby. The dislike ratio (being 1/4 dislikes) is alarmingly high though.

Edited by Albert3105 on Jun 22nd 2020 at 2:43:14 PM

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#2082: Jun 27th 2020 at 9:35:22 AM

Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon 2 was announced recently, and it's being troped on the original game's page. It's supposed to be released "soon" but that's fairly vague.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I know
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2084: Jul 14th 2020 at 1:30:43 PM

It doesn't look like it has any pre-release materials, even with a release date.

ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
#2085: Jul 14th 2020 at 5:02:59 PM

[up][up] That page can be cut since the movie doesn't have any pre-release materials, teaser, or trailer.

masterrobert Since: Dec, 2018
#2086: Jul 27th 2020 at 6:10:14 AM

When should we add X-Men Film Series: New Mutants?

Edited by masterrobert on Jul 27th 2020 at 6:10:15 AM

RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#2087: Jul 27th 2020 at 9:48:48 AM

The only reason it doesn't exist is that no one cares to make it. Just remember that every character needs to have at least one valid trope to have a header/folder and every trope requires a citation from released material.

Zuxtron Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel from Node 03 (On A Trope Odyssey)
#2088: Jul 29th 2020 at 2:29:30 PM

I created Sandbox.Atelier Ryza 2. I'm not moving it to the Video Game namespace yet because I can't think of enough context for three tropes yet, but does what I have so far look acceptable? I'd also appreciate it if someone could help me find at least one more trope in the trailers (I think I see Horse of a Different Color in the Japanese trailer, but I can't understand what it's saying so I can't come up with good context).

Edited by Zuxtron on Jul 29th 2020 at 5:31:33 AM

chicagomel from Dinotopia Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#2089: Aug 6th 2020 at 7:21:36 PM

So when can Jurassic World Dominion be put back? We’re getting bits of information now. Are we waiting for the trailer?

Fly High, Seek Peace
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2090: Aug 6th 2020 at 7:22:49 PM

As a film, it has to have both release scheduling and pre-release materials before it can have a page.

PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#2091: Aug 8th 2020 at 10:53:00 PM

Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis has a page despite not having a concrete release date. Only 2021.

There's only two videos of it so far, one reveal and one follow up video to that reveal.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Aug 8th 2020 at 2:53:12 PM

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#2092: Aug 20th 2020 at 11:57:58 PM

~Azure Owl, I don't think we have met the release date qualification yet (year but no season), but here's a draft of the tropes I've collected already:

    For size 

The dislike ratio (being 1/4 dislikes) is alarmingly high though.
People saying They Changed It, Now It Sucks!, I assume. The bar for "good Asimov adaptation" is a lot lower than people seem to think. Hard-to-Adapt Work was in effect five decades ago.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I know
#2093: Aug 22nd 2020 at 5:13:05 PM

The Suicide Squad now has promotional material but the page is already full of speculation/ word of god.

BZL8 Yes. from Somewhere Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Yes.
Albert3105 Since: Jun, 2013
#2095: Aug 23rd 2020 at 5:39:38 PM

[up][up][up] We might need to keep watch for bashers for a little while due to the almost-immediate vocal hatedom, that's what I mean.

Edited by Albert3105 on Aug 23rd 2020 at 8:40:30 AM

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#2096: Aug 25th 2020 at 6:49:46 PM

This was added to The Batman (2021), can a work have a Signature Scene if the work hasn't been released yet?:

  • Signature Scene: From the DC FanDome trailer, Batman delivering a single-take No-Holds-Barred Beatdown to one of what appears to be a gang of Joker mooks, topped with a couple of blows after the mook has gone down.

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#2097: Aug 26th 2020 at 12:19:26 AM

[up] Signature Scene should require the work to be released.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#2098: Aug 26th 2020 at 1:54:53 AM

[up][up][up] That makes sense.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Albert3105 Since: Jun, 2013
#2099: Aug 26th 2020 at 5:06:32 PM

Another upcoming work I'm extremely wary of watching over a page for would be the Inuyasha Spin-Offspring sequel Yashahime, since its parent franchise has had shipping wars so horrific that it's one of the very few franchises to have a subpage locked permanently over shipping (namely DieForOurShip.Inu Yasha).

And already the reveal of a certain male character having a kid sparked the shipping wars once again.

Edited by Albert3105 on Aug 26th 2020 at 8:07:52 AM

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#2100: Aug 26th 2020 at 5:19:02 PM

I'm so hyped for that show.... and basically avoiding any fans who aren't already my friends. sad

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

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