Is this an example?

It's also misuse as some of those characters have other weaknesses and all of them are capable of taking some damage. The closest Pokémon to truly having an Achilles' Heel would be Shedinja, but even it has multiple type weaknesses.

Edited by mightymewtron on Nov 3rd 2020 at 8:11:24 AM

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Listing every elemental weakness as an Achilles' Heel is misuse of the trope.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

Zapped them all except for a couple, namely Wobuffet, Shedinja, Aegislash and Mimikyu (still iffy examples pertaining to their abilities, though).

"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

Interestingly, Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors is listed as a subtrope of Achilles' Heel, which could explain the confusion here. God, no, it's not for the character folders, more suited for the franchise page or at least the work pages.

Edited by mightymewtron on Nov 3rd 2020 at 9:35:35 AM

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I'd rather not have someone post Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors on every single folder, it's too omnipresent in this franchise.

"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

I was about to ask if the trope could apply to Pokemon who have only one elemental weakness, like Scizor or Spiritomb... but then the trope could be applied to several electric-types. Perhaps keeping it down to specialized cases will do.

Edited by Notsofriendly on Nov 3rd 2020 at 9:33:38 AM

Semantic Superpower's first Fan Works entry isn't Semantic, is it?

It's all clearly sound / vibration?

Edited by Malady on Nov 3rd 2020 at 6:55:17 AM

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Yeah, that's not semantic, that's Heart Is an Awesome Power.

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This feels like something, but I'm not sure it's Beware of Hitchhiking Ghosts:

• Mystery Skulls Animated: Rooster accidentally hits Lewis towards the end of "Freaking Out" after he walked into the road; Rooster quickly flees when his steering wheel starts emitting fire, and he and Lil' Sunny become absolutely terrified as Lewis transforms it into his own ride and takes off without him.

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Older Hero vs. Younger Villain has this:

• Tangled: The Series has a 18-19 year old Rapunzel (or actually pretty much everyone in Corona) against a 14 year old Varian who has just made a Face–Heel Turn.

Do I get it right that the trope requires something more than just a little age gap?

From Trivia.Devil May Cry:

• Funny Character, Boring Actor: A very well-known inversion. Vergil is famously the Blue Oni of the Sons of Sparda when compared to his more flamboyant and showy twin Dante: stoic, icy and a master of control and precision. His VA Daniel Southworth, on the other hand, is an irrepressible joker who can more than keep up with Reuben Langdon and invariably brings the house down at fan conventions with his anecdotes.

Would this fit better into Mean Character, Nice Actor instead?

With Great Power, Comes Great Motivation

Can't go there because Mean Character, Nice Actor is In Universe Examples Only nowadays.

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Just remove it; you can't play with trivia items.

This feels like something that should also be made IUEO anyway...

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Alright, I removed it.

With Great Power, Comes Great Motivation

Anti-Love Song has this:

• Apocalyptica's "Anything But Love" doesn't even pretend for a moment to be a love song. lyrically the song details a female character talking to the man who is going to rape her. She essentially tells him to be as cruel and evil as he wants ("Go on infect me, go on and scare me to death.") and make sure she is traumatized and scared. Because she'd rather that than have him love her.

This very entry says that "Anything But Love" doesn't even pretend to be a love song. The lyrics and the singing and the music are depressing, and it is about, well, anything but love, so I doubt it fits. But then, to be honest, I don't understand this trope: the description seems to be about subverted Silly Love Songs but many examples I've seen are, basically, Love Hurts songs.

Edit:

Edited by Tenebrika on Nov 5th 2020 at 12:33:18 AM

re: me adding Achilles' Heel on Pokemon pages

Sorry about that. The trope had been applied sporadically throughout all the pokemon folders in regards to 4x weaknesses prior to my spree, I went on said spree for consistency's sake, despite my own misgivings whether it was appropriate in the first place. Removing all such uses works just as well for that purpose.

Found this on The Incredibles:

• Informed Wrongness: Violet is made out to be a Bratty Teenage Daughter for hating the fact that she isn't considered "normal" amongst her peers. Dash is also made out to be a brat since he wasn't allowed to participate in sports due to his powers, which has him act out in school due to his frustration. Sometimes too much uniqueness can be a hurdle for children, as they may have issues adapting and blending in with others. They aren't completely wrong to feel resentful of their situation, yet are both expected to suck up the issues they had with it. Nobody is there to support their points.

I'm pretty sure they're meant to be as sympathetic as the parents on that points. Considering Dash does get to be in sports at the end, it suggests that his parents are the ones in the wrong for not letting him compete with other kids.

Edited by mightymewtron on Nov 5th 2020 at 10:45:58 AM

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From Bowdlerise.Video Games, would this be Implied Teen Pregnancy? Otherwise, why would this be needed in a school?

Presumably the titular school is a highschool?

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Given that the censors wouldn't allow it, that's the most plausible implication.

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Dwarf Fortress's "loyalty cascade" bug: Divided We Fall, or some other infighting trope?

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I'm not sure a recent trope added to a page really counts as an example. Would like to get some feedback before I cut it.

The character "The Director" in the Disney animated film Bolt is voiced by James Lipton (of Inside the Actors Studio fame). The character he voices is pretentious, waaaay over the top hammy, and a prima donna perfectionist.

Someone just added the trope Adam Westing to the page, listing Lipton as an example. I've seen some of the ITAS episodes. My impression of him here is that of being well prepared and fully researched on his guests, as well as being fawningly attentive to them. Pretentious and hammy and prima donna are not words I'd use to describe his public persona.

It's possible my viewing experience of him is limited and that he is in fact known to be hammy and pretentious. Given what I've seen, though, I'm not buying.

Would like to have some folks weigh in on this before I remove it. Thanks!

Edited by BoltDMC on Nov 7th 2020 at 5:07:55 AM

A JJBA example for Mascot Villain

• Fountain of Memes Dio Brando from Jojos Bizarre Adventure. If there's ever going to be a Shout-Out to the series, it's usually going to involve either Jotaro or Dio.

First of all, I don't think DIO being a fountain of memes is at all relevant to anything. Second, it doesn't actually do a good job of explaining how he's a mascot. Is he heavily featured in advertising or merchandise?

I added this to YMMV.Night In The Woods:

• They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Generally, the mundane escapades of Mae and co, as well as the obstacles each of them face should mix well with the Cosmic Horror story the game is trying to build up. Instead, it feels like two tonally completely different games were tacked together, only sharing the visual style and characters, leaving many frustrated that these two stories which work perfectly fine by themselves never feel complete. And considering what happened behind the scenes, it's not surprising why that is...

Most of it is already addressed in Disappointing Last Level and it really sounds like complaining. Nobody bothered to remove it yet, so should it be cut or not?

Is this example from Adaptational Nice Guy being used correctly, because I'm not sure you can have "retroactive" Adaptation examples:

• A retroactive case as it came out before Identity Crisis and to be expected, anyway, given the series's nature as a kid's show, but Dr. Light isn't a rapist.

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Is this example from Tenet being used correctly as it seems to cover the "incomprehensible" aspect but not the "True Art" part?:

• True Art Is Incomprehensible: Let's just say that if you thought Inception was a hell of a puzzle to decipher, good luck getting through this one with just a single viewing. Articles and videos on the movie should probably help, too, if that's not enough.

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And is this example from The Haunting of Bly Manor being used correctly as Contested Sequel is supposed to be where the audience opinion is divided on the quality of a sequel, whereas this example seems to be mainly negative and saying the show is mostly flawed inspite of it's positive qualities - so would fit better under Sequelitis?:

• Contested Sequel: While many viewers found it well-acted, well-shot and entertaining, Bly Manor is also seen as inferior to its predecessor; many viewers felt it wasn't nearly as scary, the pacing is sluggish and the plot is often presented in a muddled, overly-complicated manner (especially with all the flashbacks). As some have pointed out, it almost seems inevitable because The Haunting of Hill House set the bar so high.