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- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Sounds like triple agent then? I'm not sure if that's enough for the Double Reverse Quadruple Agent trope.
Which is why I'm uncertain which one a triple agent falls under.
From Ambiguous Disorder:
- She-Ra and the Princesses of Power: Entrapta was an example until Word of God explicitly confirmed her to be autistic◊.
It's a ZCE for one.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessAlso, if the creator intended a specific real life disorder, it's no longer ambiguous.
- If someone was to count up all the "Batkids" you'd realize that Batman has quite a few "kids." In Post-Crisis, Pre-New 52 continuity, Batman has three adopted sons (Dick, Jason, and Tim), one adopted daughter (Cassandra) and one biological son (Damian). If you count alternate universes, Bruce also has a biological daughter, Helena, who predates all of the above except for Dick. If you count spin-offs, Bruce also two biological sons via genetic theft, Terry and Matt McGinnis. If you count those vigilantes he's acted as a Parental Substitute to but is not biologically or legally related to, there's Barbara Gordon, Stephanie Brown, Helena Bertinelli, Duke Thomas, Jean-Paul Valley, Luke Fox, and Harper Row.
I found this on Massive Numbered Siblings. Seems like a Square Peg, Round Trope, may I delete? Only counting the four Robins, is not a big deal, but the other examples is stretching a lot.
Edited by Tomodachi on Dec 9th 2019 at 11:05:16 AM
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.Agree. The trope is about big households. Most of those listed characters don't live together; it's not clear from the example whether they even know each other.
Does it count as Nature Tinkling if a character pees on an indoor potted plant?
Edited by Twiddler on Dec 9th 2019 at 11:11:00 AM
So does anyone know if a triple agent falls under a Double Agent or a Double Reverse Quadruple Agent trope.
From YMMV.Path Of Exile:
- Woolseyism: The Spanish translation is notorious for two things:
- Unlike what is almost industry-standard regarding Spanish translations, the game is translated to Mexican Spanish, despite the original dialogue is spoken and written into British English, instead of using the European dialect, which it would be more fitting in this particular case.note
- Some thick UK accents, such as Irish or Cockney, are translated into Mexico City or Norteño (Northener, mostly from Monterrey) accents, and sometimes, even Sinaloa/Sonora accents (the accents stereotypically used by criminals from drug cartels from the Mexican Northwest states) are used as well. This is especially baffling when you hear a pirate with a thick, stereotypical British accent, being translated in the same way as a Mexican sicario. On the other hand, outside some ocassional slang, the Spanish translation avoids using too many Mexico-specific terminology and tries to keep as neutral as possible.
I thought this trope was about making positive changes. The way it's worded, it sounds more like "Blind Idiot" Translation or some other complainy trope. I don't speak Spanish, so I have no first-hand experience with the translation, but I'm not sure the person who wrote this example knows what the trope means.
I dont know the series that well, but that trope is use for positive examples. I say removed.
I just recently added an example to Cruel and Unusual Death that might not go there. The trope after all is called 'cruel and unusual death' not 'cruel and unusual execution'. The example I added definitely fit the first qualifier for the trope, being a death that is decidedly unusual and disgusting. However it does not fit the trope according to the examples as all the examples are forms of execution. I'm not entirely sure my example fits and I only just realized this after I added it.
Can a Useless Item be part of a Chain of Deals? Could it be sold?
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Would a wrestler who gets Booed by fans despite being a faced (good) then turns heel (bad guy) because of them count as Then Let Me Be Evil.
Edited by WhirlRX on Dec 10th 2019 at 7:18:38 AM
Would what count?
I re wrote it to hopefully be more clearer.
Questions raised on the Edit Locked Pages thread that need some help to confirm before they can be amended on the relevant locked page.
Page: Characters.RWBY Team RWBY Character: Ruby Rose
Tropes in question: Does Sinister Scythe apply? It's currently commented out in her character section as a ZCE. The problem with the character is that she's cheerful, optimistic and friendly. So, she's not directly 'sinister'. However, she's extremely formidable in battle with the weapon (a combination of scythe and sniper rifle) — her weapon has been described by the Big Good as one of the most dangerous weapons ever designed, and that she is one of only two people he's ever met who is capable of wielding the weapon with that level of skill (the other wielder is her uncle and mentor, who easily meets the trope because his themes and personality are much darker than hers).
Character: Yang Xiao Long
- Blinded by Rage: When Adam stabs Blake and causes her to scream in pain late in Volume 3, Yang flies into a blind rage and recklessly charges at him. This costs her her right arm.
The trope description appears to be written from the perspective of the person who is inciting someone to rage rather than from the perspective of the person who is blinded by rage. At the moment, it's been troped under Yang (the person who is enraged).
The context of the scene is this: at this stage of the show, Yang's typical MO is to become enraged, which triggers her superpower (super-strength), and then charge recklessly into battle. She does this in all circumstances, from true fights to tournament matches.
In this scene, Adam (abusive ex-boyfriend) has Blake pinned to the ground, is on the verge of stabbing her and tells her he'll destroy everything she loves. Yang appears on scene, looking for Blake. Adam sees Blake begin to panic at Yang's arrival, and decides he'll start by targeting Yang. He then stabs Blake in the stomach. Yang spots Adam (who is a stranger to her at this point) stabbing Blake, is enraged to tears and charges recklessly at him. He easily one-shots her.
The question is: did Adam stab Blake because he was going to anyway and then take advantage of Yang's fundamental battle flaw. If so, the trope's not in play. Or did he stab Blake to enrage Yang, in which case, the trope applies.
If the trope applies, should it be troped under Adam or Yang? Also, does the entry need more context?
Edited by Wyldchyld on Dec 10th 2019 at 1:51:03 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.I'd say Sinister Scythe doesn't apply to Ruby.
This is on ExecutiveMeddling.Video Games:
- From Ocarina of Time on, the developers have tried to include more complex and detailed stories in Zelda games, only to be forced to backpedal and simplify the plot, even excluding major plot points in some cases that were only elaborated on through an official timeline. Link's Crossbow Training is probably the most tragic example, as the developers wanted to produce a full-fledged, epic Zelda game that would be to Twilight Princess what Majora's Mask is to Ocarina of Time, but Miyamoto forbid them from including a story of any sort, more than two boss fights, or large and immersive stages, resulting in a short motion control game with little else to show for it.
Sinister Scythe might work if the example focuses on the design choice, e.g. how it goes with her overall aesthetic.
There's a chance the person adding the Blinded by Rage example didn't know about the "deliberately enraging someone" part of the trope — I certainly wouldn't have known about it from the trope name alone.
I'm not sure this is the right place to post this, but I'm not experienced with the forums so I thought it was worth just throwing out there. I'm not sure about the right way to go about this sort of thing.
I imagine this image I found on reddit, of a twitter post: [1]◊ is already a trope, but I wanted to confirm/ if its not/ work one out.
EDIT: I realized I should have posted the actual tweet. [2] That's a link the the tweet, its by Ryan George, it says: "If a movie character gets shot HERE, they're required to keep it to themselves for a while. Later in the movie, they must open their shirt/jacket revealing an alarming amount of blood— followed by another character saying "you're hurt!" This is law." Then it has a picture of a spot on a person.
Similar to other tropes where people hide life-threatening wounds until after the battle scene, and then, when it comes to attention, say "its not really that bad"
Edited by AnonymityThemself on Dec 11th 2019 at 7:54:09 PM
Repetition is a good teacher. Repetition is a good teacher. — "What am I not going to see?" Is just as important as "what am I seeing?".Clothing-Concealed Injury. There's probably some other trope concerning injury location, but I don't know of a specific one. See Injury Tropes for a bunch of 'em. I Can Still Fight!, I Ain't Got Time to Bleed, or Real Men Get Shot might also be involved.
For the future, Trope Finder is the place to post this sort of thing. There's a link to it in the sidebar.
Edited by Twiddler on Dec 12th 2019 at 2:32:57 AM
Pokémon Anime - Ash and Pikachu
- Out-of-Character Moment:
- In "Turning Over a New Bayleef," Ash angrily yells at his Bayleef because he got tired of it tackling him, which results in the poor thing running away feeling unwanted.
- In "Brave The Wave," Ash acts like a Sore Loser after losing to Brawly and angrily tells Brock to shut up when the latter tries to give him advice.
I believe this is Jerkass Ball instead as we're given reason for his actions and OOC is about unexplained actions (or should be under sub-trope like Ball if applicable). Cut?
Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Dec 12th 2019 at 1:27:52 AM
Super Mario Maker 2 is listed in the work page as a Mission-Pack Sequel. The game has too many additions to be considered this to its predecessor: a full-fledged story mode, many more editing features, multiplayer, a new game style plus four new level themes, and a different online run (Endless Challenge, instead of the original's 100-Mario Challenge). That's way more than what the example claims ("it's more of an update to the first game", even though none of the updates made to the original game were as significant as what this game added). I'm tempted to remove the example, but I'm consulting here first just in case.
Edited by MyFinalEdits on Dec 12th 2019 at 9:21:44 AM
135 - 169 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300Seconded. It's a full sequel. Cut.
Thirded. Cut.
They are ranking members of the military. So, spy isn't their actual profession.