Is this an example?

From Inhumans vs. X-Men

The following entry was removed, claiming it needed Word of God

• Author's Saving Throw: Attempted but utterly failed by Charles Soule's X-Position. Fan response to Soule's answers to pertinent questions (IE the disconnect between "Cyclops'" actual actions in Death of X and the way he's perceived by people such as Storm who were actually there) has overwhelmingly ranged from disbelief to outright ridicule. In particular, Soule comparing the Terrigen Cloud to a peanut allergy has drawn scathing criticism from readers.

But the entry itself links to an interview with Charles Soule, the actual writer of the event — hence I claim that's valid as Word of God, and thus said entry should not have been deleted.

Edited by Klaudandus on Jan 20th 2023 at 9:10:26 AM

I agree that Author's Saving Throw entry was unfairly deleted since it did have Word of God.

~selkies and re: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13543987200A54420100&page=1017#comment-25421.

I was saying that The Power of Acting includes "acting in a flick, stage, etc. being a power". From what I can gather, the difference between it and Master Actor is that the latter involves acting to fool others. However, The Power of Acting involves acting in something like a film.

As for Touma, I feel he can be a Master Actor assuming he meets the previously mentioned requirement. Also, sorry I wasn't clear earlier.

I found this on YMMV.She Hulk Attorney At Law:

• Bile Fascination: Some people not too enthusiastic about the series just tuned in to see if the CGI was really as bad as the trailers made it look.

Does this really fit the trope? It might but I want some more opinions?

According to the example text at least, they are indeed watching it because they expect it to be bad, which is what Bile Fascination is.

I mean according to the page it's about "when you hear a work is bad" and watch it for that and not just simply watching it because you think it will be bad. Unless I am missing something and if I am okay, but I think it could at least do with a rewrite.

Edited by Bullman on Jan 20th 2023 at 10:52:53 AM

Isn't that a Distinction Without a Difference?

I don't think so personally. Like watching because you think something might be bad based off of the trailer and watching because you heard that something is the worst thing ever, is two very different things. Though that could just be my opinion on it and I am cool with leaving it alone.

Edited by Bullman on Jan 20th 2023 at 10:56:22 AM

That sounds more like Just Here for Godzilla than Bile Fascination to me.

Eh, JHFG is when you want to consume something just for your favorite part of it, like watching a show with some trains in it for the trains themselves, disregarding the plot. Bile Fascination is the opposite; you wanna see how terrible a work is because it's considered bad.

I meant it sounds closer to it, sorry I wasn't clear.

So I've been wondering about this for a while. I have an anthology of Alternate History stories (...loosely defined in some cases) that was edited by Harry Turtledove, with a cover that features Abraham Lincoln in front of the Soviet Union's flag and Adolf Hitler in front of the Confederate States of America's. This has nothing whatsoever to do with any of the alternate histories depicted in the anthologies... but it's a pretty accurate symbolic representation of Turtledove's Timeline-191 series, where Lincoln experiences a career resurrection after losing the Civil War by becoming a leading American socialist and the Confederacy eventually turns into an expy of the Third Reich.

My question is, what kind of playing with Covers Always Lie would be this be? If any?

This is from One Piece: Blackbeard:

• Race Lift: Marshall D. Teach is heavily based off of the real-life pirate Blackbeard, where he gets his title and part of the name. However, Edward Teach was British, and therefore caucasian, while Marshall D. Teach, according to an SBS, if he were in the real world he would be from Somalia, and his dark skin tone makes clear that he's of black ethnicity.

Much like a similar post I made in this thread, One Piece's Blackbeard isn't the actual historical Blackbeard, simply being named after the guy and for all intents and purposes a fictional character. As such, does Race Lift really count in this case?

Edited by KageTsuki88 on Jan 21st 2023 at 9:34:18 AM

Leaning on it not being an example

Question, from Matthew Reilly:

• Even Evil Has Standards:
  • Speaking of whom, once he escapes, General Rastor makes clear he believes the Omega Monks' ultra-misogynist philosophies to be nonsense. "Why have men, women, or even a universe at all?"

I've read the work. Is this also an example of Equal-Opportunity Evil? He's not opposed out of any real standard; he just thinks everyone is equal...and will all be dead.

Agreed that if the character explicitly isn't the historical Blackbeard, adaptation tropes don't apply.

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Future Slang: Claire introduces Jamie to the word "fuck".

Clearly this is not Future Slang (since it's not slang made up for a future setting), but would it be A Little Something We Call "Rock and Roll"? That seems the closest but I'm not sure if swear words count as pop culture.

Edited by AnotherWanderingGhost on Jan 21st 2023 at 11:17:56 AM

Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade might be spoilers but not sure if it counts, but I'll leave them unmarked, you have been warned:

Idunn's death quote seems to be a case of Bread, Eggs, Breaded Eggs. She says that she is alone, in the dark, alone in darkness.

Edited by JustNormalMusicLover on Jan 22nd 2023 at 12:18:31 AM

There is a good character who very close to Pure Good. But/"close" because he is ready to Shoot the Dog (with subsequent discords of conscience) does this disqualify him from Pure Good status?

Edited by Usterman on Jan 21st 2023 at 10:20:54 AM

Is it a downplayed example of a Tragic Bromance if the hero's male friend doesn't die, but ends up in a coma/hospitalized/Ambiguous Situation?

(x5) That doesn't sound like Even Evil Has Standards to me because he doesn't seem repulsed by it.

(x4) I agree it isn't Future Slang, though I don't feel it's A Little Something We Call "Rock and Roll" either because it doesn't involve music or apparently time-travelling.

(x3) Bread, Eggs, Breaded Eggs seems to only involve objects, so I don't feel that counts.

I don't think so because Incorruptible Pure Pureness requires the character to not do anything morally ambiguous (or villainous).

I don't think that counts as an example because one character dying is a requirement for Tragic Bromance.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Jan 21st 2023 at 12:31:47 PM

(The Pure Good redirect was created in 2015, and we can't find any discussion behind this. It doesn't seem to have ever been the name of Incorruptible Pure Pureness.)

Found this on Trivia.Popeye:

• Franchise Killer: The 1980 film has been accused of being this, though there were a few more animated shows/specials (such as the short-lived Popeye and Son Saturday morning cartoon in 1987) and video games afterward, and the original shorts were rerun on TV well into The '90s, and beyond.

Does it count as a valid example?

I don't think it counts because it didn't kill the franchise.

EDIT: K, thanks.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Jan 21st 2023 at 12:59:56 PM

From Characters.Attack On Titan Krista Lenz:

• Took a Level in Jerkass: After discarding her fake "Krista" persona, her true personality is shown to be an abrasive and cynical Jerk with a Heart of Gold, best seen when she rescues Eren. Likely subverted later after her Character Development of realizing her own person and becoming queen, doing things like opening up an Orphanage of Love.

Does this fit?

It doesn't sound like it to me because it doesn't sound like she became more jerkish.

Are all supernaturally healing kisses, Intimate Healing due to the intimate nature of kissing?

Edited by Malady on Jan 21st 2023 at 9:36:35 AM