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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

Edited to be a thread header.

Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

WarJay77 Quite Impossible to Describe... from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Quite Impossible to Describe...
Aug 17th 2019 at 7:30:10 PM

Noticed that Shonen Hair is...quite bad. Giving it a thorough scrub.

However, there's only so much I can do, as most of the "good" examples are still just "character has spiky hair". Fine if that's the trope. Not so fine if the character is supposed to fit the personality type as well.

Edit: Page is done. Managed to bork up the page, but I also managed to fix it.

Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 17th 2019 at 11:10:53 AM

Female troper who likes Pokemon, ARGs, Writing, and more. / Links: Sandbox.Zero Context Example Thread - Sandbox.Roleplay Cleanup Thread
Pichu-kun ...
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Aug 19th 2019 at 6:47:48 AM

Bishōnen is a zero-context example magnet. I commented out most of the first folder before getting bored. There are only so many ways to say "This character is pretty".

Edited by Pichu-kun on Aug 20th 2019 at 9:42:04 AM

Pemulis_128 A 20th Century Boy from Teleporting behind you Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
A 20th Century Boy
Aug 19th 2019 at 6:42:46 PM

I brought this up over in Ask The Tropers and was redirected here. The video games subpage of Keep Circulating the Tapes has a folder of Atari examples that are either too brief, zero context examples, or unprofessionally written. Personally, I think the Atari section needs a clean-up very badly. Unfortunately, I am not very knowledgeable on Atari games so I can’t really do much to clean it. If there’s anyone with more knowledge on the subject, I’d gladly appreciate some help.

GoldenCityBird A Greathearted Healer from the UK
A Greathearted Healer
Aug 20th 2019 at 8:01:50 AM

The No Ordinary Family character page looks kinda bad. I've fixed the spoilered-out trope names, but I'm not knowledgable enough on the show to flesh out examples.

This forum reminds me of a puzzle!
WarJay77 Quite Impossible to Describe... from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Quite Impossible to Describe...
Aug 21st 2019 at 12:21:38 AM

I attempted a rewrite of the ZCE page here. Thoughts?

Female troper who likes Pokemon, ARGs, Writing, and more. / Links: Sandbox.Zero Context Example Thread - Sandbox.Roleplay Cleanup Thread
rjd1922 Paladin from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Paladin
Aug 21st 2019 at 7:59:17 PM

[up]That looks pretty good.

~XFllo commented out this example I added to Innocent Blue Eyes with the edit reason "needs more context". I thought I explained it well enough; is the problem that I explained a trope using another trope? How could I make it acceptable?

[down]I realize now that XFllo replaced "these" with "blue eyes" as she commented it out.

Edited by rjd1922 on Aug 21st 2019 at 10:07:47 AM

Steel be with you.
WarJay77 Quite Impossible to Describe... from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Quite Impossible to Describe...
Aug 21st 2019 at 8:03:34 PM

Thanks, just so you know, we're discussing it here.

As for that, I think you just need to replace "these" with "his blue eyes".

Female troper who likes Pokemon, ARGs, Writing, and more. / Links: Sandbox.Zero Context Example Thread - Sandbox.Roleplay Cleanup Thread
Aug 21st 2019 at 8:26:28 PM

I think the Innocent Blue Eyes entry is a little shoehorn-y, TBH. The trope description says "Innocent "baby blues" or clear, pure and shining, these eyes are blue to symbolize youth, naïveté, inexperience, and purity of soul." Ben Grimm's a nice enough guy, but I don't know that any of that really describes him.

RallyBot2 King of Nitpicking from Nowhere Significant Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
King of Nitpicking
Aug 22nd 2019 at 2:44:14 PM

[up]Maybe the "purity of soul" part, but even that is Depending on the Writer. I would remove it.

rjd1922 Paladin from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Paladin
Aug 22nd 2019 at 3:36:19 PM

I'd like to hear XFllo's opinion. Does typing a tilde and their handle send the troper a PM directing them to this thread ("[troper] would like to call your attention to this...")?

Steel be with you.
WarJay77 Quite Impossible to Describe... from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Quite Impossible to Describe...
Aug 22nd 2019 at 3:45:36 PM

[up] Yup

Female troper who likes Pokemon, ARGs, Writing, and more. / Links: Sandbox.Zero Context Example Thread - Sandbox.Roleplay Cleanup Thread
XFllo Witch from Where foxes bid people good night... Relationship Status: Love potion #9
Witch
Aug 23rd 2019 at 7:21:12 AM

I got the PM. I'm not here all the time though. Let ne explain.

I don't think that saying that a character is also an example of another trope is sufficient, helpful context. Gentle Giant is its own thing, an independent trope that also requires some explanation, you know?

I'm not familiar with the work, so I don't know whether it's a shoehorn or just an insufficiently explained example.

My two cents.

If others think it's fine as it is, then ok. I could live with that. smile

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wingedcatgirl it's her... the real winged cat girl... from Catgirl Heaven, presumably Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
it's her... the real winged cat girl...
Aug 23rd 2019 at 12:07:11 PM

Much of Horror Doesn't Settle for Simple Tuesday is work names with literally no further text.

🐱 Name: Sylvi 🐱 Pronouns: it/they/she 🐱
WarJay77 Quite Impossible to Describe... from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Quite Impossible to Describe...
Aug 23rd 2019 at 12:07:57 PM

^ Oof...yeah, that's bad.

Female troper who likes Pokemon, ARGs, Writing, and more. / Links: Sandbox.Zero Context Example Thread - Sandbox.Roleplay Cleanup Thread
Aug 25th 2019 at 9:11:44 PM

From Lady in Red:

  • Cheryl Blossom on Riverdale embodies this trope.

How exactly is Cheryl an example of this trope?

Aug 25th 2019 at 9:38:14 PM

The Fairly OddParents! reeks of ZCEs. I counted four in a row in the first folder alone!

bwburke94 My Ice Cream Waifu from Remnant Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
My Ice Cream Waifu
Aug 26th 2019 at 1:15:18 PM

[up] This must be the work of... FAIRY GODPARENTS!

Misspelled trope names dealt with... for now. Moving back to the Understatement project soon?
GastonRabbit King of Blue Lions from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
King of Blue Lions
Aug 27th 2019 at 9:37:10 PM

I cutlisted VideoGame.Tinhead and Trivia.Tinhead due to a lack of context for the examples. The pages' creator was brought up in this ATT query.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 28th 2019 at 3:31:39 AM

"I am Ferdinand von Aegir." —Ferdinand von Aegir
Brainulator9 Regular garden-variety troper. from US Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
potshotbeta serial lurker, drive-by editor
serial lurker, drive-by editor
Aug 30th 2019 at 8:05:28 AM

I just went through and scrubbed Greek Chorus. Many of the examples have "this trope"-type wording, which isn't ideal, but if they included sufficient context to explain how the trope applies I left them visible.

razorrozar7 I am having much enjoyment! from Oregon Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
I am having much enjoyment!
Aug 30th 2019 at 8:08:46 AM

[up][up]i hate you. i will never un-hear that.

I'm Chloe. I fix things. Only you can prevent ZCEs.
potshotbeta serial lurker, drive-by editor
serial lurker, drive-by editor
Aug 30th 2019 at 8:47:15 AM

I felt like suffering, so I took a chainsaw to Horror Doesn't Settle for Simple Tuesday. My hand hurts after 30 minutes of straight Ctrl+V action. Cleaned up a bit of formatting on some of the examples I left visible, but for the most part I just zapped the ones with no context. I also deleted a couple of entries which explicitly said that the holiday had nothing to do with the plot of the work cited.

The page has a lot of empty-seeming folders left, wherein all of the examples were ZCE—should something be done about that?

Crossover-Enthusiast The Absolute Mad Lads from somewhere doing something Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Absolute Mad Lads
Sep 6th 2019 at 8:07:09 AM

All of the examples on Inkblot Cartoon Style are ZCEs of the "this is this" variety. I can't comment them out because then the page would be a stub. What do?

Rubber Hose Limbs also has a lot of ZCEs - though there do seem to be some passable examples.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Sep 6th 2019 at 11:17:43 AM

SANS IS IN SMASH, EVERYONE GO HOME
wingedcatgirl it's her... the real winged cat girl... from Catgirl Heaven, presumably Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
it's her... the real winged cat girl...
Sep 8th 2019 at 10:08:19 AM

Series Minus Series Core has a lot of examples that are just a title and a link.

🐱 Name: Sylvi 🐱 Pronouns: it/they/she 🐱

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