YMMV / Red vs. Blue

This page is for the YMMV tropes of Red vs. Blue.

    Series-Wide 
  • Base-Breaking Character: Agent Carolina. One sides sympathizes with her, pointing how she was the victim of the Director's manipulations as well as betrayal by her teammates. They also appreciate her relationship with York and were saddened that they were never able to get together. The other side hates her for being a Jerkass in the present day to the Reds and Blues as well as blaming her for everything that went wrong with Project Freelancer, even if it wasn't her fault. The later seasons have made her much more well-loved, however, as she Took a Level in Kindness, seeing the Blood Gulch Crew as her new family, and outright fears them dying (and saw them die in Santa's vision). And in season 15, she seems to have become just as crazy as the crew.
  • Better Than Canon: Many fans consider the increasingly dark and intricate plots to be better than those of Halo.
  • Broken Base: The Season 13 PSA about trigger warnings resulted in a pretty instant, pretty messy split between three camps: Those who felt the episode was hilarious for lampooning the Political Correctness Gone Mad tendencies of some trigger warning users (As well as pointing out how these people make it hard to take real triggers seriously thanks to their overusage of them for mundane things), those who don't find the jokes funny due to the reason behind trigger warnings in the first placenote , and those who didn't care either way for the episode, but found it in poor taste to release something so controversial despite knowing and lampshading the Internet Backdraft it would cause, given RT's own very anti-politics-on-site nature. Then there's the smaller camp who found the intense reactions from both sides ridiculously over sensitive or hypocritical, regardless of if they themselves liked or disliked the video AND regardless of their own opinion on trigger warnings.
    • When the series should have ended, if it should've ended at all. Some say it should've ended at Season 5, since it gives a sincerely sad ending to a hilarious series about how pointless everything was. Others say Season 10, with the lore and formula having been deconstructed and reconstructed, backstory having been explained, and characters having been pushed to their limits. Still others say Season 13, with The Chorus Trilogy giving fresh air to the franchise, proving it can work in an overall new setting, and ending with the death of what is essentially the show's main character. Season 14 was controversial in itself, but some say Vic's goodbye speech would've been an acceptable ending. And of course, others are happy that the series is still ongoing.
    • The biggest split thus far has been between those who like the series for the military-themed dialogue-focused comedy of the Blood Gulch Chronicles (particularly seasons 4 and 5) versus those who prefer the action-thriller direction and deep plot that season 6 adopted.
  • Complete Monster:
    • The CEO of Charon Industries, Malcom Hargrove, aka the Chairman, is one of the biggest villains in the series, and among its most evil. Even before his villain reveal, his investigation on the Director of Project Freelancer goes too far when he releases Agent Washington, who had no hesitation to kill the Reds and Blues at that point, and the Meta, a known criminal who killed Freelancers for their equipment and A.I.s, from prison to hunt down Epsilon, who was currently in possession of the Blue Team. He finds alien artifacts the planet Chorus, so in order to collect them, he hires a group of Space Pirates to kill everyone on the planet by manipulating them into a Civil War. He sends ships containing cargo for the mercenaries to use to the planet, where the mercs kill everyone on the ship and steal the cargo for their own use. When the mission is in jeopardy, he threatens to kill his two lead mercs Locus and the below character by sending a new agent to finish the job. When he is exposed, he decides to kill as many of the Chorusans as possible out of spite, rather than surrender.
    • Felix, real name Isaac Gates, one of the Co-Dragons to the aforementioned character, is just as bad. When he fought in the Great War, he never showed any mercy to his enemies, even those that were trying to surrender. When one of his teammates, Locus, was broken by the war, Felix kept him from getting help and dragged him along because he knew that he couldn't survive without his partner, despite hating him. When he was hired by his boss to create a Civil War on the planet Chorus, the mercenary took his job too far by infiltrating one the sides because he thought it would be fun for them to trust him while not knowing that he was leading them to their deaths while mocking them for trusting him. He also leads the raid on prison ship where the entire crew is killed and the prisoners who are not worthy to join forces with him ejected from the ship. When word comes out about the Purge, He is unable to resist being the one to personally kill off everyone, showing that he doesn't care about the orders and more about just killing for the hell of it. When the Purge temple is destroyed, Felix pointlessly goes after the Reds and Blues just so he can kill them.
  • Cry for the Devil:
    • For all the Director's horrific war crimes, manipulation, large-scale Mind Rape, and callusness towards everyone, his love for Allison is his one sympathetic quality that reminds you he was once a decent human being. In the season 10 finale, his breakdown into a hopeless, broken shell of a man is one of the saddest moments in the series.
    • Despite his years of killing and ruthless pragmatism, Locus is a troubled soldier still suffering Post-Traumatic Stress after the Covenant war, bullied into a killing machine by his commander and Felix.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: Quite a few, as to be expected of a series running since 2003.
    • Lopez, among the original BGC crew. Since the ensemble cast is such that all of them could be considered main characters, save everyone's favorite Mexican robot. The sheer oddness of the concept, combined with his extremely sarcastic and fatalist mindset provide some of the best jokes in the early seasons.
    • Agent York and his AI partner Delta, introduced in the "Out of Mind" miniseries. York's grumpy if amiable charm and Delta's general intelligence and Not SO Above It All moments made them really stand out in a series that at the time was starved for competent characters. Despite the fact that both were killed off by the end of a series that only lasted fifteen minutes, the writers seemed to agree as Delta was brought back every chance they got, giving him a significant amount of speaking lines in most seasons after.
    • Sister and Junior. They were introduced in the late beginning of season 5 and didn't get much screentime or a lot to do by the writers, despite their potential to shake up the group dynamic. They were promptly Put on a Bus for the longest time, furthering the sentiment as both were presumed dead for years. There's hope yet, as they're confirmed alive and well in the season 13 finale.
    • CT, both the original and her successor had a comparatively small amount of scenes in the prequels, but when the extent of their tragic relationship was revealed that ended with one hell of a beautiful love ballad, it surprised and saddened many that didn't think the show could be so warm and emotional.
    • More or less every soldier with a name in both the New Republic and Federal Army of Chorus, and even those that aren't such as the medic girl who occasionally spoke. In particular, the rookie squad, and even of those, Katie Jensen received a lot of attention for her Adorkable qualities. The other standout is Dr. Emily Grey, who's bubbly personality and psychotic madness was beloved by the fanbase, even those that didn't like the Chorus cast.
  • Fan-Preferred Couple:
    • Pick a Red Vs Blue fanfiction, any Red vs Blue fanfiction, if it even vaguely involves romance in some way chances are good that Grimmons will either be the main, secondary or supporting couple of said fic.
    • Tuckington (Tucker and Washington) also become pretty popular in the fandom after the events of the Chorus Civil War arc. It helps that the two spend almost all their time together during that arc and at least some of Tucker's motivation to become a better soldier is to rescue Wash after he's kidnapped at the end of season 11.
    • Carolina/Wash and Carolina/York are also very popular, even though the latter dies before he could ever reveal his feelings.
  • Fountain of Memes: More often then not, expect Caboose to be quoted by fans of Red vs Blue.
  • Fridge Logic: In Season 2 Lopez and Sheila leave a note at Blue base to meet in the centre of the canyon at 0600 hours - the same time and place they were meeting the Reds. The note is written in binary. Church can read it. Justified in that he is actually an AI program himself, and will be able to understand binary script.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: Caboose's Image Song I'm Your Best Friend was once a heartwarming single about Caboose's happiness about being near Church. Come season 13's ending, the song is nothing but sadness since Caboose will likely never see Church again. And he was already The Woobie to begin with.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: Chairman Hargrove is the CEO of a major corporation who is also a politician. In 2016, Donald Trump, a major businessman, was elected President of the United States. And we will not go any further.
  • He's Just Hiding: With the show's habit of going from Death Is Cheap to Deader Than Dead in suitably serious moments, you can see why there's so many examples.
    • Many fans don't buy the Meta's Disney Villain Death and believe he will make a reappearance. As of Season 13, Maine is confirmed dead but his empty armour is in the possession of Malcolm Hargrove. Many episodes were spent hammering in the fact that yes, he's indeed dead, and the Meta died the moment the EMP wiped out all the original AI fragments.
    • The Freelancers get this a lot. After spending two seasons characterizing them with their own flaws and friendships that made them very likable, they're still doomed to die in either ignoble, humiliating deaths and some fans really still hold out hope that some will make a reappearance, unlikely as it seems.
    • At the end of season 13, Epsilon defragments himself in order to create new AI that can manage Tucker's suit, effectively erasing him from existence. Since this isn't the first, second, or even third time an incarnation of Leonard Church has died, many fans were hoping this would be another bluff. Unfortunately for said fans, he's confirmed to be Killed Off for Real.
    • The same holds true for Texas/Allison, even if Epsilon Church made sure to delete her from his mind, ensuring she could never come back as a part of him. The Director seemed to have another copy lying around, but all of his works were explicitly destroyed by his own order. This is just as well, since the memory of Allison is exhausted being constantly brought back.
    • Some fans still believe Felix is alive against all odds and show established laws of nature. The temples confirmed he was dead as Locus was able to wield the key that could only be used by a true warrior once the previous was dead. Considering Donut already died and came back once or twice everything's possible.
    • You can also add the Triplets. While it's never stated they're dead, the fact that they were left on a barren planet with a trio of enemies that has a limited supply of food and alcohol, and Project Freelancer never bothered to send rescue, some fans hope they made it out regardless. Being possible surviving Freelancers and having a canonical lesbian in their group doesn't hurt.
  • Ho Yay: It's gotten to a point where even the creators lampshade it when outside the show.
  • Iron Woobie: Tex consistently fails at whatever she's trying to do, not that it stops her from trying or being a badass while doing so. Same can be said of Carolina and Wash, who go on to learn from the past and resolve to put their mistakes behind them.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • "It's a legitimate strategy!" (Camping.)
    • That was the worst throw ever. Of all time.
  • Moe:
    • Caboose, for his childish personality and incredible display of stupidity. His upbeat nature and suffering a lot throughout the series make him endearing rather than annoying.
    • Wash, whenever he can relax and have fun, especially so in his younger days in Freelancer flashbacks.
    • Jensen's just so darn cute, even if we can't see her under the armor. It's the lisp.
    • This account's for Theta's popularity. In a series full of Black Comedy, characters who are too dumb to live, casual abuse, and general suffering, the fact that he's a cute AI with the personality and voice of a little kid is just precious.
  • Periphery Demographic: A lot of RWBY fans, especially the YouTube reaction/reviewer community, have discovered the show on the off-season when they needed content to react to/review.
  • Seasonal Rot: While there's still some good jokes to be found, seasons 4 and 5 are considered the period of the series when it was in a rut, and the Blood Gulch formula was starting to get stale. The lack of plot for long stretches of time were something of a letdown after the third season had many interesting developments while being just as funny.
  • Sequelitis: Lightly referenced in the gaming PSA.
    Simmons: Join us next time for part 2 of our series: sequels.
    Grif: Parts 3 and 4 are about that, too.
    • Despite this being jokingly referenced, Seasons 9 and 10 became much more popular than the previous seasons ever were, and the Chorus Trilogy is beloved by many fans for taking the series in a fresh direction.
  • Tough Act to Follow: Reconstruction (season 6) was such a drastic jump in quality with it's fairly serious, Darker and Edgier plot and the intimidating villain of the Meta, that it's regarded as the go-to example of Cerebus Syndrome, and in the eyes of several fans just couldn't be topped. Then season 10 one-upped the symphonic metal soundtrack, large cast of characters of both genders, slick, cinematic cg fight scenes that looked more impressive even than 8 and 9's, and wrapping up many ongoing storylines involving the Freelancers that looked like it could've ended the series then and there. Nowadays the Chorus trilogy is another contender with its back to basics approach that set out to have a new plot that had little to do with Freelancer agents, giving a fresh direction that blended drama and comedy seamlessly, and ending with the death of Church.
  • Win Back the Crowd: Fans who disliked the focus on action and intricate plot that dominated the Recollection (seasons 6-8) and the Freelancer Saga (seasons 9-10) were pleasantly surprised with the Chorus Trilogy (seasons 11-13), for having more to do with the Blood Gulch Crew, a larger emphasis on classic Rv B comedy, pulling focus away from giant action setpieces, making the action more grounded, and for bringing in a new, simpler plot that had little to do with the Freelancers.
  • The Woobie:
    • Due to his childlike personality, Caboose gets a lot of sympathy for suffering that the show generally inflicts on its characters. Then there's seasons 13 ending, which has pretty much solidified him as this.
    • Church gets pretty well established as this (well, as a Jerkass Woobie) once his backstory is unveiled.
    • Agent Washington's life is tragedy, plain and simple. Got a lot better after the Recollection trilogy, though.
      • Pretty much anyone from Project Freelancer could be summed up the same way (And most didn't get a happy ending).
    • All the guys have their moments when you just want to hug them like Simmons in Season 4 and 9, Tucker in Season 11 and 12, and Grif when he's being shot at. Even Sarge has a moment of this when he discovers that his career is a lie and both teams exist as cannon fodder.

Season 15:

  • Alternative Character Interpretation: Did Vic truly want to die, or was he really just kidding after all? Also, did Dylan pull the plug or did she leave him be?
  • Awesome Ego: It may just be putting on a brave face for her opponents, but Dylan's quick to show off her achievements and has rock solid confidence in her determination to see her story through. And she's got the guile, charisma, and quick thinking to earn it.
  • Broken Base: The focus being taken off the Reds and Blues so heavily doesn't sit well with some people, while others are interested in the new main characters. Mitigated a bit when Dylan only takes four episodes to meet up with them.
  • Counterpart Comparison: Due to a similar premise and the series already having connections to Halo, this season is often compared to HUNT the TRUTH.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: One of the reasons why people were so convinced that the Reds and Blues in Episode 1 were fakes was because Caboose went backwards, which he promised he would never do in Reconstruction. Guess what the real Caboose does immediately after Dylan finds him?
  • Narm: The FOTUS-armored soldier's giant unicorn horn can come off as more goofy than intimidating, as does the constant lightning storm that seems to follow him around. Given that it turns out he's a civil servant, this was probably an Invoked Trope.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: The FOTUS Soldier was seen by many as trying too hard to come off as intimidating like Locus or the Meta but ended up at the point it bordered on Narm. The Reveal that he is a completely ordinary civil servant turns this into retroactive build-up for a hilarious Anti-Climax.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
    • On the other hand, some were hoping the FOTUS soldier would be either someone under a new moniker (i.e. Felix, Doyle, Siris) or a new character with a major role.
    • Many viewers were also disappointed with the Epsilon AI fragments not making an appearance, with many hoping for fan-favorites such as Delta and Theta to return.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Some viewers are split over the Reds and Blues seen in the first few episodes being impostors.
  • The Woobie:
    • Grif is seen as this by many after he quits, with many theories arising that he has PTSD from all his adventures.
    • Simmons is very depressed now that Grif is gone. He turns around to joke with him only to find him gone, and seems very upset that Grif said he doesn't like him despite them being friends for years.

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