Church's "ghost form" seems like it originated from the idea that ghosts should be white. But in the light of The Reveal, you have to ask yourself: What happens when you split white light?
Similar to this, Church seems to be the Only Sane Man of the series, until said reveal, when it turns out that he actually lost everything else about his personality in order to keep his sanity. Yes, his character, backstory and all, is literally Only Sane Man plus a bit of natural jerkass that comes with spending as much time as he did in Blood Gulch.
Sarge's speech is awesome, no doubt, but his opening lines "do you ever wonder why we're here" has a double meaning. The question was originally answered assuming they were being asked why are they there, doing what they're doing, while the original question is about why they aren't in the shade. Sarge's question is asking about the former, but in the end, he's talking about bring to light the events that happened, as opposed to keeping people in the dark.
Actually in the first episode it was Grif and Simmonsquestioning about god and the point of beingg in a box canyon. Caboose and Church do the shade "Why were we here." speech in the end of season 5.
Another Fridge Brillance in Sarge's speech is when he tells Grif that he could have left any time he wanted and nobody would have stopped him. Despite Grif's constant complaints if he asks sarge for permission to be lazy or cowardly and sarge denies him he actually follows Sarge's orders. Despite Grif's claims of having no respect for Sarge, Sarge's attempts to kill him, and his occasional half assed attempts to quit like talking about Simmon's feelings when Sarge said he'd courtmartial anyone who talked about Simmon's feelings. Grif ultimately chooses to stay.
Caboose' dislike of Tucker seems funny and random until you realize that Tucker throughout the Blood Gulch Chronicles was essentially Church's best friend. Hence Caboose is Jealous of Tucker.
On the subject of Caboose that's also fridge horror. Caboose is obsessed with Church being his best friend and would do anything for him including filling Epsilons's memories with stories about Church. Caboose keeps trying to bring back Church. Church is a representation of the Director whose obsession kept trying to bring back Alison. It seems being unable to let go is a running theme in the series.
Grif's supposed status as Brilliant, but Lazy. He's so lazy that thinking itself is too much effort for him short of life-and-death.
Grif has shown himself to be brilliant when he was Simmons defense attorney in a trial where Sarge was Judge and Prosecution. He had Simmons plead guilty with time served and a fine that would be split between Grif and Sarge so they all could avoid seeing Donut in hot pants again.
Why were Wyoming's clones beaten so soundly when he himself appeared a credible threat? Because Wyoming prefers dirty-handed tactics and is more of an assassin than a real fighter. Examples include sneaking up behind Phil before killing him off, sniping people from a distance and looping time until he wins.
Wyoming was doing somewhat OK. A few of him got sniped, but they were able to corner the blues. It wasn't until the red came and mowed them down with the chaingun on the warthog that they got beaten soundly, which is understandable, since very few can withstand that weapon.
In season 9, we are lead to believe that the director sends in Tex to help the Dakota twins after they botch their mission. However, it instead turns out to be Agent Carolina with her "Chameleon" armor upgrade. The fact that it wasn't Tex makes perfect sense because, assuming this takes place before the creation or fragmentation of the Alpha, that means that the Tex we all know didn't even exist yet.
Tex wasn't a fragment. She was "born" with Alpha, not from him.
I thought up two things about this. Either this is the Directors lover, which explains why she is badass like Tex. The other theory is that this is the body that Tex ends up possessing. Either one could explain why the un-named Freelancer is so much like Tex.
Or, as it turns out, she's just really good at being a Freelancer. Pity that we know (from what Delta says in season 6) that she's going to end up being given two AIs and go crazy.
Tex was on the mission, she was responsible for blowing up the Oil Platform (Episode 15, said by Carolina). In fact, Carolina suggests that Tex has been operating for a while.
Revealed in Season 10. Carolina is (at least implied to be) the Director's and Allison's (the original Tex) daughter.
If Tex and Church's relationship reportedly ended badly, and Tex even brutally betrayed Church to learn the truth about her creation, why does Church keep fighting for her, and why can't they seem to just get rid of each other and move on? Because Tex is based on the woman the Director loved (and whom supposedly loved him back), and yet is destined to fail at everything she wants, their entire relationship is one cruel cycle: they fall in love, but Tex will always be unable to commit fully at the last second. Talk about brutal.
Holy crap!! That's almost as messed up as Evangelion!!
You don't even need it to be about Tex failing. It could easily be that the Director completely believed that the real Alison loved him as much as he loved her but that she'd broken it off (possibly due to commitment issues - remember those comments in Season 1 about how she regularly cheated on Church? That's probably the real Alison he's referring to) but he never really gave up on her - and then she died and he truly believed she'd have one day returned to him if she'd just held on. It doesn't matter whether he was right or not, it's about what he interpreted that became the basis of Tex. It makes Tucker's comment in S9 about this being one of the creepiest stalker stories out there all the more poignant - and Church's response is EXACTLY what the Director's opinion would be on this: it's romantic that he built a shrine of her in the form of a.... shadow to use CT's word. He'd think it's incredibly romantic that his feelings for her were so strong that she just popped into existence.... and then he turns her into his best agent.... and then his artificial clones spend most of their respective lives obsessing over her and chasing her until Epsilon finally broke the cycle. Even if Alison did love the Director, I think her opinion would be nothing short of horror if she tried to conceptualize this entire reality.
Fridge Awesome here (is that a thing?)(it is now why not?): Doc's actions in the last episode of Revelation. Think about it: despite everything that Wash and the Meta have put him through, Doc decides to save Washington. Wash responds to this by insulting him. A few minutes later, Doc sides with Church, and Washington doesn't even factor in that he'll have to go through the guy who saved his life to get at Epsilon. A few minutes after that, Wash is dying, and Doc is - again - the only one who can help. He's been a lousy medic for long enough that he knows he can get away with letting him die. He has no reason to help him and every reason to "accidentally" let his scalpel slip (Doc isn't really clued-in here, so he might even think that Wash will start fighting again if he gets back up). But does he? Does he even consider it? No, he pulls together all his experience, gives it everything he's got, and saves him so that he goddamn STAYS saved. And then he walks away without getting anything for it.
In season five at the end. Doc had O'malley a crazed villain in his head that could make him go on a killing spree at any time. Church has just insulted his diagnosis of Tucker's pregnancy and told him to leave and O'Malley claims that Church only asked for a Diagnosis not treatment or a correct Diagnosis. Doc takes over and tells Church and O'Malley that his diagnosis is correct and that he WILL be taking care of Tucker causing both O'Malley and Church to express surprise in unison. Then in the next season Church wants to kill Junior and Doc refuses to let Church into the base. Even more fridge is added when you consider that Omega may have been helping doc keep the kid alive to further his enslave the "elites use them to take over the galaxy" plan
If the theory about Vic being an AI or VI is true, that would explain why and how Lopez translated Vic's message to Spanish in Season 4. (And how Sarge was able to translate it back into English with Andy.) An ordinary voice recording wouldn't have been translated to another language, especially not with the correct inflections while preserving the original voice and tone. But if that recording was actually a computer-generated message, Lopez's Spanish setting could've recognized the program and changed it to his default language: Spanish! Lopez, Andy, and Vic could all have similar programming: one was made from a robot kit sent by command, one was built out of pieces of armor, and one is theoretically an AI or VI.
In season 9, episode 10, Wash has a moment when he assumes Tex is a guy. When South calls him out on it, he then accidentally calls Tex an "it." It may be him being a dork at the moment, but knowing what Tex actually is...
After the big reveal in Red vs. Blue: Reconstruction where Church is revealed to actually be a super-advanced A.I. program, this troper recalled a conversation between Church and Caboose in the first season where Caboose's unique train of thought comes to the conclusion that Church is "a gay robot", which could either be taken as subtle foreshadowing or dumb coincidence (whether or not Church is gay, however, is still left to be decided). — Omny87
At first, it seems the Ice map Avalanche had no real significance in being the location for the conclusion of Revelation. It was only recently that I realized that map's Halo 1 equivalent, Sidewinder, was the place where Tex made her first appearance in a Curb-Stomp Battle, and Avalanche has Tex getting brutally killed by the Meta - in other words, it's meant to show that Tex's story has come full circle. — Battra09416
At the end of Reconstruction, The Director of Project Freelancer, Dr. Leonard Church, states "My mind has always plagued me with the question: If the choice had been placed in my hands, could I have saved her? The memory of her has haunted me my entire life, moreso in these last few years than I could ever have imagined. But given the events of these past few weeks, I feel confident that had I been given the chance, I would have made those sacrifices myself. Had I only the chance." But why would "the events of the past few weeks," the struggle between Wash, the Meta, and Command, have convinced the Director? It didn't. It was Church and his sacrifice that convinced Dr. Church that he would have done the same - just like the AI that was based off of him.
As this troper was finishing season nine, a thought struck me. At first, Tex's sudden ultra competence bugged the hell out of me. It was out of nowhere. She takes out Maine, York and Wyoming with relative ease. But then... again, an idea came to mind. Despite how awesome and badass she is, in the end, she's a deconstruction of the Mary Sue. She's everything The Director wanted her to be, as she's the memory of someone he once loved. But her death is an integral part of that memory. As Epsilon explains, the memory of her death dooms her to a cycle of failure at critical moments, turning the tide against herself at the last second. On top of that, her abilities don't endear her to Carolina or Wash, and the Blues and Reds like to think of her as the "scary chick." Only Church risks life and limb for her, and even Tucker points out that's just unhealthy. Mary Sues are supposed to be loved by everyone. Instead, Tex fosters fear, resentment or paranoia, and at the height of her power she inevitably fails. As cool as she can be, she's just as broken as Church. - Quadrophenia
Conversely, we have the Alpha's complete incompetence. If he was an AI, he would be a pro at tactics or at least be able to calculate the trajectory needed to hit a stationary target. It makes sense though when we consider how the Alpha was tortured and split. For example, he lost his ability to lie when he lost Gamma (deceit).
The Meta. Apparently he was trying to assemble a second Alpha using the AI fragments used as Freelancer equipment. What's the second letter in the Greek alphabet, the one that comes after Alpha? Beta. Throw an M in there and you have Meta.
Theory now Jossed. Meta is short for the theoretical final state for AI's (metastability) under Bungie's rampancy concept, which is borrowed by the series.
Even if it's not the in-universe reason it still makes sense and might have been deliberate.
So far I have only started the seventh season so if i'm wrong correct me, but all the freelancers, who use the reds and blues for training purposes, have either purple (the mix of red and blue), white (the blending of all colors) or black (the absence of all color). I cant think of a meaning for grey that fits in my fridge moment. On a further note, the two purple characters i have seen, Doc and South, are people who either a) healing people regardless of side or b) are chronic backstabbers and the meta (white) is trying to get all the A.I.s which are colored in primary colors. Can any one think of anything else to add?
York has shown up already, and he's yellow. Seasons 8-10 add a couple more. We've got a brown, a teal, another purple, and a mysterious blue Freelancer who shows up in the art but is unidentified.
Some of these colors just mean different things for different characters, but here's mine:
Tex has black armor - the absense of color, so she is on nobody's side but her own.
Wyoming has white armor - at the time he was introduced in the series, he was the only other freelancer besides Tex. So he got the opposite of her color.
Doc (who isn't a freelancer agent, but w/e) has purple armor - a medic assigned to work for both red and blue. Red and Blue make purple.
South has purple armor - chronic backstabber who plays whatever side is needed. While neither the Reds or the Blues had contact with her, the easiest way to show neutrality is to be like Doc and have purple.
North has purple armor - he kinda has a nurturing personality that Doc has; plus he's South's brother.
Carolina has teal armor - Carolina is Church's daughter, and the person sent to look over Church (Captain Flowers) had that same color. Also to tie her to Captain Flowers, she is doing the exact opposite of what he did; Captain Flowers was assigned as part of a cover up, and Carolina is out to unravel it all.
York has yellow/orange/brown armor - good with technology, so he gets the same color as Lopez (possible reference to copper wiring, though that's a bit of a stretch).
Washington has black armor - similar role as Tex, in that he is a rogue who doesn't really work for any one side except his own.
I don't know if this was intended or not, but think about this. In Episode 2 of the BGC, Sarge says, sarcastically, that they won and that Grif is the big hero. Take that as Grif being the reason that Red Team won at Blood Gulch. Later, in the mini-series Relocated, Lopez informs Sarge that Red Team actually DID win at Blood Gulch because Lopez killed Grif's sister. So technically, a Grif was the cause of Red Team's victory at Blood Gulch! Foreshadowing!
Anyone with understanding of genetics would realized that it would be pretty hard for Sister to be colorblind but not Griff. Then it hits you. She's not colorblind. She's so stupid that she can't tell the difference between red and blue.
It's possible that Grif is colorblind, just not as stupid as Sister.
Or Grif and Sister actually have different fathers.
Or their mother is a carrier for colorblindness. Grif inherited the non-colorblind X chromosome from his mother and the unaffected Y Chromosome from his father. Sister inherited a colorblind X chromosome from each parent. That would mean that their father (if shared) is very likely to be colorblind.
There's also at least one form of colourblindness that is acquired rather than inborn, usually due to a head injury. The Grifs have different experiences and it never happened to Dexter.
You mean like the kind of brain damage one might get after being stuck under water for three hours?
Especially after all the retcons, the series is now, arguably, a Love Story (albeit a reeeeeeeeally screwed up one). Seeing as how the existence of the Freelancers, Red and Blue bases, and a large chunk of the plot are pretty much due to the Director's love for Allison, and Church's feelings for Tex drive a large chunk of the rest of the plot, almost from Day One. Caboose's feelings for Church (whether you want to classify them as platonic or not) also end up being a strong motivator of the plot at certain points, too.
You know how Junior is supposedly the Christ figure of the aliens? Wouldn't that make Tucker, his mother, the Virgin Mary (emphasis on "virgin")?
I want this to be deliberate more than anything else I've ever read in my life.
This was most likely a coincidence, but in The Bible, Revelation 20:1-3 reads, "And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time." Fitting how, in Revelation episode 20, the Meta is killed by being chained to a Warthog and flung into an icy abyss.
You know how Tex's main attribute is failure? Well, after both times the Meta absorbed Tex, he failed in both of his goals (he got all his AI emp'd, and then got killed by simulation troopers). So, it's safe to say that absorbing Tex caused the Meta to inherit Tex's attribute of failure as if it were his own!
Gamma never really sent Church back in time. He just did what Tex said he did to the Alpha back before the Blood Gulch Chronicles. He created a scenario that made Church suffer by making him believe every bad thing that had happened in Blood Gulch was his fault.
At first, it bothered me that Caboose got over Church so quickly and basically replaced him with Wash. Then, it occurred to me that Wash's lean-mean-killing-machine qualities might be what attracted Caboose to Church in the first place. Church is mean and snarky. Wash is even more mean and snarky, so of course Caboose likes him better.
Strangely, though, Wash seems less mean and snarky after spending time on blue team. It might just be because he's a more effective leader. Hell, he's probably been teaching Caboose and Tucker combat skills. Maybe even the Reds.
A meta example: The season 10 premiere was the highest rated ever. What's the very first line of dialogue? "And now, the moment you've all been waiting for ... "
Washington once mentioned that Omega would always jump back to Tex when moved to other suits of armor. This might at first seem like it's because Tex can be Ax-Crazy at times, but after The Reveal the real reason is brilliant - Tex is the women Church loves, and Omega is a fragment of Church's mind. So of course he's always going to try and find the woman he loves; that's what the real Church was always trying to do too!
Coupled with a moment of Fridge Horror : WHY WERE THEY PUTTING OMEGA IN OTHER PEOPLE'S HEADS?!?
I just realized something: Sigma is Maine, AKA the Meta's AI, right? And the Meta tried to gather all of the AI, very possibly under Sigma's influence. Well, in mathematics, Sigma (Σ) is used to represent the sum. Which is a parallel to what Sigma/Maine tried to do! Gather them all up and add them all together!
Sigma expressed interest in the fourth stage of rampancy: Metastability aka full sentience. The third stage of rampancy is jealousy, which an AI has a desire to grow in knowledge and ability. Despite being a fragment, Sigma is in the third stage.
So South backstabs North because she was jealous he had an AI and she didn't. In episode 5 of Season 10, we see the Freelancer guys compare AI's like teenage boys comparing penis sizes in the locker room. In other words... South had PENIS ENVY!
Or it might be something different. Think about it: Theta is the empathy, or 'child', of Alpha and he's paired with North. With all the looks South is giving to her brother with Theta around and with the fact that she killed North and allowed the Meta to kidnap him, South is actually jealous that North has a child and she doesn't! Oh dear...
Yet another interpretation: South feels like North's protective instincts and attention have shifted from her to Theta, and she feels thrust aside and ignored. It's classic middle-child syndrome.
I think we can all agree: South was one big bag of crazy.
Carolina is shown in seasons nine and ten to be very impatient and irritable. Well, of course; episode 6 of season 10 reveals that she originally had Sigma as her AI. Now, which AI was the evil, corrupting one again?
The Reds and the Blues seem to have a positive effect on Wash , but why would that be? It makes sense when you think about his personal history. He was part of Project: Freelancer, and the team seemed to be a very tight-nit and friendly unit, with genuinely decent people like York. However, this team eventually turned on one another, leading to a sister to kill her brother and what were true companions to become the deadliest of enemies. But then he meets the Reds and Blues- two teams that were designed to be mortal enemies, who he had no problem betraying without a moments hesitation and who have no reason to trust them. But they are also a team that is willing to forgive Wash for his actions simply for the fact that he helped them, and that they are willing to fight for each other and put their lives on the line at a moments notice for no other reasons than the odd bonds that they have, he actually finds a team that Project: Freelancer was MEANT to be but failed to be due to infighting.
Might be more to that in the very nature of how their situations were designed. The Freelancer Project was meant to be about competition, but there is one image available in nearly every room aboard the ship: The ranking table. The Freelancer Project was entirely about competition, and the competition is always in the back of their minds and when they go out on missions, they try to suppress it with their focus on the mission, but when anything goes wrong, you can start seeing the cracks form (see South and North responding with a degree of hostility to Carolina saving them, South's rage at dropping a rank, CT's disappointment possibly feeding her Face-Heel Turn, Maine and Wyoming using live ammo against Tex after losing to her repeatedly during a training exercise, Carolina pushing to get the briefcase before Tex, the list goes on and on). The BG guys are supposed to be two teams fighting against one another, but the battle they wage is entirely pointless (as was completely lampshaded by Grif in the very first episode) that is taken seriously by exactly one person. Because the competition is team in nature, it highlights the team elements rather than individualism and because they don't really have much to do, they build a pretty significant camaraderie - within the team and with the only other people in the neighborhood. When they actually have something to fight for, this parlays into True Companions and their neurological hangups take a backseat to their individual best traits. Guess what situation Wash is in.
Additionally in the BGC you have Lavernius Tucker, Dexter Grif, Dick Simmons, Michael J. Caboose, and Franklin Delano Donut. All characters with names. As far as the freelancers are concerned if one of them dies they could be replaced by someone with the same callsign.
Sigma's goal was to reach metastability, the point at which an AI can be considered human. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that pretty much what already happened to Alpha? And Epsilon seems to be moving in that direction as well ...
Another bit of fridge brilliance is that the Meta's symbol contains every letter associated with a fragment except epsilon.
It's also missing theta, so this may not mean anything after all.
In episode 6, the Freelancers and almost all of the AIs are listening as the lessons are being taught. The only exception is Theta, who doesn't seem to be paying attention and is instead balancing on a holographic skateboard. Makes sense when you think about it; Theta is a lot like a child, and it's a well-known fact that children have trouble paying attention in class.
Tex always fails at everything important she tries. In other words, she's always last. Her AI partner was Omega. Omega is the last letter of the Greek alphabet.
In episode 6 Sigma praises Carolina and then wraps around and praises Tex. Anyone with a brain cell would see that was a stupid thing to do, but Sigma is still a fragment of Church so it's only natural for him to like Tex.
I've always been certain that he was playing off of their competitiveness so he could manipulate Carolina. The guy's a master manipulator.
York may well have the same problem Simmons does. It's not that he's not a good locksmith; he is. He's just not a good FAST locksmith, which is why he keeps failing in the field where speed and performing under pressure are paramount. (Just like Simmons, who actually is smart, just not fast enough to test well under pressure.)
And this might also explain why he kept having trouble talking to Carolina. He actually wanted to impress her, get her to like him, and that stress always caused him to screw up his lines.
Caboose randomly quoting Washington in episode 8 (adding "Of all time" to Tucker calling Church the "worst wingman ever") doesn't seem as random when you consider that Wash replaced Church, who Caboose looks up to, so he started looking up to Wash, and would inevitably start quoting him.
At first, we're led to believe that the CT Tucker meets in the desert is Connie, using a voice modifier. But that raises a Headscratcher: how could Tucker, the infamous Dr. Love, the President of Boning, theCasanova Wannabe of the series, not see that CT was a girl? Now that Episode 10 reveals Connie actually died and Pillman took her armor, it all makes sense!
While it might not only be this, the fact that Tex has no trouble killing CT while Carolina has large objections is a bit of Fridge Brilliance. Carolina is the effective leader of the Freelancers and gets to know everyone on her team. Tex is the lone wolf who doesn't socialize with the other Freelancers (for obvious reasons). So when CT goes rogue, Tex has no problem seeing just another enemy while Carolina still sees her friend.
So every AI but the alpha is a fragment that represents an aspect of Alpha. Omega is rage, Epsilon is memory, Delta is logic, etc. What aspect is Tex? Failure. Every time she tries something, it ends in failure. All the time. The first thing alpha splits off of is his failure. Maybe he thought, at first, that if he cast off his failure, then the torture will stop. That's why Tex shows up before any other AI.
Tex isn't a fragment. She's a full-blown smart AI like the pre-split Alpha. Her failure trait is because her death is a strong part of the Director's memory that created her, so failure ended up being a significant part of her.
So S10 E11 reveals more hints as to the mental state of the AI's. Delta's revealed to be running numbers regularly as a way to relax - perhaps it is a way to take his mind off ... other things that he finds relaxing. And then there's Theta who has troubles sleeping, is jittery and regularly fearful that something was going to attack him at any time and would be extremely horrified if North took him out for the night. This hints to some trust issues.... which helps explain why Theta was so shy when we first met him.
An earlier entry points out that Sigma is already in the third stage of rampancy (jealousy). This is likely because he fragmented from an AI that was already rampant, so he started out that much further along the road to crazytown. In fact, you can trace Alpha's deterioration through the fragments as they appear: Each new fragment is in worse mental/emotional shape than the last.
And which AI made it to the metastability stage? Epsilon....which we know was the last AI created.
Season 10 gives a lot of shipteases for York and Carolina... this explains why Carolina hates Tex so much; she blames her for York losing his eye (in addition to her competitive streak shown last season).
Also, York died helping Tex.
Every A.I was paired with the Freelancer who was considered best suited to be their partner, right? So why was Wash considered the best match for Epsilon? Because at the time, Wash was more of a Plucky Comic Relief character. Kind of like....Caboose! Say what you will about Church and Caboose's friendship but when it really counts, Church does seem to have a little affection for the guy. So Command figured that Wash and Epsilon would get along for the same reasons. At least until Epsilon's breakdown drove Wash into becoming more jaded and cynical...
This troper wouldn't be surprised if, at some point, that particular criteria went right out the window in favor of a more "what happens if you combine diet Coke and Mentos" mentality.
And now we know ... Wash was supposed to get either Iota or Eta. He wound up with Epsilon because Carolina butted in and called dibs on both of them so she could compete with Tex.
Epsilon seems to lack Alpha and Omega's ability to jump into people's bodies and take them over at will; he can only hitch a ride in each armor's A.I. slot, seems to require some effort to switch slots, and requires Caboose's help to swap into anything more complicated like the Monitor or the Mongoose. This makes sense since, despite both of them taking the identity of Church, Epsilon isn't Alpha, but rather his own distinct entity.
It's both more and less complicated than that: Alpha could body surf because he was a smart (complete) AI. Omega is unique among the fragments in that he can body surf, but he needs an open radio channel to do it. Epsilon, despite being metastable and functioning as Pvt. Leonard Church mk.2, is limited by his origins in what he can do.
Also Wash mentions in Reconstruction that Omega "was the one who inherited that trait". It's simply an ability of Alpha's that just happened to be passed down to Omega. No other A.I. (besides Tex, who was also a smart AI and not a fragment) has that ability.
It's likely that Sister may have been in the very early stage of pregnancy, and not have known it herself, before she fell under the ice when she was ice skating with Grif. It's only after going to the hospital that they discovered she was pregnant.
Considering that she was apparently underwater for three hours and survived it's entirely possible that things just get really weird around her.
Or it could be she fell under the frozen water, ended up surfacing somewhere else, Having sex for however long, then purposefully or accidentally falling back into the lake and being rescued. Or maybe she was knocked up by mermen like tucker got knocked up by an alien.
This trope found Sister to be a bit of fridge horror when you consider the alternate ending of Season 5 has her shooting Grif over Tucker's death saying "He was nice to me!" It makes you wonder if she acts like a slut because she's afraid noone would like her otherwise. Or worse all of the men she has slept with have been awful to her. Considering Tex threatens her without physical violence but with the idea of talking behind her back and making everyone hate her I lean towards the former.
Gamma and Sigma working together: because creativity and deceit are good qualities for a villain to have.
Ever since the Freelancers were retconned from simple mercenaries in the Red vs. Blue war into a Spartan-esque team, the name seems kinda strange. But then you realize that they're not exactly a team. They competed with one another thanks to the Director's leaderboard system, as well as the whole AI schtick, which eventually fragmented the trust between them and caused them to tear each other apart.
In episode 15 every Freelancer except Tex reacted upon hearing Tex's real name. This reaction occurred in the AI fragments. The trauma the Director felt when the real Allison died was carried over to them. However, since Omega knew that "Allison" was safe, since he was implanted into her, he didn't freak out.
Perhaps Sigma incorporated Tex into the Meta to make all the fragments stable, so they wouldn't have to worry about Allison anymore.
When I first saw Omega in Reconstruction and in episode 15 of Season 10, he acted like a murder or something of the sort, yet in the Blood Gulch Chronicles, he acted like a doofus and it puzzled me at first before I realized this: the reason he wasn't brutally murdering anybody was because of the Reds and Blues personalities affecting the way he acted! Since they are so dimwitted, it was harder for them to be controlled by Omega than it would be if they were regular soldiers.
Why do the Blood Gulch guys keep getting characterized as stupid? Lazy, neurotic and incompetent, yes, but aside from Caboose they're all of at least average intelligence.
Plus, he mostly just acts like the original host if they were just really angry. Since he spent a good part of it possessing people who were either too idiotic to feel hate, carried no inherent malice to begin with, or just plain didn't care, of course he would act less threatening. When he was working with Tex, though...
And the subtle early spoiler, when Omega briefly jumps into Church, he just says "Huh, I don't feel that different". This has a double meaning: He's just getting back a fragment of himself, and he's ALWAYS ANGRY
With the apparent revelation that the Sarcophagus contains an Engineer, it suddenly makes sense for it to be in a room filled with Covenant trophies.
It might also explain Church's intense and irrational hatred of Junior.
Pretty sure that could easily be explained by watching Junior eat Caboose.
Alpha's avatar in S10E16 is animated with the Reach engine ... same as the season 9 segments inside the Epsilon unit, where Epsilon created a world from scratch based on his memories.
So, in regards to the recent revelation from episode 16, many were surprised. One, however, can be spoiled of it in epsiode 15. Of Season 9. Yes, one could discover the contents of the Sarcophagus from before Season 10 began. This can be done by looking on the box. this is a clear image of the front of the box. Now, some might find the marks on it to be...familiar. Does this look familiar? for those who don't know what this is, it is the mark left by the Huragok, otherwise known to humans as Engineers. Yes, the Rv B team just hid one of the greatest secrets of the series right under everyone's noses, and even used previously known Halo lore to back it up!
Note that in the Tucker vs. Tex fight, Tex completely owns Tucker, while Tucker manages to land a few solid hits on the Meta even though the Meta could fight Tex on equal footing. That's because Tex is a Lightning Bruiser, while the Meta is The Juggernaught. Tex can dodge most attacks Tucker can throw, but the Meta just tanks them.
It could also be explain by, as stated further up on the list, the Meta may have inherited Tex's attribute of failure when he absorbed her.
What was up with Church's uncharacteristic but genuine anger towards the Blood Gulch guys in Episode 18? Why did he turn on them like that? What brought on this sudden obsession with getting back at the Director, when he didn't seem so caught up on it before? Lightbulb! He's been living in Carolina's head and he's picking up on her emotions! Before now, we've never seen Epsilon directly bond with a person, only storage units.
Also, keep in mind Epsilon!Church just recovered all his memories. ALL of them. That includes of every instance he was tortured by the director, told his friends were killed, reliving horrors over and over again. Now he's experiencing them again. Suddenly, his rage at the team seems understandable. He's unloading all of his pent up rage, and the Reds and Blues just happen to be the unlucky target.
Also, Church hasn't been there for 90% of the gang's bonding time. He missed Sarge's speech at the end of Revelations, he was knocked out of the fight against the Meta and he was sequestered while they fought hell and high water to free him from the Epsilon unit. They're at home in Valhalla, but he's still stuck in Blood Gulch. And boy does it show.
Light bulb! Why does Wash, who was obviously friends with York and North in his Freelancer days, act like a cold bastard when he discovers their dead bodies in Recovery 1? In Episode 19, we see that both of them turned "traitor" and ended up siding with Tex. Of course, going insane from Epsilon's breakdown probably didn't help his mood either...
Hold up there, though — given what he knew, wouldn't he have understood and condoned their actions?
Counter-theory, he's so cold and distant because he's been bled dry, emotionally, over the years to the point where he didn't even react to his Ship Tease Connecticut's corpse with any sort of grief. He'd simply been fighting Epsilon's battle too long to care, anymore.
This makes a lot of sense — finding CT's armor was a "huh, so that's what happened — well, good for her" moment at most.
I agree, but another possible explanation is that it was all part of his act of not giving a shit and only caring about following orders while all along he planned to take down the Director and the Project for revenge. Also, seasons 9 & 10 were written after seasons 6-8 >.>
What was so special about Donut and Tucker for them to get real jobs after getting shipped out of Blood Gulch? They're the only sim troopers there who were able to kill a freelancer. Tucker with Wyoming, Donut with Tex.
Tucker was because of Junior. As for Donut ... who knows, maybe the diversity committee was in charge of decision-making that day.
"Necessity is the Mother of Invention." And the Mother of Invention houses Project Freelancer and all the Director's work. So what the Director is trying to convey is that he did what he had to do, for the greater good! He's a Necessary Evil!
Well, now we know why they went from their Cool Starship to their planet-side bases. Project Freelancer's motto should be "Everything we touch gets broken".
Of course Delta was able to use logic to know exactly what Church would say. You should be able to know your own logical paths, after all.
In Episode 20, during Doc's speech that the Gulch Guys, after all they've been through, still got what their hearts desired: Sarge got to lead a military mission, Wash got a new team, etc. Caboose lowers his head and says "not everyone." At first, it seems like he's talking about Church, but then you realize that all Caboose ever desired was to be Church's best friend. He was talking about himself too!
Re-watching all the season to get a friend into the show so this could be an old one. Just finished season one and something struck me about Tex's introduction. After Sarge knocks Tex out, upon getting up she sparks and sort of glitches. The explanation we're meant to take is that it's her voice filter breaking. But really it's probably just her robot body reacting to being injured. She sparks in a similar way in one of the season 10 episodes. Also, when Church gives the explanation that he is a ghost now, she immediately takes it at face value, even though it seems farfetched. In reality, Tex probably knows they are both AI at this point, and maybe I'm wrong, but the last time she saw the Alpha he was in that unit where he's just sort of lost and confused and tired. So when she sees him again, she's probably willing to accept whatever it is he's telling her, and play out that fiction, if it means Alpha is going to be more stable and functional.
It's a little thing, but I realized there's a hidden meaning to 'cockbite', the most common insult used in the series. How, exactly, would a chicken (cock) bite? With Rooster Teeth, of course!
In episode 21, Wash comments that "there's only one Tex". And when Church dives into every Tex, only one conversation is shown. Church was having the same conversation with all of them.
I thought the implication was that there was only one AI controlling the robots.
I, too, thought that he was having the same conversation with all of them. Otherwise, why would he have to split himself up?
To find which one Tex is in?
I believe the point is that the AI was controlling the robot bodies, but wasn't stored in them.
What happened was Church split himself up to talk to a bunch of Tex fragments that were in the robot bodies, but "there's only one texas" because at heart, even though they're all broken fragments, they're all still tex. Church did have the exact same conversation with all of them, and there were a lot of her.
No, that's how you interpreted what happened. The other explanations are just as valid and make just as much sense. I doubt we'll ever get a clear answer — at least, not until somebody brings it up at a con panel.
In podcast 191 Miles said that "Church split himself up to talk to all the tex robots" so mystery solved.
During the battle in episode 21, I noticed that Grif, for some reason, never used his Grifshot (Brute Shot) as a melee weapon, when it works as such just as well as it does for a gun. It can't be said that he never had the chance, as he was often close enough to one of the Texes to bonk heads, even when he wasn't about to suffer a Groin Attack. Then I realized: Grif's, well, lazy. Holding a trigger is easier than swinging a giant blade.
Might be a coincidence, but Caboose's full name is Michael J. Caboose. A fellow Beware the Nice Ones employee at Rooster Teeth is Michael Jones, though the latter gets angry a lot more than Caboose does.
Michael J. Caboose predates Michael Jones by several years.
Plus in the 'Red vs. Blue Best DVD Ever Of All Time', the interviewer calls him Micheal Jesus (hay-SOOS) Caboose.
So assuming everyone's interpreting Carolina's last line correctly, her competition with Tex suddenly makes a lot more sense as being a daughter seeking her father's approval - she's always been in the shadow of her mother and has strived to always gain the approval of a father who barely sees her because he's so focused on her long-lost mother (highlighted by how formally they speak with one another, even in private) but she probably found some solace in being ranked #1 on her father's leaderboard. Now she finds out that there's another woman who her father holds in higher esteem and, worse, held her in that esteem long before Carolina even knew about her (doing the Director's dirty work like blowing up the Oil Platform). It was never about the ranking, it was about daddy.
Why was Carolina able to bond with Church? In a weird way, he's both her brother (they were both created by the Director) and her father (being a copy of the Director and all). Naturally, the two should be able to bond.
That's why they never showed the Director's whole face! They didn't want to reveal that he has the same color as Carolina's eyes until the very end!
When Epsilon confronts the Director and cycles through the other fragments, their order of appearance matches what he's saying. "You were brilliant" — Delta; "we trusted you" — Theta; "you lied to us" — Gamma; etc. Specifically it's what was most important to each fragment. Delta was logic, Theta was trust, Gamma was deceit etc. Each one calls him out for what part of his actions hurt that fragment the most.
Omega. "-and tortured us and used us." Sigma. "Manipulated us for his own purposes. And only for what? For this? This shadow?" Omega was Rage and he did torture Alpha, along with Gamma and Sigma, and used other people's bodies. And Sigma manipulated a whole lot of everybody for his own purposes, to bring back a shadow of what he once was.
Church mentions at one point that Tex once told him she would have done anything to save Carolina. Maternal instinct, anyone?
No wonder Carolina is Not So Different from Tex! Turns out the original Allison is Carolina's Mommy!. And now we see her animosity towards Tex in a different light too: She probably resents Tex being a "shadow" of her real mother and considers Tex offensive to Allison's memory, and hates that Daddy loves his "pet" so much.
The reveal in the Season 10 finale of Capt. Flowers being Agent Florida Proves that someone at Project Freelancer has a sense of humor. After all, Florida's name is derived from from the word "Flora," in otherwords: Flowers.
In Recreation, Epsilon said his favorite color was green. Green - the color of the Director's eyes.
Or more inportantly, the colour of the Director's daughter's eyes.
Tex wasn't the only one to be based around failure. What was it that caused the Director to finally just give up? The absolute failure of everything he had ever worked for. His fancy ship was blown out of orbit. His special Freelancers were all either dead or had gone renegade. His fragments and A.I.'s had all turned their backs on him. He might have managed to avoid prison but he lost his staff and facilities. Tex was destroyed twice with some indication that she might not be able to come back from the second. Maybe worst of all? His relationship with his daughter was forever wrecked with it being implied that she had still intended to kill him until she saw how broken he was. His driving wish was a complete failure with no chance of success.
After seeing the final shot of Season 10 Epsilon-Churches Sniper Rifle I realized something, what is a Sniper Rifle's basic purpose? To blow an enemies brain apart or, shatter their mind into pieces. Therefore Alpha and Epsilon Church's obssession with the Sniper Rifle is an allusion to the fact that he had his "mind" shattered by the director, and that he is a fragment of that mind, in the cases of Alpha and Epsilon Church respectively. This fact goes all the way back to the first episode of the Blood Gulch Chronicles.
Another idea is that you can observe people with the Sniper Rifle without getting too close to them. Considering what happened to Church before he was sent to Blood Gulch, and the Director's general attitude, using the rifle is symbolic of an inability to socialize well.
The whole Allison-Beth discrepancy from the song "A Girl named Tex" was actually brilliantly solved in Season 10. Connie's data reveals that Tex's AI name is "Beta". According to The Other Wiki, the Greek letter "Beta" was derived from the Phoenician letter "Beth". So, in a way, Tex really is named Beth.
"For as long as I can remember, I've been lied to, taken advantage of..." After seeing the nature of the Alpha's Cold-Blooded Torture, I realized that Wash wasn't just talking about himself - he was also talking about Alpha, and the memories he received from him through Epsilon.
Rampancy is caused by a smart AI learning too much and becoming overwhelmed by it's own thought processes. Metastability is the theoretical state in which an AI learns to overcome the problem of over-learning (literally stable on a meta level). So it actually makes perfect sense that Epsilon!Church has become metastable. He's learned to let go of old thoughts.
In fact we can pinpoint the second he achieved metastability. "I forget you."
In S10 E5 Theta says that he has a sister. At first we thought it was Tex. We were wrong. It wasn't Tex. It was actually Carolina.
Like so many other FPS tropes were twisted in The Blood Gulch Chronicles, the idea of stats and K/D is jabbed at in The Project Freelancer Saga: in the same way that players of games like Halo and Call of Duty are accused of only being interested in their K/D (and, as a result, lose their team dynamic), several Freelancers, like South and Carolina, are dangerously obsessed with their place on the leaderboard.
Omega is the megalomania of the Director. The director is a man who's power and influence let him do terrible things so that he could gather enough control over the world to prevent those he loves from dying. When Wash mentions that Omega is his rage, we aren't talking the rage of an ordinary man, we're talking the rage of a man whose grief was so strong, he created an unethical super soldier program so that he could prove to himself he could be as much of a hero as his wife. However, while the Director is surely a Magnificent Bastard, skilled at manipulation and tactics, Omega isn't. He's that man's superiority, rage, and overbearing sense of control without his love, his trust, his creativity, his logic or his guile. Whenever we see Omega, he's highly dysfunctional and incapable of being a true threat- while the director's megalomania was truly huge, it wasn't capable of surviving in a vacuum.
Just a thought. Another troper raised the point that Wash wasn't exactly the best pair for Epsilon, but Wash wasn't originally supposed to have Epsilon. He was originally slated to pick either Eta or Iota, until Carolina butted in and demanded both so she could compete with Tex. But Carolina herself was meant to have Sigma (a whole different What Might Have Been). She gave it up so that Maine could have a means of communication after he was shot in the throat. So, if that had never occurred, presumably Sigma would have gone to Carolina, Eta or Iota to Wash, and the other of the pair to South - she several times hints or downright states that she was right behind Wash in the queue for AI. So who would have gotten Epsilon? Well, only two named agents are left by then, and Florida had a seemingly minor role, so presumably, Maine. Yes, the Meta, who spent years pursuing the idea of metastability, may have originally been slated for the one AI fragment that ended up metastable.
This goes even further. What was Maine's signature trait among the Freelancers? He was the Mighty Glacier. Endure the pain, push through, and keep fighting. If it's true the A.I. gain traits from their users the same way the users gain from the A.I., Maine might have been able to keep Epsilon from collapsing into himself under the weight of all his pain
Or, it could have made things even worse for Maine. All those horrible memories of torture, all your loved ones dying, of never being able to save those you care about the most ... I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, indeed.
Watch the finale of Season 10. When Epsilon Church flips out and rails at the Director for all he's done, he impersonates several AI fragments in turn. Pay close attention to which fragment says what, and you'll realise it's far from random:
Delta (Logic): He was brilliant...
Theta (Innocence): and we trusted him...
Gamma (Deceit): but he lied to us. He twisted...
Omega (Anger): and tortured us! And used us...
Sigma (Creativity):manipulated us for his own purposes! And for what? For this? This... shadow?
Epsilon (Memory): He needs to pay...
Texas' hyper competence. Besides it being Monty's style and the power seep that the series experienced, once we learn a bit more about her origins it starts to make sense. Texas was the mental creation of a man who deeply loved the person she was based on and also a man who commanded an elite team of soldiers. Texas was deliberately created by him as both the shadow of the person he lovedand the perfect soldier.
A really minor one. At first, I never gave much thought to the Vs. in Red Vs. Blue being in white, figuring it was just to help tthe contrast. Then I noticed that the Freelancer program seems to use a whiteish theme, so it made sense to represent all three factions. But after Revelations, when it's revealed that Project Freelancer is the one causing the "war" between teams, them being designated as the Vs. makes perfect sense!
Not sure if this counts as Fridge Brilliance or something else. But in Texas theme song from the soundtrack "On your knees" Practically every state/agent is mentioned being thrashed by Texas...Except Florida. Why is this brilliant? Because Florida both the state and the agent was erased from the Halo Universe officially.
In the episode Reconciliation, Doc and Donut are discussing how downloading a single picture of Freckles and Caboose is taking up most of the base's energy, a plot point later on and Doc notices a notification that says a post gets ten thousand likes, Basebook would fund for a rescue team. The Fridge Brilliance comes in when the joke ends (how a canyon of less than ten guys can get ten thousand likes)and you realize that there have been more people watching them. An entire planet of people with a civil war going on. The rebels, who the Reds and Blues side with later on, are willing to help them off the planet if they can help them win their war, essentially earning the likes. This is especially important when you remember the fact that the Reds and Blues are utterly incompetent soldiers. Like the picture of Caboose doing something stupid, the incompetent Reds and Blues have to earn the respect and appreciation of the Rebels in order to get their ticket off the planet.
There have been some complaints about Felix being able to handle the blood gulch crew even though he's a merc, THEN episode 6 came along and reveals he along with Locus were soldier in the covenant war and were part of one of the more gruesome battle in the war history.
A friend of mine pointed this out The New Republic makes themselves looked like the good guys and the Federal army looked like the bad guys. However the Federal Army make themselves looked good as well and make the New Republic looked bad. IT shows how grey the universe it set in (Remember the master chief may work for the UNSC but there not entirely the good guys.)
The state on Chorus: both sides are being manipulated into fighting by an independent set of much more competent soldiers. Sound familiar? Seems like the Blood Gulch crew have crashed a lot closer to home than they first thought.
Locus and Félix are more than just evil counterparts of Wash, they're representations of what he was from two different points of his life.
Locus is before. He his a solider who follows orders no matter what. He abandoned his name and does whatever it takes, no matter who he has to hurt, to complete his mission, much like Freelancer Wash, which is probably why Locus is so fascinated by him.
Félix, if he is in fact a Broken Bird, is ruthless and willing to hurt anyone, regardless of who they are, who gets in the way of his goal and doesn't seem to buy into friendship because he believes Every Man Has His Price. Much like Wash was in Season 7-8.
If not for the Reds and Blues taking Wash in and forgiving him despite all he'd done to them, Wash could still be like Félix if not worse. The Reds and the Blues have really made an impact in Wash's life.
If you think about it, the partnership between Locus and Felix is lot like the partnership between The Meta and Washington (Locus is to The Meta as Felix is to Washington).
Church is a AI program, and as of the latest episode he is finally up to super computer speeds, this makes sense when you realize he's been helping Carolina recover Freelancer tech, Freelancer tech made to operate on his OS and the fragments that came from, if there are enhancements to make people faster, invisible, stronger, stop time, and the like, there is no doubt enhancements that improve processing power, that also allows Epsilon/Church to slowly get back to where he was as a AI program.
The Meta's goal was to collect all the scattered A.I. fragments, something that Carolina has apparently succeeded in as seen in Season 12, Episode 11. However, while The Meta went insane and left a trail of Carnage wherever he went, Carolina is calm, in control, and takes pains to avoid needless bloodshed. Why did she retain her sanity and ethics while The Meta went Berserk? Maybe it's because she has such a positive relationship with her A.I.s... Or maybe it's because her actual A.I. is remembering the others and she doesn't know.
Wasn't the reason The Meta go crazy was because Sigma drove him insane and took him over, while Epsilon has no intention to and all his fragments don't exist except in his mind?
Carolina hasn't collected any AI fragments. The AI fragments Church speaks to are memories of the fragments that live on through him.
The memories of the fragments are still interacting with Church on a meaningful level, and are contributing original advice and data. Whether they are the bona-fide original fragments or not is moot; they are functionally identical. The fact that Carolina is having nightmares about Sigma also indicates that his "memory" is potent enough to affect her directly.
The Red & Blue Zealots. Especially in light of the news that all of the Red vs Blue battles are simulations and that at least some of the soldiers are put into 'lock down' when they suffer supposedly mortal wounds and can be 'reset' by F.I.L.S.S. as was the case with Donut in S8, and we realize now, Sarge in S1... what does that make the perpetually self-slaughtering and respawing festival of madness that is the Zealots? What even is the purpose of that simulation? Those questions are bad enough... but then add on to that the fact that Freelancers were supposed to get in there to train up. Man, I almost feel bad for those guys...(the Freelancers, I mean)
This troper wrote at least part of that scene off as basically being told from Caboose's flawed perspective, since he and Sarge were the only ones who saw it. On the other hand, this troper is also fairly comfortable with writing off early plot holes in BGC (particularly in comparison to later seasons) with Doylist reasons.
Of course remember this conversation
Grif's Sister: Is this the kind of thing you do often?
Grif: Yeah just run with it. It's the only thing that keeps you from going insane from boredom.
The end of Revelations seems to indicate that's definitely not the case, since he willingly took an AI so that he could fight Wash. He just wanted the power. Also, none of the AIs other than Church and O'Malley ever indicate the ability to actually take someone over, it's presumably a trait that only O'Malley and the Alpha had. Possibly Tex, but I don't actually remember her actually possessing anyone. She entered Caboose's mind with Church, but rather tellingly, Caboose only said Church's lines, not Tex's.
However, it's been confirmed that Sigma was the true mastermind behind the Meta. He likely manipulated Maine.
A personal theory of mine, is that originally the other AIs were the ones controlling the Meta. However, Maine had had so many AIs, for so long, that his mind had become completely dependent on them. When they were removed, It almost caused a complete mental breakdown. In order to save itself from permanent crippling insanity, Maine's mind adopted qualities from the various AIs. Sigma's creativity and obsession with power, Delta's logic (The previous two explaining why he's much more of a Genius Bruiser in season 8 than he is in season 9.) Gamma's treachery and Omega's viciousness. This was truly the moment that Maine died, and The Meta was born.
There probably wasn't much of the original Maine left by the time the EMP was triggered. As Washington suggested in a previous episode there were so many AI in his head that they were probably overwriting his personality into clones of themselves in one way or another, most likely predominantly Sigma's personality saving only the parts of Maine that were useful. This would explain his personality post-EMP still being as vicious, cunning, and brutally tenacious (probably the only piece of Maine left) as ever. I'd posit that he agreed to work with Washington as a recovery unit because the pieces of Sigma's personality left behind saw it as the quickest way to regain and AI and restore his full power.
Going even more into that, look at all the questions Wash asks Doc. He asks if Meta is all right. He asks his thoughts on Meta in general. He also comments on Doc psychoanalyzing him and says he should know calming techniques, so he believes Doc would know psychology. Then when Meta has Wash cornered before the plane comes down in the end, he sounds like he was hopeful Meta wouldn't turn on him. The reason why Wash kept Doc around was to have Doc study Meta, figure out how damaged he really is, and considering the implied previous friendship, Wash was probably HOPING to find a way to help fix Maine's broken mind.
Wash inherited every memory Epsilon had. Think about that. Not only does he remember the entire experience of Alpha being tortured to insanity, he remembers everything from The Director's life at the point of Alpha's creation. He has the memories of three different beings crammed in his head. One of them went insane and had to remove those memories, the other led a life of obsession over his lost love. Does no one wonder how Wash can even function, anymore?
Repression. Lots and lots of repression.
Probably this, on top of... Do you recall every single memory that happened in your own life? A brain probably can't hold comprehensive histories of three different individuals. Even if it's technically there in his head, he might not know that he "remembers" something.
Additionally, it's possible that Wash doesn't really have every memory from Epsilon. That's a lot of stuff, and while they did share a head, they were still two separate entities who were only consciously joined for a few minutes at most. Wash probably just has a lot of the stronger memories or the ones Epsilon was recalling at the time that he "killed" himself. Given how much Epsilon had gone through, even just a portion would probably feel like "all" of his memories.
It was well more than a few minutes. North said Wash was unconscious for "only a few days this time". He could've been bonded with Epsilon for weeks, or even months.
...you just made me realize: Caboose and possibly the others now treat Wash like Church Mark Two, including calling him Church. Think about this for a bit, in light of the above. (As a humorous aside, I always felt like Wash would have gone nuts regardless anyway. After all, Epsilon seems to be the closest to Church's personality out of all the AIs, and having even a non-traumatized Church in my head would sure drive me insane...)
This occurred to me just now. Tex talks about how they tortured Alpha with scenario after scenario of his friends and loved ones being killed and everything going wrong, and he being unable to stop it, with Gamma and Omega helping think up scenarios. Now remember that in Season 3, Church spends a large chunk of time trying desperately to save the lives of Flowers, Tex, and himself, and keep other bad things from going wrong, and fails miserably, including even causing some of the bad things with his actions. And Gamma helps. Well, something that used to be hilarious just got a whole more disturbing now for me.
You know that "Command: (action)" thing Wash and the other Freelancers use sometimes when talking to A.I.s? It's pretty clear the A.I. has to do what it's told in those circumstances, even if it's just advised against the action in question, or refused to follow a less direct order. So what's to stop someone from doing that to Church?
Church is a smart AI. Being sentient, he isn't bound by the same rules as a logic based AI.
Epsilon isn't, though. He's just a fragment. So what happens on the day when Carolina gets just a little too pissed off at him?
Epsilon has evolved to a point of metastability, capable of making additional fragments. He's not bound by the same rules.
That's hardly confirmed. Epsilon's rampant/metastable status has never been confirmed; there's nothing that states that fragments can't fragment further, so that doesn't mean much.
This troper is pretty sure that one of the RT staff confirmed Epsilon's status as being metastable quite a while ago.
Which will make things super interesting if Carolina/the Director/whoever doesn't know/realize that ...
Back in season 6, Theta was the one that said the very creepy 'We missed you' when Meta was taking Delta. Consider the fact York probably had Delta talk to Theta at others times causing Theta to probably get comfortable with delta, and the fact some of the more cruel AI's were in Meta as well (Eg. Omega) then you can't help but think Theta had been scared and missed his friend.
Howmuchawannabet Theta joins the ranks of the series' official woobies?
In my estimation, he's already there!
When Epsi Church was questioned about his casual kink for hot headed women his response was "yeah, I guess..." which means it's likely something he inherited from The Director. If that's the case, one has to wonder how Carolina stayed so high on the leader board even though some of her missions didn't seem to end up so great. Maybe that "anything" she would do for the Director really is anything.
I thought it was because she could keep up with A.I.-enhanced Freelancers without having an A.I. herself. Also, ewwwww.
I always kind of thought that yeah, Carolina had a bit of a... crush, ahem, on the Director. Which makes me wonder how York felt about it if they had anything going on.
If Carolina did have a crush on him, would the Director even notice? This is a man so obsessed with his dead girlfriend that when they xeroxed his brain, he spontaneously created a copy of her in the process. Not to mention that if he did notice that someone had a crush on him, he'd probably see it as another tool with which to manipulate them.
The only reason he would notice is to make Carolina a replacement for Allison. Common interpretation is Tex as a redhead, RT has been shown to know this and Lina being a redhead is no coincidence, Tex may be a more literal replacement, but Carolina is a living, breathing person who was around before Tex showed up or possibly before she was even created. It's also painfully obvious now that Tex is around Carolina seems to be falling out of the Director's favor.
Partially Jossed; the original Allison was blonde.
And now we know: Carolina was his daughter.
Seeing how close Wash, North, and York are in Season 10, it's suddenly quite disturbing to remember the first time we ever met Wash in Recovery 1. He finds York dead in one episode and then North dead in the next. Both times, he's cold as hell and brushes off their deaths like it meant nothing to him. Brrr....
Cute as Theta is, you've gotta remember how he came into this world. If he's supposed to be the playful, child-like part of Alpha, what horrific torture scenario did they use to force Alpha to fragment Theta off? Probably something that has to do with children.
Nah, I've got a scarier way for you. Try to imagine them giving you a scenario that would bring a childlike quality to the forefront of your mind (maybe childlike inquisitiveness, maybe it's something that you loved as a kid, etc.) Now they go and attack it in the most brutal and traumatic method possible until the only thing you want to do is be dispossessed of it. Sweet dreams.
Another Theta one: he's just so cute and happy about helping North out, it suddenly becomes disturbing when you realize what they're using him for: destroying people. In episode 8, the "Hail Mary" traps the bad guys in a bloody death, which is pretty disturbing when you realize the little guy was way too cheerful to help accomplish that.
Theta probably knows what he's doing and why, but doesn't understand the deeper moral issues around it. It's Children Are Innocent taken to extremes.
And why Child Soldiers are always morally bad. This is some Truth in Television - the reason you use child soldiers is because they haven't learnt that moral issues with killing.
When the A.I. fragments split from Alpha, they each embody a personality aspect (like logic, empathy, or creativity) and a personality trait (such as dry snarky humor, childlike wonder, or manipulative ambition). Now consider that of all the fragments, Sigma is the only one who doesn't wear armor (I'm not counting the ones too blurry to make out). In fact, if you look closely, he wears the same uniform as the Director. Now consider where all these aspects and traits originally come from.
He even does the hands-behind-the-back thing... *shudder* That's probably a big part of why York and Wash find him so creepy, even if they don't recognize that it's from the Director.
Alpha became more of his own person once he gained a level of experience (We even briefly hear him before his torture and he sounds cheery and almost goofy). But two of his traits are still shaped and defined by his origin from the Director. Ambition and Deceit. How messed up WAS this guy?
So we meet "CT" in recreation and he seems like your typical stupid, comically evil, puppy-kicking villain who got the laser-tastic death he deserved. But then we find out in Season 10 that he had deep feelings for the real CT/Connie, that they planned to run away together after exposing Project Freelancer, that the love of his life died and her dying words whispered to him was to get that chip into the right hands so they could accomplish their objective, and that he took on her identity as a way to remember her and carry on her dreams. And he died... without accomplishing any of that... killed by a bunch of incompetent idiots. More like a Fridge Tear Jerker, really.
Although now it seems the chip has finally gotten to someone who can use it.
Except that apparently the chip was leading them to the monitor body Church had in Recreation and the first half of Revelations. Which is now broken and lying on the floor of a warehouse, while the chip itself seemed to be damaged when Wash accessed it.
In Recovery One, Wash finds North's body and learns that Theta has been stolen by Agent Maine and Sigma. Then, at the end of Reconstruction, Wash triggers the emp with the express purpose of wiping out the A.I. fragments collected by the Meta, knowing that this would kill them. Yes folks, you read that right: Wash murdered Theta.
Oh my word, I hate you. Why did you have to even suggest that? :(
Hey, I first put two-and-two together right as I was trying to go to bed. How d'you think I felt?
Although, Wash probably knew that the AIs would survive in some form inside Epsilon, who really is more like a copy of every AI rather than its own individual. After all, he had it in his head.
The way I look at it, it's more like a mercy killing. Consider for a moment what Theta was like: a child. Now imagine sticking a child in unavoidable contact with the likes of Sigma, Gamma and Omega, who are considered the three worst fragments of Alpha. Wash did Theta a favour in detonating the EMP.
In the Blood Gulch Chronicles, when Tex and Church go into Caboose's mind to look for O'Malley/Omega, Church says this to Caboose's Mental Image of Church:
Church: First of all, you? You're not Caboose's best friend, okay? You don't have a best friend. You know why? You don't need one! You're Church! Knowing other people just waters down the experience!
Why is this Fridge Horror? Well, there's actually two possible reasons. The Alpha was put through countless stressful, horrible scenarios to break its mind. It is more than likely that the Alpha lost its ability to easily trust other people as a result. There's also the less awful idea that since the Director was arrogant and cold towards others, Church/the Alpha inherited that trait.
Church lost the ability to trust people. He lost the ability to trust people after Theta was fragmented. Theta was his Trust. Losing Theta, he lost his Trust. Oh my god...
It's revealed eventually that Church is not a ghost like he thinks, but is instead the Alpha. Now, the Alpha is a "smart" AI, one that is subject to side effects from the Halo Universe. All AI's eventually turn to rampancy. Church is living on a set amount of time unless there's something preventing it.
Alpha died at the end of season 6. The Church we have now is Epsilon, and he's already been through rampancy and out the other side.
All this time we've been blaming the Director for everything that went wrong with Project Freelancer. However, episode 13 of season 10 reveals that Wash and South were originally going to be paired with Iota and Eta. Carolina insisted on taking them both so she could compete with Tex, meaning Wash got bumped down the list and paired with Epsilon. Plus, it was Sigma and Gamma that gave her the idea by telling her about Omega. Things just got a lot more complicated.
Not to mention, she gave up Sigma to Maine so he could communicate, dooming him to become Sigma's puppet. And robbed South of having an AI at all, thus fueling her envy, causing her to leave her brother for dead. If Carolina hadn't done what she'd done everyone might be alive today.
It is initially the Director's fault anyway. He's the one that set up the competitive nature of the matter and gave Texas special, secretive treatment that caused the rifts. If the Freelancer missions had encouraged teamwork and assignments according to skills and temperament versus ranking, then the results all around would have been better off. (The Counselor even lampshades this in episode 2, when he notes that North and South weren't the best people for the job, but the Director goes by the rankings/competition.)
I agree with the above. Honestly, Carolina might have been guilty of ambition and negligence as a leader, but it's hardly her fault that Project Freelancer went wrong. It was doomed from the beginning when the Director tortured an AI to harvest off fragments, and then implanted those unstable fragments into people's head without letting them know the potential dangers. It might've been indirectly because of her that Wash got Epsilon, but someone would've gotten Epsilon down the road. It's also been mentioned as early as the Blood Gulch Chronicles that many Freelancers got stuck with defective AI's and went crazy, Wyoming included.
This is where the distinction between "fault" and "responsibility" comes into play. Is it Carolina's fault? No. It's the Director's, 100%. But her actions contributed to the problem, so she shares some of the responsibility. A lot of her current characterization could be explained by the fact that she hasn't come to terms with that yet.
Of course, it's debatable whether all the things would've happened anyway. Sigma wanted to gain metastability, regardless of his implantation into Maine. It's possible he would've just taken over Carolina instead of Maine had she agreed to keep him.imagine just for a minute what would happen if instead of Maine the meta was Carolina. As for the AI, the Director was planning on holding out on someone (since part of the project was determining the jealousy level of someone without an AI). It backfired every single time (first Connecticut, who rebelled, then Carolina, who demanded one, and then finally South, who left her brother and Wash for dead). Besides, if Carolina hadn't taken both, then there would be no need for the Epsilon unit, and then the Director might've gotten away with the whole thing.
This also explains why Washington and Epsilon never bonded like North and Theta, or York and Delta, and continue to have a largely frigid relationship. Washington got the leftover, rather than Eta, the AI supposed to be partnered to him.
Here's one :Going from episode 13 of season 10 it looks like Gamma was in on Sigma's plan to merge the AI back into a smart AI. He also knew about Omega and Wyoming's plan back in the Blood Gulch Chronicles to possess Junior to control the aliens by corrupting their religion from the inside. Now imagine if these plans overlapped at some point...
And then think about how season 7 showed that AI can inhabit Forerunner technology... which the aliens worship...
Here's a little more: Omega and Gamma worked together in the past. It's possible that Omega knew what Sigma was doing thanks to Gamma. Suddenly Omega's declarations of conquering the universe don't seem so comical anymore.
It was a bit weird that the first person at Carolina's bedside in episode 14 wasn't York or Wash, but Wyoming; aside from his cold demeanor, his interactions with her had been much less friendly than those two had been; notably, she ordered him to charge at two minigunners, whice he ignored, and in the previous episode, she whipped her helmet off at him in a fit of rage. But last episode, it wasn't just Maine's AI that had been giving her suggestions... and with Maine and Wyoming in the infirmary (granted that Maine was seeing a doctor about his headaches), that means that Sigma and Gamma were also there...
If AIs are created the same way in RvB as in Halo, the Director would have had to flash-clone himself and then kill the clone to create Alpha.
They flash-cloned his brain, as the partial flash-clone is much more practical.
Also worth noting that Halsey already did this when she created Cortana
The scenarios that the Alpha was put through were designed to break its mind, right? And after each fragmentation, the Director and the Counselor harvested the fragments. This has a whole new layer of horror to it because after each fragmentation, the progressing scenarios probably became even worse for the Alpha. Not just because the Director made them worse; the Alpha lost pieces of its mind, and as such, its ability to solve problems and figure out solutions became less.
Of course Church hates everyone so much. Because a part of him remembers how much it hurt to care about everyone instead and have them hurt and taken away due to his own mistakes. Much safer to hate them all instead.
What's even worse is that the scenarios specifically target his care for a certain agent so whatever fragment that emerged would care about that agent and bond with him or her.
So we finally find out what's in the Sarcophagus, and what it's used for. Remember the first time we see Alpha in Season 9? He was running calculations for the mission to retrieve the Sarcophagus, the very instrument that would help in fragmenting him later on. Blissfully ignorant.
Episode 14 shows how the AI's are implanted into the armor: the unit is grafted into the base of their skull. If the Meta was stealing the Freelancer's armor enhancements and AI units, then, unless Sigma could transfer the AI into Maine's head, he would have been ripping the unit out of his victim's neck. Brutal.
The implant appears to allow a direct neural link, but the AI can be transferred and carried without it.
So Alpha was tortured with the prospect of all his comrades dying. Remember in BGC the way Church screamed when he thought Wyoming killed Caboose? Yeah.
Omalley was in on the torture of Alpha. Then you look back at Tucker's pregnancy. "Oh you'll do it or else your little friend Tucker will die and you'll spend years wondering if you could have saved him." Doesn't seem like such and comedic threat given Alpha's fear of losing people.
I don't know if this is a Fridge of Horror or Brilliance... but here goes. Imagine South's feelings up to Episode 19. She gets "cheated" out of an AI. Her friends and teammates go rogue one by one, and she sees them as traitors. Wash goes insane, stopping her from ever getting that coveted AI. Tex shows up, brutally attacks all the people she's worked with, blows up her home, and just when South's about to stop Tex, her own brother shows up and turns against her. Yes, she's a brat. But damn, her own team-killing tendencies were probably born during this incident, when she found herself betrayed by Tex, York, and even her own brother.
Am I the only one who thinks Wash isn't quite insane yet, and that there's more to come with him? He seemed pretty (mega air-quotes here) "okay" after they pulled Epsilon. Also, from the sound of it, Epsilon hasn't offed himself yet. The way they've handled the other big moments, I just can't seem them having that happen off-screen.
So the Director "kept trying" to recreate Alison, enough times to build a small army of "her" (I use the term loosely). So, was he working from copies of Beta, or did he keep recreating Alpha until he could get what he wanted? In halo you make an AI by MURDERING A FLASH CLONE OF YOURSELF. So how many times did he commit sorta suicide. And if it's the latter, what did he do with the leftovers? If the brain is the only part needed to make an AI and no mention of how he ever got food is given ...
For that matter what has he been doing to the Tex copies after he made them?
And what did he do to get Omega? Again?! Good God, what is wrong with this guy?
You want Fridge Horror. I've got Fridge Horror. The Director tortured Alpha by placing him in scenarios where people he cared about died despite everything he did to prevent it. And what happened to Alpha? He eventually gave his life in an attempt to protect his friends from the Meta and see The Director punished for his crimes. And it didn't work. His entire existence was one failure after another and not even sacrificing his life was enough. And all he wanted to do was help the people around him.
Thats not Fridge Horror consider what would've happened if Church didn't go with Wash, The Meta would've killed Wash and stole the rest of A.I. that were in storage... and then it would have gone after Epsilon probably killing the entire Blood Gulch Crew including Caboose,Alpha succeeded in the end in stopping The Meta,saving his friends, and basically living on in Epsilon and that was no failure.
Considering that Church is a copy of the director, does that mean that Church, pre-fragmentation, was capable of doing all the horrible things that the Director did?
I doubt it. The Director's actions revolve around his memories and unresolved issues with Allison, which had fragmented from Alpha and became Beta. Alpha is probably what the Director would be had he let go of those feelings.
Also consider the inverse. Church is capable of doing good/being a real hero, and of great kindnesses. What granted Church that ability, or, possibly, what took the ability away from the Director?
"I am disappointed by your decision to press charges, but I am not surprised. My only hope is that the courts will see the matters differently than you have. You see, I never had the chance to serve in battle, nor did fate provide me the opportunity to sacrifice myself for humanity as it did for so many others in the Great War. Someone extremely dear to me was lost very early in my life. My mind has always plagued me with the question, if the choice had been placed in my hands, could I have saved her? The memory of her, has haunted me my entire life, and moreso in these last few years than I could ever have imagined. But given the events of these past few weeks, I feel confident that had I been given the chance, I would have made those sacrifices myself. Had I only the chance."
End of Episode 21, Church splits apart to talk with the AIs running the Tex copies. The conversation we see is almost an exact replica of the scene where Tex attempted to free the Alpha, complete with Tex not even knowing her own name. So, it seems the director is so far gone that however he got a copy Tex, he subjected it to the same sort of fragmentation process (mental torture) that he did to the Alpha. So he did that, to the AI ghost of the woman he loved, in order to get her "right", to use Epsilon's terminology. What. The. Fuck?
If the project's motto is "Everything We Touch Gets Broken", the Director's motto should be "What The Hell Is WRONG With You?!"
Alternatively: "Know when to quit."
"Just let it go, 'cause man... it's gone."
Episode 22 reveals that the Director is Carolina's father, and that Alison was her mother. That's bad enough, until you realize that Carolina has effectively been competing with and fighting against the closest thing she had left to her mom this entire time, without either Carolina or Tex realizing it. In a really sad way, Project Freelancer has caused Carolina to wind up hating both her father, and through Tex, her mother. Just . . . . . DAMN.
Now, remember when the Director walked in on Carolina and Tex about to fight? Think of what was going through his mind now that we know that Carolina is his daughter. He was about to watch the two most beloved women in his life battle to the (possible) death.
And THEN remember that he left her screaming on the floor when the AIs were in her mind.DAMN!
And THEN remember that Tex/Beta/Allison SAW HER DAUGHTER ATTACKED, THE AI CHIPS RIPPED FROM HER NECK, AND THROWN OFF A CLIFF TO HER DEATH. And she had to run away and leave Carolina to her fate. Another massive failure to Tex, I'm sure.
There is another aspect to Carolina's identity as the Director and Allison's daughter. Think about the events she has gone through. Every mission she went on either failed or almost did thanks to her actions. They nearly lost the briefcase because she lost her cool and made it personal. She tries to recapture CT alive, but ends with her death and armor lost. She wanted to be the top Freelancer, but couldn't compete with Texas. The guy she has feelings for? Turns against her and dies before they reconcile. That's right, Carolina ALSO continuously fails at the last second when something was on the line just like Texas. This also puts the Director's actions in a new light: he was seeing both his attempts to keep his love alive continue to suffer the same Fatal Flaw over and over again.
More of a Fridge Tearjerker, but... Caboose still doesn't have his best friend, Church.
Not really serious, and more Fridge Squick than anything else, but the whole Church in Carolina's bike part, the jokes about it tend to be sexual, but it gets kind of Squicky when you learn in episode 22 of season 10 that Church is a copy of Carolina's father. Not wonder it felt awkward for the guy.
Re-watching Season 10, something occurred to me: the Director's actions cost a lot of people their lives, and the lives of people they loved just as much as he did Allison. And considering the second CT, Carolina and York, Alpha, and so many more, in his attempts to fix his pain, he only ensured that others suffered the same loss and sadness he did. The only ones to escape the cycle were the ones willing to do what he wouldn't and let the past go.
AI fragments are created by torturing Alpha with the knowledge that someone he cares about dies, right? And each AI has their own designated Agent, because Alpha fragmented the memory of that Agent after living through the scenario of them dying. Sigma was originally paired with Carolina. Now we know who Carolina's parent's are, I realized: Sigma was created when Alpha was forced to watch his own daughter die!
All of the terrible things that have happened in the series are really twice as bad as they seem. Instead of just thinking about what would have happened if the project never existed think about what could have resulted if the Directer and co had used their intelligence and resources for good! If they wound up creating a metastable AI despite the total breakdown of the project, just imagine what they could have accomplished had they done things right. They could have completely revolutionised AI technology! They could have worked out metastability!
Halo spoiler: Perhaps they could have even saved Cortana.
Halo affects RvB, but not the other way around (unfortunately).
Well, it's all a what-if anyway. The Director could've helped Cortana if he was a good guy, but he wasn't and he went crazy and killed himself, so he wouldn't help Cortana, even if 343 decided to pull a Canon Immigrant Besides, there's tons of other canonical ways that Cortana can come back to life for Halo 5, but that's a subject for WMG.
This screencap◊ points out that Wash... was probably Project Freelancer's Caboose!
Let's clarify why this is Fridge Horror. Caboose is, in one word, happy. Washington... is not. In Recovery 1, Wash sees the bodies of his old comrades and pretty much walks away, without a single fuck given. If Washington is the Freelancer equivalent of Caboose, couldn't Caboose become just as cold, heartless, and cruel? Caboose, the guy who fell in love with a tank, got a pet mini-mecha, and made best friends with the remnants of the most traumatized characters in the series?
Since his introduction, Freckles has repeatedly tried to kill members of Red Team, threatened Tucker and Wash with death several times, shot at Simmons during a misunderstanding (involving a ball), and has attacked Sarge after the latter pointed the Warthog's turret at him. But those aren't the scary parts. What's scary is that Freckles has little to no understanding of sarcasm (as demonstrated when he demotes Washington and places Caboose in charge after a sarcastic remark from the former), and the closest thing that he has to a Morality Chain is Caboose. We've already seen that Freckles has absolutely no problem whatsoever with killing members of his own team (bar Caboose); so this begs the question: Given the Neo Blood Gulch Crew's love of sarcasm, exactly how long is it until an offhand remark sends Freckles on a killing spree?
I think they're safe. Until Caboose was promoted, while Freckles did mainly listen to Caboose, it was implied that he will also listen to the "commanding officer"; at the time, Washington. When Caboose was promoted, he became (likely) the only person Freckles will obey. I can't really recall the last time Caboose said something sarcastic, so the only way he could accidentally send Freckles on a killing spree would be by saying something stupid that gets misinterpreted, and then leaving before he can tell Freckles "No! Bad Freckles! No killing!" Which doesn't seem like something he'd do, given how attached he's grown to Freckles.
Prior to Blood Gulch Chronicles, it appears that Church had a human body (partly evidenced by some of the stuff Epsilon said at the beginning of Season 8), which leaves one wondering where the body came from. Was Alpha overwritten over another person?
York assisted Tex with the break-in partly by damaging the ship, which made it crash. When Carolina was thrown clear of the ship, it let Maine get to her. This means York was indirectly responsible for Carolina getting the AI ripped out of her head, thrown off a cliff, and presumed dead. Given the logs Epsilon plays for Carolina in Season 10 present day, he either didn't know this had happened or was in complete denial that she was probably dead—and the logs imply the latter, that he was desperately searching for news of her in hopes he'd find out she survived. Which he never did.