History Fridge / RedVsBlue

5th Feb '16 6:12:22 AM Jeroic
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* [[spoiler: In ''The End'' the Reds and Blues are taking the alien gear and elite weaponry from the Chairman's museum. Simmons, seemingly against all logic, grabs a simple pistol. According to the DVD commentary, though, it wasn't just any gun: it was the notoriously O.P. HaloCombatEvolved pistol!]]
2nd Feb '16 4:00:58 AM zerohelix
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** Wasn't the reason The Meta go crazy was because Sigma drove him insane and took him over, while Epsilon has no intention to and all his fragments don't exist except in his mind?
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** Wasn't the reason The Meta go went crazy was because Sigma drove him insane and took him over, while Epsilon has no intention to and all his fragments don't exist except in his mind?

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** Wasn't * According to ''{{Halo}}'' [[AllThereInTheManual lore]], the reason The Meta go crazy was ability to wield an energy sword is considered so impressive in elite society that anyone who can master one can mate with any female they desire. [[CasanovaWannabe Tucker can't pick up women to save his life,]] [[MrSeahorse but he does get chosen to be impregnated with an elite parasite, specifically because Sigma drove him insane and took him over, while Epsilon has no intention to and all he had his fragments don't exist except in his mind?sword!]]
26th Nov '15 9:02:14 PM GCG
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* Caboose's stupidity is generally played for laughs, but it turns ino both this and Fridge Sadness when you look back at season 1. In his initial appearance, Caboose was not nearly as dumb as he is currently. He expressed the capabilities to be lwed (calling Church's girlfriend a cow/ expressing sexual desires for Sheila, though that last one may actually be Omega expressing sexual desires) and getting angry at Sheila for killing Church. He genuinely regretted his first Team Kill, and strongly desired to make amends. Now, he apparently has completely forgotten how reproduction works (his confusion when Junior came around) and generally doesn't care/acknowlage when he commits friendly fire (Shooting Private Jones in the back and nearly killing South when told she was on their side). A big difference. Like I said, he was somewhat normal upon his introduction. However, he was shortly infected by Omega. And then he was subsequently entered by Tex and Church while Omega was still rooting around in his head. Now, Carolina nearly killed herself by having two AI's, relatively minor and weak ones at that, in her at once. Omega and Tex were some of the smartest [[spoliers: A.I. splinters, and Church was the Alpha.]] It would be pretty much impossible for him to survive this experience without some mental damage. This, and multiple other examples such as being locked in his armor with no access to outside air for two days, several forced A.I. Ejections (like the one that nearly drove Wash over the edge), the battle between three A.I.'s in his head, and allegedly consuming gasoline, all suggest Caboose has permanent brain damage. Essentially, his time in Blood Gulch drove him from a somewhat dumb, but semi-normal person into a man utterly devorced from reality and entirely dependent on Church or the closest thing that he thinks resembles Church.
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* Caboose's stupidity is generally played for laughs, but it turns ino both this and Fridge Sadness when you look back at season 1. In his initial appearance, Caboose was not nearly as dumb as he is currently. He expressed the capabilities to be lwed (calling Church's girlfriend a cow/ expressing sexual desires for Sheila, though that last one may actually be Omega expressing sexual desires) and getting angry at Sheila for killing Church. He genuinely regretted his first Team Kill, and strongly desired to make amends. Now, he apparently has completely forgotten how reproduction works (his confusion when Junior came around) and generally doesn't care/acknowlage when he commits friendly fire (Shooting Private Jones in the back and nearly killing South when told she was on their side). A big difference. Like I said, he was somewhat normal upon his introduction. However, he was shortly infected by Omega. And then he was subsequently entered by Tex and Church while Omega was still rooting around in his head. Now, Carolina nearly killed herself by having two AI's, relatively minor and weak ones at that, in her at once. Omega and Tex were some of the smartest [[spoliers: A.[[spoiler:A.I. splinters, and Church was the Alpha.]] It would be pretty much impossible for him to survive this experience without some mental damage. This, and multiple other examples such as being locked in his armor with no access to outside air for two days, several forced A.I. Ejections (like the one that nearly drove Wash over the edge), the battle between three A.I.'s in his head, and allegedly consuming gasoline, all suggest Caboose has permanent brain damage. Essentially, his time in Blood Gulch drove him from a somewhat dumb, but semi-normal person into a man utterly devorced from reality and entirely dependent on Church or the closest thing that he thinks resembles Church.
26th Nov '15 8:59:54 PM GCG
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* Caboose's stupidity is generally played for laughs, but it turns ino both this and Fridge Sadness when you look back at season 1. In his initial appearance, Caboose was not nearly as dumb as he is currently. He expressed the capabilities to be lwed (calling Church's girlfriend a cow/ expressing sexual desires for Sheila, though that last one may actually be Omega expressing sexual desires) and getting angry at Sheila for killing Church. He genuinely regretted his first Team Kill, and strongly desired to make amends. Now, he apparently has completely forgotten how reproduction works (his confusion when Junior came around) and generally doesn't care/acknowlage when he commits friendly fire (Shooting Private Jones in the back and nearly killing South when told she was on their side). A big difference. Like I said, he was somewhat normal upon his introduction. However, he was shortly infected by Omega. And then he was subsequently entered by Tex and Church while Omega was still rooting around in his head. Now, Carolina nearly killed herself by having two AI's, relatively minor and weak ones at that, in her at once. Omega and Tex were some of the smartest [[spolier: A.I. splinters, and Church was the Alpha.]] It would be pretty much impossible for him to survive this experience without some mental damage. This, and multiple other examples such as being locked in his armor with no access to outside air for two days, several forced A.I. Ejections (like the one that nearly drove Wash over the edge), the battle between three A.I.'s in his head, and allegedly consuming gasoline, all suggest Caboose has permanent brain damage. Essentially, his time in Blood Gulch drove him from a somewhat dumb, but semi-normal person into a man utterly devorced from reality and entirely dependent on Church or the closest thing that he thinks resembles Church.
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* Caboose's stupidity is generally played for laughs, but it turns ino both this and Fridge Sadness when you look back at season 1. In his initial appearance, Caboose was not nearly as dumb as he is currently. He expressed the capabilities to be lwed (calling Church's girlfriend a cow/ expressing sexual desires for Sheila, though that last one may actually be Omega expressing sexual desires) and getting angry at Sheila for killing Church. He genuinely regretted his first Team Kill, and strongly desired to make amends. Now, he apparently has completely forgotten how reproduction works (his confusion when Junior came around) and generally doesn't care/acknowlage when he commits friendly fire (Shooting Private Jones in the back and nearly killing South when told she was on their side). A big difference. Like I said, he was somewhat normal upon his introduction. However, he was shortly infected by Omega. And then he was subsequently entered by Tex and Church while Omega was still rooting around in his head. Now, Carolina nearly killed herself by having two AI's, relatively minor and weak ones at that, in her at once. Omega and Tex were some of the smartest [[spolier: [[spoliers: A.I. splinters, and Church was the Alpha.]] It would be pretty much impossible for him to survive this experience without some mental damage. This, and multiple other examples such as being locked in his armor with no access to outside air for two days, several forced A.I. Ejections (like the one that nearly drove Wash over the edge), the battle between three A.I.'s in his head, and allegedly consuming gasoline, all suggest Caboose has permanent brain damage. Essentially, his time in Blood Gulch drove him from a somewhat dumb, but semi-normal person into a man utterly devorced from reality and entirely dependent on Church or the closest thing that he thinks resembles Church.
26th Nov '15 8:57:45 PM GCG
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* Caboose's stupidity is generally played for laughs, but it turns ino both this and Fridge Sadness when you look back at season 1. In his initial appearance, Caboose was not nearly as dumb as he is currently. He expressed the capabilities to be lwed (calling Church's girlfriend a cow/ expressing sexual desires for Sheila, though that last one may actually be Omega expressing sexual desires) and getting angry at Sheila for killing Church. He genuinely regretted his first Team Kill, and strongly desired to make amends. Now, he apparently has completely forgotten how reproduction works (his confusion when Junior came around) and generally doesn't care/acknowlage when he commits friendly fire (Shooting Private Jones in the back and nearly killing South when told she was on their side). A big difference. Like I said, he was somewhat normal upon his introduction. However, he was shortly infected by Omega. And then he was subsequently entered by Tex and Church while Omega was still rooting around in his head. Now, Carolina nearly killed herself by having two AI's, relatively minor and weak ones at that, in her at once. Omega and Tex were some of the smartest [[spolier: A.I. splinters, and Church was the Alpha.]] It would be pretty much impossible for him to survive this experience without some mental damage. This, and multiple other examples such as being locked in his armor with no access to outside air for two days, several forced A.I. Ejections (like the one that nearly drove Wash over the edge), the battle between three A.I.'s in his head, and allegedly consuming gasoline, all suggest Caboose has permanent brain damage. Essentially, his time in Blood Gulch drove him from a somewhat dumb, but semi-normal person into a man utterly devorced from reality and entirely dependent on Church or the closest thing that he thinks resembles Church.
8th Nov '15 3:33:36 PM Angryboy
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Washington receiving AI and going mad
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** In Season 13, it is stated that Wash refuses artificial intelligence after the events with Epsilon. Other characters (such as the strong-minded Carolina) suffered greatly from having two AI, while others (Caboose) simply became more brain-damaged from such events (he had three at one point, before they were forcibly ejected by Church); Washington should be dead at this point. Although technically, he had the Epsilon for a split second before they removed it. When receiving the AI, he sees a single memory (that of Allison leaving for duty), so its possible this is the only one he does receive and everything else (knowing who Allison is, for example) just comes from Councilor/Director letting him know what the memories mean.
8th Nov '15 3:27:15 PM Angryboy
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**** Washington changes his armour to blue (with yellow stripes to let viewers know who he is) at the end of Season 8, and then reverts back to black (most likely a call-back) in Season 11.
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**** Washington changes his armour to blue (with yellow stripes to let viewers know who he is) at the end of Season 8, and then reverts back to black (most likely a call-back) in Season 11. The blue represents his joining of Blue Team and essentially taking Church's place, while the Black possibly references the earlier mentioned rogue freelancer. Its possible that black is because he technically takes command of both teams.
8th Nov '15 3:25:14 PM Angryboy
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Washington's armour colour, Lopez lying about killing sister, love-story
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**** Washington changes his armour to blue (with yellow stripes to let viewers know who he is) at the end of Season 8, and then reverts back to black (most likely a call-back) in Season 11.

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** As it turns out, Lopez lied about this, presumably because he just wanted to rejoin the Reds (for whatever reason). Sister is still very much alive.

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** Director/Allison is later continued in Church/Tex as they're both memories of Director/Allison with fake data used to fill the gaps. Depending on how you look at it though, its more of an arms-race story between [[spoiler: Charon vs Project Freelancer]].
8th Nov '15 3:14:20 PM Angryboy
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Doc is a pacifist, hence not wanting to kill anyone.
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*** The most likely reason for Doc never letting people die is because, as he has stated before, he is a pacifist. He also states at the end of Season 8 that he took an oath, and that is why he cannot kill anyone even if they are asking him to. This is reversed somewhat in Season 13 when he becomes much more violent (granted he is influenced by his O'malley split personality).
8th Nov '15 12:48:57 PM passivesmoking
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** And this also means that Tex was constantly being pursued not by an AI copy her lover, but by one of the ugliest aspects of hiss personality... not only is this even more FridgeHorror, it also makes sense why Tex would keep rejecting the other versions of Church now. She had her head full of his ugly side and couldn't escape it, and now she's traumatised to the point where she really can't return the other versions of Church's affection any more.
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** And this also means that Tex was constantly being pursued not by an AI copy of her lover, but by one of the ugliest aspects of hiss his personality... not only is this even more FridgeHorror, it also makes sense why Tex would keep rejecting the other versions of Church now. She had her head full of his ugly side and couldn't escape it, and now she's traumatised to the point where she really can't return the other versions of Church's affection any more.
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