History Fridge / RedVsBlue

3rd Sep '17 10:28:15 PM countmall
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* A couple concerning Flowers/ Florida:
** First, the long paise he gave while talking to Tucker could make sense after the Florida reveal. Considering how cold and ruthless he was revealed to be, he could have been signaling Wyoming to shoot him, and stalling for time.
*** Or maybe he was signaling him to shoot Tucker.
** Secondly, why he picked Tucker for the Blue Team. The other guy seemed to be more useless, being so obsessed with being a good listener he actually forgets to listen to anything. Considering Flowers was actively seeking out useless people, the guy seems more useless then the sex-crazed but otherwise lucid Tucker. Of course, since this was the guy Flowers was going to be interacting with almost constantly, it would make sense that he wouldnt go with his absolute bottom choice. Not to mention Tucker was intended to be his second in command, so the other guy would have been too much of a legitimate liability.
1st Sep '17 9:58:06 AM streakson22
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** Omega's attribute is rage, and he's also known for being an over-the-top evil villain. [[spoiler: Temple is extremely angry (see the time he shot Jax for criticizing his backstory, or when he was angry at the Reds and Blues for making friends with Freelancers), and also quite theatrical.]]

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** Omega's attribute is rage, and he's also known for being an over-the-top evil and self-aware villain. [[spoiler: Temple is extremely angry (see the time he shot Jax for criticizing his backstory, or when he was angry at the Reds and Blues for making friends with Freelancers), and is also quite theatrical.theatrical and aware of the fact that he's a villain.]]



** Gamma's Attribute is deceit. [[spoiler: Temple manipulates other sim troopers into fighting for him.]]

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** Gamma's Attribute attribute is deceit. [[spoiler: Temple manipulates other sim troopers into fighting for him.]]



** Even the Beta's attribute, failing to achieve its goal when it's just within reach, can be seen in Temple. [[spoiler: He had a plan with Biff to get him medically discharged, but chickened out at the last minute, which led to Biff's death. When he finally trapped a Freelancer who was actually responsible for Biff's death, Locus stepped in and freed her before she could die. The Reds and Blues managed to completely stop his machine before it could do any harm, and he ended up in prison.]]

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** Even the Beta's attribute, failing to achieve its goal when it's just within reach, can be seen in Temple. [[spoiler: He had a plan with Biff to get him medically discharged, but chickened out at the last minute, which led to Biff's death. When he finally trapped a Freelancer who was actually responsible for Biff's death, Locus stepped in and freed her before she could die. The Reds and Blues managed to completely stop his supposedly unstoppable machine before it could do any harm, and he ended up in prison.]]
1st Sep '17 7:58:31 AM streakson22
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* The aspects of Temple's personality that are distinctly un-Church-like can be compared to the Alpha fragments, which were part of Church's personality before they split off from him.
** Omega's attribute is rage, and he's also known for being an over-the-top evil villain. [[spoiler: Temple is extremely angry (see the time he shot Jax for criticizing his backstory, or when he was angry at the Reds and Blues for making friends with Freelancers), and also quite theatrical.]]
** Sigma's attributes are creativity and ambition. [[spoiler: Temple has a unique way of killing his victims and a grand scheme to destroy the UNSC.]]
** Gamma's Attribute is deceit. [[spoiler: Temple manipulates other sim troopers into fighting for him.]]
** Theta's attributes are trust and the inner child. [[spoiler: Temple trusts his colleagues to carry out his plans, and sometimes [[PsychopathicManchild behaves like a child.]]]]
** Epsilon's attributes are memory and insanity. [[spoiler: Temple obviously kept his memories, and he's clearly gone insane.]]
** Eta and Iota's attributes are fear and happiness respectively. [[spoiler: Temple shows genuine fear when he thinks Tucker is going to stab him, and happiness in killing his victims and when he thought Biff may still be alive.]]
** Even the Beta's attribute, failing to achieve its goal when it's just within reach, can be seen in Temple. [[spoiler: He had a plan with Biff to get him medically discharged, but chickened out at the last minute, which led to Biff's death. When he finally trapped a Freelancer who was actually responsible for Biff's death, Locus stepped in and freed her before she could die. The Reds and Blues managed to completely stop his machine before it could do any harm, and he ended up in prison.]]
** The only thing he's missing is Delta's logic. [[spoiler: If he were thinking logically, he would've shot all the Freelancers he locked in place instead of leaving them to die of starvation. He also foolishly thought he could drill straight through the Earth and attack the UNSC from underneath.]]
24th Aug '17 12:42:41 PM yarol2075
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* Locus is so far the only character to understand Lopez properly. Turns out that Locus' real name is [[spoiler: Sam Cortez, suggesting a bloodline that traces back to Spanish/Mexican roots]]. That name was dropped quite casually during season 14 so it took a while for that particular nugget to sink in but we finally get an explanation as to why Locus is bilingual.

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* Locus is so far the only character to understand Lopez properly. Turns out that Locus' real name is [[spoiler: Sam Cortez, Ortez, suggesting a bloodline that traces back to Spanish/Mexican roots]]. That name was dropped quite casually during season 14 so it took a while for that particular nugget to sink in but we finally get an explanation as to why Locus is bilingual.
20th Aug '17 11:55:23 AM New_Jack_Swing
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* The Blues and Red's Grunts, with the possible exception of the Battle Creek Zealots, are all ridiculously obnoxious and immoral. But given that Temple has a definite WithUsOrAgainstUs mentality, this makes absolute sense; No decent or sane people would align themselves with the Blues and Reds once they found out what lines they were willing to cross, or live long enough to warn anyone. This would also explain the lack of familiar faces besides the Zealots (for example, the Reds from Rat's Nest) among the Blues and Reds' ranks.

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* The Blues and Red's Grunts, with the possible exception of the Battle Creek Zealots, are all ridiculously obnoxious and immoral. But given that Temple has a definite WithUsOrAgainstUs mentality, this makes absolute sense; No no decent or sane people person would align themselves with the Blues and Reds once they found out what lines they were willing to cross, or live long enough to warn anyone. This would also explain the lack of familiar faces besides the Zealots (for example, the Reds from Rat's Nest) among the Blues and Reds' ranks.


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** In a more meta sense, the Blue and Red grunts are similar to the earlier sim troopers in that they're both parodies of online nuisances. The Battle Creek sim troopers acted like ''{{Franchise/Halo}}'' players that communicate in LeetLingo, while the Blue and Red grunts act like [[{{Troll}} internet trolls]] that throw around politically incorrect statements [[{{GIFT}} for their own amusement]].
20th Aug '17 7:17:55 AM streakson22
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[[spoiler: Season 1 Church forgetting what Season 15 Caboose said about him dying makes sense, considering his first "death" was getting blown up by Sheila. After he came back as a "ghost", he probably thought he was in the clear and didn't think anything else of it.]]

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* [[spoiler: Season 1 Church forgetting what Season 15 Caboose said about him dying makes sense, considering his first "death" was getting blown up by Sheila. After he came back as a "ghost", he probably thought he was in the clear and didn't think anything else of it.]]
20th Aug '17 7:15:49 AM streakson22
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[[spoiler: Season 1 Church forgetting what Season 15 Caboose said about him dying makes sense, considering his first "death" was getting blown up by Sheila. After he came back as a "ghost", he probably thought he was in the clear and didn't think anything else of it.]]
19th Aug '17 9:40:15 PM streakson22
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* The Blues and Red's Grunts, with the possible exception of the Battle Creek Zealots, are all ridiculously obnoxious and immoral. But given that Temple has a definite WithUsOrAgainstUs mentality, this makes absolute sense; No decent or sane people would align themselves with the Blues and Reds once they found out what lines they were willing to cross, or live long enough to warn anyone.

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* The Blues and Red's Grunts, with the possible exception of the Battle Creek Zealots, are all ridiculously obnoxious and immoral. But given that Temple has a definite WithUsOrAgainstUs mentality, this makes absolute sense; No decent or sane people would align themselves with the Blues and Reds once they found out what lines they were willing to cross, or live long enough to warn anyone. This would also explain the lack of familiar faces besides the Zealots (for example, the Reds from Rat's Nest) among the Blues and Reds' ranks.
19th Aug '17 9:29:41 PM MMTrigger
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* It's made clear that Temple ''really'' doesn't care for Loco, though there is a reason for it besides Temple just being a Jerkass; it was Loco's makeshift flag that killed Biff.

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** Not to mention that the Grunts in this case are the other Sim Troopers. Not only do they have traits that make them unfit for the actual military, chances are some of the teams are similar enough to the Blues and Reds to have the same reactions they did to learning the truth.
* It's made clear that Temple ''really'' doesn't care for Loco, though there is a reason for it besides Temple just being a Jerkass; JerkAss; it was Loco's makeshift flag that killed Biff.
17th Aug '17 1:21:55 PM ml0085
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* It's made clear that Temple ''really'' doesn't care for Loco, though there is a reason for it besides Temple just being a Jerkass; it was Loco's makeshift flag that killed Biff.
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