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To-do list:

  • Split the trope in the following ways:
    • Split off a trope for “deep voices signaling an authority figure" (unisex)
    • Split off a trope for “deep voices signaling a physically strong character" (unisex)

    Original post 
Note: This thread was proposed by Ayumi-chan.

Badass Baritone is supposed to denote a character who is tough and "badass" by giving them a deep voice. However, Like other Badass tropes, It became a ZCE magnet, and a few examples attracted some gushing especially in regards to the actors/voice actors that portray such characters.

Here are the results from my Wick Check: (Thanks Yindee for the organization help!)

  • Valid- (7/52)
  • No mentions of the character being a badass- (11/52)
  • ZCE- (24/52)
  • Maybe/Not sure- (10/52)

Fortunately, There are 2 solutions I can think of:

  1. Disambiguate with other deep voice related tropes (Contralto Of Danger, Evil Sounds Deep, Power Makes Your Voice Deep etc.).
  2. Retool the trope to signify deep voices with masculine characters (Much like how Manly Facial Hair was retooled from Badass Beard and Badass Mustache) as well as yard it for deep voices symbolizing a leader/authoritarian figure.

Wick check:

As brought in here Badass Baritone has a lot ZCEs, Possible Misuse (Its supposed to denote a tough character via deep voice), among others. So I'll check if there's an overarching problem with it.

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52/52

  • Valid- (7/52)
  • No mentions of the character being a badass- (11/52)
  • ZCE- (24/52)
  • Maybe/Not sure- (10/52)

    Valid 
  1. Fire Emblem Heroes Midgard (Gustav)/ Badass Baritone: The tough king of Askr, with a very deep voice to match, courtesy of Joji Nakata and Edward Bosco. Valid
  2. Far Cry 3 (Dennis)/ Badass Baritone: He has a deep, mature voice, and he's an African warrior of the Rakyat tribe. Valid
  3. Horizon Zero Dawn - Tribes(Aratak)/ Badass Baritone: His voice is deep and commanding, as befits a powerful tribal chieftain. Valid
  4. LEGO Marvel Super Heroes (Wolverine)/ Badass Baritone: Has the usual low register to provide the usual badass image for Wolverine. Valid
  5. Now and Then, Here and There (Elamba)/ Badass Baritone/Evil Sounds Deep: In the english dub his voice is much deeper to emphasize the ruthless warrior he is and seems to lower as his cruelty becomes more apparent. Comes naturally when you have the same voice as the Shredder. Valid
  6. Transformers Prime Autobots/ Badass Baritone: He's got a deep voice and a deep love for combat. (Wheeljack) Valid
  7. Punch-Out!!/ Badass Baritone: In the Wii game, he speaks with the deepest voice of all the boxers next to Mr. Sandman. He's easily one of the tougher opponents in the game as well, if you haven't figured out how to deal with his attacks. (Great Tiger) Valid
    No mention of badassery 
  1. The Locked Tomb (Silas)/ Badass Baritone: It's noted by Gideon's narration that he has a rather deep No mentions of the badass part
  2. Resident Evil - Albert Wesker/ Badass Baritone: He has a very deep and booming voice. No mentions of the badass part
  3. Live A Hero (Monomasa)/ Badass Baritone: Has a very deep voice, though it is unclear if this is Drovain's own voice or if he is using Monomasa's. No mention of the badass part
  4. The Testament Of Sister New Devil Moderate Faction (Rasmus)/ Badass Baritone: Both Tesshō Genda and Christopher Corey Smith provide a deep, booming voice of Ramsus. No mention of the badass part
  5. Kamen Rider Revice / Weekend (The Masked Man)/ Badass Baritone: His present self has a deep, almost metallic sounding voice, courtesy of Shinshu Fuji. No mention of the badass part
  6. Doom (2016): UAC and ARC (Samuel Hayden)/ Badass Baritone: His deep voice has drawn more than a few comparisons to Peter Cullen's take on Optimus Prime. Doesn't explain the badass part
  7. Knives Out (Benoit Blanc)/ Badass Baritone: Blanc's Southern accent blends extremely well with Daniel Craig's natural deep voice. no mentions of the badass part
  8. Sybal-Heim (Basileus)/ Badass Baritone: His deep voice is portrayed with black speech bubbles instead of white. No mentions of the badass part
  9. Team Fortress 2: The Engineer/ Badass Baritone: Maybe not as much at launch, but Grant Goodeve tends to use a noticeably deeper voice for lines added in later updates. No Mention of the badass part
  10. Metroid - Bounty Hunters (Ghor)/ Badass Baritone: His voice is significantly deeper in his battle suit. It's most obvious in the conversation you have with him on the first mission to Norion. Mixes with Evil Sounds Deep after his corruption. no mention of the badass part
  11. Puyo Puyo Fever (Possessed Klug) / Badass Baritone: His English voice acting in his Tetris 2 DLC appearance has an impressively deep and intimidating pitch. no mention of the badass part

    ZCE 
  1. Berserk: Guts/ Badass Baritone: Damn, even his voice is badass! And it was shown (or rather, heard) in the anime that Guts went through some major puberty at around age 14 or 15 since he already has a deep voice by then. It just adds to the sexiness. ZCE plus creepy gushing
  2. Pastamonsters Enderman And His Allies (Enderman)/ Badass Baritone: Especially when he sings ZCE
  3. Trails Series Erebonia Ironblood (Rufus Alberea)/ Badass Baritone: To emphasize his noble bearing and combat prowess. ZCE
  4. Final Fantasy XV - Kingdom of Lucis (Regis Lucis Caelum CXIII)/Badass Baritone: It gives him a fitting air of command and gravitas. ZCE
  5. Helheim Hassle (Bear Death)/ Badass Baritone: He has this up until his identity is revealed. After that, his voice is considerably less baritone and badass. ZCE
  6. Bravely Default Protagonists (Ringabell)/ Badass Baritone: He has a rather deep and smooth voice in the Japanese dub. Not so much in the English version. ZCE
  7. Trails Series Calvard Arkride Solutions Office/ Badass Baritone: Part of the parcel when you're a badass martial artist played by Daisuke Ono. (Van Arkride) ZCE
  8. Trails Series Calvard Arkride Solutions Office/ Badass Baritone: As expected from the man who voiced Snake and Big Boss, Bergard has a really deep voice. (Bergard Zeman) ZCE
  9. Borderlands: Hyperion (Vasquez)/ Badass Baritone: God bless you, Mr. Warburton. ZCE plus gushing
  10. Tsukihime: Supporting Cast (Nrvnqsr Chaos)/ Badass Baritone: He's voiced by Joji Nakata. ZCE
  11. The Man from U.N.C.L.E. (2015) (Napoleon Solo)/ Badass Baritone: American accent or not, that is Henry Cavill's natural voice. ZCE
  12. Hololive Holostars Japan Generation Three (Oga Aragami)/Badass Baritone: Has one of the deepest (if not the deepest) voices among the Holostars. This is heavily abused during Oga's cover of Love Live!'s 'Snow Halation' during a collab singing session. He later mentions during a late-night talk stream that because his voice is naturally low, it can be difficult for people to hear him clearly, which causes him to raise his voice, which in turn spooks people. ZCE plus possible IRL troping
  13. The X Factor USA Season 2 (Willie Jones)/ Badass Baritone ZCE
  14. Destiny The Guardians (Commander Zavala)/ Badass Baritone: Has one of the deepest voices in the game and you do not become Titan Vanguard without reason. ZCE
  15. A Dragon in Shining Armour (Alphamon)/ Badass Baritone: Alphamon is described as having a deep voice. ZCE
  16. Tada Never Falls in Love (KittyBig)/ Badass Baritone: The voice in his heart one could easily mistake for James Earl Jones. It's not though. ZCE
  17. Witch Cartoon Allies(Vathek)/ Badass Baritone: He has a deep voice in the animated series. ZCE
  18. Tales of Xillia (Gaius)/ Badass Baritone: In the dub, courtesy of Travis Willingham. ZCE
  19. Jak and Daxter (Sig)/ Badass Baritone: Courtesy of his voice actor. ZCE
  20. Okupas (Pollo)/ Badass Baritone: Has quite a deep voice. ZCE
  21. Saints Row The Third Street Saints (Keith David)/ Badass Baritone: A given, as he is one of the go-to voices for such an archetype in Hollywood. ZCE
  22. Total War: Warhammer - The Greenskins (Grom the Paunch)/ Badass Baritone: During the trailer of The Warden and the Paunch, Grom had a voice almost as low as Grimgor's. While significantly higher-pitched in game, his voice is still notably deep for a goblin and far deeper than Skarsnik's. ZCE and no mention of the badass part
  23. Transformers Prime Autobots/ Badass Baritone: Comes with being voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson. (Bulkhead) ZCE
  24. Transformers Prime Autobots/ Badass Baritone: Comes with being voiced by Michael Ironside. (Ultra Magnus) ZCE
    Unsure 
  1. Like a Dragon: Kazuma Kiryu/ Badass Baritone: Takaya Kuroda, an actor with a notably deep voice, plays Kiryu with pure, unadulterated badass. He also uses it to great effect whenever he sings. Darryl Kurylo's no slouch in this regard, either. Maybe valid
  2. Splinter Cell: Fisher Family (Sam Fisher)/ Badass Baritone: He's one of the most lethal men on the planet, and he's voiced by Michael Ironside in almost all appearances. His distinct low growl is often the last thing his opponents ever hear. Also counts for Daniel Beretta in the European French version. Maybe valid (Note: I combined it with the subbullet so I won't get confused during counting)
  3. Super Robot Wars UX (Agnes "Agni" Berge)/ Badass Baritone: He has a slightly deeper voice in Act 3, signifying his more serious and professional attitude at this point. Maybe Valid
  4. Kirby - King Dedede/ Badass Baritone: In games where he is voiced, Dedede is liable to have a bellowing, kingly voice. It's greatly emphasized by his tendency to roar, and he indeed has the strength to back it up. Maybe Valid
  5. The Elder Scrolls Online (King Fahara'jad)/ Badass Baritone: He has a very deep voice and is a capable king. Maybe Valid
  6. Kingsman: Kingsmen (Merlin)/ Badass Baritone: Merlin has a deep voice and is the Kingsmen's resident Badass Bookworm. Mayhaps
  7. Soul Eater: Troubled Souls - Headmaster And Staff (Lord Death)/Badass Baritone: During his Let's Get Dangerous!! moments, otherwise his voice is chipper and goofy. Unsure
  8. Transformers Prime Autobots/ Badass Baritone: Peter Cullen's voice has only gotten more deep over the years, and even more badass.(Optimus Prime) Not Sure
  9. Transformers Prime Autobots/ Badass Baritone: He's got a deep voice and can fight with the best of them. (Cliffjumper) Maybe Valid
  10. Punch-Out!!/Badass Baritone: The Wii version gives him an impressively deep voice to make him even more intimidating. (Mr. Sandman) Maybe



Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 1st 2023 at 1:22:27 PM

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#126: Apr 13th 2023 at 3:38:34 AM

I turned Contralto of Strength into a redirect to Baritone of Strength as requested.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 13th 2023 at 5:39:07 AM

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#127: Apr 13th 2023 at 4:38:29 AM

[up] Thanks!

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#128: Apr 14th 2023 at 2:57:34 AM

D Ouble post, but I've been dewicking Main/ for a while and I'm kinda unsure on my edits for Child-Like Voice cause the trope is supposed to be unisex as well as COD being on the trs checklist.

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#129: Apr 14th 2023 at 4:40:49 AM

[up]I think that edit looks fine.

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#130: Apr 14th 2023 at 6:55:51 PM

Here aa question from the Authority Sounds Deep tlp that I dont know how to answer:

So we have Baritone of Strength and now this draft for Baritone Of Authority. In case a strong character is in power (which they often are), two baritone tropes will apply? My lumper heart is saddened.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Apr 14th 2023 at 10:12:23 PM

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#131: Apr 15th 2023 at 7:19:42 PM

[up] Bumping.

Also worth noting that a few examples of BOS are just moving BB entries without explaining the strength part.

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#132: Apr 15th 2023 at 7:22:52 PM

Yep, happens all the time. If you catch people doing it, I suggest sending a notifier.

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#133: Apr 15th 2023 at 7:48:34 PM

[up] Okie-dokie

What about the question [up][up][up][up], because I don't know how to respond tbh.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Apr 15th 2023 at 10:49:40 PM

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#134: Apr 16th 2023 at 2:40:32 AM

Bumping again, because I want to respond to the question, but I don't know how.

Edit: responded saying it was part of the TRS.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Apr 17th 2023 at 9:35:02 PM

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#135: Apr 17th 2023 at 7:43:21 PM

Double post, but I decided to nuke the "Authority sounds deep" TLP since it might be redundant with BOS. If anyone wants to yard the trope, go right ahead.

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#136: Apr 18th 2023 at 5:59:21 PM

Another post, but I been dewicking examples for the Characters/ pages.

And if I'm gonna be honest, If I had a cookie every time I see an entry along the lines of "Has this voice" and "he's voiced by [insert deep voiced VA here], it's a given", I'd have an uncomfortable amount of cookies.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Apr 18th 2023 at 8:59:55 PM

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#137: Apr 20th 2023 at 6:11:28 PM

B section of Characters/ is now done!

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#138: Apr 21st 2023 at 6:50:58 PM

Been doing more dewicking (albiet slowly) with the C section of Characters/ complete. Just as I predicted, a lot of it is just "he has a deep voice" examples.

I'm also looking over at Baritone of Strength and hiding any examples that are just moved BB entries without explaining the strength part.

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#139: Apr 22nd 2023 at 6:55:15 PM

Characters/ D and E are now dewicked!

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#140: Apr 24th 2023 at 2:59:33 AM

Characters/ F is now done

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#141: Apr 24th 2023 at 8:02:12 PM

Character/ G is now done!

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#142: Apr 27th 2023 at 12:15:53 AM

Characters/ H done!

Btw, I noticed people have been potholing BOS in place of BB. Any thoughts on that?

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#143: Apr 27th 2023 at 2:35:44 AM

[up]Probably a case of someone seeing that the trope was renamed/split and changing the wick to the new name, but not taking into consideration whether the wick actually fits.

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#144: Apr 27th 2023 at 4:21:49 AM

Restarted the Authority Of Deep TLP and erockk re-raised the question in regards to the trope and BOS (in the context of Asskicking Leads to Leadership). How can I answer this question without being condescending.

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#145: Apr 27th 2023 at 5:54:01 AM

[up]I don't know how to answer because I don't know what the original post being referenced is, since there's no link to it.

Edit: Made a post saying a link to the original post would be useful.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 27th 2023 at 7:54:48 AM

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#146: Apr 27th 2023 at 6:00:41 AM

[up] They were reffring to this comment.

"So we have Baritone of Strength and now this draft for Baritone Of Authority. In case a strong character is in power (which they often are), two baritone tropes will apply? My lumper heart is saddened."

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#147: Apr 27th 2023 at 6:07:58 AM

[up]I don't think the overlap is a problem, but that's just my $0.02 and not a mod statement. We have analogous tropes for baldness (Bald of Authority and Bald Head of Toughness).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 27th 2023 at 8:09:29 AM

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#148: Apr 28th 2023 at 8:33:51 PM

So I've been seeing misuse on BOS wicks which just moves them from BB. What should I do? Just hide them with a note about explaining the strength part (as I have been doing for a while) and send the occasional notif or just delete them outright?

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#149: Apr 29th 2023 at 12:07:10 AM

[up]I'd just cut them if they're misuse.

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#150: Apr 29th 2023 at 12:23:33 AM

[up] How's this for the edit reason: "If it doesn't explain the strength then it doesn't fit".

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