Complete Monster Cleanup

Can someone help me sort this out?

@Wrong

I really don't think either of them have any problems. The high heinous standard was discussed in regards to them already.

FWIW, Wiki says "Yau Kin-kwok as Shaho Gang Leader Tong".

Let's try this:

• Once Upon a Time in China:
  • First film:
    • Jackson, an American dignitary, is a corrupt sociopath who runs a side business selling the Chinese as slaves, especially selling attractive women as prostitutes. Using the Shaho Gang as his personal army of thugs, Jackson orders an attack on the province's governor and hero Wong Fei-Hung at an opera, having his men fire into the crowd of civilians. When confronted by Fei-Hung at the end, Jackson attempts to use the Governor as a hostage while trying to kill Fei-Hung and his friends.
    • Tong is the leader of the Shaho Gang, who participates in the massacre at the opera house and abducts innocents to be sold in Jackson's slave trade. Terrorizing the province and murdering at will, Tong also kidnaps Wong Fei-Hung's Love Interest, Aunt 13, and makes clear his intention to rape her. When she fights back, Tong attempts to drag her to a boiler to burn her face off.
  • Once Upon a Time in China II: High Priest Kau-Kung, master of the White Lotus sect, leads a crusade against anything even vaguely Western. Having his followers burn every Western item they can find, Kau-Kung even has Western dogs burnt alive before sending his men into the streets to attack and murder those with Western items, technology or clothing. Kau-Kung has his followers attack multiple institutions, including a school for children to learn foreign languages, with Fei-Hung barely saving the lives of the children. He then has the foreign embassies besieged, intending to have every Westerner within massacred along with any Chinese citizen seen as a "collaborator."

Edited by SkyCat32 on May 4th 2023 at 10:39:07 AM

For a rewrite/expansion: Moff Gideon, known for his war crimes even among the horrible Empire, is a mild-seeming man who helped lead the attack on Mandalore. In what was dubbed the Night of a Thousand Tears, Gideon led a mass slaughter and bombing campaign that saw the abject genocide of Mandalore's population with the survivors scattered, even going back on his word to stop the massacre should Bo-Katan surrender the Darksaber to him. Returning to try to capture the infant force-user Grogu, Gideon tries to harvest the child's blood to help craft a legion of force-sensitive clones and lead a new conquest of the galaxy. Making Mandalore his base, Gideon intends to subjugate the Mandalorians regardless of how many he has to kill in his mad quest for power.

Here's the rewrites for the Fallout baddies, assuming Doc Morbid is staying. My previous entries have too much unnecessary info, way too long for no reason.

• Fallout:
  • Morpheus is the psychopathic High Priest of the Children of the Cathedral. Originally a member of the sadistic Rippers, Morpheus left the gang to form his own doomsday cult and jumped at the opportunity to join the Unity. Collaborating with The Master solely for power, Morpheus is responsible for recruiting new soldiers for the Master to use in his war against humanity, brainwashing his followers into believing that being "baptized" in FEV is a good thing. Morpheus has any critic of the Unity assassinated and wants to exterminate the Followers of the Apocalypse for catching on to their plans. If his church is set to explode, Morpheus will quickly run away by himself, abandoning all of his people to die.
  • Doc Morbid initially presents himself as merely an arrogant and unpleasant man, but is revealed to be greed personified. As Junktown's resident physician, Morbid offers medical assistance for enormous prices and is the only doctor in the wasteland to force his patients to pay him for the examination. Those who refuse to pay him are murdered by his bodyguards and their bodies are taken to his underground lab, where they are butchered into small pieces and sold to Iguana Bob—the remains are then cooked to look like iguana bits and given to the unsuspecting citizens of the Hub.
• Fallout 3: Eulogy Jones is the most callous crime boss to ever have set foot in the Capital Wasteland. Killing his predecessor to establish his own empire at Paradise Falls, Jones oversees the human trafficking with an iron fist, keeping the slaves in check by installing explosive collars on their necks. Eulogy's cruelty extends to his own personal slaves, whom he abuses and rapes on a regular basis—one was reduced into a subservient sex object suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. More horrific is Eulogy's interest in enslaving children, having kidnapped children from Little Lamplight and planning on kidnapping more to sustain his business.

Edited by TheMadCr0w on May 4th 2023 at 1:08:16 PM

Love the Gideon expansion! Likewise to the Fallout ones, Crow!

Edited by Ravok on May 4th 2023 at 8:41:15 AM

Lighty’s Gideon expansion and Fallout rewrites

Edited by therealjackieboy on May 4th 2023 at 8:35:40 AM

I like the rewrites

Sky: Please add to the appropriate film Sandbox and YMMV. Also, "the Shaho Gang" can be potholed to The Triads and the Tongs.

• The Mandalorian: Moff Gideon, known for his war crimes even among the horrible Empire, is a mild-seeming man who helped lead the attack on Mandalore. In what was dubbed the Night of a Thousand Tears, Gideon led a mass slaughter and bombing campaign that saw the abject genocide of Mandalore's population with the survivors scattered, even going back on his word to stop the massacre should Bo-Katan surrender the Darksaber to him. Returning to try to capture the infant Force-user Grogu, Gideon tries to harvest the child's blood to help craft a legion of Force-sensitive clones and lead a new conquest of the galaxy. Making Mandalore his base, Gideon intends to subjugate the Mandalorians regardless of how many he has to kill in his mad quest for power.

To the new re-writes

Pothole changes.

• Black Widow (2021): General Dreykov is the man who runs the Red Room. Having abducted or purchased numerous girls, including Natasha and Yelena, Dreykov subjects them to nightmarish training to become "Widows", assassins whom he can use while having murdered Natasha's mother for trying to find her daughter. With horrific training that sees only one in twenty girls survive, Dreykov later turned his injured daughter into a brainwashed assassin after she was scarred and intends to use his Widows to enact enough chaos and death across the world that he might control things from the shadows, viewing each of the Widows he's taken as nothing more than the recycling of a "useless resource" in the girls he corrupts and destroys.

To:

• Black Widow (2021): General Dreykov is the man who runs the Red Room. Having abducted or purchased numerous girls, including Natasha—whose mother Dreykov murdered for trying to find her daughter—and Yelena, Dreykov subjects them to nightmarish training to become "Widows", assassins whom he can use; only one in twenty girls survives the horrific training. Dreykov later turns his own injured daughter into a brainwashed assassin after she was scarred and intends to use his Widows to enact enough chaos and death across the world that he might control things from the shadows, viewing each of the Widows he's taken as nothing more than the recycling of a "useless resource" in the girls he corrupts and destroys.

Edited by ACW on May 5th 2023 at 6:49:59 AM

I think we can remove the Boba Fett pothole, season 3 adds enough context (and I think replays the same relevant scenes?) to get the same weight as that episode’s flashbacks.

Can anyone confirm that? If it actually replays the scenes, I'm fine removing that pothole, but if not...

Somethign we may need to discuss...

So, Snow Shark had a deserved CM from General Coy Hall. Few things. First off, Brian Berry has done a sequel that goes completely fucking insane (four words: Snow Shark In Space)

So, Tyk did Hall back when, but...so the general is based on a good friend of author Brian Berry's, author Coy Hall. Like the real Coy Hall, the general has a dog named Duncan who he seems to actually like.

Hmm, that could change things.

Any keepers in the sequel?

I guess cut Coy then. Always feels weird when a cut like this happens.

(Also sharks in space. I think I need to read these)

I think cut Snow Shark guy.

An absolutely baffled to cutting the General... I really hate it when someone who should count as a CM gets chopped because of one tiny little Informed Attribute...

Actually... Is this shown on-screen or just talked about? Because if it isn't shown directly in the story then I don't see it as being redeeming due to it's absence from his actual character...

Cut the General.

Nothing baffles me more than the OG Injustice Joker cut over one seemingly throwaway line IMO.

Edited by Mr-ex777 on May 6th 2023 at 12:18:17 AM

I'm sorry what?! When and how?!

Hall opens the book with his dog. At the end when he’s heading back to earth he says “I wonder how poor old Duncan is doing!”

Cut Hall from the book with the amazing title.

Injustice Joker was cut because they adapted his Batman & Captain America incarnation's hatred of Nazis. The animated Injustice movie cut that, so that version is still up.

Edited by EmeraldEmperor on May 5th 2023 at 12:36:11 PM

Cut the General

Cut the General.