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As seen in the Do we have a project to disambig works? Ask The Tropers, there are many works pages that seem to need disambigs, by virtue of sharing names and having no differentiation.

This thread is for the discussion and listing of what to do about such pages.

See here for a list of needed disambigs.

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  • Then there is pages like The Host which is for the Korean film but has a bunch of wicks referring to the adaptation of The Host.

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Edited by Twiddler on Oct 27th 2023 at 2:10:56 AM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#601: Aug 5th 2022 at 6:30:40 AM

Started doing that. Gotta go do a thing...

Gotta remember to request School For Scoudrels as a disambig between the films and Sensei for Scoundrels.


Manhua.Bloodline has issues with eventual year conflict with:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1270282/

Among other films?

Edited by Malady on Aug 5th 2022 at 6:37:21 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#602: Aug 8th 2022 at 8:53:58 PM

Thinking whether this is a common enough term to use for a disambig, since at least Sparrow and Bright seems to sorta use it that way?

Or might The Time of Myths be the wrong trope, if this history book uses it to describe the Enlightenment or something?

Age Of Wonder:

''Age Of Wonder'' may refer to:

* [[Fanfic/AgeOfWonder A fanfic.]]
* The video game, ''VideoGame/AgeOfWonders''
* TheTimeOfMyths.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.
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Edited by Malady on Aug 8th 2022 at 8:54:26 AM

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#603: Aug 10th 2022 at 10:02:45 AM

So have there been any discussions about the two Pinnochio movies coming out this year? The one by Robert Zemekis for Disney and the one by Guillermo Del Toro for Netflix?

The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#604: Aug 10th 2022 at 1:51:50 PM

[up] I believe the official title for del Toro's Pinocchio is literally Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio, since that's what the trailer advertises it as.

So, we can probably save Pinocchio (2022) for the Disney remake.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Aug 10th 2022 at 4:52:31 AM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#605: Aug 14th 2022 at 8:36:15 AM

Disambiguated The Rolling Stones already, but Pinball.The Rolling Stones has wicks. Should it be The Rolling Stones Stern or something else?

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#606: Aug 14th 2022 at 12:01:26 PM

There's two Rolling Stones pinball machines: [1] [2]

Rolling Stones (1980) by Bally

The Rolling Stones (2011) by Stern Pinball

Searching on TV Tropes, "(Bally)" and "(Stern)" are both used as disambiguations for various pages.

Edited by Twiddler on Aug 14th 2022 at 12:05:59 PM

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#607: Aug 14th 2022 at 1:23:58 PM

Don't forget about the Rolling Stones magazine.

Kirby is awesome.
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#608: Aug 14th 2022 at 2:03:14 PM

That one's singular, so it doesn't need to be disambiguated. It should be listed on the disambiguation page, but nothing beyond that.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
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BlackFaithStar lmao from 🇲🇾 (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#610: Aug 14th 2022 at 4:42:20 PM

I'm new to this so I'd like feedback please.

I'm making pages for some Just Shapes & Beats fan-comics, two brief ones by the same artist that I wish to make without using sandboxes are It's Over For Me and its one-shot crossover spinoff Lost In Blue, both in the Webcomic/ namespace.

The latter's to-be page would collide with VideoGame.Lost In Blue. Would the right thing to do be to make the fan-comic's page Webcomic.Lost In Blue Vine Bunny (to appear as Lost In Blue (VineBunny) ) so subpages won't collide? But then, if yes, should It's Over For Me be Webcomic.Its Over For Me Vine Bunny for consistency's sake or just Webcomic.Its Over For Me since it doesn't yet collide with any work pages?

Many thanks in advance.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#611: Aug 14th 2022 at 5:05:35 PM

"(VineBunny)" yes. Fan Works get less name priority than original works.

But can keep their regular names if no collide.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#612: Aug 16th 2022 at 8:46:43 PM

Not sure how many "Asunder"-s are in the Naruto fandom. FanficRecs.Naruto For Want Of A Nail Fics has one, MoralEventHorizon.Fan Works, has another, and then there's You're Not My Father and Second Love.

Not sure if any of them are the same one as any other.

Then there's the review.

This post.

Edited by Malady on Aug 16th 2022 at 8:49:10 AM

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#613: Aug 16th 2022 at 9:56:36 PM

They're all referring to something called Naruto Asunder (or Naruto: Asunder), not just Asunder, and I can't find any other fics by that title, so I assume it's the same one, this one (which the fanfic rec and the Second Love entry link to).note  The review was moved from the fanfic recs page and mentions "Wrath", a shortening of the author's handle.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#614: Aug 17th 2022 at 4:35:48 AM

Right, I was trying to match up the quotes, and at least the You're Not My Father "Mom" and "Dad" call are split over separate lines in:

https://fanfiction.net/s/5403644/23/

But I can't source any other quoes, although I've only tried Father and Horizon, up to chapter 20?

Edited by Malady on Aug 17th 2022 at 4:48:02 AM

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#615: Aug 17th 2022 at 5:46:55 AM

I searched all the chapters and couldn't find them either. Hm..

Average NOOB added the MoralEventHorizon.Fan Works example as well as the Second Love one, so I'd assume they're referring to the same one.

Maybe ~Average NOOB can help clear this up?

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#616: Aug 17th 2022 at 7:53:00 PM

In even stranger things, there's two Fight For The Lost fan works, with the Characters belonging to the Roleplay.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#617: Aug 27th 2022 at 11:56:19 PM

I think Tourist Trap can be made into a disambig page since there's a film and a web original with the name

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#618: Aug 28th 2022 at 9:30:05 AM

We have TV channel I.O.N and Manga I.O.N. The wikiword is correct for the latter, while the former is all lowercase letters.

We can move the former to Creator.Ion Television.

Edit: Done. I assume we are moving the manga as well?

Edited by Berrenta on Aug 28th 2022 at 11:35:51 AM

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#619: Aug 28th 2022 at 11:53:58 PM

[up] Would it be a good idea to move the manga page and its subpages to a disambiguated title by year? As in Manga.Ion 1997?

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#620: Aug 29th 2022 at 6:17:53 AM

Not a great idea, there's nothing else using the name according to Wikipedia, unless you've got some indie game or something called "Ion" you wanna make a page on?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_(disambiguation)

Creator pages usually don't trigger disambigs because their Subpage potential is low. Especially when they're companies and not people.

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lmao
#621: Aug 29th 2022 at 3:36:33 PM

So, Music.IRIS is currently about Will Ryan's (of DAGames) solo music project. Despite it being in all-caps and showing as IRIS, it clashes that of Series.Iris, which shows up as Iris.
Currently, Trivia.Iris and YMMV.Iris refer to the series, and concern for how to make subpages for the music act was brought up here.

However, some wicks for Music.Iris refer to a different music act by the same name, a synthpop duo. See here from Dark Wave:

  • Iris (Now-disbanded duo comprised of Reagan Jones and Andrew Sega, not to be confused with the solo act by Will Ryan)
    • Hallowed Hearts (Founded by Alex Virlios and Andy Sega in the wake of Iris's dissolution)
There's also this in 10-Minute Retirement:
  • Andrew Sega and Reagan Jones put their synthpop act Iris on indefinite hold after a falling-out following the supporting tour for 2010's Blacklight, but their spark was reignited in 2013 after Jones sent three song sketches to Sega, leading to the production of Radiant, released in Fall 2014. Averted with their official and likely final split in 2021, though Sega has founded a new duo, Hallowed Hearts, with singer Alex Virlios.

So to break this down into steps:

  1. What would the disambiguated title for the synthpop duo by Andrew Sega and Reagan Jones be? Music.Iris Band to be Iris (Band)? Any other options I'm not aware of for disambiguating music pages? Mind that a page for this music act doesn't exist yet.
  2. Then there's Will Ryan's solo act. I was thinking the moved title to be Music.Iris Will Ryan to show as IRIS (Will Ryan). But if its Spotify profile and this Fandom wiki page is anything to go off of, it could be moved to the rename Music.Iris Official instead, although the songs are also shared on the DA Games channel still under just "IRIS".
  3. What of the Series/ page? I Should it be moved to a disambiguated title by year, as in Series.Iris 2009, and its subpages moved accordingly? Any feedback (otherwise)?

Googling "Iris music" gives a few results which don't match either of the above mentioned music acts anyway. note  Might this warrant a disambig for Main.Iris?

~eXimiusMax pinging you to this because you stated the concern with Music/IRIS clashing with Series.Iris - I haven't checked on Will Ryan's IRIS in a while, I'd appreciate if you can give feedback on what title that music act should go to please (as I've explained in #2 on the numbered steps list).

Many thanks in advance again for the help.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#622: Aug 29th 2022 at 4:31:31 PM

Multiple musical acts with the same name. Tricky.

Can they be split into something like British / American, etc? Else I'd put the Duo in "(Duo)", or "(Synthpop Duo)" if we're really concerned.

...

I'm against "IRIS (Will Ryan)". Multiple names in a page name is very confusing. I'd have the disambig just say "An alias of Will Ryan".

Edited by Malady on Aug 29th 2022 at 4:33:42 AM

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#623: Aug 29th 2022 at 7:31:03 PM

Splitting between American and British may be possible, the synthpop duo is American while Will Ryan is British.

On the other hand, if we opt to Music.Iris Official for Will Ryan's solo act, then the other could be Iris (Band). Googling "Iris official" does give Will's IRIS as the first result.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#624: Aug 29th 2022 at 7:39:00 PM

Just discovered today:

We have the TV series Supernatural...and the anime Supernatural. However, aside from YMMV, there's not much presence of the anime in the subpages.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#625: Aug 29th 2022 at 7:46:44 PM

[up][up] - I would also not go Iris Official, it's very confusing when we have unofficial works on this site, a.k.a Fan Works?

Edited by Malady on Aug 29th 2022 at 7:47:02 AM

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