Do you have trouble remembering the difference between Deathbringer the Adorable and Fluffy the Terrible?
Do you have trouble recognizing when you've written a Zero-Context Example?
Not sure if you really have a Badass Bookworm or just a guy who likes to read?
Well, this is the thread for you. We're here to help you will all the finer points of example writing. If you have any questions, we can answer them. Don't be afraid. We don't bite. We all just want to make the wiki a better place for everyone.
Useful Tips:
- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
Other Resources:
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Also, many oft-misused tropes/topics have their own threads, such as Surprisingly Realistic Outcome (here) and Fan-Preferred Couple (here). Tropers are better able to give feedback on examples you bring up to specific threads.
For cleaning up examples of Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard, you must use their dedicated threads: Complete Monster Cleanup, Magnificent Bastard Cleanup.
Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
For Gender Bender only?
Or just due to page image and initial sentence...
Does male Meowstics being blue, and females are white, count? Pokemon.
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Pale Females, Dark Males is a better fit.
Checking on Example Indentation here, should everything be at the first-level bullet?
- Bluff the Impostor: When one of the NS-2 robots with a modified version of the Three Laws tries to hide in a group of physically identical NS-2 robots with unmodified Three Laws, it has to convincingly act as if it were an unmodified NS-2 robot. Dr Calvin designs three tests to flush out the imposter robot.
- The lost robot foils the first test because, while it doesn't have to rescue a human in danger, it can choose to do so as quickly as the other robots are compelled to by the First Law.
- Dr Calvin puts the robots in a situation where trying to rescue a human would (as far as it knows) destroy them (prohibited by the Third Law unless trumped by the First or Second). Indeed, the lost robot does not try to rescue the human โ but has cleverly convinced the other robots not to try either (that they'd be destroyed before succeeding becomes an argument to ignore the First Law).
- In the third attempt, Dr Calvin puts the robots in the first situation again โ but the unmodified robots think it's the second, and stay still; the lost robot had been recently trained to recognize the difference between certain radiation wavelengths while the unmodified robots hadn't.
- Pale Females, Dark Males just calls Light Girl, Dark Boy, "the human equivalent"
So, LGDB is not Gender Bender-only...? If I'm right, I'll take it to Description Improvement...
Trying to remove all Man Shaped Hole wicks, since it's a Impact Silhouette redirect with few inbounds... So I'm planning to cut it, but these wicks are giving me trouble rephrasing:
- William Shatner does it by carving a Man Shaped Hole with a laser into a guy's living room in order to save him money on hotel discounts from his bearded Evil Twin.
- Mortadelo y Filemรณn:
- In another case, a number of prisoners are discovered to have escaped through an equal number of Man Shaped Holes from the same cell. Lampshaded when Filemรณn comments on how stupid one would have to be to not just use the same hole for everybody... only to find out that the thought hadn't occurred to either his partner or his boss, either.
Edited by Malady on Sep 20th 2018 at 4:45:40 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576If all else fails, you could leave the same phrasing, switch to lower-case capitalization, and employ potholes.
Do SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.Bojack Horseman and SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic really have that many valid examples to get their own pages?
The Protomen enhanced my life.@ Primis: In my opinion, Four Lines, All Waiting only applies when all those plotlines happen within the same narrative and they can't get the progression they need because the author cannot handle multiple plotlines happening at the same time.
@ Lalalei: Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped refers to when a story has an Anvilicious message, but the story actually works better because it's so blatant. Due to the misleading title, it's often used to say "any message I agree with that was done in an Anvilicious manner." Sometimes, it's even used when the message was well-written instead of being Anvilicious, or was just an important message overall.
Does Kanami Eto qualify as a Vanilla Protagonist for Katana Maidens? She doesn't have as many quirks as her friends and there is not much to her other than she likes swordfighting.
Not really. Even her friends note how she likes swordfighting above other things.
Edited by MasterHero on Sep 21st 2018 at 11:22:12 AM
Is Kanami used as a foil to other more colourful characters, such as emphasising how different they are from the norm, or something like that? Is she used as a base for the audience to stand on while experiencing the rest of the characters and story?
Check out my fanfiction!From The Dragon Prince:
- Bilingual Bonus: Some of Amaya's sign language, such as her speech to Sarai's memorial, is left untranslated.
The trope page says "The extra can be anything from a plot-relevant point to additional dialogue", so would it count as "additional dialogue"?
Yeah, that was never really an issue, all plotlines had reasonable pacing. I removed the entry.
From Final Fantasy Brave Exvius.
Sudden Sequel Heel Syndrome: In season 2 of the story Rain, the protagonist of season 1, becomes Hyoh of the Delta Star, a major villain.
Does this still count when the guy didn't turn truly villainous and was taken extreme measures to get stronger to defeat the Big Bad? The story does show he still have his good traits.
This was on Medaka Box: Fan-Preferred Couple: Zenkichi/Emukae, as well as Medaka/Kumagawa definitely seem to be fairly popular, compared to the canonical affection Zenkichi has for Medaka which seems to be reciprocated as of Chapter 140.
What's the word?
IPP Wick Check created.On the YMMV page for Star Wars Rebels:
- Author's Saving Throw: Many did not like how Ahsoka's facial appearance made her look like she was a different Togruta completely than the Togrutan Padawan that was one of the protagonists of The Clone Wars. The reason for the lack of resemblance is because for Rebels, she was modeled after the voice actor, Ashley Eckstein, but that still doesn't excuse the strange change and also raised a Broken Base question regarding who would hypothetically play a live-action adult Ahsoka.
Does this count as a true example?
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.I'm not entirely sure what's even being saved, so I'll say no.
Edited by sgamer82 on Sep 23rd 2018 at 10:47:22 AM
What about the example I've brought up?
IPP Wick Check created.I'm not sure. I'm less versed on shipping tropes. As written it seems to fit, but I wonder if it couldn't use more context
My above example was actually an Uncanny Valley one; still, does that example count?
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.@gjjones: I don't think so, no.
Jawbreakers on sale for 99ยขRegarding those Medaka Box pairings, in my experience (assorted forums and comments) they're higher regarded than the canon main couple. A lot of people default to the main couple, but that's probably most of the fanbase there, and I think the overall feelings are stronger for the alternate couples.
Check out my fanfiction!Breaking Old Trends: In a weird way he's a combination of this and Revisiting the Roots. Cyberse Magician is the first Ritual Monster to be used by a protagonist for a long time making him a trend breaker that protagonists don't use Ritual Monsters, but the first and only protagonist who used Ritual Monsters was Yugi from the original series until Yusaku Ritual Summoned Cyberse Magician also making him a revisit to the roots.
Is this an example?
Does "fairly popular" equate to being more?
IPP Wick Check created.As I said, in my experience, yes, they would count.
Check out my fanfiction!From More Popular Spin-Off:
- A Goofy Movie: This Cult Classic title is actually a movie based on a series called Goof Troop, which is little known about even to fans of the movie.
Is this true? Goof Troop was a popular cartoon.
Is this Tamer and Chaster or bowdlerise?
- In Teen Titans, everything was dialed back due to being a kids cartoon. Starfire in particular went from being an incredibly curvy Ms. Fanservice to being a lot less so, and currently even provides the page image for Adaptational Modesty.
Edited by Pichu-kun on Sep 25th 2018 at 7:27:59 AM
I realize that More Popular Spin-Off is YMMV for a reason, but I honestly can't fathom that there are that many people who know about the Goofy movies but not Goof Troop.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Found this on Four Lines, All Waiting:
BIONICLE was a little unusual in that there was no centralized conduit for its story, there were several different ones: books, comics, animated movies, audio dramas, etc. All equally canon, but stuff from one rarely, if ever, showed up in another.
Everything in this entry did happen, but it didn't affect the main plot at all. In fact, everything in the first half of this entry is from after the conclusion of the main story arc, and the only reason those didn't get finished is because the line got canceled.