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openCan I make a trope page about myself? Web Original
Before I begin. Apologies if I'm posting in the wrong spot! I glanced around, not exactly thoroughly, but this seems like a good place to post a general question. If I'm not using the forum right or there is a better place. Please just let me know! I'll delete or lock or whatever I'm supposed to do before going to the right forum.
Anyhow I've been lurking on T Vtropes for a while now, great site, and I was thinking of trying to make a page. The problem is that I don't know if I'm actually allowed to do that given what I want to do. For clarity I'm a youtuber specilizing in lets plays hence why I put this in web original. I thought it be better then video games. I'm a pretty shitty one and by no means a proffesional, but I thought it be a fun thing to try and do. Regardless I should stop rambling. If I'm doing anything wrong just let me know and I'll see what I can do to fix it.
Edit: Query has been answered!
Edited by DoomRPGopenShe's back!
The Great Hydra is back. I am honestly shocked at her gall. I mean she's not even trying to hide who she is. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/TheGreatHydraII Shockingly, her other edits were actually okay except for her entries on Smokey Quartz which were zero context as well as clear vandilism.
Edited by LadyErinNYopenNSFW warnings? Videogame
Would it be okay to add warnings for links that could be potentially NSFW but nothing explicit?
I would like to add an example to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate under Hilarious in Hindsight that involves a link to deviantart (You can already tell where this is going) and the link contains some....fetish art. Would it be ok to add a warning for any readers who might click the link as it could squick people if they're not prepared or into it?
Side note the picture itself is fine but the users page contains some racy art so would it be appropriate to post a link with a warning, just the image itself (which I'm hesitant as it doesnt give the creator credit), no link at all, or just axe the example altogether?
openWhat are the rules when creating pages of famous historical people?
I wanted to do this because I love history and I wanted to create a page for one of my favorite historical people, but I don't want to start without knowing what are exactly the rules of creating pages. The first one I wanted to create is Jose Rizal mostly because I'm Filipino but he's considered as one of Philippine's national heroes along with Andres Bonifacio and his novels prompted the Filipinos in the 19th century to rebel against the Spaniards. After doing him, I'll do other famous historical figures such as Hatshepsut. I'll just use a sandbox because it will take me a while to make a consistent and faithful page of him with good grammar, correct spelling, and stuff. I hope I didn't trigger any of you guys.
Edited by louisent31openConfusion
Mouseskedey was first only notable because they posted a weird TLP draft and had spotty grammar. Then I went into their history and found some...unusual pages. Check out Film.Chahar Angosht Iranian Movie and Film.Rahman 1400 Iranian Movie ...
That TLP draft? same deal.
This troper doesn't seem to understand what we're doing here.
Edited by WarJay77openSandbox/VisceralRobot
There's a sandbox for the not-yet-a-trope Visceral Robot TLP. Is this allowed?
openAttempting to make a new.work page.
I'm trying to make a new work page but the links pulled up on the how to create page are edit locked, what am I supposed to do?
openFlagged reviews
I have a review that was flagged because it exceeded the maximum character length and I wanted to extend it via a comment. I wasn't aware of the rules beforehand, and it's my first time trying to make a review.
Will this get me banned right on the spot, or it's like any other bad edit?
Edited by Mr-ex777openYMMV/TheFlash2014S3E23FinishLine Live Action TV
broman29 removed the Catharsis Factor and He Really Can Act entries from YMMV.The Flash 2014 S 3 E 23 Finish Line without an edit reason back in April and removed an example of what I think is Author's Saving Throw with the edit reason of "It was a disappointment" an hour ago. They've been messaged, I just wanted to put this here for posterity.
Edited by Crossover-EnthusiastopenHello Nurse Distinction
I stumbled on this trope once or twice in character pages where it was misused as "attractive nurse character" (Which is understandable as Hello, Attorney! is "attractive attorney character", but has nothing to do with Hello Nurse), and though it could be a good case for It Needs a Better Name... but upon reading I kinda have trouble telling what Hello Nurse even is?
The description and examples just make it seem the tropes is "this character is really attractive and other characters notice" and mentions it is an In-Universe example of Ms. Fanservice, but that trope isn't really limited to audience reactions. And if it was Informed Attractiveness already fills that niche, and characters that are lusted after are filled by Lust Object, Distracted by the Sexy or Eating the Eye Candy.
I can see the niche a lot of the tropes mentioned above fill, but not what Hello Nurse is supposed to be. I read a few examples and they all seem better fits for other tropes.
Edited by BlackMage43open Spoiler tags Music
Pretty much everything is behind spoiler tags?
openSpeculative Troping Western Animation
Beatman 1 has been doing a lot of edits over the past for the Voltron: Legendary Defender page that speculate the intent of why things happen, or add negative weasel words to otherwise unremarkable information, in order to turn it more negative-sounding. For example bringing up that the lack of merchandise is likely due to the creators' personal hatred of the mecha genre, that certain lines of products were possibly poorly received, or canceled due to fan outrage (when poor sales or company mergers and layoffs are as likely of a cause and actually have received press coverage at the time; even so, that constitutes being too speculative to add in itself, and another user who made similar types of entries recently got suspended here and on other pages for blatantly violating the rules), despite no official indications otherwise.
I feel that, due to the notorious amounts of Epileptic Trees regarding this franchise and its creators' intent (of which I have plenty, but which I don't believe is my place to add them), that without some kind of official confirmation as to the motives of company actions, it crosses the boundary into speculative troping since it reads creator intent and malice into a page that is supposed to about recording audience reactions, and thus requires some measure of impartiality, despite the name.
I've had to do a lot of cleanup regarding his edits for negativity bias and it's getting very tiring as he rarely adds anything strictly informative enough to leave alone, and has already had a history of excess negativity towards the series to the point of thumps on the forums, and has been found to have engaged in unsolicited harassment of fans of the work on other social media.
I mentioned in the past about a tendency of his to use the page as a soapbox for his Single-Issue Wonk with the show, as well as bring it up in threads and pages for unrelated works, even bringing up arguments from people he's otherwise violently opposed to due to his vocal hatred of their taste for same-sex shipping in order to bash it, but I don't think it's safe for me to PM him knowing this now for fear of inviting said harassment onto myself.
Edited by AlleyOopopenMenAreTheExpendableGender or BeautyIsNeverTarnished ? Live Action TV
In a recent episode of a TV show, two people, a man and a woman, are captured while infiltrating an enemy base.
The bad guys beat the guy to a pulp trying to find out who they're working for, but they don't touch a hair on the girl's head until they break out the Truth Serum, which they use on both.
What trope fits better? Men Are the Expendable Gender or Beauty Is Never Tarnished
openWhy are only sone Artistic License pages made NRLEP?
I know Artistic License can't really happen in real life, but why exactly are Gun Safety, Law, and Paleontology all singled out as No Real Life Examples, Please!?
open Roleplay character sheet
DR Falling Future is a new stub article, already reported in the long-term project thread (the crash rescue thread). Characters.DR Falling Future is its character sheet and it also has issues.
It has the standard ZCE problem, and its editors are actually edit-warring over my clean-up. Though to the editors' credit, there have been some attempts to provide more context, but often with half-context or word cruft like 'self-explanatory'; or they seem to think that pictures are substitutes for written context.
They removed my standard ZCE notice and I received no less than three messages over the page. I feel they have a sense of ownership over the page ('our project you're not even a part of' + ' as long as you don't touch our characters and the page itself') or they think they can break this wiki's ZCE rules because other pages break them as well ('Do it for everybody else's pages, or don't work on them at all without our permission.'). They cited other Roleplay character sheets as precedence... which opens another can of worms.
I tried to reply as best as I could but it was very time-consuming and exhausting and I'm not sure my message was received. (I hope I remained civil and helpful in my replies.)
I also thought I would mention it here because I suppose the editors will come here to argue their point of view, or at least to confirm that I am not making things up with Administrivia.Zero Context Example and other editing rules.
Also, prushka (one of the editors) mentioned in their message that the Roleplay is not made public yet (QUOTE It's not even public yet UNQUOTE)... which makes me think it's an unpublished work and as such, it needs to be moved to Darth Wiki — both the stub and its character sheet.
I'm posting it here because I think they all need to be reminded of this wiki's rules and its purpose (troping fiction and stories for general readership; it's not a platform to host fanfic roleplay for the players to get the feel of their characters). They probably need to hear it from the mods, not a regular fellow troper.
(I also admit I'm vexed because my clean-up efforts of their ZCE basically went down the drain.)
ETA: Sorry it's such a Wall of Text.
Edited by XFlloopenHow to split this
In my cleanup of Characters.Doubt Academy Other, I found this, and I'm not sure how to split the tropes. It's already a wordy example without duplicating it for each trope.
- Brain Upload / Body Backup Drive: One of the things they research, which comes up in the second and third games. In both cases, the former accounts for the continued existence of the dead students, while the latter is offered to the survivors in the ending as a possible way to bring back the dead.
- The Augmentation Chips in Black/White were supposed to record patient data (which includes memories, personality, and appearance) to a Backup System Grid, but the BSG had the unintended side-effect of giving the data sapience in the event that the patient died. During the ending, it was teased that this data could be inserted into bodies to effectively revive that person; it nearly happened with Black's Mastermind during the escape, but another student killed her clone's body instead of awakening it. The students of both games escape with the data, although it's not known if they ever find appropriate bodies.
- The ankle bracelets in Alpha/Omega/Epsilon were an intentional way to preserve that data and put it into a cloned body, with the sapient data staying safe in Elysium. An alternative is inserting the data into a humanoid robot, something that Alpha's Mastermind is forced to use; he then mentions that there are numerous other robot bodies in Gaia and suggests that others upload their data into them, although no one accepts his advice. Several students instead stay in Gaia for three months to clone human bodies for the deceased, allowing the whole class to walk out alive.
openRecreating A Page
Can Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town be recreated? It was cut without mention in the prerelease clean-up thread. It's mentioned that there is no release date, however it does have a release date of October 15 and the page did mention it.
openAbout Watchmen and Doomsday Clock Print Comic
Hello, I don't know if this came up or not. A while back on Watchmen I had a discussion with a fellow troper about putting in Doomsday Clock plot points in the main page.
I was under the impression that there was a rule that it was tvtropes policy to treat Watchmen as standalone and later versions as separate works. That was what was written on the Character Page. But it's not written on the main page.
Full disclosure, I think we should keep the page as it is and maintain norms. But I also realize that there's no rule one way or another for or against it. So if people can take a stand on this, either for and against, and then put it there, it's fine by me.
I personally think that given that Watchmen is a "classic" (it showed up in Time's All time great books of the 20th Century) and had been standalone for more than 20 years, and likewise is the most famous version of those stories and also most commercially successful (the Before Watchmen and Doomsday Clock haven't sold remotely as well as the originals), it should be maintained as standalone, since most readers and tropers would only be familiar with that. I am also wondering if creating a franchise page for overall adaptations is a good idea. That's also worth considering.
10 or more years ago I watched a show early in the morning. It was following a robot around a town and I can really only remember a scene where there were some stairs going up into a shop. The robot looked (from what I remember) to be a little brown robot, that looks similar to Wall-e. I do not remember the exact channel it was aired on or any exact details. I have been trying to figure out what this show for the longest time now.