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See here for Nightmare Fuel, which has frequent enough problems to deserve a thread of its own.

A while ago, I made a thread for cleaning up Nightmare Fuel pages, since they tend to attract all sorts of gushing about anything vaguely unsettling, as well as violations of Example Indentation and the Spoiler Policy among other problems. Well, other Moments pages have similar issues, though to a slightly lesser extent, so they may as well have a cleanup thread too.


"Moments" reactions should:

  • Be free of spoiler tags, in accordance with the Spoilers Off policy which states that:
    Fridge, Headscratchers, and the various Moments subpages (Tear Jerker, Moment of Awesome, etc.) are for post-viewing discussions. Spoiler tagging there defeats the purpose of the articles. You shouldn't be going there if you are worried about them.
  • Be based on things that actually have happened, not things that could happen, will happen, or might have happened. Speculation belongs only on the Wild Mass Guessing pages.
  • Have affected the writer of the entry themselves. If you don't find something funny or sad, let someone who did add it to Funny Moments or Tear Jerker.
  • Elicit a strong reaction. Not every single time a character accomplishes something is an Awesome Moment, not every attempt at comedy is a Funny Moment, not every time someone does something nice is a Heartwarming Moment, and not every unhappy event is a Tear Jerker.
  • Explain why they're so awesome/funny/sad: Zero Context Examples aren't allowed on this wiki. Your description should allow anyone to understand your reaction.

edited 30th Apr '18 6:39:13 PM by Zuxtron

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#451: May 7th 2021 at 4:50:51 PM

I'm confused. What constitutes an "moment"? I've been checking on the Sonic Forces ones, and I don't know how to act. Not to mention, I remember the ones from Dragon Ball Super being, well, just "This character does action".

What is a good example of one, and a bad example of one?

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#452: May 7th 2021 at 6:51:05 PM

[up] It should not just summarize the moment, but explain what makes the moment awesome/funny/heartwarming in context. At least give enough detail so we can create an image in our head that brings the right emotions to mind.

So for an Awesome page, "Bob's fight against Evildoer" would be basically a ZCE, but "Bob defeats Evildoer by throwing a shark into its open mouth" would give a better idea of the scene and provide a visual that is understandably awesome.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#453: May 8th 2021 at 3:06:57 AM

"Bob defeats Evildoer by throwing a shark into its open mouth" is just a scene summary. The key to a Moment is to describe the audience reaction to that scene, rather than hoping that people reading the Moment's page agree that this sounds awesome (for example, that sentence alone may make some tropers wonder why it's not on the Funny page instead).

So, the aforementioned scene could be written like this:

  • Despite having no special talents to resist Evildoer's power, Bob proves once and for all that he's the show's Determinator when he finds the strength to lift a fully-grown shark and throw it into Evildoer's open mouth.

That should make it clear he's done something awesome rather than funny. It could be funny, too, so write the scene a slightly different way for the Funny page. For example:

  • During the final battle, watching Evildoer's face grow ever more incredulous at the unexpected sight of Bob lobbing a visibly confused shark through the air at him is a surprising moment of comedy in an otherwise dramatic scene.

Think of it as writing how the scene feels. The events mentioned in the example are there to show how the feeling was triggered.

Edited by Wyldchyld on May 8th 2021 at 11:56:17 AM

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#454: May 8th 2021 at 6:30:22 AM

From TearJerker.The Boys 2019:

An unintentional one is Translucent's funeral, owing to the series being released just a week after the death of Black Panther (2018) actor Chadwick Boseman.

Aside from meta, the character from The Boys was a Villain with Good Publicity, and the funeral a mawkish display by their corporate sponsor, so it doesn't seem right to compare them.

fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#455: May 9th 2021 at 7:45:05 AM

This is on The Lion King II: Simba's Pride:

  • After Kiara and Kovu reunite, Kovu tries to encourage the two of them to run away and start their own pride, all by themselves. While Kiara refutes it kindly, it took major courage to sneak such a blatant encouragement of elopement into the script of a kids film.
    • The animators do a pretty good job of this as well, as Kovu wiggles his hind end when he makes this suggestion, making it very obvious to anyone who has knowledge of how mammals reproduce just what Kovu is suggesting.
      • Not to mention Kovu's voice when he makes this suggestion. Jason Marsden clearly realized what the writers were insinuating when he recorded this line and he manages to make Kovu genuinely think this is a smart idea.

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#456: May 9th 2021 at 9:34:39 AM

[up] The latter two are more "sex jokes are awesome" and even the first one is kind of a "meta awesome." Also I'm pretty sure other kids' shows have had characters explicitly elope? Rocko's Modern Life comes to mind.

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#457: May 9th 2021 at 9:46:25 AM

Damn, people at this wiki are obsessed with the idea that "edgy and mature" = "sex jokes", huh?

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#458: May 9th 2021 at 11:39:25 AM

Everything on Funny.The Human Centipede seems to either be unintentional or meta stuff from parodies.

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#459: May 9th 2021 at 8:58:27 PM

Reposting an early post since it got buried. This example is from the Tear Jerker page of OMORI:

  • A small case: a Sprout Mole inside the dungeon is excited about getting close to leaving the dungeon, but the Sprout Mole is blocking a button. Pushing another button ends up making the Sprout Mole explode. There is no way you can convince that the Sprout Mole can join you out of the dungeon; you have to press the button.

This isn't sad to me in the slightest, especially compared to the rest of the game (which gets really depressing at times). I thought the scene was kind of funny, actually. The scene takes place in a tyrannical Duchess's dungeon filled with sprout moles that our heroes get locked up in when one of them refuses to marry her. The joke is that it's incredibly easy to escape, down to our heroes' cell being unlocked so that they can just walk right out, but these "highly intelligent" sprout moles are too stupid to escape even when the cell door is open right in front of them. Also, the Sprout Mole exploding elicits no reaction from our heroes, or anyone else for that matter.

To me, it just seems like a slight Black Comedy moment twisted by the author to look like a Tear Jerker.

Edited by supernintendo128 on May 9th 2021 at 10:59:29 AM

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BigJimbo Since: Dec, 2017
#460: May 11th 2021 at 11:57:20 PM

I found these on Funny.Doug:

  • The fact that the 2014 Amazon DVD of the Nickelodeon series is literally called "The Complete Nickelodeon Series." It's as if Nick is saying, "your move, Disney!" In 2019, the entire Disney series finally became available for streaming on Disney+.
  • The Doug Tiger handheld game, which spawned the "Press Doug to Doug" meme.
The first one is clearly meta, but I have a feeling the second one could be kept... any opinions?

Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#461: May 12th 2021 at 12:02:42 AM

The second one can be kept, since it refers to a funny moment in the video game adaptation (though some more context might help). The first one is not only meta, but pure natter. Feel free to cut it.

Edited by Shadow8411 on May 12th 2021 at 12:04:00 PM

BigJimbo Since: Dec, 2017
#462: May 12th 2021 at 12:11:14 AM

[up] Removed the DVD entry and added more context on the video game one.

Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#463: May 13th 2021 at 7:07:21 AM

Sonic Riders has this:

  • This line can be seen as funny for how redundant it is: "Not just a race, but a special race to see who is the fastest." Isn't that the point of any race, egghead?

The above entry sounds more like something that would go under Narm than Funny Moments, especially with the use of rhetorical questions.

MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#464: May 15th 2021 at 2:28:16 PM

TearJerker.Calvin And Hobbes needs a look at. There's a lot of moments there that are clearly played for laughs, such as the lies Dad tells to Calvin, or Dad being the only one who enjoys the camping trips, or Stupendous Man always losing.

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#465: May 15th 2021 at 2:52:46 PM

I'll look it over, since I adore this comic.

    Keep 
  • One Sunday strip features Calvin getting ready for a day at school one rainy morning. That's it. No dialogue, no Imagine Spot, no wacky hijinks...and the last two strips feature Calvin staring at the clock, bored and miserable, while Hobbes stares out the window in the rain, waiting for Calvin to come home. Of the three characters (Calvin, Hobbes, and Calvin's Mom) nobody smiles once.
  • One of the earliest story arcs of the strips deals with Hobbes having been stolen from Calvin by a dog. Calvin's desperation as he searches for his best friend really hits home, especially to those readers who had beloved toys lost and stolen as kids. It's also one of the first times in the strip Watterson received fan mail from readers genuinely concerned about Hobbes' wellbeing.
  • The storyline where Calvin and Hobbes find an injured baby raccoon and rally the family together to try to save its life. They don't succeed. All of this can be kept, but probably can be merged to have fewer bullet points, and the Reality Subtext might be cutworthy since this is NRLEP.
    • Calvin's dad has to break the news to him. He's not happy about it, especially when Calvin starts to sob loudly and says he just can't believe the raccoon is gone.
      Dad: At least he died safe and warm. We did everything we could but now he's gone.
      Calvin: (sniff) I know. I'm crying because out there he's gone, but he's not gone inside me.
    • Calvin and Hobbes go to the woods where Dad buried the raccoon. Calvin laments how painful and unfair it all is, and ends up being scared by the concept of death. This can probably stay its own subbullet.
      Calvin: He was just little! What's the point of putting him here and then taking him back so soon?! It's either mean or arbitrary, and either way I've got the heebie-jeebies.
    • Crossed with a Heartwarming Moment, the arc ends with Hobbes and Calvin ultimately accepting that death is just simply a part of life and then make a promise that they're not going to leave each other. This can also probably stay its own subbullet.
      Calvin: Mom said death is as natural as birth, and it's all part of the life cycle. She says that we don't understand it, but there are many things we don't understand, and we just have to do the best we can with the knowledge we have. I guess that makes sense... but don't you go anywhere.
      Hobbes: Don't worry.
    • This story has a bit of Reality Subtext to it, as Watterson said it "just wrote itself" when his wife found a dead stray kitten one day. Cut probably as this is NRLEP.
    • What makes this one especially heartbreaking is that it's probably the only time we see Calvin genuinely concerned about someone other than himself, and genuinely upset about something real and very sad, not just a variation on "he didn't get his way". Merge into the top bullet point.
  • "I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up." Keep, but rewrite with context.
    • For reference; most boys Calvin's age would poke a dead bird with a stick. Calvin waxes philosophical about it instead. Could be merged when the entry is rewritten.
    • Another bit of Reality Subtext. The dead bird sketched in the first panel was one that Bill Watterson found outside his home. Same situation as the above: probably should be cut as this is NRLEP, though the fact the dead bird is so realistic might be relevant to how sad the moment is.
  • The family returning home from a trip (on which Hobbes had been left behind at home by mistake) and discovering their house had been broken into. Dad muses how he doesn't feel safe in his own home anymore. I think all of this is valid, and the subbullets all address different parts of the arc so I think it's valid.
    "A man's home is his castle, but it shouldn't have to be a fortress."
    • Later, he talks to his wife about how, during his own childhood, he always trusted his parents to fix everything, and it never crossed his mind that they might not have any idea how...which is the same situation he's in now.
    • Meanwhile, Calvin is practically in hysterics trying to find Hobbes because he thinks his best friend has been tigernapped. He even tells his mother that "Hobbes is so trusting," especially since Hobbes is established as a misanthrope. (Thankfully, he was not.)
    "Mom says Hobbes wouldn't have been stolen because he's not valuable. (sniff) Well, I think he's valuable."
    • Calvin's mom's take on the break in. Could it be elaborated upon?
    "This is something that you always figure will happen to someone else. Unfortunately, we're all 'someone else' to someone else."
  • The baseball story arc. Calvin signs up for a baseball team due to being bullied by Moe for being the only boy who didn't sign up. However, close to the end, Calvin accidentally catches the ball for the wrong team and makes his team lose. All of the other players cruelly and mean-spiritedly insult Calvin for an understandable mistake, in a way that really hits close to home if you've been bullied yourself. (One of them even asks the coach if he can hit Calvin with the bat.) The kicker? Due to this name-calling, Calvin asks the coach if he can sign off. The coach's response? "Okay, quitter! Goodbye." Thankfully, Hobbes has a better idea when Calvin gets home. This was intentionally showing how cruel kids can be, and it's one of the most heartbreaking stories in the comic, so I definitely would keep it.
  • One that takes a moment to sink in is the Sunday strip that walks Calvin through the various hardships and frustrations of a typical school day. When his mom kisses him goodnight and promises that "tomorrow's another big day!", Calvin's only response is a defeated sigh. Watterson's comment on the strip in the 10th Anniversary book sums it up: Keep, but the second entry should be its own thing and the third entry is probably played for laughs too much to count.
    I've never understood people who insist that childhood is an idyllic time.
    • An earlier strip had the same theme, where Moe punches Calvin and knocks him into the mud for no reason, then leaves laughing, leaving a miserable Calvin to remark, "People who are nostalgic for childhood were obviously never children."
    • Yet another strip begins with Calvin angrily complaining about having to go to school even though he hates it, only for Dad to tiredly tell him that in that case, he can go to work all day to provide for the family, with the only reward being the griping of a whiny kid. Cut to Calvin standing at the bus stop with a sour look on his face.
      Calvin: It's nice to know there's so much to look forward to in life.

    Cut 
  • Some of the Little Known Facts that Calvin's dad recites are quite cruel. He claims that while most babies are bought from Sears, Calvin was a Blue Light Special at K-Mart. Also, he tells Calvin that he grew from a grub and pupated at age two. This was played for laughs.
  • The fact that no one is ever happy during family vacations except Calvin's dad. Calvin's miserable by the end of it, Mom is a grump without her coffee and being woken up at dawn, and Calvin's dad can't even be given one week to indulge in his own passions. It's comedic, as it brings out the Deadpan Snarker in them. Honestly I felt more bad for the dad in those strips, even though he's also pretty selfish.
  • Stupendous Man never wins in any of his storylines. Calvin tries to claim that he gets "Moral victories". Stupendous Man is Calvin goofing around, doing things like locking his babysitter out of the house. Most of the time we don't really want him to succeed, or Stupendous Man wouldn't be any help anyway in the situation. That's the joke.
  • Many of the heartwarming scenes between Hobbes and Calvin become outright devastating if you agree with the interpretation that Hobbes is only alive in Calvin's imagination, and that that's all he has. Fridge Horror.
  • Poor Calvin's endless misery in school, especially considering that he's just in first grade. Middle school and high school are going to destroy him. What makes it worse is that Calvin does enjoy learning, but can't handle the public education system, which is based on repetition, rote memorization, and test taking. (It also doesn't help that Miss Wormwood's boring teaching style would probably put most college students to sleep.) Fridge Horror, too general.
    • Many people who grew up with untreated learning disorders like ADHD, autism, and whatnot have commented that Calvin's school experiences remind them of their own. With that in mind, Calvin's behavior at school becomes even more heartbreaking: he's not acting out for the sake of it, he's trying to learn but just cannot function in a normal classroom. If someone actually took a moment to help him, he might do okay or even brilliantly, but everyone just thinks he's badly-behaved. Speculation / Fridge Horror.
  • Related to the above, this strip is pretty sad, especially if you felt the same way in school. "We don't read about dinosaurs," indeed. ZCE and it's more of a joke anyway.
  • A stray remark by Uncle Max, in his one sole appearance, when he asks Mom if she's not concerned that Calvin only has Hobbes for a friend and doesn't seem interested in playing with other children. This was more of a joke.
    Mom: Didn't you have an imaginary friend as a child?
    Max: Sometimes I think all my friends were imaginary.
  • A pretty low-key one in this strip. At a puddle, Calvin discusses with Hobbes the possibility that they're the reflection of the guy in the puddle. When Hobbes points out that if that were true, they'd disappear once the person in the puddle walked away, Calvin spends the rest of the day looking at that puddle, apparently distraught at the thought of the person in the puddle ceasing to exist due to him. That's entirely a joke. I'd honestly expect it more as a Nightmare Fuel shoehorn.

    Unsure 
  • The one where Calvin and Hobbes figure out that they can play together all night by dreaming about each other, then go to bed saying they'll see each other soon. Seems more like a Heartwarming Moment, until the 10th Anniversary compilation where Bill Watterson revealed that he wrote that strip after the death of his cat Sprite, who was the major inspiration for Hobbes' look and personality. "We can always meet again in dreams." I think Reality Subtext would be considered NRLEP as mentioned above, but when the intended subtext actually makes the strip sadder, it might be worth keeping.
  • The Christmas strip where Calvin confesses to Hobbes that he didn't get him a Christmas present or a card. Hobbes wishes him a merry Christmas anyway, and they hug each other. I think this is more heartwarming than sad.
  • The last strip (and the name of the last book) of the comic's run is definitely bittersweet on a meta level. "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy. Let's go exploring!!" I think it's more heartwarming.
  • Ka-ZAM! Watterson comments in the tenth anniversary book that "imagination is not always appreciated." This is a subbullet to the "Hobbes is only alive in Calvin's mind" entry, even though it shouldn't belong there. However, I think it could count with more context. Calvin being alone with the landscape he creates is pretty sad, and the artist even points it out in the comments as seen above.
  • In one strip, Calvin gets sick and as his mom prepares to call the doctor tells him that he won't have to miss school because it's Saturday. Calvin responds with a weak "I know". Understandably, his mom races to the phone immediately. It's played for laughs but it is an upsetting strip seeing Calvin so upset.
    • The night before, Calvin has a stomachache and calls for his mom. She mutters that he'd better really be sick to be getting her up at 2 AM, and then she hears him throwing up in bed. "I didn't mean it!" She cries immediately after. Same as above.
    • Also, Hobbes shows No Sympathy as Calvin, still sick, lays awake in bed fretting about if he'll go to the hospital or if he's dying. To be fair, Hobbes himself doesn't want to catch Calvin's bug too, but still... This one might count because Calvin's worries are upsetting, especially as a little kid, but the Mood Whiplash joke about Hobbes isn't really meant to be taken that seriously.
  • Susie wants to be friends with Calvin, or at least play with the only kid on their neighborhood block. Calvin refuses, due to Susie being a girl. He has made her cry, tossed apples and pine cones at her, and refused to play house her way. While he is sincere at times, like when he thanks her multiple times for finding Hobbes and keeping him safe, Calvin is too mean the rest of the time. This example might be too general but the specific strip mentioned below definitely counts. I think it's from a longer story where Calvin really upsets Susie and has to apologize.
    Susie: "Sticks and stones may breaks my bones, but words will never hurt me." (She starts walking away proudly, then but her face falls) Yeah, right.
    • Add the implication from several story arcs that she's a staunch perfectionist who often panics that a failure in first grade could ruin her chances of getting into a good college, and Susie really is prime woobie material. Maybe if it focused more on the specific moments where Suzie freaks out about this cuz it is upsetting, but it's also usually played comically.
  • In one strip, Calvin asks Dad why grown-ups never play outside, and Dad answers that grownups have to justify "playing outside" by calling it "exercise", rating and scoring it, and doing it whenever they'd rather not. It's a bummer statement and it is kind of sad commentary, but it's played as a joke.
    Calvin: That sounds like a job.
    Dad: Except you don't get paid.
    Calvin: So play is worse than work?
  • Calvin's life in general, probably even moreso than Charlie Brown. At least Charlie Brown had friends like Linus who were generally nice to him. Calvin is just a complete misfit. In one strip in particular, he outright says that he wishes he had more friends. '''The example is too general. Not sure about the specific strip. It's more of a heartwarming moment, though Calvin's whole "people are jerks" statement is a bummer."

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#466: May 15th 2021 at 3:41:19 PM

[up] Removed the examples you mentioned.

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#467: May 15th 2021 at 5:02:15 PM

TearJerker.Young Justice is a mess. There's a lot of Fridge and exaggeration. Here are some problem entries that I found. There's more but I didn't want this to get unbearably long:

    Foldered for spoilers 
  • As of this episode, literally everything about the "runaways" is heartbreaking. First the Reach kidnap them from the streets and in Virgil's case, from home, then from their point of view they are betrayed by Blue Beetle, and just when they think they found someone they can trust in Luthor, they find out that he lied to them too. These are kids that are probably going to be chased down by everyone in the series from the League all the way to the Reach and they have been betrayed and lied to by so many people they likely won't be able to trust anyone at all, so when someone tries to sincerely help them they probably wont trust them either out of fear of being lied to. These kids literally have no one to turn to and they are all on their own.
Violation of Examples Are Not Recent. Also speculative and looking too much into things. Like, yeah, they've gone through some shit, but it wasn't really played to make you sad or anything, it was just for backstory.

  • Arsenal getting kicked off the team also counts. The guy just can't catch a break, can he? Cut. This isn't played for tears. He got kicked off the team because he was being a dick. He reacted with "MyEh!1! Fine! I work better on my own anyways!" instead of crushing sadness.

  • This probably is as much a Heartwarming Moment as it is a Tear Jerker: Wally, with his scientific genius, knew going to help Bart and Barry siphon off the energy would be suicide with his slower speed. So he zetas right to Earth, no quips, no "Eureka!" moment, not even a good-bye or a last kiss to Artemis. That's the sad part. The heartwarming aspect? He did so so that Artemis' last vivid memory of him would be Wally kissing her in Paris underneath the Eiffel Tower. Cut for being Fridge Brilliance, this isn't shown in the episode.

  • It's hard watching Black Manta showing such care and devotion for his son when you know sooner or later, he'll find out where Kaldur's true loyalties lie. Making it worse is the way that (from Manta's point of view) Kaldur was finally able to recover from his partial catatonia was by seeing his father in mortal danger. Manta believes this completely. Cut for sounding more like Fridge Horror

  • Nightwing holed up in HQ as the last member of the team. Especially since he's holding Robin's birdarang, and probably flashing back to the last Robin he failed to protect. Cut. This is speculative, I also fail to see how Nightwing staying there is supposed to be sad, it definitely wasn't played for tears from what I remember.

  • [1] Jason Spisak reads the ending monologue of A Midsummer Night's Dream as Wally, then adds, "Thanks for everything. It was an honor and a pleasure to be your superhero." This would be a valid TearJerker example because the comment section apparently bawled its eyes out, but it's Meta, so it sadly needs to be cut on sight. It would need a rewrite for more context anyway.

  • After the explosion, Wally storms into the Hall of Justice to confront Nightwing, as he questions whether Aqualad is really "acting" to keep up his cover or is actually a triple agent. These two friends, who had each other's back through thick and thin, who knew each others' secrets - they're now at each other's throats. This feels like Fridge and/or exaggeration. The scene in question isn't really emotional, it's just intense.
    • Worse, according to this Ask Greg post, the only reason why Wally knows about the plan in the first place is because Artemis insisted that he was let in on it or she wouldn't participate. Meaning that Nightwing was willing to let his best friend believe that his girlfriend was killed. The ramifications between them after the reveal would've been worse than the one above. Cut for being Fridge and/or Meta.
    • Seeing Nightwing making so many sacrifices for what he believes to be the greater good... just like Batman, which is what Bruce was trying to avoid in the first place. One wrong step, and all his effort will have been for nothing. Fridge Horror.
    • Consider the likeliness that not even the League knows about this plan (Green Arrow sure doesn't, as he thinks Artemis is really dead). What do you think would happen when or if Bruce gets back from that trial and finds out about the plan, with all of the extremes Dick has to go to just to try and find out who the partner of the Light is? Speculation and/or Fridge.
    • Making this even sadder is his therapy session back in season one, explicitly stating "that's not me" about such mentality. Either the original statement was a complete (yet convincing) ruse, it's a case of Aesop Amnesia, or he's full of self-loathing and inner conflict because of this charade that he perpetuates on a daily basis. Fridge and Speculation.

I know that there are legitimately sad moments in YJ, but the only things I remember being cry worthy were Wally's death in the season two finale and Artemis's fake reunion with Wally in season three. There might've been emotional stuff that I'm forgetting because they didn't make me cry personally, regardless, most of the examples on the page feel more like they were slightly sad at worst.

It feels weird as well because YJ doesn't "need" to be exaggerated to be taken seriously, it's already known as a serious DC cartoon. I can't say I'm really surprised though, YJ initially ran from 2010 to 2013, so there might be stuff left over from when TV Tropes had lower standards in terms of quality control.

Edited by RainbowPumpqueen on May 15th 2021 at 9:37:09 PM

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#468: May 15th 2021 at 6:13:08 PM

[up][up][up] I think that any Reality Subtext that is explained in book commentary can be kept, as that is part of the published work.

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#469: May 15th 2021 at 6:17:19 PM

[up]I agree, it's a tear-jerker for the 10th anniversary book if not the original strip.

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#470: May 22nd 2021 at 5:05:32 PM

Bump because I still haven't gotten anything on my Young Justice post.

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fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#471: May 22nd 2021 at 9:47:18 PM

This is on Diary of a Wimpy Kid:

  • In the fourth film, Rodrick Heffley is played by Charlie Wright instead of Devon Bostick. Say what you want about Charlie's take on Rodrick, but it's quite sad that he was made fun of because of the #NotMyRodrick memes.

Edited by fragglelover on May 22nd 2021 at 11:48:58 AM

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#472: May 22nd 2021 at 9:58:49 PM

[up] That's a real life example so cut.

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Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#473: May 23rd 2021 at 12:42:19 PM

Bringing up this example from Return to Me:

easytorememberhandle Since: Jun, 2011
#474: May 23rd 2021 at 6:10:27 PM

I've seen that movie. The opening has Bob and his wife at a party, dancing as the titular Sinatra song plays, and suddenly we hear an ambulance siren (with the song still playing, muted, in the background), with brief cuts indicating a car accident. We then see Bob, disheveled and with blood on his clothes, stumbling through the front door of his house with a distant stare. His dog runs up to greet him and he kneels down, says something like, "Sorry, boy. She's not coming home." And then breaks down and starts weeping right there on the floor, holding the dog.

I'd say it counts, especially as it's the only really heavy part of what is otherwise a light, funny romantic comedy.

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#475: May 25th 2021 at 5:39:17 PM

Found this on Funny.Yakuza 3:

  • In one substory, Kiryu jumps to the defense of a woman getting harassed by thugs. Once he gets rid of the thugs, Kiryu realizes the woman he saved was transgender, who now had the hots for him, much to Kiryu's horror. What comes next is a chase sequence where Kiryu tries to desperately get away from his new admirer.

I hear that this side story was so rife with transphobia that the developers chose to remove it from the Updated Re-release, so seeing it described as a Funny Moment feels like it might be a bit close to a ROCEJ violation.


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