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Useful Tips:
- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Speaking generally, can A Dick in Name apply to characters not named Dick under Tropes Are Flexible? Looking at the page just now I noticed a couple of examples referring to characters named Dirk (which I've never even heard used in the same way), and the first entry in the Video Games folder is about a villain named Wang.
He/Him
Found this in Characters.Helluva Boss Blitzo:
- Affectionate Nickname: On the rare occasions she is in a good mood, Loona calls him "Dad". She immediately denies it afterward.
While Loona's definitely affectionate whenever she says it, "Dad" isn't a nickname, because Blitzo is her dad. Adopted dad sure, but dad nontheless.
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the Retromancer
I'd say not an example and is redundant with Calling Parents by Their Name at Characters.Helluva Boss Immediate Murder Professionals
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Seems more like Pet the Dog to me. Or maybe Aw, Look! They Really Do Love Each Other.
^^^^^ Trivia can't be played with (inverted, etc.), so I'd keep the second half and cut the first like you proposed.
Musician/Composer
This was on Trivia.The Aristocats:
- Dawson Casting: In contrast to Toulouse and Berlioz, who were voiced by child actors (Gary Dubin and Dean Clark, respectively), Liz English was 40 when she voiced Marie.note
Does this example fit?
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Am I a weirdo?
Seems like it. Dawson Casting seems to include voice actors.
Bigotry will NEVER be welcome on TV Tropes.
^No. Shockingly, most voice actors are adults, which is why Children Voicing Children justifies its existence. From Dawson Casting:
- In the case of voice acting that field has nothing to do with appearance and everything to do with vocal performance, as such only notable aversions are mentioned
^ @ A Dick in Name I think if the dick jokes are explicit then yes under Tropes Are Flexible but I would not go around listing every guy named Wang who is not nice.
Musician/Composer
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I see. For what it's worth, I've removed it, citing this thread.
Lots of coffee
Would the token daughter being voiced by an adult while the brothers are voiced by children count as "notable"?
Showtime!
I don't think so, (cis) women's voices change less during puberty than (cis) men's, so it's easier to cast an adult woman as a young girl (or young boy, for longrunners) than an adult man as a young boy
I mainly fix indentation issues
From Trivia.The Legend Of Zelda Tears Of The Kingdom
- Ascended Fanon:
- Either that, or the biggest case of Contrived Coincidence in the series' history. Mineru appears to be heavily based on Yaraxonal from the fangame Hyrule Conquest (formerly Hyrule Total War.), who predates Mineru by a decade. Don't believe it? Compare them side◊ by side◊. It's not just their appearance; they are both thousands of years old Sages of Spirit who were sealed in stone, have a familiar relation to another ancient character (Yaraxonal is the wife of Senturon, who himself has some major overlaps with Rauru), share a color scheme of black, orange and gold, and their height of about two times that of Hylians. Given Tears of the Kingdom's developement team is composed of many younger and fresh developers, it's possible some of them happen to be fans of Hyrule Conquest and took some of its content as inspiration.
- Either that, or the biggest case of Contrived Coincidence in the series' history. Mineru appears to be heavily based on Yaraxonal from the fangame Hyrule Conquest (formerly Hyrule Total War.), who predates Mineru by a decade. Don't believe it? Compare them side
The example sounds more like a coincidence because there is no proof that what is said here is true. Should I cut it?
Valdo
I'd just cut it based on Examples Are Not Arguable. It is a coincidence or it isn't.
Musician/Composer
Plus, trivia examples aren't to be played with.
Edited by gjjones on Jul 7th 2023 at 8:35:59 AM
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Secular Hero is all the way from 2011 and only has ~60 wicks, so I'm not sure what counts or not.
If a story doesn't mention any religion at all, such as Science Girls! where the plot is "Secular-school-uniform-wearing girls fight Plant Aliens over the course of about a day", such that religion plays no part in any worldbuilding, Narrative Filigree, etc.
Does the hero still count as a Secular Hero? Or is that an Aversion instead, so it's not an example?
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I'd think it's only tropeworthy if it's actively part of a character's characterization. A story that doesn't mention religion in the first place is quite obviously not going to have anyone qualify.
I fix my examples all the time
Found this in Characters.Transformers Film Series Autobots.
- Sociopathic Hero: Downplayed. He's Optimus Prime and generally kindhearted and empathetic, but he's downright Ax-Crazy in the battlefield.
Optimus Prime: Give me your face!
I'm helping!
From Recap.Miraculous Ladybug S 04 E 01 Truth:
- Offscreen Villain Dark Matter: Gabriel has access to a supply of meteorite powder, a pot of molten gold and a peacock feather to brew his Miraculous repair potion.
Does it still count if the villain is rich and all of these are things you can just buy? (Yes, including the meteorite powder, we checked.)
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Definitely
Offscreen Villain Dark Matter is more about how the villain seemingly never has a problem procuring supplies despite defeats etc. If he’s established to be rich and these are something for a special ritual then probably doesn’t apply for a one-off, but if he’s buying a bunch of bombs every other week to fight the heroes in addition to multiple Eye of Newt things then that would be a better case.
These are blatant misuse, right?
Edited by StewieGriffin34 on Jul 8th 2023 at 11:25:14 AM
He/they | Mostly here on my free days
I'm helping!
Very much a one-time thing, so we're gonna call it a misuse. His normal plans are all fueled by magic and don't cost him much of anything at all.
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
From YMMV.Marvel Cinematic Universe:
- Character Perception Evolution:
- Trevor Slattery was initially reviled by fans, due to being the subject of the infamous reveal that he wasn't actually The Mandarin, but rather a boorish, hedonistic actor who was hired by the Big Bad to pretend to be him as a smokescreen for his plans. With time settling in after the reveal however, people have begun to look at Trevor more fondly, with a few fans noting how the twist playing into the then-current American fears of Islamophobia actually made a lot of sense from a storytelling perspective, and that Trevor himself was actually quite charming and comedic with the foreknowledge of who he actually is. It's telling that when the character finally returned to the franchise in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, his presence was much more warmly received than before.
This seems more like Rescued from the Scrappy Heap.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 8th 2023 at 11:52:02 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Was there a change to his character that made him less hated? If so, it would fall under Rescued from the Scrappy Heap. If not, it's Character Perception Evolution.
Goku Black
From The Rookie (2018)
- Spotlight-Stealing Squad: If there is a Moment of Awesome to be had, it will ALWAYS be performed by John Nolan. If Nolan is not involved in a storyline, it will not be the A-Plot. If it is the A-Plot, Nolan WILL be shoehorned in. Despite the series literally revolving around Nolan being a rookie police officer, the show never misses an opportunity to make him the smartest, bravest, most badass cop in the entire show.
Does this trope apply to you know the main character. He's who the show is named after and its lead so you kinda expect him to be prominent....
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
From the Role Reprise anime page:
Second half seems valid, but I'm really not sure that it's "inverted" by recasting actors - that's just The Other Darrin?
Keep second sentence, cut first one?