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Davos: You burned a little girl alive!
Melisandre: I only do what my Lord commands!
Davos: If He commands you to burn children, your Lord is evil!

Due to the moral greyness of the series, many characters avoid this trope in spite of performing some pretty terrible deeds, but there are still a few irredeemable bastards:


  • Viserys putting a sword to his pregnant sister's belly. No coming back from that.
  • Any sympathy that could be had for Rickard Karstark is immediately shitcanned when he murders two young, innocent squires in cold blood simply for bearing the Lannister name.
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  • If Janos' betrayal of Ned didn't put him over the edge (he was only doing what he was paid for, after all), then leading a massacre of Robert's bastards, including personally killing a baby certainly did.
  • Joffrey crossed it when he has Ned executed, especially since he first made it look like he was going to do the exact opposite. This leads to the North rising up against the Iron Throne and seceding from the realm. When confronted about his promise to be merciful, he coldly replies that giving Ned such a quick and clean death was a mercy. His actions after are a long series of kicking dogs whenever there isn't someone else to rein him in.
  • Gregor Clegane, already established as a reprehensible piece of work, crosses it when he has two hundred Northmen prisoners killed just to give the middle-finger to Robb Stark and his army. Even before then he slaughtered Tully villages and slagged off Cat Stark (a Tully, he dumps slaughtered fish as an insult.) Even if acting under Tywin this act results in the War of Five Kings.
    • Another moment even before then is when he murdered Elia Martel's children in front of her, then raped her and then bisected her. Granted, the first of these was an order by his liege Lord, but the way he did it and his actions afterwards is inexcusable.
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  • Dagmer killing Maester Luwin entirely for the hell of it.
  • Locke confirms what sort of person he is pretty quickly when he prepares to rape Brienne (only stopping because Jaime bullshits him about her value as a hostage) and then cutting off the chained and helpless Jaime's sword hand, even after he'd made his point quite effectively, apparently just because he resented Jaime's aristocratic overconfidence in his own authority and the reputation of his father, and enjoyed the role reversal.
  • Rast crosses it the moment he stabs Lord Commander Mormont in the back. The fact Mormont fought till his very last breath and then Rast the asshole stabs him over and over again when he's down demonstrates what a low-down coward he really is.
  • Ramsay has several of these moments:
    • The moment that he first crosses the line would be when he falsely gave Theon a way out just so he can psychologically break him.
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    • It only gets worse from there, as the entirety of Theon's torture scene serves to prove how much of a monster Ramsay is, as his sadistic acts of violence against Theon are purely for his own enjoyment. As Roose points out, such horrific treatment of a potentially valuable hostage doesn't even make any pragmatic sense - by castrating Theon and mailing his dick to Castle Pyke to taunt the Greyjoys, among everything else, Ramsay has robbed House Bolton of a bargaining chip.
    • Even though he's well across the line by Season 5, his rape of Sansa, complete with forcing "Reek" to watch is often seen as being even worse than what he did to Theon, and has pretty much convinced anyone who gave him a Draco in Leather Pants treatment that there is nothing redeemable about him.
    • Ramsay goes on to make these actions look mild in comparison when he goes on to stab his father to death and shortly after murdering his stepmother and half-brother by feeding them to the hounds.
  • Smalljon Umber crosses it by callously watching on as his proper liege Rickon Stark is murdered by Ramsay after delivering Rickon to him.
  • Tywin Lannister definitely crosses it before Tyrion snaps from his abuse and murders him:
    • First contender: he is Gregor Clegane's boss, so the fact that he is ultimately responsible for much of the Mountain's atrocities could qualify. However, some may feel that may be too much of Off Screen Villainy to qualify.
    • Second contender: he is the true mastermind behind the Red Wedding. Then again, some might argue that he was simply being ruthlessly pragmatic.
    • If neither the first nor second allowed him to cross the line, then he definitely crosses it with the third: letting Tyrion take the fall for Joffrey's murder without caring the slightest bit if he's innocent and if he is executed as a result. It's very fitting that he dies shortly afterwards.
  • Littlefinger threatens Ros by revealing that he serves up disobedient and nonperforming prostitutes to thrill-killers who torture them to death. From this point, it's clear that Littlefinger isn't just another schemer; he's evil to the core. As the show progresses, it turns out that this is only one horrible crime of many up his sleeve.
  • The Red Wedding is one long crossing for Roose Bolton and Walder Frey. Walder had Robb Stark and all of his bannermen massacred just because he didn't marry Walder's daughter, and Roose turned on his fellow Northmen and personally killed his own king. One could argue that Tywin Lannister's organising the whole thing might itself make him applicable for this, though he at least has pragmatism as an excuse.
  • Karl Tanner crosses it when he takes over Craster's Keep. He rapes and brutalizes Craster's daughters, drinks wine from a cup made out of the skull of Commander Mormont, and is willing to murder a baby just so he won't have one more mouth to feed.
    • And Craster himself crossed it years ago when he decided to further his family line by raping his daughters, who would give birth to more daughters for him to have as extra wives. And his sons were basically sentenced to death.
  • Balon Greyjoy chooses to abandon his own son after he receives his genitals and a ransom demand, saying that "he isn't a man anymore," despite Theon's entire predicament being due to a desperate wish to win love and acceptance from his father. Even scumbags like Walder Frey treat their kids better than this guy. His refusal to save Theon and his snide little insults at his lack of manhood angers Yara so much that she calls him out on his behavior and begins preparations for a rescue mission.
  • The overlords of Meereen fly far over the Moral Event Horizon before they even appear by crucifying over 163 slave children to mile-posts on the way to Meereen, just to piss Dany off. This is made worse as the first girl sacrificed visibly resembles Dany herself, making this slight at her seem even more intentional.
  • The Sparrows at first seem like some of the most good people in the show, wanting to help out the common people in whatever way they can and prepared to sacrifice anything of their own to do it. Then they get the power of the Faith Militant and it turns out they're far more Westboro Baptist Church than Christian missionaries.
  • Both Melisandre and Stannis finally cross the point of no return and become true villains when they have Shireen burned alive in an attempt to ensure their victory over House Bolton. Numerous viewers, including long-time fans of Stannis, have turned on him for this act, and some are going so far as to root for the Boltons over him.
  • Wanting to kill the innocent Myrcella in revenge for Oberyn's demise is appallingly bad on its own, but going through with it after Prince Doran mercifully grants Ellaria and the Sand Snakes a second chance puts all of those women way past redemption.
    • And they only go further in the Season 6 premiere when they kill Doran and Trystane as well, all in the name of "avenging" Oberyn. That act is even considered to be kinslaying, which is one of the worst crimes in Westeros.
  • The Night's Watch brothers who are involved in the betrayal of Jon Snow. Particularly Olly, whom Jon was kind enough to take under his wing.
  • It was thought by many that the Brotherhood Without Banners crossed it in Season 6 when they slaughtered peaceful followers of the Seven who wouldn't pay their protection racket - although, as it turns out, these men are not representative of the whole Brotherhood, and their decision to go rogue is promptly dealt with by Beric and Thoros in the next episode.
  • Cersei had made a lot of evil choices over the course of the show, but she solidifies herself as irredeemable in the Season 6 finale with the Green Trial, where she commits mass murder. Cersei blows up the Sept of Baelor with wildfire and not only kills all the Sparrows, but also her uncle, cousin, the entire Tyrell family save for Olenna, and dozens of innocent people.
    • Even the apparent Pet the Dog moment when she tries to spare Tommen backfires. Her actions cause him to commit suicide, and, as if to hammer in the point home, after six seasons with her love for her children being her most redeeming quality, Cersei coldly brushes off her remaining child's death.
    • If that act isn't enough, just before Tommen's suicide, she tortures Septa Unella by first waterboarding her with wine, then leaving Gregor Clegane, a psychopathic serial rapist who himself is well across the Horizon, to do whatever to her.
    • And to top it off, Cersei refuses to aid Jon and Dany who gave her proof that the Zombie Apocalypse is real and decides to let the White Walkers finish them off. She doesn't care about humanity's survival and that these two have the best weapons and knowledge against the undead. All she cares about is herself even though Winter approaches on King's Landing. She's also willing to kill her own brother/lover on spot when he leaves her (though she doesn't actually go through with it), and after he leaves her, she orders his and Tyrion's deaths if they survive the war against the Night King.
    • And just to remind people how terrible she is in Season 8, not only does she bring all the civilians in to surround the Red Keep and use them as a human shield essentially, she orders Ser Gregor to behead Missandei after making it seem like she'd consider Tyrion's offer to let her and her unborn child go if she agrees to surrender. At that point, she's almost as bad as her firstborn son.
  • The penultimate episode of the series gives us a major one. Having fully crossed the Despair Event Horizon after the death of her second dragon, the execution of her oldest remaining friend, betrayals from within her inner circle, and reaching a political and emotional impasse with the man she loves, Daenerys goes on a rampage and needlessly incinerates countless innocent men, women, and children throughout the streets of King's Landing. The carnage and horror the people suffer at both Dany's own hand and the cruelty of her rampaging soldiers is given great emphasis.

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