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Edited by Twiddler on Aug 6th 2023 at 11:53:14 AM

spiritsunami The Sage of Boredom from Right here, Right now Since: Jan, 2001
The Sage of Boredom
#6326: Aug 24th 2013 at 8:39:01 PM

I ain't wading through the entirety of this long discussion to see if this has already been mentioned, but I found an in-universe example of a Mondegreen. Pretty sure these are NOT the lyrics to Bohemian Rhapsody.

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#6327: Aug 24th 2013 at 8:47:06 PM

[up] Write the example as it would be written to go on the page.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#6328: Aug 25th 2013 at 7:45:57 AM

Please copy the The Bible examples on Rewarded as a Traitor Deserves (it's on the Literature subpage) and Rejected Apology to the Bible article.

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OccasionalExister Since: Jul, 2012
#6329: Aug 25th 2013 at 9:23:45 AM

The Complete Monster cleanup forum approved of a new rewrite for Amon Goeth's entry. Here it is below:

  • Amon Goeth from Schindlers List is the Ax-Crazy Nazi Lieutenant in charge of the liquidation of the Krakow Jewish ghetto and is the overseer of the Plaszow concentration camp. Goeth's true nature is first exposed when he encounters a Jewish forewoman protesting that the foundation of the structure in the camp they're building is unsound, and this will lead to the building's eventual collapse. Goeth's response is for her to be killed in front of the other workers. He then orders his men to follow the dead woman's instructions anyway. This is merely the first instance in a long line of pointless and unpredictable violence from Goeth. Some of his most infamous crimes are shooting prisoners with a sniper rifle for sport, personally killing twenty-five men in a rage after one man from their barracks managed to escape from his work detail, and laughing at crying parents as he sends away trainloads of their children to be gassed. Every time a possible flicker of humanity is exposed in Goeth it is quickly subverted then extinguished. When Oskar Schindler tries to convince Goeth that true power is mercy, Goeth briefly tries out being merciful, even sparing the life of a Jewish boy who was unable to clean the stains in Goeth's bathtub. Then, on a whim, he decides to murder the boy anyway. When he finds himself attracted to his Jewish maid, Helen, he attempts to clumsily come on to her, only to eventually blame her for his own sexual feelings and savagely beat her afterwards. Following the events of the film, the viewer is left with an impression that Goeth is a pure sociopath driven only by his erratic whims. Ultimately Goeth's only able to ape the basic mannerisms of a human being and finds himself completely unable to understand basic compassion and human decency when he's confronted with it.

May this rewrite please replace Goeth's current entry on Monster.Film? Thank you.

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#6330: Aug 25th 2013 at 11:55:07 AM

Please namespace all four Kamen Rider series on Fallen Creator with Series/: Agito, Faiz, Hibiki, and Kiva.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#6331: Aug 25th 2013 at 1:35:48 PM

On Monster.Film, a Name Space change to Charles Bronson.

  • The rapists from the first Death Wish, who rape Paul Kersey's daughter, force his wife to watch and service one of the others orally, then murder the wife to keep her from using the telephone before just zipping up like nothing out of ordinary happened and leaving.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
StFan Since: Jan, 2001
#6332: Aug 25th 2013 at 3:44:36 PM

On Characters.Teen Wolf, please namespace HeartOfDarkness to Literature/HeartOfDarkness.

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#6333: Aug 25th 2013 at 5:11:39 PM

Please delete https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Monster/Halo and add this to Video Games

*Halo:
  • The Prophet of Truth, Ord Casto, was one of the Big Bads of the Halo series and instigator of the attempted genocide of two species. After finding out that humans were the descendants of Forerunners, thus violating Covenant doctrine, Truth, along with his cohorts Mercy and Regret, decided to wipe out humanity rather than risk their species losing power. While originally more concerned with personal power instead of the Covenant religion, as time went on Truth became more and more devoted to the idea of procuring godhood for himself through the Great Journey, and took more drastic steps to make it a reality. Believing the Jiralhane (Brutes) to be more vicious and mindlessly devoted pawns than the Sangheili (Elites), Truth secretly ordered the genocide of the Sangheili race after ensuring the Jiralhane supplanted them. This triggered the Covenant Civil War. Cold-blooded and ruthless, Truth felt no loyalty or affection for his fellow Prophets. Truth prevented Covenant forces from saving Regret in order to use Regret's death for political gain, and allowed Mercy to die by the parasitic Flood for no reason at all. Even when having evidence that the Halo Rings were not devices to procure godhood but were instead weapons of mass destruction, Truth decided to activate all of them anyway, willing to risk the death of all life in the galaxy just to have the chance to become a god.
  • Police Commissioner Kinsler is a brutal thug and Dirty Cop who took advantage of the chaos caused by the Covenant's invasion of New Mombasa to carry out his crimes without repercussion. The first time Sadie encounters him, Kinsler reveals his intention to rape and kill her. When Sadie escaped from him with the help of Kinsler's driver, Mike Branley, Kinsler swore revenge on both of them. After Vergil, a subroutine of the AI that maintained New Mombasa's infrastructure, prevents Kinsler from killing Branley and recapturing Sadie, Kinsler responds by shutting the AI down. This has the effect of grinding New Mombasa's evacuation to a hault and causing many unnecessary deaths. Kinsler's final attempt to capture Sadie has him threatening to murder her father if Sadie doesn't willingly turn herself in. When Sadie arrives at Kinsler's private train car, Kinsler's having his corrupt officers fire into the crowd of panicked refugees to prevent them from escaping on his train. Once Sadie's in his clutches, Kinsler reveals that he already murdered her father by flooding his lab with argon and then tries to have his way with her again.

edited 25th Aug '13 5:12:25 PM by ACW

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#6334: Aug 25th 2013 at 5:12:38 PM

[up] The Cut List is where page deletion requests go.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#6335: Aug 25th 2013 at 6:47:12 PM

6323 - 6325, 6328 - 6332 : Done.

6326: Yes, please write up the example as it should appear on the page and I can paste it in.

6333: The # of inbounds for the Halo page was enough to justify making it a redirect to Monster.Video Games rather than just cutting it.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#6336: Aug 25th 2013 at 9:19:22 PM

Rightyoh, more from the complete monster thread:

replace Butch Cavendish's entry from Monster.Disney with the writeup at 15726

From the same page, add Kruger's writeup from 15734 to the Monster.Film page and The Cousins at the same post to Monster.Live Action TV

Writeup of Colonel Hakeev at 15710 added to Monster.Video Games

Replace Amon Goeth's entry at the Film monster page with Occasional Exister's at 15723

And finally on Monster.Literature replace the Night Angel Trilogy entries with the new writeups at post 15724 on the same page as goeth's.

Finally, on the Monster.Film page, replace the Saw examples with just:

  • Detective Mark Hoffman Of the Saw franchise is Jigsaw's second apprentice and surpasses both his Well-Intentioned Extremist mentor and Ax-Crazy Broken Bird alumnus Amanda in evil how the lines he is willing to cross. Unlike Jigsaw's traps, which tended to give a chance for survival, Hoffman places his victims into traps simply to kill them to satisfy his own sadism and cruelty. He frames Agent Peter Strahm for his crimes and then arranges his horrible death by being crushed by compacting walls. To cover his tracks, Hoffman begins murdering innocent people and then goes on a rampage in the police station, killing every officer he finds before placing his rival and Jigsaw's wife Jill in a trap to kill her horribly.

On the Monster.Live Action TV page, replace Barago writeup with:

  • Garo brings us the evil, power hungry Barago. Barago was once a member of the Makai Knights, an order of powerful beings who defend humanity from the horrors in the dark. Nearly every horrible thing in series can be traced back to Barago. He made the innocent heroine of the series into a vessel for a demonic being known as Messiah, which would allow Messiah to consume both the girl and then the world (for nothing more than his personal gain). He murdered series hero Kouga's father, and The Lancer Rei's entire family to manipulate them further in the future. To prove he has no attachment to humanity or human beings, Barago cuts down a mirage of his own mother to prove that his family means less to him than power. Barago is willing to allow humanity be devoured for his own gain, and carelessly uses and discards whoever is in his way. When one hero begs Barago to remember why he once joined the order of the Makai Knights, Barago's only response is to coldly say he can't even remember.

And finally, on Monster.Literature replace the Inchoroi writeup with

  • Aurang and Aurax, twin princes of the Inchoroi from the Second Apocalypse series. They're Serial Rapist Aliens who crash-landed during the height of the Nonmen (or Cûnuroi, as they call themselves) civilization. They eventually touched off a cataclysmic war between them and the Nonmen. To be fair, the Nonmen sort of started it, as they murdered the first Inchoroi captives they took, essentially because they didn't like the way the Inchoroi looked. However, to bring about their victory, the Inchoroi genetically engineered three new species (the Sranc, the Bashrags, and the Wracu), at least the first of which is so filled with hatred and lust that the only way it can interact with its enemies is by raping them to death, killing them first and then raping them, or, baring rape, just killing them in gratuitously torturous ways, such as cutting open the abdomen and strangling the unfortunate with their own intestines. Eventually, though, the power of the Quya (Nonmen sorcery) is such that the Inchoroi are driven to defeat. Aurang meekly ask the proud king of the Nonmen what he'd like them to do for him. He decides that he'd like his species to be immortal. The Inchoroi assent and become the physicians of the Nonnmen, wandering among them and spreading their concoctions. What happens as a result of this is completely unjustified. The men all become eternally young and immortal, but every single woman of their race dies. No exceptions. The remaining Nonmen are upset and decide they would like to wipe the Inchoroi out for good. Aurang and Aurax, the masterminds of the genocide, are the only survivors. But perhaps what the Inchoroi did to the Nonmen doesn't seem awful...until one realizes what it does to the surviving Nonmen. Their minds can only contain a few centuries of memory, before it starts to fade away. However, the exception to this rule is traumatic memories. Episodes of their lives filled with anguish, hatred, terror, and misery pile up, while everything beautiful and joyous, or even banal and trivial, they experience inevitably vanishes. By the time of the setting of the books, the Nonmen have been like this for at least four thousand years, and those of them that aren't desperately trying to keep together a last remnant of their civilization are so far beyond crazy that humans can't really hope to comprehend it. And the two surviving Inchoroi don't regret a thing. This is only their flashback backstory. In the series proper, Aurang and Aurax mastermind hundreds of horrible murders, engineer genocidal wars for their own ends, and created a being that killed every baby to be born for a decade. Both brothers are also sexual sadists who refer to themselves as 'The Race of Lovers' and are very fond of rape as an interrogation method...either doing it themselves, or letting their victims serve the srancs' pleasures.

edited 26th Aug '13 7:54:46 AM by Willbyr

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"In distress", my ass.
#6337: Aug 26th 2013 at 7:39:07 AM

Please add the following to No Real Life Examples, Please!:

* RasputinianDeath: Many examples are really just legends and rumors, and it's creepy to recount real cases of how people were brought to slow and painful deaths.

* StrawmanNewsMedia: {{Natter}} magnet that invites violations of the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment thanks to its often political nature.

edited 26th Aug '13 7:39:48 AM by Nohbody

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#6338: Aug 26th 2013 at 7:43:22 AM

I suggest the last entry to be revised to:

...considering that that was the main argument about its removal.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#6339: Aug 26th 2013 at 8:08:05 AM

6336: Done except for the Amon Goeth change which was already requested.

6337: Done with Septimus' suggested tweak.

edited 26th Aug '13 8:08:40 AM by Willbyr

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"In distress", my ass.
#6340: Aug 26th 2013 at 11:19:01 AM

^^ Yeah, that works better. I was just trying to come up with something that didn't use the argument in the crowner entry, as the "strawman" argument listed there didn't apply.

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#6342: Aug 26th 2013 at 12:33:01 PM

I've got a change I'd like to add to Website.Something Awful. After this line:

* LetsPlay: It began as something a few weirdos did on the Games forum, but later gained its own subforum (and recently its own moderator), and has spread across the internet. WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}} was made in response.

Add this:

** Lowtax and [[WebAnimation/TheFlashTub Shmorky]] have also gotten in on the act, playing Game Maker games of dubious quality (and ''VideoGame/CryOfFear'') on [[https://www.youtube.com/user/lowtaxico Lowtax's YouTube channel]].

Alternatively, do it all as one line.

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
In uffish thought
#6343: Aug 26th 2013 at 12:40:20 PM

I think a paragraph break is the way to go in this case.

  • Let's Play: It began as something a few weirdos did on the Games forum, but later gained its own subforum (and recently its own moderator), and has spread across the internet. Retsupurae was made in response.

    Lowtax and Shmorky have also gotten in on the act, playing Game Maker games of dubious quality (and Cry of Fear) on Lowtax's YouTube channel.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
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#6344: Aug 26th 2013 at 3:40:29 PM

[up][up][up] Done.

[up][up] Done with [up]'s format.

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Sorcerer in training
#6346: Aug 26th 2013 at 7:48:51 PM

[up] Please write it up in full example form. The moderators can go into your post and copy and paste it into the article. smile

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ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#6347: Aug 27th 2013 at 8:30:00 AM

Monster/Marvel: For Spider-Man's Carnage entry, please change : Cletus Kasady was a psychotic, prolific Serial Killer...

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#6348: Aug 27th 2013 at 8:43:46 AM

On Monster.Anime And Manga, can the two instances of The Messiah be changed to All-Loving Hero because the former is now a disambiguation?

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Reading tropes such as You Know What You Did
#6349: Aug 27th 2013 at 9:53:43 AM

In no way is this intended to be a knock but this might be interesting material to add to Moral Guardians.

  • Dead Island and it's sequel Dead Island: Riptide is an interesting case in regards to promotion of the game. The trailer for Riptide featured a graphic portrayal of a couple killing themselves rather than be ripped apart by the infected. However it was the logo of a lynched...zombie? which caused it to be changed and the ad pulled from Australian television after it was aired.
  • Saints Row IV was refused classification in Australia because of rape (an alien probe gun being in the game) and drug use. The censors apparently are fine with rape as this was allowed as DLC but they were still very angry at drugs in the game, but eventually allowed an MA rating once the mission involving them was removed.

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#6350: Aug 27th 2013 at 10:02:56 AM

The former will need Example Indentation fixing; both need namespacing.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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