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to Jenke and Clementine

Now, I have another possible candidate. I'm not extremely sure he counts, but it's been bugging me so here goes.

What's the work?

Patema Inverted is the story of how, many years ago, scientists tried to harness the power of gravity, and it resulted in much of the population becoming "inverted." Being inverted means your gravity is opposite to that of a normal person's, so while they stand on the floor, you stand on the ceiling.

In the present, all surviving Inverts have moved underground so they won't fly up into the sky like so many others. Patema, one of the undergound's residents, travels to the surface, a huge city named Aiga, looking for her best friend, Lagos, and befriends a surface dweller named Age. Both Patema and Age are around 15 years old.

SPOILERS!

Who is he?

Izamura is the leader of Aiga.

What has he done?

Aiga is a Totalitarian Utilitarian society, where everyone is monitored by cameras, and you're forbidden to look at the sky, supposedly because that's where the "sinners" end up.

Izamura runs this society with an iron fist, ensuring "accidents" happen to anyone who tries to disrupt his rule.

When Age was a boy, his father invented a flying machine and tested it in front of a huge audience. Izamura had him sniped and killed in front of said audience, and his son, and claimed he "fell." This deeply affected Age.

When Patema shows up, Izamura captures her. He then knocks Age to the floor, orders him to "forget" about her or else he'd have an "accident" like his father, then stomps his head into the ground for good measure.

Izamura wants Patema to show him where the rest of the Inverts are so that he can kill them all. However, instead of just interrogating Patema, Izamura shows her Lagos' dead body, which Izamura kept in his office after killing him, holds her outside of the building, threatening to "drop" her into the sky, and puts her in a room where the ceiling is glass, so she'll see how close she is to "falling."

When his Dragon questions him about this, Izamura states he'd rather psychologically torture and break her into becoming "his" because it's more fun. Again, 15 year old. His Dragon is visibly creeped out.

When Age tries to rescue Patema, Izamura tries to kill him and force Patema to watch, but hesitation on his Dragon's part allows them to escape, but seemingly die in the process.

Izamura has a minor outburst at how she "chose" Age rather than his "protection." He quickly gets over this and tells the public Age had an "accident."

When Age and Patema return, Izamura follows them into the underground, finds the Inverts, and tries to kill them all, but his Dragon turns on him after realizing he's been working for a lunatic. Izamura tries to kill him for this betrayal.

Izamura confronts Age, Patema, and Porta (One of Patema's friends), and shoots Age in the leg. He then states he's going to shoot him in his other leg, then his right arm, then his left arm, until he's forced to "drop" Patema.

After seemingly killing Porta, Izamura makes an attempt to kill Age and Patema, giving her one last chance to be "his."

The truth is revealed, however, that the Inverts are actually right-side up, and the Aigans are the true Inverts. Izamura ends up "falling" into the sky, while making an attempt to drag Patema down (up?) with him.

Freudian Excuse or other redeeming features?

He tries to paint himself as a Well-Intentioned Extremist, however he ultimately comes across as a Knight Templar.

He doesn't want anyone investigating the sky (hence the no-looking at it rule and killing anyone who tries to fly) because he doesn't want anyone to realize just how small Aiga, and by extension his rule, really is. And while it's never outright stated, it's heavily implied that Izamura knows that Aiga is inverted, but uses the propaganda that they're right-side up to keep them from asking questions.

Finally, his "relationship" with Patema is not only creepy, but possessive.

Heinousness?

Runs a dictatorship, tries to psychologically torture a young girl into becoming dependent on him, wants to wipe out all Inverts, kills anyone who gets in his way, and reguarly tortures and sadistically tries to kill a young boy. In a "family" movie.

Final Verdict?

He's basically Judge Claude Frollo if he was in Anime form, if the gypsies were Inverts, and Esmerelda was a 15 year old girl. I'm leaning

edited 3rd Oct '15 11:00:14 AM by Ravok

• Executive Decision: Nagi Hassan is the second-in-command of a powerful terrorist group and a radical fanatic. When the group's leader El Sayed Jaffa is captured by the US military, Hassan and his men hijack a plane and demand Jaffa be released. However it is soon revealed that Hassan himself was behind Jaffa's capture and is using this hijacking as a pretext to set off a powerful nerve gas bomb in Washington DC. To prove he is serious, Hassan has a suicide bomber blow up a restaurant in London. When the US military frees Jaffa, Hassan wants to go ahead with his plan and kills one of his men for questioning this decision. When US fighter planes try to force the plane to land, Hassan kills a US Senator on board and threatens to kill a passenger every minute if the plane is not allowed to land in Washington. When Dr. David Grant and his team ruin Hassan's original plan, Hassan kills the pilots flying the plane, hoping that the plane will crash into Washington and set off the nerve gas bomb.
• Pentathlon: Heinrich Müller is a cruel Stasi officer and athletic coach turned fanatical Neo-Nazi terrorist waging what he sees as a holy war against those who disagree with his message of hate. He has a mad obsession with his former protege Eric Brogar, an Olympic gold medalist who defected to America, and even savagely beats Brogar's elderly father to death out of anger at the defection and the old man's disdain for him. His real plan is to have the German ambassador to the US and a prominent human rights activist rabbi assassinated with a rocket launcher during a peace rally simply for speaking out against racism. Müller never shows any regard for human life, and never hesitates to gun down any innocents standing in his way.
• Fire Bringer: Sgorr is a psychotic and sadistic deer who loves nothing but power and pointless killings. Once a member of the Herne's Herd, Sgorr one day became fascinated by violence after having observed the human world. Wanting to commit an evil act himself, he kidnapped a human infant, then brutally killing him and eating his heart. He admitted that he believed that by killing him he would be stronger then humans. After having been banished by the Herd, Sgorr teams up with Drail, the leader of a rival herd, becoming the chief of the Draila, an infamous military unit. When he finds out that Rannoch, the newborn son of his longtime rival Brechin, carries a prophecy who could lead to Drail's downfall, Sgorr sends the Draila to kill him. While Rannoch menages to escape, Brechin is killed while his mate Eloin is forced to become part of Sgorr's private harem. After having discovered that Drail is more interested in ruling, Sgorr, who prefers conquest and bloodshed, kills him by pushing him off a cliff, before ordering all of Drail's sons to be killed as well. Under his commands, the herd starts conquering other herds by force and killing anyone who tries to oppose. His last act of evil is trying to kill the now grown up Rannoch by crushing him with a boulder.
• The Last of Us: When David was introduced, he seemed like a reasonable and kindhearted guy who simply wanted what's best his community. As the game progresses though he was revealed to be the leader of a group of cannibals who sent a raiding party to a university, leading Joel to suffer an excruciating injury. David is also a cannibal himself and feed his group, some oblivious to what they are eating, human meat. He also develops a fixation on Ellie, claiming her to be "special" and planning to use her to repopulate the world. When Ellie manages to escape, David has his men go after her. Not even his own men like him, as they always discuss overthrowing him once they are done finding Ellie; this is justified as he keeps on sending them to their deaths. When he confronts Ellie for the final time, he manages to pin her down and tries to rape her, before trying to kill her. In a post-apocalyptic world filled with zombies and people willing to kill just to survive, David manages to stand out from the rest of them as simply a perverted and repulsive psychopath who lacks any true redeeming qualities.
• Cadillacs and Dinosaurs : In this Animated Adaptation of Xenozoic Tales, Hammer Terhune, who works for Governor Scharnhorst, one of the leaders of the City in the Sea (New York City, After the End), tries to discredit Jack Tenrec's philosophy of promoting a balance between humans and nature. To do this, Hammer uses a sonic transmitter to torment a T-Rex and have it attack nearby settlements. Hammer also tries to discredit Tenrec by trying to cause a bunch of Triceratops to stampede and kill people in a mining town. Unhappy with taking orders from Scharnhorst, Hammer hijacks a killer satellite and plans to use it to destroy the City in the Sea, so that he can take over. Later Hammer discovers a boy who can control dinosaurs and wants to use him in his poaching business. To test the boy's skills, Hammer throws him a pit with a hungry raptor and sees if he can control it. In his final appearance, Hammer uses some stolen dynamite to try to flush out some dinosaurs, but this causes a wildfire instead. The wildfire is heading towards some gas wells Scharnhorst recently constructed and if the fire reaches the wells, it will cause an explosion that will devastate the jungle, resulting in mass starvation for the City in the Sea. Scharnhorst orders Hammer to work with Tenrec to fix this problem, by helping Tenrec use nitroglycerin to create a barrier between the fire and the wells. However, Hammer intents to kill Tenrec instead and steal the nitroglycerin for himself, not caring that his actions have endangered millions of lives.
• Carmilla the Series: Baron Vordenberg from season 2 is an elderly Austrian baron who is a member of the Silas Board of Directors. When he is first introduced, he seems to be a kind and friendly man, despite his apparent disdain for vampires. Once Laura gets him voted as the Chairman of the Board, he immediately shows his true colors by ordering a detainment of all vampires and anything supernatural in Silas University. He has some of the students, including Laura's friend Danny (whom he lies that he will stop after arresting Carmilla and Mattie), recruited into his militia , and preaches anti-vampire propaganda. It is discovered that, despite the potential consequences, he intends to kill Lophiiformes, all to make a name for himself. After killing Lophiiformes, he intends to execute Carmilla and Mattie, along with any students protecting vampires; the attempted arrest indirectly leads to Mattie's death. After almost callously shooting one of his men, Laura starts a resistance against him. In the battle, he has Theo betray them and kill Danny. The next day, he has the other board members shot over the announcements and prepares to execute Carmilla in front of Laura's webcam, taunting them all while doing so.

Izamura

to Jenke.

Alrighty, I feel I should make a few proposals...oh, yes to Vordenberg and Clementine.

First off, from the Kenzie and Gennaro series, from the book Darkness Take My Hand, we have the Serial Killer Big Bad of the novel...Kenzie and Gennaro are contracted to protect the son of a prominent psychiatrist, as bodies begin mounting up...the only problem? The serial killer responsible has been in prison for twenty years.

Except...well, there's actually a group of killers...and the original who inspired it all...

Who Is He And What's He do?

Gerry Glynn, the friendly owner of the bar in downtown Dorchester, a genuine hero cop. Except, Gerry had a side he never let the public see...underneath his cheerful demeanor was a brutal man who enjoyed hurting suspects.

Then Gerry's son dropped dead of an aneurysm...Gerry somehow decided to blame his wife, and murdered her. Now, he felt sick originally, but then he realized something: He was entirely unbothered by having committed murder. So he committed another to see if he'd feel the same.

And he loved it. He realized he had a passion for murder. Not just murder: torturing, killing and destroying whatever he could. He found several other people who were just as monstrous and mentored them, creating a small ring of killers that he used to shield himself from the scrutiny. Glynn targets men, women and children via himself and his disciples. When they're caught, one of them ends up going to jail for the murders, allowing Glynn to operate in secret to the point nobody knows there's a depraved serial killer around. His MO is torture with a quasi-religious bent, including crucifixion. His original other disciples are killed after they attempt to kill several children, including a young Kenzie, whose father put together a vigilante squad and murdered them.

Glynn remained undetected and continued on his own. He indoctrinated a new killer and formed a 'holy trinity' with Glynn as the 'father' The novel starts with some descriptions of Glynn's victims: tortured to death, and the son of the psychiatrist a potential target. Kenzie and Angie are unable to save him and he's murdered horribly as hell.

Glynn later asssigns his disciple to murder Angie and kills her abusive ex-husband Phil when Phil joins with Kenzie to take Glynn down (unfortunately Glynn catches them on the street and invites them into the bar before they can get out, and when he realizes they know, the fight starts and he cuts Phil's throat with a razor)

Glynn takes a teenage mother and her baby hostage to call Kenzie out, with a flame bomb attached to them...Patrick manages to save them, and stops Gerry from shooting the baby. He shoots the bomb and Gerry burns.

After Glynn's end his killing ground is discovered with the remains of 34 people. The actual number is speculated to be much greater.

Now, Gerry's Freudian Excuse is worthless. He admits he no longer cares about the pain of it beyond how it showed him that a 'God' can take away peoples' plans and he simply loves killing people. He even writes a letter earlier in the novel where he says all his victims are innocent people and he's not sure the 'worthy victims' are worth the trouble.' There is nothing to suggest the loves his son anymore. He's not doing it to ease his pain or anything but his own megalomania, and he has a body count in the double digits and more through his disciples

Like Socia, Glynn is simply evil

Next? From the Felix Castor series, I present the first book's villain, Lukasz (Luke-Ash) Damjohn. The series, btw, concerns an exorcist named Felix Castor: a man seeking to make ends meet in his native England who uses his gift to see spirits for extra cash, but falls afoul of some...sticky situations.

Who Is He? what's He Done?

Damjohn is a businessman who owns several clubs, officially. Unofficially, Damjohn is a pimp and a smuggler of women. Now, when the novel begins, Damjohn calls in Felix because he has a job for him: to get rid of a ghost hanging around the place who's been causing issues with business. The place at first seems a high end brothel without many issues, and Felix takes the job.

Things pile on to make him suspect something is off, and then he's attacked by a succubus named Ajulutsikael who attempts to rape him and eat his soul. Felix escapes, and later kind of gets a What the Hell, Hero? about his approach to ghosts in that he simply exorcises them without considering who they are or where he's sending them. He investigates further.

Well, it turns out, Damjohn is a war criminal from the Balkans who participated in selling out refugees. He's also a dominating narcissist who loves control other people. For his business, he uses recruiters to convince eastern European girls to hop on a plane and come down to a great new job.

Except the ones Damjohn deems to be the big moneymakers are put in the high end brothels where there are rules, high end clients and seeming class. The ones who aren't are thrown in 'the flats' where anything goes. The girls are 'educated' first, raped and broken psychologically to make them pliable and train them to be the commodities Damjohn needs. The problem is, one of his recruiters has a taste for one of the girls sent to the high end club, and rapes her older sister sent to the flat. The girl, Snezha fights him and he accidentally kills her. She becomes a ghost, hence Damjohn hiring Castor to get rid of her. And just in case Castor figures it out, Damjohn has his own personal exorcist summon up Ajulutsikael to take care of Castor himself.

Felix finds out from the recruiter and learns the ghost's sister is taken by Damjohn who is reluctant to kill her as she's a great source of income. Felix ends up captured and laid out for Ajulutsikael...Felix then manages to free her from her binding before she can finish him...and she then proceeds to slaughter Damjohn's men and take her time with Damjohn himself.

Felix lays Snezha's ghost to rest by saving her sister Rosa and busts the operation open. Though when he returns home, Ajulutsikael (Or 'Juliet') is waiting for him. As he's still alive, she can't return home...and doesn't really want to. In fact, she wants to learn how to do what Felix does and help people.

Freudian Excuse?

Hahahahaha no. Damjohn has none save his enjoyment of keeping control over everything.

Heinous Standard or redeeming Qualities?

Damjohn has NO redeeming qualities. None, nada, zip, ZERO. He says he's 'fond' of Rosa, but hat's only because she can make him a ton of money and he happily admits that being a prostitute and likely hooked on drugs will kill her sooner or later, and he'll kill her when she's of no use to him.

Felix Castor is a dark as hell series, with monsters and demons around, and I'm going to propose several others in the series soon, especially the Big Bad Asmodeus...and of course, there's Juliet/Ajulutsikael who is a succubus which entails raping and eating men, namely their souls. However, Juliet has few onscreen crimes, she only goes after Felix because she's summoned and forced to, and she actually copes with being on earth by only dating women so she's not tempted by succubus instinct. She's not a nice person, but hardly an evil one and only followed her nature until she grew attached to life on earth.

"The truth is revealed, however, that the Inverts are actually right-side up, and the Aigans are the true Inverts."
How does that even work?
Izamura though.

Yes to Jenke and Izamura

• Easy Glynn (just out of curiosity, how does the hero manage to save the baby w/o Glynn setting off the bomb?)
• Now, Damjohn, I THINK , but a few questions:
  • How much does he do himself as opposed to what his associates do (i.e. what is his own personal rap sheet)?
  • This is just because I'm curious, but "Felix then manages to free her from her binding before she can finish him...and she then proceeds to slaughter Damjohn's men and take her time with Damjohn himself." You mean her binding, as in she's under Damjohn's control, but once free she doesn't have to obey him anymore and can kill him?

Really, really easy to Glynn and Damjohn

edited 3rd Oct '15 1:40:43 PM by DemonDuckofDoom

I just listed Damjohn's rap sheet. Did creating an organization where women are routinely raped and turned out cease to be heinous just because he 'only' gives the orders and facilitates it?

Good enough. What about my second question?
Thanks.

edited 3rd Oct '15 2:06:22 PM by ACW

Yes

to Glynn and Damjohn

@ACW: Basically, the layers of the Earth go:

—Surface of the Earth (No one is currently residing)

—"Inverted" city (Actually normal people residing)

—Aiga (Actually Inverted (Upside down) people residing who, thanks to Izamura, believe they're normal)

—Aiga's "sky" (Actually a holographic projector even further to the Earth's core made by the original scientists who created "Inverts." They made this projector to atone for their sins by simulating a sky for the Inverts)

So, the reason most Aigans believe they are on the surface is because the "layer" of the Earth they reside in was created to simulate the surface world. So to them, normal people who live a few miles below them are upside down (Inverted), when in actuality, the normal people are a few miles above them and right side up. It's confusing, but I hope I did a moderately good job at explaining it.

Both of those guys if Glynn doesn't love his son anymore (and you said he doesn't).

Gah. Thanks for trying though. either way.

No problem. It confused me for a while too. And I watched the movie!

to Glynn and Damjohn.

Izamura Glynn Damjohn

I have been reading Madanno Outo Vanadis, an I would like to discuss Torbalan:

Who is Torbalan and what does he do?

Torbalan is a demon who kills and does other evil things like most demons do. It is stated that he rapes and eats young girls. Upon learning of a war that is going on, Torbalan disguises himself as a human named Leicester and enrolls in Prince Elliot's army, planning to use this as an opportunity to kill more people. Torbalan is forced to reveal his true self when he fights Tigre and Olga during their invasion of Fort Lux. Torbalan is defeated and blown away. Surviving the fight, Torbalan goes to an island and establishes himself an army of pirates. Torbalan also tames a sea dragon, whch he later uses to attack and sink two ships, killing the people onboard. Torbalan later discusses launching a full scale attack on a nearby town and destroying the entire naval fleet. When one of the pirates challenges Torbalan's leadership[ and tries to kill him, Torbalan kills the pirate. Before Torbalan can act on his plan, he is confronted by Sasha, a naval commander. Torbalan prepares to kill and eat Sasha, but she manages to fight him to a stance in a duel before being forced to retreat due to the incoming swarm of pirates. The morning after the fight, Torbalan and his army of pirates launch their attack, intending to slaughter the entire town and the naval fleet protecting it. Torbalan manages to burn two of the ships, but Sasha and her army easily gain the upper hand. Eventually, Torbalan is reduced to sending wave after wave of his remaining men after Sasha, knowing that they stand no chance againt her, intending to send them all to their deaths just so that she will be wweakened from fighting them and he will stand a better chance against her. In the end, Torbalan is killed and all the surviving pirates are captured.

Redeeming features?

None.

Does he stand out?

He is, as far as I know, the only villain to launch a full scale attack on an entire town in an attempt to slaughter every last inhabitant along with the entire nval fleet protecting them. This gives him an attempted bodycount in the thousands.

Any issues?

Torbalan does not have much of a personality, although he does seem to have great leadership skills and he is known to enjoy being feared and hated by humans. If this enough to moe him out of Generic Doomsday Villain territory, I see no reason for him not to qualify.

Torbalan

to Vordenberg, Clementine, Jenke, Izamura, Glynn, Damjohn and Torbalan.

to Long Dinh.

@ 45223 Septimus Heap, I think I disagree with that idea, because really an evil character could decide to adhere to social norms like politeness on a whim, since it barely costs them anything, it can be hard for that to be a truly redeeming quality. For example, Mr. Blonde from Reservoir Dogs believed in tipping a waitress, but he is still listed as a monster, because that is even close to being a defined

If a psychopath who plans on destroying a city, gives a homeless man a dollar on a whim, it means nothing, because it costs him very little and since the homeless man will die anyways because the city will be destroyed, so he doesn't really care about the homeless man.

I do think for something to count as a Pet the Dog moment, it needs to be a little more clear that is supposed to be sympathetic, rather then something done on a whim.

@ 45259 ACW, are you considering adding some of the suggested page quotes to that Sand box (like the Redjac quote for the Star Trek page) or will those be added to main the subpages in time instead?

edited 3rd Oct '15 8:56:43 PM by Overlord

Yes to Torbalan. There's someone else in Madan no Ou who can also count. Maximilian Gannelon namely..

One other example now from the old horror game The 7th Guest

You play a guest named 'Ego' who arrives at the Stauf mansion, built by the famed toymaker Henry Stauf, where a party with six guests was hosted in 1953...nobody was ever heard from again. Ego begins to see ghostly visions as he tries to piece together the ends from decades past...only to learn he's not so alone in the mansion as he thinks...

Who Is He?

A down on his luck drifter named Henry Stauf murders a woman for her purse...one night, he's sent a dream of a beautiful doll and carves it, which he's able to trade to an innkeeper for room and board and food. Stauf receives more dreams, creating more toys that he sells, steadily growing richer and richer...however, to achieve it, Stauf makes a pact with the dark forces. And children who receive Stauf's toys begin...dying of a strange illness. Stauf vanishes in his mansion.

Now, the six guests in the manor become aware of a seventh guest: a boy named Thad who crept in on a dare from his friends. Stauf wants Thad brought to him...several guests decide to do so while two protect him.

Now, it's revealed that the illness's source is Stauf's toys. He has been killing the children so he can steal the souls of the victims, trapping them in the mansion and tormenting them for his own power. Thad is to be the latest victim he needs.

Now, Stauf also imprisons the soul of one of the guests who tries to help Thad in a mannequin, a full And I Must Scream fate, while then killing the only surviving guest who actually delivers Thad to him. It is then revealed Ego is actually Thad, having lost his memories...he did die that night and his soul has been imprisoned and tormented by Stauf. This time however, you managed to defeat Stauf, sending him to hell and saving Thad and your own soul.

Now, as far as Freudian Excuse goes...not sufficient. Stauf was a man down on his luck, but hardly excusing murder, infanticide and sadistic torture of souls. No redeeming qualities, either. To recap, he's a child murderer, inflicts And I Must Scream fates on his victims and is a poster child for a successful Deal with the Devil

edited 3rd Oct '15 9:14:10 PM by Lightysnake

Stauf

to Stauff.

Reminds me of the villain of M.R. James' Lost Hearts.

There was a sequel to 7thGuest called 11th Hour that also had Stauf as the villain, anything to add from that or have you not played it Lighty?