Is this an example?

- Maybe implied just because Magical Eye is a trope that exists? It's more clearly Exotic Eye Designs, though?

Eye Beams would be Discussed, given that laser question was asked.

edited 11th Apr '18 9:21:57 PM by Malady

I Cut both entries . Alright another question. This is on Greater-Scope Villain for Video Games.

• In Super Robot Wars V, if it wasn't for the Crossover nature of the game, Embryo would have been the Big Bad. He orchestrates almost everything that happens between the two worlds and is responsible for accelerating the fusion of the three worlds the heroes are trying to save. And even then, it's implied that there's someone even higher than him who orchestrates everything: Black Noire who claims to not just have set up everything that happens in the Anno Domini j, but did it For the Evulz.

Isn't Embryo the Big Bad of this game for real though. Hrs the driving force and and main villain and saying because its a crossover and hence that makes him a Greater-Scope Villain is a bit weird as that seems to imply that every bad guy whoose the main villain of a crossover is a GSV. So is it correct ?

edited 11th Apr '18 10:54:24 PM by miraculous

I went ahead and popped it into Exotic Eye Designs, with the possibility of a Magical Eye being mentioned.

Considering this description he is the Big Bad, not the Greater-Scope Villain.

Question: are the following Trolling Creator examples correct?:

• Trolling Creator: Game Freak for mostly the same reason as their nickname.
  • What can you say when they made Levitate Flying Rotom, and Insomnia Delibirdnote Delibird has acces to Vital Spirit, which does exactly the same thing as Insomnia, or Event Only Heatran with Eruption and Quiet Nature?note Probably the best example is Shedinja, who can learn Final Gambit and Sandstorm.note Final Gambit faints your Pokémon and does the same amount of damage as your Pokémon's current HP. Sandstorm is a weather condition that removes a bit of HP if it's not Rock-, Ground-, or Steel-type. When you put either of them on the One-Hit-Point Wonder Bug/Ghost that is Shedinja, well...
    • Then Inversed Battle comes, and that Rotom is the only Flying-type that's still immune to Ground-type.
  • How about making a set of games called Pokémon Sun and Moon, but don't have Solrock and Lunatone (who are shaped like a sun and moon respectively) available for capture. Or how about basing it on Hawaii but not have Bellossom (partially based on a Hula dancer) available either. Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon has Bellossom belonging to NP Cs... but they're still not available for capture.

edited 12th Apr '18 12:20:03 PM by MagBas

The second example sounds weird with lunatone, solrok and bellosom as it kinda sounds like streching and brigning fanon.. So I dont think that one is right.

edited 12th Apr '18 12:54:00 PM by miraculous

edited 12th Apr '18 8:10:40 PM by Malady

Okay another example I wanted to ask about. This time from Kamen Rider Build.

Ambiguously Evil: There was still good in Katsuragi, as evidenced in how he became Sento when freed of his memories and given a new face, but it was buried deep under his grief, and perhaps a push from the Pandora Box. Driven by his fury, he would do so many horrific things that he became known as the Devil's Scientist for his willingness to sell his soul for the sake of research, but eventually his better nature won out enough for him to try and quit. In the end, Katsuragi was indeed a monster, but not one beyond salvation.

Does this fit here or would it work better under Anti-Villain considering he did plenty of unambiguously bad things albeit for a greater good.

edited 13th Apr '18 1:42:56 AM by miraculous

From Player Unknowns Battlegrounds:

• Unusual Euphemism: The phrase "Winner Winner Chicken Dinner" pops up when you win a match. This is a Running Gag that dates back to previous Battle Royale-style games that PlayerUnknown has worked on (which will also give you the same quote for winning).

"Winner Winner Chicken Dinner" is neither unusual (the phrase has been commonly used for decades) or an euphemism (it's more of a funny chant than an attempt to be less explicit). Should I just cut this?

It could be considered an Author Catchphrase maybe, but not an Unusual Euphemism.

Yeah Author Catchphrase would be it, last week they announced they are suing a mobile battle royal game over using it.

From YMMV.Atlantis The Lost Empire:

• Ensemble Dark Horse:
  • Vinny is arguably the most popular character. ESPECIALLY in the French fanbase.
  • Audrey is perhaps a close second for many.
  • As with Kida, considering who voiced her in this film...
  • Helga's got a strong fanbase too.
  • Also Mrs. Packard, due to her bottomless pit of snark.
  • King Kashekim for being voiced by Leonard Nimoy.
  • The Leviathan only appears briefly but is absolutely beloved - probably because it's a giant mechanical lobster that shoots lasers.

Are any of these Ensemble Darkhorses? They're all major characters , aren't they?

Way too many of them, unless there's like a hundred of them. There's nothing that states how prominent the characters are relative to others, since that's one of the main criteria for the trope (being popular outside their weight class).

We do have a cleanup thread for Ensemble Dark Horse.

Is Arm Cannon one of the Disability Tropes, if it doesn't actually require a disability?

edited 13th Apr '18 6:09:38 PM by Malady

Disability Tropes is an index, not a supertrope. As such tropes that are connected to disabilities, whether always or frequently, can also go on it.

Uh guys could you answer my question on the Ambiguously Evil entry

edited 14th Apr '18 1:39:00 AM by miraculous

Would this example from Secret Wars (2015) fit the trope it's describing, or is it another trope entirely:

• Loose Canon: This event like DC's Convergence allowed Marvel to publish books with the same character in a variety of stories. Some journalists are referring to this combined effort between the two publishers as the possible start of a "Prismatic Age of Comics", where the same character can exist in multiple contexts. The difference in approach, thus far, is that DC seems to have multiple versions of the same person running around (such as two versions of Superman running around) while Marvel is allowing multiple different characters to use the same name, such as two different Spider-Men, Spider-Women and Hawkeyes.

Also, from BAT Corps: (I know it's a Darth Wiki page, but I'll treat it as if it were a work page anyway, even though Darth Wiki isn't a works page anyway, just to ensure tropes are used properly).

• Artistic License / Broad Strokes: This fan work is derived from a multitude of storylines, including elements of the Batman: Arkham Series, The Dark Knight Trilogy, DCAU (including Batman: The Animated Series and Batman Beyond), and to some degree other DC Animated series and features (Young Justice and Batman: Under the Red Hood).

From Kings Quest (2015):

• Broad Strokes: The events of the old games did happen (in some form), but certain details and sometimes entire events are recalled or referenced differently than how they happened.
  • The press release comments for Chapter 3 state that we as fans are to essentially see the original games as simply 'fairy tales' and 'legend', and that the new series shows 'what' really happened, the 'truth'. In regards to events of KQ2, for example, the choice of princesses in Chapter 3 determines the personality and appearance of Valanice in the present.
  • Alternatively Graham is portrayed as an Unreliable Narrator and maybe lying, embellishing, telling tall tales in his old age, using "creative licensing", and even being influenced to some degree by Gwendolyn.
  • Even the Magic Mirror may be changing aspects of historical past as the stories are retold.

From ''Rayman Origins':

• Broad Strokes: The game applies some visual and story Retcons to the first game to fit in with the rest of the franchise, as well as bits of 2 and 3, such as 3's Land of the Livid Dead looking much less peaceful, but things seem to have largely happened in the same way as they did in the previous games, aside from the Rabbids, whose entire presence are completely ignored.

Checking these fit the tropes described!

edited 14th Apr '18 2:25:42 AM by Merseyuser1

Are the following examples from YMMV.Titans 2018 being used correctly:

• Author's Saving Throw:
  • For the very, VERY large hatedom of Teen Titans Go!, and for fans of both the comics and the 2003 animated series, the mere existence of this series is considered an example of this trope, especially by those hoping for a more darker take on the Titans.
  • Announcing Beast Boy had been cast after all, when many were disappointed he was absent from the initial revealed line-up.
• Internet Backdraft: Set photo leaks for Starfire's design for the show were harshly panned and torn apart by the Internet. Beast Boy and Raven also got flak, though not to quite the same extent. Starfire actress Anna Diop clarified that the leaks were misleading and out of context.
• Misblamed: The reaction to Anna Diop's casting as Starfire led to many claiming that the character was being racelifted for diversity's sake. However, casting call leaks show that the audition was "open ethnicity".
• WTH, Casting Agency?: This was also the general reaction, combined with WTH, Costuming Department?, when unofficial pictures of Starfire were leaked. Even the people who had no issue with the Starfire casting almost unanimously reacted to her wig and outfit with horror.
• WTH, Costuming Department?: Besides Starfire's questionable outfit, the set photo leaks drew complaints since she, Beast Boy and Raven were not orange, green and grey. The latter's outfits are more or less spot on for Civvie Spandex (if that is indeed the intention, given that these are contextless set photos) but their normal skin tones look off because of that. (Though in Raven's case, her grey skin only started with the cartoon, and the comics have gone back and forth in copying it.) Anna Diop has stated that the leaks were not representative of the actual costumes.

Those all seem okay to me. "More darker" is grammatically incorrect though.

I have noticed the following in a character sheet:

• Becoming the Mask: Tsubasa has a very active imagination and enjoys acting out her characters in order to write their dialogue.

This "Tsubasa" is a Sequential Artist. I know what Becoming the Mask means, but does a creator acting out like their characters really count as that trope?

Pretty sure that's a shoehorn. Or just plain misuse.

It would only count if Tsubasa's "default" personality starts to resemble the character's.

Is this an example of Harsher in Hindsight? From YMMV.Steven Universe:

• Most of Season 4 is Steven finding healthy coping strategies for dealing with the trauma from the past season. Steven's VA, Zach Callison, tweeted he was suffering from panic and anxiety◊ while building his career.

So uh on the ymmv page of Dmc Devil May Cry. Somone changed this Strawman Has a Point entry :

• Strawman Has a Point: While Mundus is an unmistakably evil asshole who could not care less about humanity except as livestock, and whose few redeeming qualities are out of pragmatism rather than having any standards, the anarchy that Dante is fighting for, according to Tameem Antoniades, is not a viable alternative. To quote the philosopher Ibn Taymiyya, "Better sixty years of tyranny than one night of anarchy."

To this Designated Hero entry :

• While Mundus is an unmistakably evil asshole who could not care less about humanity except as livestock, and whose few redeeming qualities are out of pragmatism rather than having any standards, the anarchy that Dante is fighting for, according to Tameem Antoniades, is not a viable alternative.'

Is this right as I'm not sure this a right use of this.

It's not Strawman Has a Point if the creator isn't presenting the villain as a strawman who's there to be wrong. If the hero's goal isn't clearly much better (as assumed by the story), then it's not a strawman. If the villain's point is a workable, if oppressive, option, then it's not a strawman.

A Designated Hero is someone who's arguable a villain, or at least a Jerkass, but are presented a shining moral pillar (or at least in that general direction). If they are heroic, or if they're not presented as heroic, then it's not a Designated Hero. I'm not familiar with the series, but I was under the impression that Dante's more of an Anti-Hero.