Fixing zero context examples

Tall, Dark, and Snarky abounds with Zero Context Examples. I tried to fix those I know (there were just a few of those, unfortunately).

It's most obvious in the Professional Wrestling section because it literally does have just the names. Other examples are not that much better when you read them.

I commented out the questionable and zero context entries.

edited 6th Mar '13 4:03:23 PM by XFllo

One Hundred Girls. Found it during the Heroic Sociopath cleanup.

Cute Witch is suffering from zero context as well.

Damn it, it most certainly is. Would you consider commenting it out yourself? Basically, you need to copy the header of this discussion and add this percent sign % twice in front of each zero context example.

I would do it, but I spent a lot of time today commenting out Tall, Dark, and Snarky and also Hot Witch. It's also a good idea to mention the problem in the discussion for the trope page.

edited 6th Mar '13 4:10:55 PM by XFllo

Sure I'll give it a shot.

Nice work, but I would cover even more of them.

• Ultra Maniac - though here she shares the lead role with her Muggle Best Friend, Ayu.
  • doesn't describe how she is cute and what makes her a witch
• The title character Majokko Tickle, despite being more mischievous than most on this list.
  • ditto, plus examples shouldn't be compared to each other
• Mahou Tsukai Chappy, a close emulator of Sally.
  • classic case of Zero Context Example
• Fushigiboshi No Futagohime starts of as this before becoming a Magical Girl Warrior series.
  • bad style, nearly zero context

Even this:

• Hermione, Luna and Ginny in the films of Harry Potter before they get old enough to qualify as Hot Witches round about film six.
  • I am sure now that everybody knows who the girls are, but how do they look in the books? Or in the films? Plus mentioning the wizard school and their adventure wouldn't hurt.

Not to mention Example Indentation should be like this:

• Harry Potter:
  • Hermione is a cute witch because
  • Luna is ...
  • Ginny is ...

Actually, there are hardly any well-written examples on that page.

edited 7th Mar '13 4:42:56 AM by XFllo

I went through this forum to see where I could lend a hand.

Post 151 mentions Say My Name and I agree, that page is an eyesore. Zero Context everywhere, screwed up Example Indentation, all capital and multiplied letters for screaming. Potholing to YMMV on the main page. It's awful to read, and it has zero information value to people who are not familiar with the works. I am going to comment them out.

EDIT: Any help of this would be appreciated. I separated the main page into sub-pages and commented out Film, LiveActionTV and Literature. Other pages need it just as badly. If you start purging, be merciless.

Also, consider checking if your favourite works happen to be commented out. Uncommenting would be sweet.

edited 7th Mar '13 6:36:01 PM by XFllo

Did a little cleanup on Starfish Language- there were only a couple blatant "[name of series], that's it" ones, but some are indistinguishable from Speaking Simlish or Foreign Sounding Gibberish without at least a note as to whether the viewer gets a translation. Just thought I'd drop a note here in case someone can fill the removed examples out properly.

I probably wasn't harsh enough, actually.

Small Reference Pools has a lot of Small Context Entries, much of which I have no idea what the relevant editors were trying to say. Work last night has me in something of a killing mood, but mass deletions is probably not the best path to take if I want to retain my editing privileges.

I'm trying to work out on it. I fancy myself a bit familiar with Art, though I am no great expert. Other entries need Example Indentation fixed. Also, you don't need to delete zero context or confusing entries. You can cover them ("comment out") by putting two percent signs in front of them. They will not be visible to readers, but editors might uncomment them later.

I agree that Small Reference Pools needs help badly. The geography section is a mess and it has lots of natter instead of focusing on stereotypical portrayal in fiction. There are even four asterisks sometimes. Ugh.

edited 10th Mar '13 3:56:05 PM by XFllo

I know about commenting out. That "killing mood" had me a little more bloodthirsty, though.

Anyway, I may give it a go later, when I have the time.

World of Snark has a lot of them. I made a list of wicks that need context or some polishing.

• Soredemo Machi Wa Mawatteiru
• Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality
• The Social Network, and many other things written by Aaron Sorkin.
• Anything written by Kevin Smith.
• Easy A.
• ''North By Northwest'
• The Thin Man series. Amajority of the comedy from the Studio System era, and a good deal of the mystery and suspense, falls into this trope.
• Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and The Last Boy Scout, because of Shane Black.
• {{1776}}
• The Elenium
• Most of Pratchett's work is this trope.
• ''Codex Alera': Nobody in Jim Butcher's works takes anything seriously unless they're the bad guy.
• The main cast of the first four Star Trek series qualify, in a relatively restrained way, adding more to the "high-class" image of Starfleet and Trek humans than anything else. (should be elaborated)
• ''Scrubs. Janitor, Cox, Jordan, Kelso, Carla, JD... List goes on and on. (could use some polishing)
• My Family
• Married... with Children
• Arrested Development
• Fawlty Towers
• Red Dwarf
• Everything Joss Whedon has written, ever.
  • Firefly
  • Buffy the Vampire Slayer
  • Dr. Horrible
  • Angel
• Gilmore Girls
• Wizards Of Waverly Place
• iCarly
• Victorious
• Big Time Rush
• That '70s Show
• Community. Especialy Jeff, but all the characters have some pretty good snarks. (could use some polishing)
• Seinfeld
• Curb Your Enthusiasm
• The Big Bang Theory
• Two And A Half Men
• Corner Gas
• Sherlock
• Elementary. Must be a Sherlock Holmes thing.
• Babylon 5
• Kaamelott
• Agnes.
• Basic Instructions
• The Order of the Stick
• Out There
• Questionable Content
• Scary Go Round and Bad Machinery
• Schlock Mercenary
• Something Positive
• Sluggy Freelance
• 8-Bit Theater
• Hodges Pond.
• That Guy with the Glasses.
• Red Vs Blue.
• Zero Punctuation, if only because its lone inhabitant provides enough snark all on his own to fill up an entire world.
  • (qestionable entry, if it's one-man-show, I think it doesn't qualify as World of Snark, edit: I deleted this one.)
• Teenage superhero teams often result in this. Teen Titans and Young Justice are prime examples.
• Adult superhero teams can also have this, as evidenced by Justice League and The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Avengers is particularly notable for having Hulk be a Deadpan Snarker
• Any Western Animation based upon Spiderman must be this trope to qualify as a Spidey cartoon.
• The Simpsons can be this at times.
• The Internet. Oh yes. (this one is the only Zero Context Example that I can tolerate )

edited 13th Mar '13 8:33:05 AM by XFllo

I'd say that Zero Punctuation doesn't count, for the reason you mentioned (not "world").

Wiki Walking around, I ran into Crusading Widower, which has a whole metric buttload of ZCEs. I tried to tweak some of them, but a lot of the material covered on that page I'm unfamiliar with, so I have no idea of the context.

Revenge Against Men is nothing but ZC Es. Not one of the examples has ample context, and most of the pages don't even have much detail (so they might not even fit).

Lady of Black Magic has some as well. I commented some of them out.

edited 18th Mar '13 6:33:02 PM by MissKitten

What exactly is Lady of Black Magic? It is just a power female magician or a power female magician with an aloof or reserved personality

I think she's supposed to be a powerful, feminine, female Squishy Wizard who mostly wields Black Magic, and is more mature, older, and reserved than The Hero.

edited 19th Mar '13 9:55:30 AM by MissKitten

Pray for me gentlemen, I am assaulting the League Of Legends character pages. If I don't return, remember me as some guy on the intraweb.

Also attending to some clean up. Got some Thread Mode and Example Indentation problems.

edited 20th Mar '13 1:31:41 PM by Rotpar

My God. Good luck with all that. Manic Pixie Dream Girl has a couple of Zero Context. I commented some of them out.

edited 21st Mar '13 4:04:13 PM by MissKitten

Dimension Heroes has no examples with context at all. I first thought it was an index.

[looks at page] Wow, you weren't kidding around.

I don't know anything about Dimension Heroes, so someone who does needs to fix that page pronto.

edited 22nd Mar '13 9:35:51 AM by ScoutsGirlfriend

Byronic Hero is a mess of examples stating the who but not the why. It looks like a lot of the works referenced are fairly popular so I think it could benefit from having a few people look it over and expand examples they are familar with.

edited 22nd Mar '13 12:50:02 PM by willthiswork

Good Shepherd has a lot with no context, especially in the film section.

Red-Headed Hero. Seriously.