These are what we call the 'YMMV items.' Things that some people find in this work. We call them 'your mileage might vary' because not everyone sees these things in the same way. This starts discussions in the trope lists, a thing we don't want. Please use the discussion page if you'd like to discuss any of these items.
YMMV: Guild Wars 2
Abridged Arena Array: If they're not running dungeons or fractals, or in the newest biweekly content, max-level players will frequently be camping areas with world bosses, or grinding for Daily and Monthly laurel chests in the lowest-level areas. The latter occurs as a result of the scaling being less pronounced in such areas, leaving a max-level character still well overpowered for the level 1-15 zones. Naturally, this has two problems: Newbies will have to compete with the flood of max-level players if they want to accomplish anything, and the remaining high-level areas will be starved of players. This can be problematic if somebody wishes to complete a group event involving, say, killing the Krait Witch in Timberline Falls.
This also is annoying in the mid level zones, which will always be empty even on server populations labeled as "Very high". No point backtracking to the previous zones that a player has already completed, or trying to see more zones that they haven't, because they will get no gear that benefits them.
Angst? What Angst?: Charr characters lose all but one member of their warband — something similar to losing their entire schoolroom class, close friends, warrior compatriots, and not-blood-siblings — by the time they're out of the tutorial, and part-way through the game they've also had to put down an undead version of their previous leader. No matter your character's disposition or text choices, they don't get very glum over it. This is a pretty common trait for the species; NPC Charr get mad or get even, rather than depressed.
Human characters of the Street Rat origin don't act as if they care much if Quinn gets killed by Two-Blade Pete, after the initial rage wears off anyway.
Anti-Climax Boss: For such a hyped up Big Bad, the fight against Zhaitan is an incredibly impersonal battle where you never get to face him directly, the final phase of the encounter having the players bombard him from afar with artillery while he spews poison breath attacks and undead dragon tentacles all over the ship. While initial bugs in the encounter that prevented him from attacking were fixed you still never feel very invested in the battle.
The remixed 8 bit soundtrack for the Super Adventure Box event as well as some new tracks that rips out the metal.
Broken Base: The change to the waypoints in the Dungeons. One camp feels that it's a good change, claiming that it makes people improve instead of relying on an exploit. The other camp feels that it's a bad change, claiming that casual players will be left out of dungeon runs as a result.
There has also been a great deal of argument within the fanbase with regard to the changes from Guild Wars to Guild Wars 2, particularly skill and combat system. Some feel it's good that things have been simplified and streamlined without the complexity of Guild Wars's massive number of skills. Others argue that combat has been too "dumbed down" because a greatly reduced emphasis on "builds", skills being tied to your weapon, the removal of the dedicated healer, and the change from the more complex Guild Wars system of hexes/enchantments/conditions to simply boons and conditions.
Magic find is a stat that helps improve your chances of obtaining rarer loot and can be increased through consumables, equipment, and runes. Some players find this state to be useful for farming and greatly help obtaining higher-tier crafting materials since there are many equipment that requires a lot of the said higher-tier crafting materials (to give you a demonstration, this is an example of one item where you need 250 of the said crafting material). Other players find this stat to be detrimental to team gameplay, cooperation, and dungeon runs, and feel that having a 200% magic find is like sacrificing other useful stats for better item loot that only benefits the player. ArenaNet decided to side with the later group in concerns that the current magic find system does not encourage team cooperation and decided to replace the magic find system with an account-based magic find system (they are compensating this with champion mobs that always drop a reward chest that grants the player the said higher-crafting materials).
The Cutthroat Politics Living Story event was fated to become this by its very nature. It split the fanbase in two, between players voting for Ellen Kiel (a Base Breaker in and of herself) and Evon Gnashblade. Points of contention included which Fractal dungeon people were more interested in (Thaumanova Reactor Explosion or the Fall of Abaddon), and which perk was better (cheaper waypoint costs or Black Lion Keys). No matter what happened, half the player base was going to be unsatisfied.
Cliché Storm: The trailers. Cool visuals, cool screenshots, "Now is the time! Claim your destiny! Forge your legend!".
The banner ads that went up when prepurchases started continue this fine tradition, with such catchy phrases as "Lead the Rebellion," "These are dangerous days to be different..." and "Rise Up!" none of which seem to have anything to do with the game.
Demonic Spiders: Anything that's designated as a "Champion" is to be avoided at all costs, unless you have a very large group available.
Risen Plaguebearers. From a distance, they can hit you with some devastating spells that cause a lot of damage and stack several bleeding conditions onto you. They can and will kill you and your allies really quickly and often come in large groups in personal story missions.
Also Risen Putrifiers. Wanna run away from a big group of the Risen because you're wounded? Too bad, the Putrifier will just pull you over to it in hugging distance even if you're far away from it and make it even more likely for you to get killed.
Almost anything Risen will be this for someone.
Inquest Mega Blasters are surprisingly deadly for their size. They can shoot- nay, spam energy balls that will follow you even when you dodge, and take off a huge chunk of your health. Thankfully, they only appear in the Crucible of Eternity.
Marjory Delaqua gained a quick following after her animated introduction (complete with Private Eye Monologue) was played during the Dragon Bash event.
Evon Gnashblade became popular for being a shady, greedy but Affably Evil charr, especially among people who found the perks of voting for him during the Cutthroat Politics event to be better than Ellen Kiel's.
Hobo-Tron, a Golem NPC at Divinity Reach, has gotten a lot of fan adoration and appreciation due to its humorous dialouge between many other NPCs, its cute appearance, and i's Chew Toy/Butt Monkey/The Woobie status. Some speculated that Hobo-Tron is Job-O-Tron from the May 2013 Southsun event. This is confirmed by Word of God himself.
Fan Dumb: Perhaps unsurprisingly this is already popping up, right now the biggest complaints are gems being a way to buy to win note despite that they've explicitly said you can't use gems to get anything that gives you an edge over other players, complaints about dyes being switched from account-based to character-based, and the lack of arenas, there's also the E-sport crowd versus those who want to play the game for its PVE.
There's also some backlash against ArenaNet's strict Code of Conduct and zero-tolerance policy for exploits. This can be somewhat understandable given their somewhat draconian attitude, but reading the incoherence, whining, and general entitlement of the banned, one gets the idea that the mods might have the right idea.
When the game was in development, one thing that was announced was that there would not be a dedicated tank or a Healing&Support class. In fact, you'd think people would be celebrating this, as it means everyone can play a warrior or Guardian as a DPS class, and that nobody will be forced to pick the "Boring" healing and support. And yet what does everyone seem to want in the Mapchat? A dedicated Healing and Support class.
In regards to the magic find debate, there are a small group of players who hate that stat so much to the point of flatout sating that it doesn't make a big difference on finding higher-tier materials note This is proven incorrect, an NPC during a Southsun Cove Living Story event granted a player a 200%+ magic find boost exclusive for that region, which made a huge difference in getting more of the said materials.
Goddamn Bats: The Krait. They haunt the most spacious watery places on the map. More often than not, you'll have to fight them underwater, which limits what skills you can use. It's impossible to move through their territory without attracting attention, and they can come at you from just about any angle. Worse, players seldom actually stay in their areas for long, so don't expect much backup when dealing with them or their Dynamic Events. The Risen are another example for most of the game, being extremely annoying but not particularly difficult to defeat. Then you reach Orr and they become Demonic Spiders instead...
Early on, particularly in the Charr starting grounds, you have hyenas. Sure they're easy to kill, but then they always strike you with the first blow that inflicts Cripple (a condition where your movement speed is reduced as well as your skill recharge). It's really annoying to be a powerful character that always limps, because that level 8 Cripple takes a while to go.
Wolves. They go down easily enough and don't really cause a lot of damage...but they have a move that allows them to summon another wolf that you have to kill and which can in turn also call for help. If you don't take them out quickly enough, then you might yourself stuck fighting several of the beasts consecutively before you can finally take a breath.
No mention of Gravelings yet? You go into the Ascalonian Catacombs, figuring a low level dungeon will be good for your first run. You quickly realize that you were very wrong. Don't have a full party? You're gonna have a bad time. Don't have any elementslists with the frost bow to spam burrows? You're gonna have a bad time. Don't stick together? Bad time.Run the wrong direction? Bad time. You get the picture. Even if you manage to have the odds in your favor, all it takes is one stun or knockdown in the wrong place at the wrong time to have you swarmed by a mass of lizard death, followed by the rest of your team. Goddamn bats,indeed.
Anything that can frequently knock you down, stun you or daze you. You're unable to do jack while the enemies beat you up.
Imps. They vary in elemental mastery (Fire Imp, Shadow Imp, etc.) but all are equally annoying. They can inflict major damage that causes a condition, they have a long projectile range, and they move fast.
Guide Dang It: Good luck getting some of the crafting skills, particularly Chef, up to 400 without a guide. A lot of the components needed to make the higher level items are just so rare, obscure, and hard to find that figuring out all the recipes can be nearly impossible. And not everything can be bought from the Black Lion Trading Company.
Finding all the jumping puzzles in the game. While some are located near their namesake waypoints (eg. The Sector Zuhl jumping puzzle is located in, believe it or not, Sector Zuhl.) others are VERY well hidden in the world. And in at least one case, a jumping puzzle is not located in its namesake cave, but instead on some rocks outside and around the side of the cave.
Most Annoying Sound: The assorted battle cries of the Risen, such as "Everyone, come!" and "Death...good!" You're going to hear those a lot in Orr.
"Your weakness makes me laugh!". Said by the Son of Svanir Shaman, boss of the Snowblind fractal, every time he finishes using his deadly icicle rain attack. Which you will be hearing a lot considering that he has a lot of health and uses said attack every 30 seconds or so.
"Prove the sun shines through you. Face me as another form!" said by Xolotl every time she transforms players. It wouldn't be too bad... if you didn't hear that damn sound across the whole map, and she didn't use the transform attack whenever nobody is fighting her. It's even worse if nobody is taking care of her, meaning that if you're going to Caledon Forest, you will inevitably hear that sound over and over and over...
Male Sylvari make a reasonable, pained groan whenever they are crippled, which for the most part sounds acceptably genuine. When female Sylvari are crippled, they let out a horrible, 5-second long, overly-dramatic scream which might be better reserved for a "yodeler-skinned-alive-and-dragged-through-salt" condition, instead one which is merely an inconvenience to your mobility. It's not even narm- just unsettling and annoying.
Player Punch: A lot of these can happen during the course of the Personal Story, though the most notable happens during The Battle of Claw Island. Not only do you lose the fight, but your Order mentor (Lightbringer Tybalt, Magister Sieran, or Warmaster Forgal) who you fought alongside for the past 20 levels, dies to cover your escape.
The Scrappy: Fans do not like Trahearne due to him being perceived as taking over the role of the hero in the personal story, with the player relegated to being just his second-in-command. He doubles as a Replacement Scrappy since he replaces your Order mentor, who dies shortly beforehand.
Ellen Kiel is getting this treatment within the fandom in a similar way that Trahearne is getting: boring character and taking credit from major Living Story events in Southsun Cove and hunting down Mai Trin, leader of the Aetherblades.
Scarlet Briar has gotten a lot of flak for being a flat and badly written saturday morning cartoon style villain who is unbelievably smarter than Asuras. The only thing that the fandom can agree is good about her is her voice, which sadly doesn't redeem a Scrappy.
It doesn't help that ever since her reveal, pretty much all alliances and shenanigans are tied up to her. The fandom jokes about how "she is responsible for awakening the dragons".
The Fire Elemental. It spawns embers all of the time, sets you on fire for too long, and it can kill you with just a few fireballs that comes with little warning, and most of the time said fireballs hits you with little time between them, downing you almost as quickly as you got knocked down by the first fireball. Doesn't help that most players seems to think it's a good idea to stand on the narrow bridge and try to attack it from there, when that's actually the fastest way for the Fire Elemental to kill you. To add insult to injury, that boss is located not in a high-level zone, but in the Asura starter zone, Metrica Province. This comes as a rude shock, to say the least, to players starting out in the game who arrive at the boss's location near the end of the zone and are expecting a tough but doable fight. The difficulty of the Fire Elemental was reduced in the past, but was buffed again following the Tequatl Rising Living Story update. The elemental's regained most of its strength and the embers occasionally morph into mini invincible firewheels, chasing after players and inflicting constant burns and blinds around its immediate area. Unless a group 60-players strong are completing the event, you can expect tons and tons of dead allies.
Ironically, The Fire Elemental fought in Iron Marches (A level 50-60 zone for comparison) is MUCH easier than the one in Metrica Province, because not is there a protective field protecting you from its attacks, but you only need to defeat the embers to defeat it. In fact, the shaman who summoned it is the real challenge.
Rozgar the Forge in the Citadel of Flame main quest is easily the hardest boss, due to the fact that he starts out with a greatsword and two floating greatsword adds. All three of them can use a whirlwind attack that is fast, covers a large area, hits multiple times, and can do up to 1500-4000+ damage PER HIT. Fortunately, he stops using this once he loses 1/4 of his health and becomes a Goddamned Boss with Teleport Spam once his health drops to 1/4.
Kudu's second golem in Sorrow's Embrace can come off as a nasty surprise if the players doesn't have a lot of weapon skills that doesn't inflict conditions. The reason? It consumes its conditions to heal itself, forcing the party to rely on raw damage to defeat it, and screwing over players whose auto attacks inflict conditions. Oh, and the golem really enjoy shooting fireballs all over the place that will target and burn you for large damage, and will likely down you if you are standing too close to another player. And just to make it even worse, in one of Sorrow's Embrace's explorable paths, you have to fight both the golem and THE OTHER TWO GOLEMS, AT THE SAME TIME.
Do we even need to talk about Giganticus "Motherfucking" Lupicus? Present in every single explorable path for Arah, extending the length of that dungeon by an extra thirty minutes to an hour due to his ridiculous amount of health (split into three phases) and super-high damage that guarantees the imminent death of Glass Cannon players and forces you to actually use your dodge rolls prudently. Inexperienced groups will wipe a few times and their repair bills will be immense, and at least decent communication is needed to properly combat him. In his first phase players have to stack up and attack him at range while killing off his summons, one of which if not killed in time will literally dash to him and be eaten, increasing his damage output and resistance to ridiculously high levels and is impossible to remove unless the boss resets. His second phase, considered the most brutal is one where he dashes to players and damages them while flinging bouncing, speedy energy bolts that can kill players not specced for vitality or toughness... in addition to shooting said energy bolts around the entire arena. Luckily if players manage to survive through this phase his final chunk of health involves a lot of close to mid-range attacks that are easier to predict and dodge than the previous phase. It's still a brutal, agonizing fight though.
Simin is pretty much the reason hardly anyone will form a group for the Seers' path in Arah's explorable mode. Her schtick is that she can turn invisible and the only way to make her appear again is to bring enough sparks to the statue of Dwayna. While she's invisible, she's completely invulnerable and regenerates her health. She can regenerate to full health if you don't cancel her invisibility fast enough! She can also petrify people and the only way to cure that is to toss tears at the afflicted players. In order to win this fight, everyone has to know what they’re doing, everyone has to be well-coordinated, and most of all, everyone has to be a Glass Cannon. Otherwise, Simin will regenerate more health than the team can take down. Worse, the fight is notoriously buggy and the sparks have some odd pathfinding issues, making it all the more easy for Simin to fully regenerate.
The very first boss that will make a group of new characters cry tears of bitterness is "The Lovers", a Mesmer and Elementalist pair is Ascalon Catacombs. They must be kept away from one another or they'll regenerate health faster than you can possibly damage them, making crowd control coordination an absolute must, while also dealing with the Elementalist's damage and the Mesmer's debuffs simultaneously. It may not look so hard on paper, but getting a new group to coordinate enough for it is near-impossible without huge repair fees and lots of frustration.
Turmaine, the last boss in the Seraph route of the Caudecus' Manor explorable mode, can be this. He puts down many areas of conditions which can overlay, capable of downing people if they don't dodge or cure themselves in time. Then, he has a plague form which makes him invulnerable AND deals three separate stacking/intensifying conditions at the same time AND has "super-speed". Oh, did anyone mention his plague form just feels painfully long and merely prolongs an already fairly frustrating level in itself?
The Archdiviner in the Cliffside fractal. He's not so hard in the first part of the fractal, where he has only three notable attacks. While he deals heavy damage with every melee attack, he is still rather slow and his ranged attacks (AoEs) are easy to avoid. However, when you meet him at the end of the fractal, he will suddenly become this as the player party progress through his phases, where he gains the ability to deal so much damage that he can down you in a single hit, the ability to summon plenty of minions to overwhelm you, and the ability to teleport you into cages and trap you in them (And thanks to dodgy hitboxes, it can be hard to hit the cages) all while taking damage like it's nothing. If the player party is disorganized, the Archdiviner will make them cry. Thankfully, there's a bug that allows you to bypass all of that trouble... but it's likely that Anet will allow that bug to stay.
Ulgoth the Modniir in the Harathi Hinterlands is also quite frustrating for a non-dungeon champion. The fight has 3 phases and has a time limit of 20 minutes to boot. The first phase is against 3 large "War Beasts" (each a champion unit in its' own right) whose attacks all have knock-down effect. Defeating these is likely to take 8-10 mins for an average group. The second phase is relatively easy against an earth elemental, but it's likely to take around 2 minutes and introduces an environmental effect that will stay during the rest of the battle: mini-hurricanes that knock you around and cause a several-second knockdown, interrupting any attacks. After that, Ulgoth himself joins the fray and the group has ~8-10 mins to whittle down his enormous HP while he can down anyone in one hit at melee range and is almost as devastating at long range, making AoE buffs like banners rather useless. Running out of time just as his HP is all but vanished is a common occurence.
Then there's the Queen's Gauntlet, which seems to have been deliberately made of this. It would be easier to list the number of matches that aren't frustrating. Most of Tier 3 is a hair-ripping experience, and a number of the achievements for it are often the result of a combination of persistence, trial and error, and luck. Special mention goes to Liadri the Concealing Dark, a boss that can take dozens if not hundreds of protracted attempts to beat. Players seem to agree that possessing the miniature that's awarded for beating her is an outstanding sign of your dedication and skill. For the truly masochistic, there's also the gambit system...
Liadri's fight deserves extra mention, since it was a knife's edge between a win or a loss. The fight involved two phases, the first of which had Liadri, who was invincible, tossing out projectiles from the center while dark clones of her walked towards your character. You had to kite those clones towards pools of light, forming pickups which you tossed at Liadri. After 3 hits with the pickups, the second phase starts and she starts chasing you with her obscenely powerful whip while the number of clones spawn faster. By the way, as soon as one of those clones makes physical contact with you, it's an instant kill. There's also a periodic AoE that covers a quarter of the circular stage that also causes instant death, and the AoE doubles to form an hourglass shape in the second phase. Shining orbs will occasionally spawn and pull your character - sometimes saving you from the instant-kill attacks, but more often dragging you into one of them. The fight progresses as a frantic mix of kiting Liadri and her clones, timing dodges for the instant kill attacks, and trying to deal enough damage to win the fight before the timer expires. Many failures were the result of a clone spawning a bit too close to your character, or running out of dodges to avoid the next AoE.
Tequatl Rising revamped Tequatl the Sunless from a low-difficulty piece of scenery to a meat grinder. The battle is now multiple events, requires for 80 players or more, and needs tremendous amounts of preparation, DPS, consumables, and coordination. It's also on a 15-minute timer that results in failure if it runs out, riddling the area with instant-death mines.
Anyone that went for the Belcher's Bluff mini-game achievements know of the extreme annoyance that is Adnul Irongut. For people that don't know, the Belcher's Bluff achievments involves the player facing off against six NPCs, each with signature moves. The match plays out like a drinking game - normal drinks reduces the player's standardized health, but they can also fake a swig, drink water to restore some health (but has a 3-turn cooldown), or belch, causing their opponent to take extra damage if they faked and negating the health restoration of water. Adnul's special move was Critique, which prevented fake swigging for three turns. If your belch or water was on cooldown, this was a death sentence, as you would usually lose all your health after five straight drinks. He also had the nasty habit of using Critque again right after the previous one had worn off. Coupled with an extremely large health pool, the match soon turned into a Luck-Based Mission as the only chance that player had was to predict/guess the turns Adnul would use water and counter with belch, and hope he didn't start spamming Critique. There were some glitches that other players have exploited for easier wins, such as using food/rejuvenation boosters for health regeneration, but they have all been patched.
That One Level: The three Orrian zones (Straits of Devastation, Malchor's Leap, and Cursed Shore) are hated by much of the fanbase. The landscape is gloomy and utterly dismal and half of the waypoints can often end up contested if there's not at least a devoted number of players around to defend them. This leaves players stuck having to hike across huge swaths of the map, which are absolutely congested with Demonic Spiders and Goddamn Bats that hit hard and can crowd control you easily.
At least one fractal from the Fractals of the Mist dungeon will fall under this although what fractal that is varies based on luck and level.
The Underground Facility fractal can be very long, filled with an ever-increasing number of enemies as the players go up in level, and a boss that effectively requires one player to remove themselves from fighting and have the rest running and gunning the boss around a large arena.
The Cliffside fractal is a long-hike up shoddily built scaffolds that are designed to make sure players fall to their death if their attention slips while having one player carrying a hammer that will slowly kill them. That alongside a few spots that require careful planning and execution to advance can make it frustrating.
The Swampland fractal. The party needs to carry three wisps to a few trees in a strict time limit (which starts as soon as one wisp is picked up), while there's barely visible traps everywhere that do anything to trip, cripple and slowdown the player, mooks everywhere to force you into combat, and even an invisible legendary mob (Mossman) around to kill you if he sees you (On higher fractal difficulties, the Mossman's axe throws will inflict agony on hits). Oh, and the terrain changes to prevent you from getting a wisp over to the trees.
The Volcanic fractal is rather short but ends with a very frustrating That One Boss that can spell the end of a party if they are not properly prepared and geared for the showdown.
Urban Battlegrounds fractal has you transformed into a generic Charr and forced into a lengthy battle that has you invade a city and capture its square. The party is reliant on a group of elite mobs that fight alongside you but tend to be borderline Leeroy Jenkins as they like to attack groups of enemies that are far too sizable for the party to fight. Even worse is they have a tendency to not respawn alongside the party if the party does wipe out. Combine that with a huge area that has a tendency to perform badly even on powerful computer and you have a level that can be very frustrating to play through.
Ugly Cute: The Necromancer profession's Bone Minions look endearingly—and grotesquely—like a cheerful, skinned hybrid between a gerbil and a monkey.
Rox's pet devourer, Frostbite. It may be a giant two-tailed scorpion, but its huge eyes are rather charming.
Uncanny Valley: The Asura were given a rehash in between Guild Wars Eye of the North and Guild Wars 2. The results make them look like some kind of cross between a hairless troll doll and a Yordle. And in a more realistically rendered game? The results are less than unsettling...
The Sylvari aren't much better; they look very human, but some of their plant features throw them right into this, whether it be growths on their heads or the different analogs for ears, or some of the different colorations over otherwise normal looking faces, they just look off. Then again, this is deliberate on the artists' part - the sylvari mimic the appearance of humans, but are still fundamentally plants that only resemble humans. If you give your salad a coloration that too-strongly mimics human skin, then they can heavily resemble ghouls with certain face styles and body patterns.
The Wintersday 2013 patch has introduced new faces in the Total Makeover Kit - 3 for each race/gender. Some of the new sylvari faces lack noses, and have large beady eyes◊. Comparisons with aliens were made by the community almost immediately. The new asura faces are less uncanny, but feature a rather...bemused expression◊. Stoned asura as a meme is starting to take off.
Sayeh al' Rajihd is a largos, so her body is humanlike, and she wears a face concealing rebreather. So she doesn't look like this trope at first... until you notice through her mask that not only does her eye make no movement at all, but she doesn't blink either. Which may have been a purposeful design choice.