These are what we call the 'YMMV items.' Things that some people find in this work. We call them 'your mileage might vary' because not everyone sees these things in the same way. This starts discussions in the trope lists, a thing we don't want. Please use the discussion page if you'd like to discuss any of these items.
YMMV: Game Grumps
Accidental Innuendo: From their Family Feud grumpage: "Name something fathers buy for their kids but play with themselves". Lampshaded, of course.
"You can tongue up?!"
"What a cock!" Said by Jon in response to Arin cocking a gun.
"Stop trying to blow through it and enjoy yourself."
Accidental Nightmare Fuel: In the Grant Kirkhope episode, Jon, Arin and Grant have the clip of the finale of Banjo-Kazooie rather than play it themselves. When this is other it cuts back to Banjo in a dark, dank pipe, slowing drowning to death. Kinda makes it seem like it was all in Banjo's head while he slowly dies.
Arc Fatigue: Sonic 06 can be this, as it's at least twelve hours of content, and Shadow's Story isn't much different than Sonic's Story gameplaywise, focusing on the actual plot. Silver's Story, which features radically different gameplay, seems to be remedying this.
Not helped by the fact that the Grumps themselves seem bored with it by about halfway through Shadow's campaign, going on random tangents and there being long stretches where the two don't mention anything about the game.
Archive Panic: They usually post two videos every day of at least 10 to 20 minutes in length. A single month usually provides at least 10 hours of content. Understandably daunting for anyone who wants to catch up.
Big Lipped Alligator Moment: In the first episode of their Donkey Kong Country playthrough, Birdo is edited in to appear briefly. She quickly runs off-screen and no mention is made of it. Jon was singing part of the Super Mario 2 Boss music, so Barry edited her in.
A small example. Some fans dismiss the series due to a long standing Fandom Rivalry between reddit and 4chan. Jon has used a couple of reddit memes in his work and has mentioned the site a few times in Game Grumps, as has Egoraptor. However, most people outside the rivalry find the whole situation ridiculous. Jon and Ego specifically mention this Broken Base at the start of their Secret of Mana playthrough and also find it to be ridiculous. Incidentally Game Grumps have a fairly popular and thriving subreddit.
Their New Super Mario Bros Wii series was very divisive as Jon and Arin constantly bashed the game. However they walked back their criticisms slightly and admit they might be due to nostalgia, as well as explained them more. Some fans still dislike the series just because they don't think the videos are funny. However, they stopped playing because despite their insistence that they were having fun it was pretty obvious they hated the game, and indeed when they came to play NSMBU it was a one-off.
Both Jon and Arin hated Skyward Sword but enjoyed Twilight Princess. They have however promised a full explanation about Skyward Sword at some point and have criticized aspects of Twilight Princess, such as how barren the game's areas feel.
Arin says he enjoyed the gameplay of Metroid: Other M despite thinking the story was trash. Given that particular game is The Scrappy of the series, Internet Backdraft was immediate.
On that note, a similar reaction when he said that Sonic Adventure 2 was just as bad as Sonic 06.
The second video in their Nintendo Land playthrough - more specifically, their prolonged comparison drawing the legitimacy of 1:1 Wii Motion+ controls between Skyward Sword and Nintendo Land's own Zelda-themed minigame - has caused the original point to rear its ugly head.
The "Like" animation that would swing down for a few seconds was hated by many vocal complainers. Apparently the negative reaction was strong enough to cause the sign to completely stop appearing after a few videos.
Yet, paradoxically, when it did appear those episodes of Game Grumps ended up on the YouTube front page.
Whenever Arin brings up and insults the original Devil May Cry and says the same things that the media said about how fans are only whining about the hair, it's enough for the video to start an argument. He doesn't do this once, but twice. Its a case of Cowboy Bebop at his Computer given he's not even a fan of Devil May Cry and doesn't understand the controversy to begin with and is only fueling the fire.
Naughty Bear, Episode 1. Frustration at the episode led to debate as to whether Jon and Arin talking was the most important part of the show, or if Jon and Arin playing and progressing through a game was more important, they stumbled through that first section of Naughty Bear ignoring hints and dialogues and then complaining they don't know what to do. This kind of thing, for better or worse, gets the YouTube commenters up in arms (see Fan Dumb below).
The Seinfeldian Conversation. Some people think they should talk about the game and funny events in the game (ex: Shadow's kick to the back of Silver's head, that they missed twice (make that thrice... Actually, make that four times). Other people either don't care or argue that their completely random conversations are what make the show what it is.
There's also a pretty big divide among the fans as to who was right in the Guts argument.
In the Mega Man X7 Part 1 Red Dead Redemption players were bothered with Arin's comments about the game while to a lesser extent Mega Man Legends fans were annoyed with Jon's comments.
In some of the more recent Sonic 06 episodes Jon mentions that he hated the original Bio Shock and Arin seems to have mixed feelings about the most recent entry in said series, Bio Shock Infinite. Arin also once again continues talking about how much he hates the 2013 Tomb Raider reboot. It is worth mentioning that Jon does constantly compliment BioShock: Infinite and keeps trying to get Arin to shut up about Tomb Raider (since Jon does like it). This has seemingly caused another rift among Grump fans, with some fans starting to think Arin is coming off sounding a bit pretentious about his ideas regarding game design; but most of all there are now Grump fans who argue whether or not if some groups of fans are just blindly agreeing with Jon and/or Arin's opinions, or on the other side of the coin if some fans are just being rude to Jon and Arin's opinions. There does not seem to be much of an in between.
The Complainer Is Always Wrong: Tying into Fan Dumb, Grumps fans seem to rail against the Grumps whenever they express dislike or distaste for popular games, or otherwise not siding with the majority. For example, in episode four of Aladdin Genesis, Jon and Arin have a disagreement over Symphony of the Night. A lot of the comments section is Grumps fans siding against Arin and claiming that he just rails against, dismisses or otherwise bullies Jon until he changes his opinion, and that he's completely harsh to any game he doesn't like, probably because it's Symphony of the Night and was very popular, a fact Arin mentions.
The intro to Game Grumps Vs videos already seems to be this.
The intro to Guest Grumps, composed by Grant Kirkhope.
Ensemble Darkhorse: The twitchy Taillow from the animated videos seems to have gained quite a bit of popularity.
Poppy Bros and the Lotad family have also enjoyed a surge of popularity, but it's unknown if this has leaked out of the fanbase in any noticeable way.
Barry the editor, surprisingly enough, has been getting a lot of fan love around the time Sonic 2006 and Return to Dreamland came out, mostly due to the funny annotation he writes on-screen whenever he's addressed by the grumps.
Proof of his popularity amongst Game Grumps fans can be found here
His popularity was bolstered by his inclusion of a sped up Separate Ways by Journey in the second Contra Episode. Seriously, look at the comments here
Grant Kirkhope's Guest Appearance has become insanely popular over-night.
Jon and Arin instantly like Blaze when she first shows up, and when they finally get to play her, Jon expresses surprise that he's actually having fun playing Sonic '06.
Fan Dumb/Hate Dumb: Grumps fans' propensity to complain about minor bullshit is the reason this is such a laundry list:
Several obsessive fans (or perhaps just trolls) spam /v/ on a regular basis with Game Grumps. Non-fans then berate Jon and Ego, who continually say that it's not them doing it and they can't really be responsible for someone else's actions.
A large amount of fans have started bitching and moaning about how Game Grumps has become the main focus for both Arin and Jon. A common argument is that Game Grumps takes a day to produce a week's worth of content and its popularity means that Jon and Arin make a lot of money without doing any real work. Linking in with portion of the fandom that hate Jon, Jon gets most of the criticism for not making new episodes because he's an easy target, what these fans don't realise is that Jon actually has to write, shoot, cut and edit his episodes, despite this Jon has put out more episodes since Game Grumps' inception than Arin has. Both Grumps have denied that the show is the reason they aren't doing any work, and are adamant that Game Grumps is just a side-project.
The money argument continually crops up, with people arguing, in addition to the show itself being fairly lucrative for both of them, that their offerings of T-Shirts and Merchandise was purely to make money (in fact a lot of people requested shirts and stuff BEFORE they started offering them). What these people fail to realise is that while Game Grumps has a lot of output, the number of views per episode is probably much lower than either of Jon or Arin's solo works (granted, when you consider their output this is probably irrelevant). But more importantly, that money has to be split four ways, between Jon, Arin, Barry and maybe TGS. So while neither grump is struggling to make ends meet at this point, there's probably a great deal of incentive to continue making solo projects.
Some people on the Game Grumps subreddit are pretty nasty and judgmental about Arin's fiancée, despite knowing next to nothing about her.
The small portion of the fandom that hates Jon. It's particularly bad because they hate Jon and will use anything to criticise him, but they're all full of praise for Arin and don't think he can do any wrong whatsoever. This is consistent with a large majority of Egoraptor's YouTube fanbase. Also Jon mentioned in an episode of Aladdin SNES a 4Chan hate group designed to get a rise out of him, stating that he's inferior to Arin because he's never worked at Fox (Arin states Jon is lucky for not having worked at Fox, it was a horrible experience) or been on the Tester (a large part of Arin's fanbase and Arin hated the Tester) among other things.
Generally, fans that liked Jon independently of Game Grumps but hate him on the show will typically argue that the show brings out his worst traits. Which is...they never criticise Egoraptor for doing exactly the same, if not worse. At best, any criticism levelled at Egoraptor will be at his taste in games.
Lately they've taken their stupidity to an extreme, complaining about Jon's complaining about The Great Cave Offensive and how he wouldn't play properly because he finds it boring, despite the fact that: A) Jon played it just fine. B) Egoraptor complains about plenty of games they play (Battletoads for instance) C) They never play anything properly, ever.
And now they hate Arin for being so negative and for 'corrupting' Jon amongst other things, as demonstrated by this disgruntled fan.
Some of the fans have yet to catch on to the fact that Game Grumps isn't live, and therefore the Grumps cannot interact with them. Some times they read the comments, but given one of Egoraptor's latest tweets this is unlikely to happen again.
The fans that insist the Game Grumps have to be funny.
A slow period in January from both the Grumps being very ill after Magfest has some segments of the fandom up in arms because there's only one Game Grumps a day.
Which is actually probable, seeing how a number of other Youtube personalities (some who wouldn't typically play games like it either) also played it around the same time, and considering the game's massive marketing budget
And now they're being accused of being "sellouts" and "only playing modern games now and not classic games" because they're playing Portal 2.
Which they only did because their SD Capture software wasn't working properly.
Their poor performance in episode 2 of their Wheel of Fortune playthrough has left a lot of people infuriated. It's honestly somewhat difficult to find comments that aren't just "IT'S SPICY YOU IDIOTS".
Other memes just from the first two weeks: "Higgs Boson", "Boopinest", "Pause Balls", "Groomp", and "Poppy Bros".
Another is "[x] is in Egoraptor", a response to one of the guys getting an email asking if someone they knew was "in Egoraptor" (implying they thought Egoraptor referred to a group of people, not one individual).
In the more traditional sense of a meme, the word "tinky" in relation to bosses that make a "tink" noise to denote invincibility when they're hit.
"HEY I'M GRUMP" is one used somewhat ironically by those who dislike the show, and legitimately by some who like it.
The "you're a pizza!" line has given way to the (too-easy) character insult "Pete's a pizza" in the Goof Troop/Game Grumps fandom overlap.
JON'S GAY, SHOW US YOUR BUTT.
While they did not invent the meme, they have definitely contributed to the spread of the phrase "realtalk", typically by saying "Yo, realtalk" or "But seriously, realtalk".
Intentionally mangling the show title. "WELCOME TO GRAM GROOP!"
Ho Yay: In Kirby Super Star, if you eat some food, you can kiss your partner to give them some of it, leading to Egoraptor and Jon Tron talking about kissing each other on-camera.
This lead to, in one episode when Egoraptor had Wheelie: "I wanted to ride you, but apparently I had to kiss you first".
Hype Backlash: For the Sonic 06 playthrough, the fandom was eagerly awaiting Silver's Dusty Desert, which features the infamous ball puzzle, known for being incredibly rage-inducing and time-consuming. The Grumps only spend 13 minutes on it and only get kinda annoyed by it.
Magnum Opus: The general consensus seems to be (in both the eyes of the fans and Jon and Arin) that Goof Troop was the best series of Game Grumps.
However, Sonic 06 is definitely contesting it.
When it comes to one-shots, people usually agree that either Drakhen, Chuckie Cheese or the Guest Grumps with Grant Kirkhope are the best.
Jon's screaming is just about always hilarious to listen to.
Nausea Fuel: In the middle of the Sonic '06 playthrough, we hear a really graphic story from Jon Tron about the time that Egoraptor got food poisoning while he was at MA Gfest. Definitely not for the squeamish.
In episode 87 of the Sonic playthrough, Arin has another profoundly graphic story about food poisoning. Incidentally, this story is told during White Acropolis, just like the first story was.
Egoraptor's story, also in Clanker's Cavern. He was home alone one day, and his family's cordless phone rang. It was down in the basement, so he went to go answer it. He answered, and all he heard was an echoing droning noise, which he has admitted to being afraid of. So basically he was home all alone, in a dark basement, hearing a noise that utterly terrifies him through a phone...
Nearly anything they talk about in Clanker's Cavern, appropriately enough.
The giant snowman in Banjo Kazooie that has massive eyes. At least according to Jon.
Almost everything to do with Spice World due to the horrifyingly bad character models. Also, the ending.
Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: Starting with Part 6, their New Super Mario Bros Wii playthrough, which takes place after they read the comments, wherein they realize that they were being too vitriolic about their stance of It's the Same, so It Sucks, as well as Jon being genuinely upset that he pissed off a lot of the viewers. They haven't retracted their opinions, but they were aware they weren't being fair about it.
Jon's hatedom seems to have died down, however, Arin seems to be building up a hatedom by stating a number of controversial opinions, including a numberofpopulargameshe thinks are bad, often with little reasoning to back it up, and to add more fuel to the fire, he stated his opinions on the new Dante, saying that it was just a change in hair color and nothing else. Some also started viewing him as a Hypocrite for saying that Cole and Evil Cole are the exact same character in Playstation All-Stars, while defending Smash Brothers, a game series with a number of clones, and previously defended Wolf, saying he wasn't a Fox clone.
Arin's comments about Devil May Cry actually involves that the reboot version of the main character looks more realisitc than the original who had long white hair. He also stated that he didn't like Dante due to him being a overly cool character and unrelatable. This links back to the Sequelitis episode in which Arin found Mega Man X as a relatable character which made the game more appealing.
Jon and Arin found CPU-controlled DK to be this in their Mario Party 4 LP, when he was constantly an abysmal failure at every minigame (and became The Load for whatever team he was placed on.)
Special Effects Failure: The Grumps's games are played at 60fps, but their recording software is only set to 30fps. This means any game constructs with a two-frame flicker effect will either appear completely solid or completely invisible. This will often make watching games like Castlevania or Gradius confusing, as several important sprites feature such an effect.
Spoiled by the Format: The TMNT Tournament Fighters Game Grumps Vs. episode is specified as "best out of five" by Ego (after he loses twice). He manages to take the next round, but it's clear that Jon's going to win because there's only a couple minutes left in the episode by that point.
In Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Fighting Edition, Jon comments that he could win the episode when there's 5 full minutes left on the video. He actually DOES win. They just decide to have another round anyway.
Arin takes a 2-1 advantage in a best of five about nine minutes before the end of the Castlevania: Judgement video. It's painfully obvious that Jon's going to win the fourth round and tie it up. Not only does Jon tie it up, but he ends up winning the fifth match.
Chu Chu Rocket takes up two episodes, and despite Jon having 2/3 victories at the start of the second episode, the second episode is 18 minutes long. Jon actually wins about a third into the episode, and they just spend a surprising amount of time on the game's puzzle mode.
What an Idiot: During their playthrough of Goof Troop, despite it being pretty obvious that to defeat the first boss you have to catch the barrels and bombs they toss and throw them back, the duo never realize this and only try catching the bombs after they've landed and run the risk of exploding (which then only give them about a second to throw them back). It works about as well as you can imagine.
What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made on Drugs?: Despite the goofiness, Arin and Jon confess in one of the Mega Man 7 videos that they are neither high nor drunk when doing the show. In fact, Arin is actually a teetotaler.
The accusation that the Grumps are drunk or high is one they've fielded before, with even Jay Onrait and Dan O'Toole alleging that they must be on weed at least.
The Woobie: Arin's constant failure at Nickelodeon GUTS goes from hilarious to sad when, try as he might, he just can't get past a certain point in the second obstacle course, until he just has his character crawl into a corner and wait for the time to run out.
He can also become this when you compare his VS results to Jon's.
Writer Revolt: Arguably their Dead Space 3 video. If they were indeed paid/forced to play the demo, they insulted the game the entire time, often in much subtler ways than say, New Super Mario Bros. Wii.
