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openHow to trope animals with humanoid bodies?
So, the Petting-Zoo People page apparently got deleted because people thought it was a duplicate of Beast Man. This is something I'd like to dispute someday, since Beast Man declares that the animals in question are a separate fantastic race from animals, while Petting-Zoo People are simply animals with human proportions, which I feel is distinct from Funny Animal.
If a animal has simply a humanoid body, like Star Fox, would it be Funny Animal or Beast Man? I am confused.
openNot so Ridiculously Human Robots
Ridiculously Human Robots is about robots who have human traits, even when they would have no real purpose to be designed to begin with (such as emotions). But what about a robot meant to impersonate someone? The human traits are then justified, as the robot has to react exactly as the impersonated person would. Is it still an example, then?
openPage with no existing work Literature
While clicking the Random Media button, I came across the page for Linda. The page has four examples on it, and the description of the work claims that it's a short story hosted on a Google Document. Clicking on the provided link shows that the Document was deleted at some point, and I can't find any other copy of it online. There's no linked account for the author, the history for the page doesn't show who made it in the first place, and only five tropers (including myself at one point last year, to my surprise) have edited the page over the past 8 years.
I would like to ask what's the best course of action for a page like this. Do you cut the whole page, or do you toss it into the Unpublished Works section?
Courtesy link: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Literature.Linda
openRequesting Image Edits
Is there a forum thread where I can go to request an image edit? I launched the SpongeBob SquarePants: Video Game Characters page recently, and unfortunately, the best image I could find of Robo-Patrick contains a distracting number that I'm unable to edit out myself because I don't have the photoshop skills to do it.
openSpoilers Off pages spoiling other works
What if there are spoilers for another work on a Spoilers Off page? Example:
- Shout-Out: Bob makes a reference to Alice's death in That Other Series when <context>.
openSafe Word real life examples
Safe Word is listed on No Real Life Examples, Please!, but allows non sexual real life examples.... and i found out there were more of those than I expected. Isn't this kind of weird? It allows real life examples (sorta) but is listed as NRLEP.
open Readding of JW content Web Original
bobg has been readding heartwarming examples related to Justin Charmichael/ JewWario to pages, including Heartwarming.Farewell Fami Kamen Rider and Heartwarming.Channel Awesome. This is in addition to the recently discussion Gushing re-additions. These seem to edge around troping RL people, even without the problem of the RL person being a sexual abuser/groomer. What's the appropriate course of action here?
openShould this be considered Word Cruft?
The word ‘check’. Specifically, I often see examples that act as though they are checking items off a list (X requirement? Check. Y requirement? Check. Z requirement? Check plus.), which ruins the readability of the example. Should this be added to the list of Word Cruft?
open Why there's no pague on Kodomo No Jinkan? Anime
I'm not an idiot, I understand it's a very controversial manga but still... I first started reading it as a part of my quest to witness the most banned content on this world, but what I discovered the was one of the most unapologetic, engrossing stories I've ever read which not only do I believe is probably my favorite Manga now but it helped me cope with my own abuse story as a kid. In my case, it was very ambiguous, there was no violence and my abuser was not that much older than myself, I had always been told that the pain of abuse was instantaneous so as a kid I thought that if it didn't hurt instantly it wasn't abuse. But the pain started to creep up as the years went by and such ambiguousness was compounded with a lot of doubts no one wanted to answer or aknowledge could be asked since it was tabu to question the white and black morality of the situation and just doing it surely meant you were an abuser. But Kodomo No Jinkan asked those questions and slowly I felt I wasn't so alone, in my quest for edgy shit I thought I had become insensitive, but the uncomfortable actions combined with actually caring for the characters made me so uncomfortable I couldn't believe it. Near the end there's an abuse scene that made me angry and disgusted (that was the intention) to levels I didn't thought I was capable of feeling anymore. And the ending is quite controversial for not being ideal to many moral standard (maybe stretching them a bit), but that's kinda the point, when you have been broken you happiest ending will still be a shattered one for the eyes of most people but is one you should strive for instead of giving up because the perfect normal people's ending is unreachable. Also there's a very sick character with PTSD which at the end decides to start dealing with it after avoiding it for so long, it hurt deep inside in a very needed way. I know in appearance it looks bad and most people want it to "tell don't show" but I think of it as medicine, not for your normal headache as it is chemo extreme so I guess is fine if people can't take it, but to be hated after doing so much good it makes me feel alone. So I wanted to ask if we can include it back please, I think it can do a lot of good with people still stuck in between traumas they can't just tell anybody about.
openNo Title
Banana Pancakes made a large edit full of problems (trope slashing and misuse of the invoked tag, at the least) to Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and I'm currently on mobile and unable to go through and compile all the problems into one notification.
open Who said this quote?
I'm trying to remember who quote something like this "Of all the animals in this world, the one's who closest resemble demons are humans." I can't recall the media or the face of who said it, but I'm certain it was a The Stoic / The Spock kind of person.
Edited by Tybirius_RopenZero Context Examples Clarification
A troper named Clovercarmen5 recently made a puzzling ATT post about indexing and comments not being responding, and that query seemed to peter out. However, I took a look at the tropers edits after the other participant of the query (War Jay) noticed that the page that they primarily work on was riddled with formatting errors and ZC Es.
I've send the troper a notifier about ZC Es, but here's my question. Adding ZC Es that are commented out...is just as bad, right? Because the characters page the troper is editing is riddled with them, and as someone who doesn't know the show in question, I don't know how to add sufficient context to them.
So...what would the proper step be going forward?
Edited by Arctimonresolved BigNameFan
The trope's description says it refers to a person who, while not officially associated with the company that produces a given work, is still widely known in the fan community, and possibly by the producers. themselves, and it's not to be confused with a Big Name / Important Person who turns out to be a Fan. However, most of the examples seem to refer to the incorrect meaning. I'm curious if the accurate definition is widespread enough to be troped.
openVandalism?
Pixel Knight has deleted every entry for Opinion Myopia with the edit reason "Nearly all the examples on this page were just Complaining About People Not Liking The Show, but I didn't have the time to check, edit, and polish each example by hand. Ergo, I decided to burn it all down and let the Wiki Gnomes sort the rest out." Isn't this vandalism?
openCommented Out Note
Having just rewatched the series, I'm giving the House of Anubis pages a well-deserved scrubbing. However, on the page there's a commented out note that reads:
"The House of Anubis fanbase is infamous for its speculation of future events of the show and future seasons. Information therefore can be very rumor-based and disinformation/speculation-driven, with many rumors about the show and who will leave/return coming from fake twitter accounts and vandalism of the series entry on The Other Wiki. Thus, those who would like to contribute something to this trope page should be wary of where they get their information from."
This is kind of pointless to have now. The show has been finished for years, and though I can vouch for the fact that the fandom was very speculative, the fandom has also died down with the show. (That's not to say people aren't still fans, but nobody's out there speculating about future events anymore, because...well...there's nothing new coming.) Any information that turned out to be pure speculation will just be removed as I clean up, so can I just delete that note now? It really serves no purpose anymore.
Edited by WarJay77openWhere to place games on trope pages separated by genre? Videogame
I noticed that on videogame trope pages, games are often sorted by genre. On these pages, where do you put a game that fits multiple genre? The reason I'm asking is I recently made a new work page for a hunting game that I need to cross-wick, and on some of these pages I don't know whether to put it under Sports, Simulation, or First-Person-Shooter.
Edited by Everdreamopen Gushing that's Harsher in Hindsight
On Gush.New Media, there's an entry that gushes about all the contributors on Channel Awesome, obviously made years before the #ChangeTheChannel movement. I don't have a problem with most of this, except there's a sentence about Justin that's wince-inducing in hindsight considering recent revelations about him. I'm wondering if I can have permission to remove it, as while it is a part of the Sugar Wiki, it can definitely be taken the wrong way. Here's the entry with the parts I want to edit out in bold.
open Question about the show "A Haunting" Live Action TV
Okay I'm going crazy over this, I can't find an episode of the tv series "A Haunting" I'm looking for. It is one where teens chant "eko eko azarak". Can anyone help me out?
My crossovers Code Saw and Code Wings 3.0 need some help getting tropes. I've been trying to get them myself (and would edit the page Needs Wiki Magic Love myself if it weren't locked), but I can't do it on my own. Do you all think you can help me?
Please and thank you. It would help a lot.
(I would put it under Fan Works, but you don't have a category for that, unfortunately.)
Edited by Teenlyokofan7777