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This previous query
about them hasn't been answered either.
You know, I'd be much more inclined to be on his side if he didn't completely and 100% whitewash the guy.
For reference, here is the previous ATT query on removing a sentence gushing about Jew Wario.
Note that I had P Med him yesterday telling him not to do this and to take it to discussion if he wanted to readd stuff and not edit war (the Kamen Rider example is a straight re-add, the Channel Awesome example is new content). I don't know if the PM was before or after he readded it.
Edited by Larkmarn Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Ew... this is the entry in Heartwarming.Channel Awesome.
- Jewwario did many heartwarming things; he constantly went out of his way to cheer people up and help them with their depression. He even talked people out of suicide, with one such example here. He was incredibly kind to his fans, and even made a video specifically to help people going through depression titled "You're not stupid", seen here. On the same subject, Doug Walker still made a tribute video for him after his suicide, despite secretly knowing of his crimes at the time while most Channel Awesome contributors did not.
The part that I bold for highlight come off really wrong. It come off as "I known he's sexual predator and I don't care" instead of "I known he's sexual predator but I still like him" (still wrong, but I can see the point). Plus, they can't even make proper pothole and just link to Main.
Edited by Kuruni
Yeah that being the only mention of the negative and actually considering "covering up predatory behavior" as making it more heartwarming is... honestly unnerving.
And yeah, he doesn't seem to get namespaces.
bobg is suspended for, at best, thoughtless edits that violate ROCEJ. Remove the edits.
^ Understood, will do. Thanks for the prompt response.
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
The rules, at their core, come down to "don't be a dick." Some tropers would be wise to remember that.
Noting that I do believe the "cartridge" entry from the Kamen Rider page can likely be restored with more context (both in terms of being close to a ZCE and context to the greater scheme of things).
I don't know the work so I can't add it, but it seems like it is a heartwarming moment from a work and doesn't necessarily have to lionize a predator.
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Just to throw my hat in? We should never have an entry lionizing a sexual predator, not as heartwarming or otherwise. It’s like saying “well, Jimmy Saville making these kids happy is heartwarming, despite molesting a bunch of others!”
Doesn’t belong. At all. And this is part of a pattern with this user that has grown steadily disturbing
^ The question becomes where we draw the line. I'm perfectly fine doing this case-by-case instead of making some set of arbitrary criteria for agenda-based tropers to exploit.
I think if there’s a confirmed sexual predator and the entry talks about his grooming behavior in the positive with a creepy “wel, aside from that...” that’s pretty much a straight “no.” As you said, probably case by case
Okay, I sympathized with their point a little bit in the last ATT discussion, where they'd taken issue with the fact that everyone wanted to just remember Justin for the bad he did, and gloss over anything he did that was good. (I didn't agree with them, mind- I just understood what they were getting at.)
But...this is crossing a line into creepyville. If they don't show up to discuss their ban, we need to keep an eye on these pages; this smelling like wonkage.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
I do not condone the whitewashing of sexual predators or other violent offenders at all. I mean, just because Ted Bundy worked at a suicide hotline doesn't mean that he was any less of a violent criminal.
Society cannot progress unless all predators are seen as heinous, regardless of gender, past good deeds, or their past tribulations.
Edited by SkyCat32 Feels good, don't it?
I would have been fine with keeping the JewWario mention on Gush.New Media since Gush/ pages are meant for personal accounts and it was written before the allegations came out, but the Heartwarming/ examples are definitely not OK.
Keet cleanup
Personally, I'm glad it got cut.
Feels good, don't it?
The troper in question has been bounced after further review into their account. Closing this query.
bobg has been readding heartwarming examples related to Justin Charmichael/ JewWario to pages, including Heartwarming.Farewell Fami Kamen Rider and Heartwarming.Channel Awesome. This is in addition to the recently discussion Gushing re-additions. These seem to edge around troping RL people, even without the problem of the RL person being a sexual abuser/groomer. What's the appropriate course of action here?