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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#8626: Dec 6th 2020 at 2:07:05 PM

Minorica:

"You'll probably feel uncomfortable when a number of demons the heroines fight turn out to once have been alternate selves before being slain and corrupted into mindless, evil demons."

I removed "Although some players and the heroines don't care about it," because, well, of course not every player is going to care.

I removed "Even Eliza says this in her SR Magica 2019 dress" because we don't need to know what dress she's wearing. This isn't about clothes, after all. You can still include her quote, though.

I'd cut away the entire "The Sabbath Battles may imply this trope" paragraph. "May imply" is too speculative.

I'd also cut away the "Due to their mentor mascot's ability" example, since that one is about alternate universe heroines, who are still human.

"Since Nymphs only get up to some mischief and don't kill people, the heroines don't seem to mind killing them. Studio MGCM is aware of this and manages to avert using Nymphs as enemies in later limited-time events, in order to prevent forming the perspective that nymphs are expendable."

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#8627: Dec 6th 2020 at 2:15:41 PM

In "Meggy's Part-Time Job" she kicks out Demon Hunter Shroomy. Yes, THAT Demon Hunter Shroomy. Later, she also successfully beas him by using Jub Jub as a tennis ball.

"During "Meggy's Part-Time Job" Demon Hunter Shroomy tries to catch Jub Jub and he always with a gun. At the end of video Demon Hunter Shroomy did it... To show Jub Jub how a gun works. Later, Jub Jub (who formerly speak only his name) calls Meggy by her name. They even hug."

You'll have to explain what "and he always with a gun" means. I don't quite get it.

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#8628: Dec 6th 2020 at 2:47:28 PM

@Michael Katsuro: There you go. I fixed it up.

Edited by jahman on Dec 6th 2020 at 2:48:12 AM

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#8629: Dec 6th 2020 at 3:34:45 PM

Here's how I'd change it: "Upon being revived, Itachi is horrified upon learning from Naruto that Sasuke has become hell-bent on revenge against the Leaf village, to the point of allying with Akatsuki due to Itachi's own well-meant yet misguided actions towards Sasuke. Itachi admits to Naruto, Kabuto, and most importantly Sasuke, how trying to handle everything himself and manipulating Sasuke through his hatred was a terrible mistake."

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#8630: Dec 6th 2020 at 4:01:05 PM

Naruto - Hidden Cloud Village:

Omoi

This is a fix.

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#8631: Dec 6th 2020 at 4:20:56 PM

Naruto - Hidden Cloud Village:

General

  • Karma Houdini Warranty: Fate finally collects the bill for the Cloud village's rather unscrupulous and unapologetic pursuit of power in the past that played a part in the Fourth Great Shinobi War that led to the Ten-Tails' being reformed, in an unfortunate way. The Cloud Village ends up suffering significant damage as a result of the Ten-Tails' Tailed Beast Ball during the crisis.

Edited by jahman on Dec 7th 2020 at 9:02:03 AM

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#8632: Dec 6th 2020 at 6:43:18 PM

Thanks, Michael Katsuro.

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#8633: Dec 6th 2020 at 7:10:08 PM

I've been waiting for feedback on my stuff since Saturday morning. I understand that it will take longer to get a reply in this busy time of year, and I'm fine with waiting a little longer but I currently have about 1,000 words worth of backlog and my next post or two will probably have to be unusually long.

Edited by Melinda on Dec 6th 2020 at 7:10:29 AM

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#8634: Dec 7th 2020 at 7:43:13 AM

Since I have so much stuff in my backlog would it be acceptable to make one post for Arivne to review and one for Michael Katsuro separately but around the same time frame?

Edited by Melinda on Dec 7th 2020 at 8:11:28 AM

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#8635: Dec 7th 2020 at 8:10:31 AM

For MGCM:

  • Anti-Frustration Features: The later update allows players to skip replaying some stages as much as they can. There are two conditions to use the "skip stage" button, however:
    • The stages have to have been completed once before.
    • The skip stage system uses the skip meter gauge and staminas. The skip meter gauge depletes depending on both how many times the stage replays and the completion time on a certain stage. The meter gauge can be restored in minutes.
For Overarching Villain:
  • MGCM: There's Mao, a Cat Girl demon who seems to be nice in the New Year 2020 event turns out to be very malicious and becomes a recurring villain for some limited-time events in 2020. In the extra episode of the Christmas 2020 event "It's a Wonderful Reincarnation!", she gets Killed Off for Real by superior demon sisters for failing them.

Edited by Minorica on Dec 7th 2020 at 9:21:08 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#8636: Dec 7th 2020 at 9:52:37 AM

From page 345 @Melinda

"Trish and her friends are boys and partying"

^ I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Did you mean to say "Trish and her friends are into boys and partying"?

...and he looks flustered and intent on getting away rather than pleased and in control.

After Jack became the new God, <- comma did he bring any of the angels besides Castiel back from the Empty? And what is Heaven like after he knocked down the walls and let people interact with each other? <- question mark

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#8637: Dec 7th 2020 at 10:00:31 AM

From page 345 @Mikey Spletzer

Later, she also successfully beat him by using JubJub as a tennis ball.

  • During "Meggy's Part-Time Job", <- comma Demon Hunter Shroomy tries to catch JubJub and he always with a gun. At the end of the video, <- comma Demon Hunter Shroomy did it... To show JubJub <- no comma how the gun works.
    • Later, JubJub (who formerly speaks only his name) is called that name by Meggy. They even hug.

^^ He always what with a gun? x2

^^ Changed verbs from past to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.

^ It is a violation of Example Indentation to have only one example at the 2nd level of indentation (2 asterisks) or below. The example should be changed like this:

  • "Meggy's Part-Time Job"
    • Demon Hunter Shroomy tries to catch JubJub and he always (???) with a gun. At the end of the video, <- comma Demon Hunter Shroomy did it... To show JubJub <- no comma how the gun works.
    • Later, JubJub (who formerly speaks only his name) is called that name by Meggy. They even hug.

Please fix any mistakes these examples have, if any.

Edited by Arivne on Dec 7th 2020 at 10:03:52 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#8638: Dec 7th 2020 at 10:06:53 AM

From page 345 @benzboagr

After making a mistake that gets a hostage killed...

He is able to destroy all of Earth's defences and can perfectly counter any of Scrooge's plans, but against Glomgold's plans, due to him seeing it as a clever distraction, <- comma Lunaris's invasion falls apart almost instantly.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#8639: Dec 7th 2020 at 10:13:14 AM

From page 345 @miraculous

The generals of the powerful Vampire creator God are called the "Angels of death" and gain their position by defeating all competing vampires in their region. There are seven "Angels of death" in total, <- comma with each controlling a portion of South Korea and fending off any challengers to their spot.

The Starter Villain Byeongsu starts off as a lazy and dickish bully but nothing worse then that, <- comma but upon becoming a vampire he's become one of their most psychotic, <- comma with even his sires finding him extreme.

The scourge of vampires that has infested Korea...

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#8640: Dec 7th 2020 at 10:17:39 AM

[up] x 9 @jahman

In an unfortunate way, Fate finally collects the bill for the Cloud village's rather unscrupulous and unapologetic pursuit of power in the past that played a part in the Fourth Great Shinobi War that led to the Ten-Tails' being reformed.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#8641: Dec 7th 2020 at 10:21:38 AM

[up] x 5 Minorica

  • The later update allows players to skip replaying some stages as much as they can. There are two conditions to use the "skip stage" button, however:
    • The certain stages have to have been completed once before.
    • The skip stage system uses the skip meter gauge and staminas. The skip meter gauge depletes depending on both how many times the stage replays and...

There's Mao, a Cat Girl demon who seems to be nice in the New Year 2020 event <- no comma but turns out to be very malicious and becomes a recurring villain for some events in 2020...

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#8642: Dec 7th 2020 at 10:41:36 AM

Thanks Arvine

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#8643: Dec 7th 2020 at 11:08:33 AM

Thanks for the reply on my stuff, Arivne. Yes, I was trying to say Trish and her friends were into boys and partying. I apologize for that gaffe. As I said above, this post is a little longer than past ones (although I've tried to stick to trope examples only a sentence or two long and kept the character folders pretty minimalist) due to my backlog. I apologize for that, and recognize it might mean a slower reply, but there's some stuff it's hard to just let sit on your computer for too many days in a row. Still on hold are folders for four more Lethal Weapon characters, a Harsher in Hindsight example for Lethal Weapon 2, some trivia for the Horror movie Abominable, A Home Alone Nightmare Fuel example I'm honestly surprised no one added before and of course a lot of Alpha and Omega tropes (including new tropes I hope to add to the book's main page rather than just copy and paste from).

@ Abominable The characters in the monster movie ''Abominable (not to the confused with the DreamWorks Animation film of the same name).

    Deputy Jackson 
Played by: Chad Smith

@ Better Call Saul

Gonzo being Tuco's brother-in-law will be referred to again.
Joaquin Salamanca will be seen or mentioned in the final season.

@ Dortmunder Eat the Evidence

  • During a police raid in Why Me?, Tiny eats several pounds of paper recording the alibis (mostly for other crimes) of crooks who he'd questioned to find out who stole the Byzantine Fire Ruby and brought down a police "blitz" on the underworld.

@ The Hardy Boys

  • While it's also a bit sad, Kit's elimination from the reality show in Deprivation House has Veronica replay a tape of her ranting about how she can't live without coffee.

@ Total Drama

  • Courtney's ultimatum to Duncan: he can stay awake long enough to give his teammates some useful dodgeball tips, or he can get voted off when they lose.
  • Tyler volunteering to be stretched on the rack and showing off some Abnormal Limb Rotation Range.
  • Harold's Badass Boast about being Cody's champion in the surfing race during I'm Winning This.
    Harold: One last chance to prove my might. That's what keeps me up at night! Why else would I volunteer, for something death-defyin'? Yeah, yeah! I'm winning this deal.

@ Lethal Weapon

     Trish Murtaugh 
Played by: Darlene Love
  • Happily Married: Trish and Roger have a caring, mutually supportive marriage.

     Rianne Murtaugh 
Played by: Traci Wolfe
  • Damsel in Distress: In the first movie, she's kidnapped and held hostage by Shadow Company.

    Nick Murtaugh 
Played by: Damon Hines
  • Ascended Extra: Nick is a Bit Character in the first two movies but has a more prominent role in the third one when Roger kills a hoodlum friend of Nick's in self-defense.

     Detective Tim Cavanaugh 
Played by: Dean Norris
  • Bald Of Awesome: Cavanaugh is a balding detective who takes part in the car chase/gunfight in the opening scene, and the raid on Rudd's stilt house.
  • Dropped a Bridge on Him: After being a significant presence for the first 3/4ths of the movie, Cavanaugh is blown up by a booby-trapped microwave.

Edited by Melinda on Dec 8th 2020 at 7:05:29 AM

jahman Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#8644: Dec 7th 2020 at 1:24:03 PM

Characters/Psychonauts:

Razputin "Raz" Aquato

  • Taught by Experience: Raz is the flippant, somewhat snarky go-getter he usually is throughout most of the Milkman Conspiracy, the mental level of Boyd the Asylum guard, often getting impatient with or cracking jokes at his expense or the figures in his mind and got messy results in the process. This experience teaches Raz a lesson in exercising maturity and care when you've got the ability to both figuratively and literally go directly inside people's heads. After getting inside the Asylum and meeting the patients, by contrast, he's inviting, patient, and almost tender when talking to Gloria, Fred, and Edgar as well as most of the occupants of their respective minds (which results in him developing a pretty pleasing-to-watch dynamic with all of them).

benzboagr Since: Aug, 2019
#8645: Dec 7th 2020 at 1:37:09 PM

Madonna

Melinda Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: Puppy love
#8646: Dec 7th 2020 at 1:50:13 PM

In relation to my last approved edit I made a mistake and made a page for From a Certain Point of View: The Empire Strikes Back, which I think is incorrectly formatted. I'm used to being able to lowercase the mmv because a blue link corrects that automatically, but apparently the same isn't true for a red link, and I clicked on the red link on the page directly it made a Ymmv page and not a YMMV page. Does that make a difference? I have a bad feeling that it does, and another bad feeling about how the mods are going to take that given my current status, so I would like to ask for advice.

Edited by Melinda on Dec 7th 2020 at 1:50:51 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#8647: Dec 7th 2020 at 1:57:12 PM

[up][up]Slashed tropes arent allowed.

Anyway.

  • Ghost Teller: Runia is an ambitious girl who dreams of stardom. Taking advantage of a fight that occurs between friends Taejun and Shinhoo which leaves Taejun dead and Shinhoo gravely injured, Runia helps cover for Shinhoo by putting the blame on Taejun completely. Figuring she can use this to become famous, Runia leaks footage of Taejun and Shinhoo fighting to the press and gets them interested in her, with her playing the part of charismatic victim to lure in an audience to allow her dreams of fame to come to true. Runia even thanks her friend Shinhoo as he's dying in the hospital for giving her an opportunity and promises to keep his secrets to the end.

  • The Librarians 2014: Dulaque is the charismatic and devious leader of the Serpent Brotherhood and is in truth Lancelot du lac having become bitter and twisted after the fall of Camelot. Dulaque desires to return the world to the age of magic and kings, believing it to be what humanity needs to prosper and will stop at nothing to make it happen. Dulaque over the series has a long list of ingenious acts such as manipulating Cassandra into getting him into the Library and uses Excalibur to return magic to the world, tricks and captures Santa Claus and uses his diplomatic charm in order to try and have the various magical factions disband the Library. Finally in his greatest move, Dulaque leaks information and has The Librarians create a portal to the loom of fate to allow him to rewrite history and return Camelot to existence. A genius plotter who always has a new plan and takes his defeats in stride, Dulaque is the most dangerous enemy faced by The Library.

Edited by miraculous on Dec 7th 2020 at 5:07:47 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Strafe2409 Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#8648: Dec 7th 2020 at 2:28:45 PM

For Honkai Impact 3rd's other playable characters section.

  • Future Badass: In Post-Honkai Odysseey, Carole being curious about other squad leaders within Schiksal under Theresa's leadership, with Mei describe them as "special" and "unique", implying they are composed with Mei's friends and former rivals during her youth. If the second dialogue choice is chosen ("What's the leader of Squad 2 like?"), Mei referring to the captain of Squad 2 as "dangerous in some way, but can also be adorable once you get to know her", implying that Seele is now appointed as the leader of Squad 2 somewhere in the future.

Kiacopia Since: Mar, 2020 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
#8649: Dec 7th 2020 at 8:14:26 PM

I really feel embarrassed about that last edit Larkmarn deleted. Sometimes I wish I thought before typing what I said at the time. I'm sorry...

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#8650: Dec 7th 2020 at 8:21:06 PM

...Okay, Kiacopia, but this is a Help With English thread, not an apology thread. You're supposed to ask for help with English here. No offense, but this is at least the third time you've posted here about different stuff.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Dec 7th 2020 at 5:26:02 PM


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