Cleaning Up Needless References To Reviewers

I think you can cut everything from the reviewer reference onwards.

Bringing up the following example from Transformers: ★Headmasters:

• So Bad, It Was Better: As one article suggested, for all its faults, the Omni dub didn't change that much; Headmasters was always a pretty dumb show. When it was released with better subs on DVD, the general fandom reaction was a resounding "eh."

Cut that whole bit. It's already used to snark and bash the Omni dub.

Edited by DongwaChan on Apr 19th 2022 at 9:20:52 AM

Bringing up the following examples from For Better or for Worse:

• Madonna-Whore Complex: The Comics Curmudgeon makes the (fairly convincing) argument that this is Thérèse's only purpose in the comic, because someone has to be the Whore if Elizabeth is going to be the Madonna.
  Josh: All this aside, though, this morning I had a brainstorm about why the Liz-Anthony pairing is so perfect...If Liz weds Anthony, she’ll get to experience the soul-completing joy of being a mommy without having to have icky sex.

• Totally Radical: Johnston, in an attempt to avoid dating the strip too badly (and probably also to get around syndicate censorship), tries to create her own teenage slang for stuff. Some of these are so ridiculous-seeming that one, the insult "foob", became synonymous with the strip, hence the Fan Nickname. One website mocking the strip still sells T-shirts with the phrase "Roadside", an attempt by Johnston to create her own slang for frisky teens.

• Wish-Fulfillment: Many have pointed out that the picture-perfect wedding between Elizabeth and Anthony followed suspiciously closely on Johnston's real-life divorce. Others have suspected that she may not have been pleased with how her real children, upon whom Michael and Liz are based, lived their own lives. In a less depressing vein, April was born because Johnson had wanted (but not had) a third child. Lynn knew it wasn't really practical in real life and said in the Animated Adaptation that she did the next best thing.

Cut the reviewer mentions and clean up the entries to be less complainy.

Edited by DongwaChan on Apr 21st 2022 at 10:02:00 AM

Bringing up the following examples from I Was a Teenage Werewolf:

• The Scrappy: Vic, the irritating little gnome responsible for the awful "Eenie Meenie Miny Moe" song. Tony beating the stuffing out of him was, to quote Servo: "The exact moment Michael Landon became beloved by America."

• Special Effects Failure: Tony the Werewolf.
  Tom Servo: "They just glued crepe-hair to his football helmet!"

Cut the MST3K references and the words "irritating" and "awful" in the first entry, delete the second entry as it's a ZCE.

Edited by DongwaChan on Apr 22nd 2022 at 1:39:35 PM

Bringing up the following example from The Adventures of Batman & Robin E3 "Trial":

• Artistic License – Law: Described in one LegalEagle review shown here. Combined with Hollywood Law. While much of the story's action is just a sham "trial" put on by the inmates of an insane asylum/prison, the opening trial in particular is pretty jumbled.

Cut the link to the review and shorten it to just "While much of the story's action is just a sham "trial" put on by the inmates of an insane asylum/prison, the opening trial in particular is pretty jumbled."

Which is still too low on content and should be commented out. Maybe those who know the video can add context from it?

Frankly I don't even think linking to the video would be a bad idea as it is specifically focused on the Artistic License – Law aspect of the movie.

Okay, sounds good, we'll port some context over from the video.

Bringing up the following example from The Rescuers Down Under:

• Contested Sequel: Opinions are split on which of the two movies is superior: although the first is the most well-known, Down Under seems to have rapidly gathered a lot of fans after Doug Walker put it on a list of Underrated Nostalgic Classics with movies such as The Rocketeer, The Iron Giant, The Secret of NIMH and The Prince of Egypt. Likewise The Nostalgia Chick didn't include it on her list of bad Disney sequels, pointing out in the followup Least Awful Disney Sequels that it doesn't even belong there as it's not awful at all. On the other hand, and popularity aside, fans of the first movie (for its charm, quiet pace, cute and moving characters) will tell you that Down Under might be a good adventure flick, but that in their opinion it's not what The Rescuers should be about.

Here's a suggested edit:

• Contested Sequel: Opinions are split on which of the two movies is superior: although the first is the most well-known, Down Under has it's fans, mainly because it has a different tone and atmosphere from the original film. However, there are some fans of the first movie (for its charm, quiet pace, cute and moving characters) who will tell you that Down Under might be a good adventure flick, but that in their opinion it's not what The Rescuers should be about.

(reposting from General Quotes thread since I didn't get a response there) The quote on Film.Fallen Angels is just Roger Ebert praising the film (rather than an actual quote from the work) and doesn't tell us much (other than it's arthouse). Should it be removed?

Edited by delayedboom on Apr 23rd 2022 at 2:06:25 AM

Yes.

The page quote for Passions is just a reviewer quote snarking about how "weird" the show is. Should I cut it or go to a quote thread for a replacement?

Edited by DongwaChan on Apr 23rd 2022 at 11:01:38 AM

Bringing up the following example from Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland:

• Cross-Cultural Kerfluffle: Having been produced in Japan, the filmmakers clearly were clueless that the character Flip looking just like a black-faced minstrel (even though faithful to Winsor McCay's original work) would be extremely problematic for modern international audiences. Siskel & Ebert even pointed this out in their review, as did The Nostalgia Critic who refers to him as "the Teenage Mutant Ninja Minstrel Show". They at least had the foresight not to include Imp, a much more blatant racial caricature from the comic, while Flip could at least be explained away as a clown or humanoid frog with his green skin.

Cut the bit mentioning reviewers.

Bringing up the following example from Captain Electron:

• Names to Run Away from Really Fast: Dr. Manfred Zongor. As pointed out by Linkara, it's kind of inevitable someone with that name would turn to super-villainy.

Not an example, but could be reworked as an A Villain Named "Z__rg" entry.

This is on the page for Creator.Elizabeth Hartman:

She committed suicide in 1987 by leaping from the window of her fifth floor apartment. Because of the circumstances of this, Doug Walker's Demo Reel was a tribute to her, with Elissa Hoffman taking on the role as aging actress who committed suicide because the roles dried up, and "Blue Patches" being her Oscar nominated movie.

Is the part about Demo Reel necessary?

I don't believe it is, as it isn't particularly relevant to the creator. It can probably go.

Bringing up the following examples from Only Six Faces:

• In his list of 15 Things That Are Wrong With Identity Crisis, Linkara briefly mentions that Michael Turner could only draw two faces: male and female.

• Surprise! Rob Liefeld goes here. Once, a "top 40 worst Rob Liefeld drawings" list showcased a scan of two data profiles on two different characters; the faces were identical, and the blonde hairstyles nearly so. The list asked readers, for bonus points, to guess which of the two was supposed to be Hispanic.

• Arthur's Quest: Battle for the Kingdom, at least according to the Something Awful review: "You start out in....some town, somewhere. But this is a special clone town, one that's populated by about 12 people with about 3 or 4 unique looks. You'd think they would have at least bothered to make a few more models, or at least position the people so that identical twins aren't standing right next to each other."

• It was recently discovered by reverse engineers and modders that The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild uses a more advanced version of Miis for generic humanoid NPC characters (referred to as "UMii" in the game's files), likely done to streamline the process of creating multiple different NPC models to populate the game's towns. The modders that made this discovery have found ways to actually convert regular Miis into this format, though it does have limitations (not all hairstyles and facial features like moles are supported).

• It's been pointed out that most female and some male characters drawn by Nasuverse co-founder and main artist Takeuchi Takashi can be turned into each other just by changing their eye color and hair. To say nothing of his ever-growing army of "Saberfaces."
  • The resemblance of Ciel's new design from the remake of Tsukihime to Mash Kyrielight from Fate/Grand Order has also drawn some ribbing.

• Even more evident with the female characters. Justice League eventually broke out of this, with broad-shouldered Wonder Woman and realistically-built Amanda Waller, but earlier efforts had "Bruce Timm Generic Female #2" for almost every distaff character. This is parodied in Shortpacked!, when Batman studies video footage of a female criminal, before concluding that, since the hair isn't visible, she's impossible to identify.

Wow, that will require a lot of cleaning up to do. Some of the tropes listed become ZC Es without the reviewer reference, so that'll require porting.

This is on Full House:

• Seasonal Rot: For plenty of reasons. To name a few problems, there was the flaw of Loads And Loads Of Characters, heavy Flanderization of already relatively "safe" characters, and Michelle becoming the Creator's Pet. The moment where Jesse and Rebecca have kids of their own is a commonly considered this if it didn't suffer already. As The Nostalgia Critic described in his review of the show:
  "Rather than, I don't know, move out of the house, Jesse and Becky stay together and give birth to twin boys. Yeah, because one pair of annoying, bad-acting twins just wasn't enough."