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I had a possible idea for a trope, which would fall under Stock Parodies, would this work:

Speed" Bus Theft Parody (not a great name.. just an idea)

Speed, released in 1994 is a film that many people know the Signature Scene of the bus not being able to go below a certain speed without a bomb going off, and has been the subject of Parody for a long time.

Often, parodies of this nature will have an unshaven-looking man with a gun and a bus being driven and the man being agitated.

Overlaps with Western Terrorists.

Live Action TV

• Father Ted parodied this with the episode "Speed 3" featuring a milk float, although as a vehicle it's severely lacking in the speed department.
• Police, Camera, Action!, an Edutainment Show / Gearhead Show actually referenced this trope in the October 1995 episode "International" where a bus was stolen in Burbank, California in September 1993. The narration from Alastair Stewart said:
  Alastair Stewart: This time, though, Keanu Reeves was nowhere to be seen. They'd seen the film Speed at the cinema, but now it was being played out in their neighbourhood.

Western Animation

• Johnny Bravo had a brief Shout-Out to the film in the episode "The Aisle of Mixed-Up Toys", which came out three years after Film/Speed featuring a parody of the film that Johnny was watching as an afternoon movie.

Edited by Merseyuser1 on May 6th 2021 at 3:26:26 PM

The Muppet Show had a parody of Speed too, where their ratings couldn't drop below 50 or something. It could be a valid trope, whether it's a Stock Shout-Out or just a regular trope codified by Speed.

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Is "ranking attractiveness by number" a tropeworthy concept? I.E. "That girl's a ten and you're a two?" It's super common, and it often works as shorthand to show how shallow somebody is, or to show how attractive the characters are in-universe. It could also be extended to rankings that don't fit that format, as both South Park ("The List") and Big Mouth ("Rankings") have episodes where drama stems from a numbered list of the most attractive students.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 6th 2021 at 1:15:40 PM

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I'd say it's more of a Stock Shout-Out - one that occurs enough that it should work as a trope. (Perhaps something like "Speed Falls, Something Explodes" would be a better name?)

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On an unrelated note, I've been mulling over the idea of "Randomness Removal" as a gaming trope. All the examples I can think of off-hand fall into two categories:

1. A mechanic involving randomness being reworked in the next game to follow a set pattern. (For instance, take Olimar in Super Smash Bros.: the type of Pikmin he plucks is randomized in Brawl but was changed to a set order in the fourth game.)
2. A setting within a game that removes randomization. (Various pinball machines have a "Tournament" setting that changes random awards into static ones, for example.)

I know that soft-split tropes are generally frowned upon these days, so I wasn't sure if I should go with just one of these concepts.

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Hey, I asked about the feasibility of the Evil Depopulationist/Malthusianist as a trope, but only got one response. Anyone else wanna weigh in?

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Where would it fit best - Stock Shout-Out or Stock Parodies? I can see the arguments for both sides.

Also had this idea for a trope:

• UsefulNotes.Project Forking: Explain about software forking.

• Website Fork: Related to Web Original, but a Sub-Trope of Start My Own, and the most notable ones can be listed, as it said on Start My Own, we can't list every example.

I'm not sure either of those are viable, because both of them involve a concept that isn't inherently tropeworthy or creative.

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I'm admittedly not completely certain on this, but I feel like it might fit better as a Stock Parody because defining it as a Stock Shout-Out might lead to misuse as "any reference to Speed, no matter the context".

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Thinking about my Witch draft more...

Mother Nature, Father Science needs the dichotomy, right? It's on the Gender Dynamics Index...

It seems we don't have a trope for just women being connected to nature, without Father Science?

Mother Nature is a god trope.

Edited by Malady on May 9th 2021 at 5:53:43 AM

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Flowers of Femininity?

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Do we have a trope involving banning certain ethnicities (and occasionally, animals) from an establishment?

• The Hateful Eight: According to Marquis Warren, Minnie supposedly did not let dogs or Maxicans into her haberdashery, and had a sign to that effect. Warren claims she took down the sign when she started letting dogs in.

Rawr.

- Close but no? That's Flowers and specifically flowers as a symbol for femininity.

- "Avoid This Area" Effect sorta?

Only the Worthy May Pass and its Sister tropes as listed on page?

Edited by Malady on May 10th 2021 at 7:29:44 AM

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Is there already a trope covering an intentional counterpart to Unwitting Instigator of Doom? I asked about it in Trope Finder and it seemed like there isn't. Would that be something worth bringing to TLP?

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I'd say so.

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Maybe call the willing version "Intentional Instigator of Doom".

Rawr.

Possible new trope:

• Treehouse FM: I had this on TLP originally as a trope that's a reference to small-town radio stations or Local Angle radio, sort of like the ones in The Simpsons. The term "Treehouse FM" is a British pejorative found on social media used during Turn of the Millennium although not as common now due to syndication in the UK.

Funny enough, The Fairly OddParents! had an episode where Timmy literally hosted a radio station from his treehouse. Genius Bonus?

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I wasn't aware of that one, but yes, it would qualify, and be that too.

I wonder if there's merit to a "Crossover Friendshipping" trope, where fans like to think two characters from different things would be friends if they met.

Related to Common Crossover and Fanon Welding? Those could certainly be farmed for examples.

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Would a YMMV trope about people being interested in a work because it's incredibly dark work?

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We have True Art Is Angsty but I think it is IUEO.

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Had idea for a "Moon Is Feminine" trope, calling it Matronly Moon, thinking this is better for a second paragraph:

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Thinking of making a Sub-Trope of Duo Tropes first: The Male Female Duo Super-Trope of things such as Index of Romantic Couples, and Half-Identical Twins.

If it exists, it's not listed on Duo Tropes...

Edited by Malady on May 10th 2021 at 6:39:42 AM

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I agree that "Moon Is Feminine" is a trope. That reminds me that I had an idea for a "Romantic Moonlight" trope, about the moon being used to set a romantic atmosphere. "Romantic Starlight" is a thing too, what with Stargazing Scene... "Romantic Night Scene"?

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Excusing Yourself To Flip Out: someone calmly excuses themselves, flips out once out of sight, then calmly reenters. The offscreen sounds of them flipping out make for a humorous contrast with their onscreen calmness. I have one webcomic example, but I feel like I've seen it in a couple other places, too. Maybe in SpongeBob SquarePants?

"Moon is Feminine" is also related to Night and Day Duo. In a lot of mythologies, the Night character is female. I was surprised to find out that it wasn't actually universal- it's definitely common.

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one thing i think is worth pointing out is that depending on where you live, you might have different associations with the moon being feminine or masculine, and same with the sun. oftentimes it's the moon being feminine and the sun being masculine, but in german it's the opposite: sun (die Sonne) is feminine, while moon (der Monde) is masculine. so for example in Mario Party 6, which had a male sun named Brighton and a female moon named Twila, in german they were renamed to Sonnja and Raimond with their genders swapped. there's various other cases in other cultures as well, such as The Man in the Moon (almost always masculine) in western culture, or amaterasu, the sun goddess in japanese mythology. in other words it's not a universal cultural thing to see the moon as feminine, though it is still common. i'm not sure how that could tie in with a prospective "feminine moon" trope, but i wanted to point it out regardless

right, i assume the concept of a "blood moon" is partially related to that

Edited by NoUsername on May 10th 2021 at 12:06:19 PM

I know that part of the association with the moon and femininity is the concept of "cycles". Moons have phases, and women have menstrual cycles. The fact that menstrual cycles happen to also be monthly, just like lunar cycles are, helps with that association.

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