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Per Ask The Tropers, this thread will be used to reduce the number of old, poorly written drafts on the Trope Launch Pad. We don't want to discuss on the drafts themselves because that will bump them and mix them with active proposals.

Sandbox for the project: Trope Launch Pad Discard Project
Sandbox for discarded drafts but viable ideas: Trope Idea Salvage Yard

The first sandbox page above contains drafts proposed in the thread that are still pending and drafts that we've decided to leave alone, either with no action or a bump.
The second sandbox page is for awful drafts but viable ideas. According to moderators, badly written but interesting/tropeworthy drafts should remain on the TLP. Rather than allow low-effort drafts to clog TLP, though, the salvage yard was opened to keep just the ideas behind them, in one place.

On this thread, we will mention which drafts we think are unworkable, add enough bombs, and discard (nuke) them. Discarding requires at least 5 bombs. Among the features of "unworkable" drafts:

  • There have been no edits for a very long time, or at all
  • The draft is low-effort, containing atrocious spelling and grammar and/or little to no examples, e.g. NEVER saw THAT coming (!), Nut-Chuks
  • The draft was seemingly created so the sponsor could complain
  • The topic is People Sit on Chairs, Too Rare to Trope, a search query created by mistake, etc. and therefore not tropeworthy
  • The topic is already sufficiently covered by one or more tropes or is a duplicate of a better-written TLP draft
  • The draft is problematic in other ways, such being closely tied to a page that has been historically problematic, e.g. Fetish Fuel, Complete Monster
  • There's no discussion currently occurring in the comments to improve the proposal

If we decide to discard a draft after discussion via this thread, whoever does so must provide the discard reason in the comment section of the draft, for transparency's sake. Those looking at the discards section won't think it was nuked for no reason.

Also, check out the sister project, Trope Adoption Drive, where good drafts put Up for Grabs or abandoned can be grabbed, given a bit more improvement, and launched.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 24th 2022 at 12:02:43 PM

ElBuenCuate Since: Oct, 2010
#1351: Mar 26th 2020 at 12:21:11 PM

So, I just want to bring some more drafts here.

Edited by ElBuenCuate on Mar 27th 2020 at 10:59:27 AM

Serac she/her Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#1352: Mar 26th 2020 at 1:28:48 PM

I don't think that Arbitrary Accessory Limit is too rare to trope. None of the examples have any context, sure, but I could see it broadened a bit like the comments suggest into being a trope about the equipment slots that your character has in action RPGs like Path of Exile.

ElBuenCuate Since: Oct, 2010
#1353: Mar 26th 2020 at 2:23:34 PM

[up]Well, I do see it as viable if it's expanded. Is just that, as written, is too rare to trope, since it only focuses on rings.


EDIT: Also, I just noticed that there are two drafts for Signature Role. One actually having active discussion.

Active One Abandoned One

Edited by ElBuenCuate on Mar 26th 2020 at 7:20:18 AM

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#1354: Mar 27th 2020 at 10:54:41 PM

Found some good Yard material:

  • New Canon Incorporation was made earlier this month but hasn't been touched since creation. It's definitely a thing; a fanfic I read a few months back actually had something like this.
  • Rebirth Makeover: from 2013 with a small bit of life in 2019, this is also a thing, but the draft is terrible save for one good example and no one ever took it during that period of reignited activity.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Mar 27th 2020 at 2:18:49 PM

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#1355: Mar 28th 2020 at 12:15:54 AM

Alright. -Cracks Knuckles-

I went through the rest of the Mothball list. To save us a lot of headache, I'm just bringing up the drafts that can absolutely be removed from the list, either for being nuke-worthy, for being worked on recently, or for belonging in the Salvage Yard more. Anything not mentioned is something we could probably launch easily or something that needs a lot of discussion.

Also, can we add a rule that drafts discussed here need to be abandoned and if those drafts get adopted and worked on, we stop talking about them here?

    Discard-Worthy 

    Recent activity 

    Yard-Bait 

Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 28th 2020 at 3:26:13 PM

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#1356: Mar 28th 2020 at 9:55:40 PM

Sheesh, War Jay, quit reading my mind. :P (Seriously, I started doing something akin to this last night, albeit not exact).

Anyway, I took the liberty of doing two things in the Sandbox:

1. I removed the drafts with recent activity for...well, recent activity, as well as the ones nuked thus far.

2. I combed through the Mothballs and set aside the theoretical "easy launches" (hats + decent ideas) in the Launchbox folder.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#1358: Mar 29th 2020 at 1:13:22 AM

I can name an example for Arbitrary Accessory Limit, and yes it involves rings. I think this is actually an extremely common trope, near omnipresent due to graphical requirements, game balance, The Law of Conservation of Detail, whatever. Rings are the easiest to notice, but in any game with equipment the player can choose, typically there's a limit on the number of pieces you can put on. Most games don't allow you to wear more than one hat.

Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1359: Mar 30th 2020 at 10:54:27 AM

I think I found a draft for the Salvage Yard, Better Guilty Than Incompetent. It Needs A Better Description and someone suggested starting over on a fresh draft to reset the hat and bomb count.

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#1360: Mar 31st 2020 at 7:56:03 PM

I want to talk about Boarding School Buddy. I still think it'd be better retooled into a trope about the first friend someone makes at any new school, often the Nice Guy that first starts to befriend them as they're adjusting, often after everyone else was mean to them to serve as a contrast.

I'm bringing it here because IDK if it's worth starting a new draft or what; I have enough examples for it to not go into the Salvage Yard, but is Boarding School Buddy distinct enough as-is?

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Meppe Mysterious Stranger Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Mysterious Stranger
#1361: Apr 3rd 2020 at 2:29:37 AM

Earthshaking Confrontation is covered by Bad Vibrations.

Extension All is an abandoned draft with only a few examples. Might be yard material.

Mystic Eye Of Depth Perception is an abandoned stub using weblinks for description and examples. I suggest the salvage yard.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1362: Apr 3rd 2020 at 10:49:01 AM

Let's bomb UsefulNotes/Fascism, since UsefulNotes.Fascism has been made.

[up][up]I think "first friend at a new school" is far enough removed from the original concept of the trope that you can justify starting fresh. The draft is in bad shape anyway; I'd just link it in the comments as the inspiration.

Edited by Synchronicity on Apr 3rd 2020 at 12:57:57 PM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#1363: Apr 3rd 2020 at 2:02:11 PM

[up] I also PM'd Xfllo about it since she was interested in the original draft, and she also encouraged me to start over, so that's what I'll do.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
ElBuenCuate Since: Oct, 2010
#1364: Apr 6th 2020 at 2:07:05 PM

I bring some new draft to check, mostly no-effort ones.

Edited by ElBuenCuate on Apr 19th 2020 at 11:09:24 AM

Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1365: Apr 6th 2020 at 2:33:07 PM

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1366: Apr 8th 2020 at 11:08:12 AM

The others I bombed for being abandoned stubs.


And my own contributions:

Edited by Synchronicity on Apr 8th 2020 at 1:50:16 PM

HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#1367: Apr 8th 2020 at 10:32:49 PM

I don't think Musical Structure and Form is a Useful Note so much as a misplaced Wikipedia entry, at least in the sense that what's there is such specialized information that it's not really relevant to anyone who isn't a music theorist or trying to pass themselves off as one.

It's certainly a UN if the page is going to exist, but I don't know that it really fits the stated purpose of Useful Notes — the information may be completely correct, but the topic is at best only tangential to the site's mission.

In any case, I bombed them all except the Aircraft Carrier one, because if an aircraft carrier gets destroyed, that's a pretty significant occurrence narratively. It's the nautical equivalent of getting your base blown up.

Edited by HeavyMetalHermitCrab on Apr 8th 2020 at 12:57:56 PM

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#1368: Apr 12th 2020 at 7:35:33 AM

Thoughts on Should Have Seen This Coming?

Last activity was in 2014, it's a Stock Phrase title...

Maybe it's tropable, but if it's to be kept it needs a rename.

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HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#1369: Apr 12th 2020 at 10:14:22 AM

[up] Looks like a downplayed version of Didn't Think This Through to me.

ElBuenCuate Since: Oct, 2010
#1370: Apr 12th 2020 at 12:40:50 PM

[up] I have to agree. Not seeing much difference.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#1371: Apr 12th 2020 at 12:55:03 PM

In that case, time to bomb.

The draft has two hats, so seven bombs will be required. I got us started with one.

Edited by Berrenta on Apr 12th 2020 at 2:58:30 PM

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Brainulator9 Short-Term Projects herald from US Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Short-Term Projects herald
#1372: Apr 12th 2020 at 3:28:17 PM

Bombed the stock phrase.

Edited by Brainulator9 on Apr 12th 2020 at 6:58:58 AM

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HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#1373: Apr 15th 2020 at 5:47:13 AM

Discarded Do you even know how to use that thing? and Crossroads of Destiny.

As for yarding Do You Even Know... under Unexpected Skill, that sounds awful close to Suddenly Always Knew That.

Serac she/her Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#1374: Apr 20th 2020 at 5:01:56 PM

Here's another batch.

Edited by Serac on Jun 3rd 2020 at 1:35:34 PM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1375: Apr 20th 2020 at 8:36:48 PM

Yard candidates

  • Eastern Religions are Just Better: I've definitely seen orientalist storylines where Westerners get really into Buddhism or Hinduism; ties in with tropes like Magical Asian, Bourgeois Bohemian, etc. But this is an abandoned stub with no examples.
  • Lelouch Face: Blatant Trope Namer Syndrome (I think this is what they mean), with no examples, but I "a face that's so distorted by wrath/anger/grief that almost looks narmy" has a kernel of tropeworthiness. [down] fixed
  • Pals with a Professor: "Younger character is friends with an older professor/scientist character" duo is definitely a reoccurring pattern...problem is that all the examples in the comments and draft are ZCE.

Motion to discard

Probably not outright discardable but I don't think they would work anyway:

  • Woobieville: Everyone in the work is The Woobie, a trope which is already YMMV. The not-YMMV is Dysfunction Junction, where everyone has a troubled past.
  • Guitars: A useful notes page about guitars...
  • White Hair, Enigmatic Heart: The very vague and broad laconicnote  already strikes me as an Appearance Trope Red Flag. We've already got Mystical White Hair for when white hair = outright supernatural.

Edited by Synchronicity on Jun 16th 2020 at 3:05:30 AM


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