Making disambigs for works that share names...

Series.Friend Or Foe doesn't have year info in its description, but Wikipedia says 2002, so we can disambig with that?

Edited by Malady on Apr 15th 2023 at 8:15:18 AM

Sounds good.

Literature.Greenwitch (1974) is a redirect to Literature.The Dark Is Rising

2010's is also the sequel to Literature.Green Angel, which puts both books on the page of the first book.

Should we disambig with Year Suffix, or something else?

Should Vegas just redirect to Las Vegas, since they have the same items now? Or should we remove some from some?

Just considering a page for the first X-Men: Legacy comic. We need to disambiguate it from a later series that recycled the title, and debut year as suffix is the usual option.

However...

The first run of X-Men: Legacy (2008) was actually a New Season, New Name complete retool of the long-running X-Men (1991), with a title, creative team and cast change but continuing the old numbering etc.

Any concerns about using the year 2008 for a disambig suffix in this context, i.e. when it marks the year of the reinvention and title change, not the very start of the series?

VideoGame.Alice In Wonderland HOG and the VideoGame.Alice In Wonderland 2010 I just requested, are actually both made in 2010.

Is that a disambiguation clarity issue, and perhaps the Alice In Wonderland 2010 stuff should be Alice In Wonderland Tim Burton or something, instead?

VideoGame.Alice In Wonderland 2010 is specifically an adaptation of Film.Alice In Wonderland 2010, so I think it can stay where it is.

Alternatively, it can be VideoGame.Alice In Wonderland Etranges Libellules, but that's hard to spell.

Alice In Wonderland 1985 is a Film and unrelated Video Game. Move where?

Film as (CBS) and Video Game as (Commodore 64)? Or (Windham Classics)?

Parasol Parachute and Sizeshifter.

Edited by Malady on Apr 22nd 2023 at 7:31:32 AM

I wonder if Film.The Black Panther sounds similar enough to Franchise.Black Panther to warrant a disambig page, or just a note that they're unrelated.

I think just a note will do.

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 24th 2023 at 12:16:37 PM

- Thanks!

Opinions on where to move VideoGame.Alice In Wonderland 1985?

Looking for easy moves... Music.Chris Wood and Creator.Chris Wood Actor exist. Should we move the Music somewhere else? If so, what do we call it?

Musician?

Myself, I'd consider un-disambiging the actor, since it doesn't look like there are other non-musician creators by that name and creator pages don't typically collide with work pages (Music in this case). But if the musician page were to be disambiguated, then going off Wikipedia's listings for "Chris Wood"s in music, I'd say Music.Chris Wood Folk

- Is that sufficiently different from the namespace as to not be repeating? I dunno.

Well, neither have sub-pages, so any reason not to cut the Creator.Chris Wood redirect and move the Actor there?

Edited by Malady on Apr 29th 2023 at 1:50:37 AM

Speaking of creator/work collisions, Creator.Action Pack (which has Trivia and YMMV) collides with Fanfic.Action Pack and WesternAnimation.Action Pack (neither of which have subpages).

Creator.Action Pack Universal, Fanfic.Action Pack Shade Penn, WesternAnimation.Action Pack 2022?

VideoGame.Sorcery got turned into a disambiguation page... except only one of these games currently has a page, with the rest being red links. We're not allowed to preemptively disambiguate like that, right?

By the way, while Literature.Sorcery does exist, the video game (the one that has a page here) is based on the books, and if I remember correctly, that means it's okay for them to not be disambiguated.

Yeah, that's bad. There's no wick confusion to justify preemptively like this.

I've moved it back.

We have two work pages called By Any Other Name: a 2020 fanfic and a 2013 novel. Since there's another novel with the exact same name too, I think a disambig would be good to have.

- If you can make a wick to the other By Any Other Name novel, then a disambig makes sense to tell people that it exists.

The first two series of ComicBook.Silk are posing some problems - they're both from the same publisher (Marvel), with similar creative teams, and both were started in 2015 (one ended in 2015, the other in 2017).

Marvel's own website now disambiguates them as (2015A) for the first and (2015B) for the relaunch, which we could use... but that doesn't feel very intuitive and I haven't seen anything similar elsewhere on TV Tropes.

The collection of the first series is The Life and Times of Cindy Moon, so we could use Silk: The Life and Times of Cindy Moon.

However, we'd still need something to call the other one, which doesn't have an equivalent subtitle. Using 2015 would still be inappropriate, wouldn't it? We could use (2015-2017) but, again, that's an approach I've not seen elsewhere.

Any thoughts?

Edited by Mrph1 on May 13th 2023 at 8:34:55 PM

2015A and 2015B seem like the best options.

Any thoughts on how we approach RuPaul's Drag Race?

It's now an international empire with at least fourteen different Reality TV shows, mostly country-specific variants (eleven of which have some sort of TV Tropes presence) and even more of them due to launch.

As a consequence, we need to draw a distinction between RuPaul's Drag Race (the 2009 series which launched it all, which acts as a "Drag Race USA" country-specific show) and "RuPaul's Drag Race", the franchise as a whole... which isn't a Franchise in TV Tropes terms, as it's all live action TV.

As the USA show came first, I think the usual rule is that it can keep the name and adaptations/sequels acquire the suffix?

If it makes a difference, some of the international shows don't have RuPaul's name in the title, as that's only for the ones he personally judges - so Series.Drag Race might be an option for the umbrella page (and is how The Other Wiki currently does it).

Does that sound like a plan?

Given they're also officially endorsed, I'll use them, then. If we end up moving later, they'll still be valid redirects as official disambig names.

Thanks!