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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5676: Dec 8th 2017 at 9:47:09 PM

[up][up] Also, please add Ridiculously Long Uh and Extremely Short Intro Sequence as well. Thank you.

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5677: Dec 9th 2017 at 5:17:02 AM

Recap.I Have No Idea What Im Doing looks like a misplaced example, sent namespace notifier

The one example on YMMV.Family Guy S 16 E 1 Emmy Winning Episode may not have enough information to make sense in later years since it makes reference to current events

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5678: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:08:21 AM

Please don't merely report stuff. Like, let's actually tackle some of these tropes.

Update on the backlog:

    Playing Catch-Up 
The following are from this post and are primarily just listed here in order to not lose anything. No tallies counted in this folder!

This list ends at this post.

Still on the table and possibly ready to get resolved:

Seems to have been resolved, or Sent Back and later Launched (need to double check before removing this from the list, though):

Brought up but not on one of my update posts or in the sandbox:

I'm starting to think that we should just cut any works page that's been reported and abandoned. wdyt

Apparently Abandoned Pages

I think these pages could just be cut for still having problems after all this time. In order to be fair about this, I think only pages that are works pages that have had ample time to be fixed ought to be on this list. I'd consider a page "abandoned" if the only most reent edits were (a) 6+ months ago and/or (b) only minor clean-up (e.g. namespacing, formatting, wick clean-up).

I mean, if the page creators don't care enough to do the work, then...

This first list is just testing the waters here, and some of these pages may not actually be "abandoned." I'm just listing pages that were reported some time ago and that still have problems.

EDIT: I replaced the list that was here with a more organized list. None of the pages were removed, but they were categorized.

edited 9th Dec '17 4:04:39 PM by WaterBlap

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5679: Dec 9th 2017 at 3:13:40 PM

[up] I do thankyou very much (just one example - Yakuza: Dead Souls had one ZCE example before I crosswicked several examples), the stub page notifier links to this thread and as it says stub works need to be processed here, especially if the editor has problem so the Mods can take care of it

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#5680: Dec 9th 2017 at 7:00:32 PM

I can see why you might think that was a personal comment to you, since your comment came right before mine, but I really was not talking to you — or anyone — specifically.

I was trying to say "Hey, look how many dozens of tropes and works we have on our plate right now; could you (general you) comment on some of the things we have on the table so we can send stuff to the cut list or back to TLP?"

I wasn't talking about wiki-side stuff but thread-side stuff, like the discussion of these wiki pages.

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5681: Dec 10th 2017 at 4:34:42 AM

ARTV has one example and a ZCE, sent stub notifier

Down the Rabbit Hole has no tropes, sent stub notifier

Dangan Ronpa Bounded Rationality is all ZC Es, sent ZCE notifier

Characters.Flatline Syndicate doesn't have any obvious indications of a work page it is connected to

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#5682: Dec 10th 2017 at 5:32:37 AM

Flatline Syndicate does exist. It's a Tumblr roleplay. I'll PM the troper who made the page about making a Roleplay/ page.

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#5683: Dec 10th 2017 at 10:42:01 PM

Just bumping for the unlaunching of Ridiculously Long Uh, Extremely Short Intro Sequence, and Sensual Massage.

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5684: Dec 11th 2017 at 4:26:39 AM

Nightwatch (1994) has two near ZC examples, sent stub notifier

Analysis.Hunter X Hunter one sentence recommending a YouTube video, I haven't viewed the the video but but anyone nice enough to be reading this of whether it suitable as a page

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#5685: Dec 11th 2017 at 4:48:00 AM

I'll message the creator of the analysis page.

edited 11th Dec '17 4:49:04 AM by Berrenta

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#5686: Dec 11th 2017 at 8:32:01 AM

Extremely Short Intro Sequence had everything removed and replaced with "This page was prematurely launched. Unlaunch this please." a few days ago. The examples have since been added bac but that line is still on top.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5688: Dec 12th 2017 at 12:39:40 PM

I've been saying for a while that any stub work should get a message, then cutlisted if not de-stubbed in 3-7 days. In fact, apply that to every single work page Water Blap mentioned. I'll gradually get through the tropes. By the way, we really need more people to comment on newly-launched tropes that have been brought up. Including mods, for that matter. These tropes get launched, come up here the next day, and then just fester and spread through the wiki because we can't take action because only two or three people comment on them.

Speaking of which, there's a weird situation with Music.Jacob Elmer. Someone made a TLP for it. Then zarpaulus made a stub (one-line description, no tropes) and told the OP not to use TLP and just launch the stub. That seems... odd.

  • Cut
◦ Cast from Calories
  • Agreed
◦ Cast From Stamina
  • Agreed
◦ Robots Are Just Better
  • Agreed
• TRS? ◦
  • Sekaikei Genre
    • Seems fine enough.
◦ Where They Were
  • If we can just cut it, cut it. It's so stubby and hasn't been edited in years.
◦ Mystery Arc
  • I say just cut. It's stubby to the point of useless.

Seems to have been resolved, or Sent Back and later Launched (need to double check before removing this from the list, though): • Pain to the Ass

  • Agreed
• Webcomic.Space Boy
  • I don't remember discussion, but sure.

Brought up but not on one of my update posts or in the sandbox:

  • Orientalism
    • Seems fine.
• Athens and Sparta (discussed a bit)
  • Definitely send back. Name alone is garbage and utterly non-indicative. I thought it was a Useful Notes page, but apparently it's about "two states that contrast each other" if the examples are anything to go by. Which doesn't even fit the description.
• Order Is Not Good (discussed a bit)
  • Seems fine enough.
• Puzzlement About Payment (discussed a bit)
  • Garbage stub. Send back.
• Pregnancy Test Plot
  • Furry Lens:
    • send back to TLP for its premature launch, OP ignoring comments, and godawful name.

Gradually going to get through these: • Extreme Speculative Stratification • Magic or Psychic? (discussed a bit) • Useful Notes.LGBT Community (discussed and seemed to be in favor of unlaunching but nothing happened?) • Public Hater, Private Fan • Adaptational Nice Guy • Adaptational Jerkass • Evil Counterpart.Tropes • Literature.Two Thousand One Hundred Fifty AD • Rivalry As Courtship • Romantic Pseudo Fantasy • Bakacast • TB Abrams • Judicial Wig • Caught in the Ripple • Sentient Stars • Furry Lens • Characters.Terra Ignota • Web Video.Viga Loves Comics • Literature.The Apartment On Third Street • Film.Whered You Go Bernadette • Film.Jodorowskys Dune

edited 12th Dec '17 1:11:46 PM by Larkmarn

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5689: Dec 13th 2017 at 4:44:53 AM

/All Aboard has no tropes, sent stub notifier - it also has a blank ImageLinks/ page, a Memes/ page that is a list with no context and a Characters/ page with ZC Es (the editors other page, Absolute Danganronpa2b Together We Fall, also has problems)

YMMV.Robot X Laserbeam is one Unfortunate Implications that might need a citation, it says the offending material was withdrawn but I don't know if that is enough for the Mods

edited 13th Dec '17 4:59:30 AM by jormis29

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DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#5690: Dec 13th 2017 at 3:24:43 PM

I agree on cutting all the newly launched tropes Larkmann mentioned. Especially Where They Were, since it is "Where Are They Now?" Epilogue but more specific. Ending tropes can apply regardless of whether they are ending tropes for a smaller work in a larger series or for the series in general.

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5691: Dec 14th 2017 at 4:42:49 AM

FanWorks.Titanic Despair looks like it is in the wrong namespace, no tropes a blank page at Fanfic.Titanic Despair, no link to the work, almost no description, etc, etc

Octafonic has no tropes, sent stub notifier

edited 14th Dec '17 4:59:20 AM by jormis29

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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5692: Dec 14th 2017 at 5:27:07 AM

I don't know what's wrong with Pregnancy Test Plot though. Why the cut?

EDIT: Okay, chairs are the reason. Even I wasn't 100% sure if pregnancy tests were tropeable when I launched it, except just to add to the drama/hijinks for a expecting woman.

If I may, should this be cut, add this to the Trope Epitaph:

  • Here lies Pregnancy Test Plot - It was aborted.

edited 14th Dec '17 5:32:40 AM by alnair20aug93

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#5693: Dec 14th 2017 at 6:31:22 AM

On All Canadian Police Are Mounties:

That's weird. All Canadian Police Are Mounties was launched by Toxic Holy Grenade months ago, yet the draft is without the "Troped" mark... Was the launched trope a duplicate or something?

Also, do we need to transplant the description to the draft?

edited 14th Dec '17 6:36:45 AM by alnair20aug93

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#5694: Dec 14th 2017 at 6:39:33 AM

And I know that it's been four months, but can some of the drafts launched by Toxic Holy Grenade be unlaunched, since they were improperly launched?

To recall, the launched tropes were All Canadian Police Are Mounties, Disgruntled Chef, Jerk-to-Nice-Guy Plot, and Friendship as Courtship; the last two don't have drafts, yet it's been stated that they have been launched from YKTTW.

edited 14th Dec '17 6:48:09 AM by alnair20aug93

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#5695: Dec 14th 2017 at 6:48:59 AM

At this point I'd say "If they were abandoned, not crosswicked, or complete, or if they have significant problems, then I'd vote to send back. Otherwise, keep."

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#5696: Dec 14th 2017 at 7:06:04 AM

There are only a few wicks on the tropes mentioned. And I think Jerk-to-Nice-Guy Plot sounds similar to Took a Level in Kindness, or it's just me.

And I've checked the TLP Launch List, and these tropes are not there.

edited 14th Dec '17 7:15:36 AM by alnair20aug93

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5697: Dec 14th 2017 at 7:37:54 AM

Ooh, I forgot what tropes were launched and I got ninja'd, LOL. I could support sending those back. There apparently is a bug in TLP where if you don't technically finish the whole process, the draft doesn't say "launched" and it stays in TLP even though the page is up. Not sure if that's what happened.

On another note Brig Ball Bouncing was just launched with a terrible name (I honestly thought it was a case of Trope Namer Syndrome because "brig ball" sounds like it could be a thing, but apparently it is not). People in the draft were still talking about the name when it was launched (as recently as December 5, by the way). The launcher pretty much ignored those comments.

Also, it had 6 hats and 2 bombs, leaving it with a net of 4 hats. Somebody pointed this out to the launcher and he responded by saying "as far as i know those 2 discards do not automatically cancel out 2 of the 6 hats." They were recently suspended and told to "please try to learn the protocols if you want to keep participating." This rhetoric of "as far as I know" seems to be more "Rookie Mistake" Excuse.

edited 14th Dec '17 7:38:49 AM by WaterBlap

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Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#5698: Dec 15th 2017 at 12:47:19 AM

Codiekitty was created over 2 years ago and has pretty much zero tropes that aren't Zero Context Examples.

I sent the person that created the page an editing message 3 days ago but they haven't responded.

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5699: Dec 15th 2017 at 3:25:48 AM

Jojostuck has no tropes, sent stub notifier

Chessington World of Adventures has no tropes, sent stub notifier

Underfell has only three ZC Es

The Toymakers Workshop is all ZC Es

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5700: Dec 16th 2017 at 3:46:37 AM

When you add a bomb it literally says "you're saying this draft has a launch hat it doesn't deserve"... The system isn't great but it'd sure work a lot better if people read.

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