Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches
Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
Recap.I Have No Idea What Im Doing looks like a misplaced example, sent namespace notifier
The one example on YMMV.Family Guy S 16 E 1 Emmy Winning Episode may not have enough information to make sense in later years since it makes reference to current events
Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need SummaryPlease don't merely report stuff. Like, let's actually tackle some of these tropes.
Update on the backlog:
This list ends at this post.
Still on the table and possibly ready to get resolved:
- Cut
- TRS?
Seems to have been resolved, or Sent Back and later Launched (need to double check before removing this from the list, though):
Brought up but not on one of my update posts or in the sandbox:
- Webcomic.Yingandyan
- Orientalism
- Athens and Sparta (discussed a bit)
- Order Is Not Good (discussed a bit)
- Puzzlement About Payment (discussed a bit)
- Extreme Speculative Stratification
- Film.Peeples
- Magic or Psychic? (discussed a bit)
- UsefulNotes.LGBT Community (discussed and seemed to be in favor of unlaunching but nothing happened?)
- Literature.Robins In The Night
- Film.Crazy Beautiful
- Public Hater, Private Fan
- UsefulNotes.William Tecumseh Sherman
- Adaptational Nice Guy
- Adaptational Jerkass
- Pregnancy Test Plot
- Webcomic.The Fairy Warriors (also note the capitalization issue)
- Webcomic.Beyond Bloom
- Anime.The Dream Machine
- Webcomic.NEO
- Webcomic.Kindred Skies
- Webcomic.Xylia Tales
- Webcomic.Karis
- Webcomic.Magiversity
- Webcomic.MINIBOSS
- Website.Inter NIC (discussed a bit)
- BrokenBase.Samurai Jack (brought up for being too short)
- FanFic.Skippers Log
- Literature.HERO Superhero Novels
- Evil Counterpart.Tropes
- Literature.Two Thousand One Hundred Fifty AD
- Weboriginal.Morphers
- Manga.Made In Abyss (according to this post there was plagiarism on this page, so I'm listing it just in case we missed that)
- Rivalry as Courtship
- PlayingWith.Mortal Kombat X One Liners
- WesternAnimation.Guardians Evolution
- Romantic Pseudo Fantasy
- Bakacast
- TB Abrams
- Judicial Wig
- Caught in the Ripple
- Sentient Stars
- Quotes.Richard Dawkins
- Film.The Big Blue
- Furry Lens
- Characters.Terra Ignota
- WebVideo.Viga Loves Comics
- Literature.The Apartment On Third Street
- Film.Whered You Go Bernadette
- Film.Jodorowskys Dune
I'm starting to think that we should just cut any works page that's been reported and abandoned. wdyt
Apparently Abandoned Pages
I think these pages could just be cut for still having problems after all this time. In order to be fair about this, I think only pages that are works pages that have had ample time to be fixed ought to be on this list. I'd consider a page "abandoned" if the only most reent edits were (a) 6+ months ago and/or (b) only minor clean-up (e.g. namespacing, formatting, wick clean-up).
I mean, if the page creators don't care enough to do the work, then...
This first list is just testing the waters here, and some of these pages may not actually be "abandoned." I'm just listing pages that were reported some time ago and that still have problems.
EDIT: I replaced the list that was here with a more organized list. None of the pages were removed, but they were categorized.
- Last (Salient) Edit in 2015:
- Film.Peeples (2 edits)
- Last (Salient) Edit in 2013:
- FanFic.Skippers Log (on July 5, 2013)
- Last (Salient) Edit Before 2013:
- Webcomic.Magiversity (the only salient edit here is the first edit in 2012)
- Only One Edit in History:
- Literature.Robins In The Night (May 2017)
- Webcomic.Kindred Skies (March 2017)
- Webcomic.Karis (March 2016)
- Weboriginal.Morphers (July 2017; technically there are two edits here but one is just deleting blank paragraph breaks)
- Literature.The Apartment On Third Street (August 2017)
- Fewer than Five Edits in History:
- Film.Crazy Beautiful (2 edits, May 2017)
- Webcomic.The Fairy Warriors (2 edits, June 2017)
- Webcomic.Beyond Bloom (3 edits, May 2017)
- Webcomic.NEO (4 edits, June 2017)
- Literature.HERO Superhero Novels (3 edits, March 2014)
- WesternAnimation.Guardians Evolution (3 edits, July 2017)
- WebVideo.Viga Loves Comics (2 edits, March 2013; created by viga so this seems like the creator made it)
- Film.Whered You Go Bernadette (3 edits, August 2017)
- Film.Jodorowskys Dune (4 edits, November 2017; one edit is a null edit)
- Fewer than Ten Edits in History:
- Webcomic.Xylia Tales (6 edits, January 2017)
- Webcomic.MINIBOSS (8 edits, June 2017)
- Website.Inter NIC (5 edits, July 2017; 3 edits were mod or system background stuff and 1 seems to have been a vandal)
- Film.The Big Blue (5 edits, September 2016)
edited 9th Dec '17 4:04:39 PM by WaterBlap
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyI do thankyou very much (just one example - Yakuza: Dead Souls had one ZCE example before I crosswicked several examples), the stub page notifier links to this thread and as it says stub works need to be processed here, especially if the editor has problem so the Mods can take care of it
Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need SummaryI can see why you might think that was a personal comment to you, since your comment came right before mine, but I really was not talking to you — or anyone — specifically.
I was trying to say "Hey, look how many dozens of tropes and works we have on our plate right now; could you (general you) comment on some of the things we have on the table so we can send stuff to the cut list or back to TLP?"
I wasn't talking about wiki-side stuff but thread-side stuff, like the discussion of these wiki pages.
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyARTV has one example and a ZCE, sent stub notifier
Down the Rabbit Hole has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Dangan Ronpa Bounded Rationality is all ZC Es, sent ZCE notifier
Characters.Flatline Syndicate doesn't have any obvious indications of a work page it is connected to
Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need SummaryFlatline Syndicate does exist. It's a Tumblr roleplay. I'll PM the troper who made the page about making a Roleplay/ page.
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyJust bumping for the unlaunching of Ridiculously Long Uh, Extremely Short Intro Sequence, and Sensual Massage.
ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔Nightwatch (1994) has two near ZC examples, sent stub notifier
Analysis.Hunter X Hunter one sentence recommending a YouTube video, I haven't viewed the the video but but anyone nice enough to be reading this of whether it suitable as a page
Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need SummaryI'll message the creator of the analysis page.
edited 11th Dec '17 4:49:04 AM by Berrenta
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportExtremely Short Intro Sequence had everything removed and replaced with "This page was prematurely launched. Unlaunch this please." a few days ago. The examples have since been added bac but that line is still on top.
The three requested unlaunches have been executed.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I've been saying for a while that any stub work should get a message, then cutlisted if not de-stubbed in 3-7 days. In fact, apply that to every single work page Water Blap mentioned. I'll gradually get through the tropes. By the way, we really need more people to comment on newly-launched tropes that have been brought up. Including mods, for that matter. These tropes get launched, come up here the next day, and then just fester and spread through the wiki because we can't take action because only two or three people comment on them.
Speaking of which, there's a weird situation with Music.Jacob Elmer. Someone made a TLP for it. Then zarpaulus made a stub (one-line description, no tropes) and told the OP not to use TLP and just launch the stub. That seems... odd.
- Cut
- Agreed
- Agreed
- Agreed
- Sekaikei Genre
- Seems fine enough.
- If we can just cut it, cut it. It's so stubby and hasn't been edited in years.
- I say just cut. It's stubby to the point of useless.
Seems to have been resolved, or Sent Back and later Launched (need to double check before removing this from the list, though): • Pain to the Ass
- Agreed
- I don't remember discussion, but sure.
Brought up but not on one of my update posts or in the sandbox:
- Orientalism
- Seems fine.
- Definitely send back. Name alone is garbage and utterly non-indicative. I thought it was a Useful Notes page, but apparently it's about "two states that contrast each other" if the examples are anything to go by. Which doesn't even fit the description.
- Seems fine enough.
- Garbage stub. Send back.
- Cut for being People Sit On Chairs. It's a very specific chair, but it's chairs nonetheless.
- Furry Lens:
- send back to TLP for its premature launch, OP ignoring comments, and godawful name.
Gradually going to get through these: • Extreme Speculative Stratification • Magic or Psychic? (discussed a bit) • Useful Notes.LGBT Community (discussed and seemed to be in favor of unlaunching but nothing happened?) • Public Hater, Private Fan • Adaptational Nice Guy • Adaptational Jerkass • Evil Counterpart.Tropes • Literature.Two Thousand One Hundred Fifty AD • Rivalry As Courtship • Romantic Pseudo Fantasy • Bakacast • TB Abrams • Judicial Wig • Caught in the Ripple • Sentient Stars • Furry Lens • Characters.Terra Ignota • Web Video.Viga Loves Comics • Literature.The Apartment On Third Street • Film.Whered You Go Bernadette • Film.Jodorowskys Dune
edited 12th Dec '17 1:11:46 PM by Larkmarn
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them./All Aboard has no tropes, sent stub notifier - it also has a blank ImageLinks/ page, a Memes/ page that is a list with no context and a Characters/ page with ZC Es (the editors other page, Absolute Danganronpa2b Together We Fall, also has problems)
YMMV.Robot X Laserbeam is one Unfortunate Implications that might need a citation, it says the offending material was withdrawn but I don't know if that is enough for the Mods
edited 13th Dec '17 4:59:30 AM by jormis29
Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need SummaryI agree on cutting all the newly launched tropes Larkmann mentioned. Especially Where They Were, since it is "Where Are They Now?" Epilogue but more specific. Ending tropes can apply regardless of whether they are ending tropes for a smaller work in a larger series or for the series in general.
FanWorks.Titanic Despair looks like it is in the wrong namespace, no tropes a blank page at Fanfic.Titanic Despair, no link to the work, almost no description, etc, etc
Octafonic has no tropes, sent stub notifier
edited 14th Dec '17 4:59:20 AM by jormis29
Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need SummaryI don't know what's wrong with Pregnancy Test Plot though. Why the cut?
EDIT: Okay, chairs are the reason. Even I wasn't 100% sure if pregnancy tests were tropeable when I launched it, except just to add to the drama/hijinks for a expecting woman.
If I may, should this be cut, add this to the Trope Epitaph:
- Here lies Pregnancy Test Plot - It was aborted.
edited 14th Dec '17 5:32:40 AM by alnair20aug93
ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔On All Canadian Police Are Mounties:
That's weird. All Canadian Police Are Mounties was launched by Toxic Holy Grenade months ago, yet the draft is without the "Troped" mark... Was the launched trope a duplicate or something?
Also, do we need to transplant the description to the draft?
edited 14th Dec '17 6:36:45 AM by alnair20aug93
ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔And I know that it's been four months, but can some of the drafts launched by Toxic Holy Grenade be unlaunched, since they were improperly launched?
To recall, the launched tropes were All Canadian Police Are Mounties, Disgruntled Chef, Jerk-to-Nice-Guy Plot, and Friendship as Courtship; the last two don't have drafts, yet it's been stated that they have been launched from YKTTW.
edited 14th Dec '17 6:48:09 AM by alnair20aug93
ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔At this point I'd say "If they were abandoned, not crosswicked, or complete, or if they have significant problems, then I'd vote to send back. Otherwise, keep."
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyThere are only a few wicks on the tropes mentioned. And I think Jerk-to-Nice-Guy Plot sounds similar to Took a Level in Kindness, or it's just me.
And I've checked the TLP Launch List, and these tropes are not there.
edited 14th Dec '17 7:15:36 AM by alnair20aug93
ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔Ooh, I forgot what tropes were launched and I got ninja'd, LOL. I could support sending those back. There apparently is a bug in TLP where if you don't technically finish the whole process, the draft doesn't say "launched" and it stays in TLP even though the page is up. Not sure if that's what happened.
On another note Brig Ball Bouncing was just launched with a terrible name (I honestly thought it was a case of Trope Namer Syndrome because "brig ball" sounds like it could be a thing, but apparently it is not). People in the draft were still talking about the name when it was launched (as recently as December 5, by the way). The launcher pretty much ignored those comments.
Also, it had 6 hats and 2 bombs, leaving it with a net of 4 hats. Somebody pointed this out to the launcher and he responded by saying "as far as i know those 2 discards do not automatically cancel out 2 of the 6 hats." They were recently suspended and told to "please try to learn the protocols if you want to keep participating." This rhetoric of "as far as I know" seems to be more "Rookie Mistake" Excuse.
edited 14th Dec '17 7:38:49 AM by WaterBlap
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyCodiekitty was created over 2 years ago and has pretty much zero tropes that aren't Zero Context Examples.
I sent the person that created the page an editing message 3 days ago but they haven't responded.
Jojostuck has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Chessington World of Adventures has no tropes, sent stub notifier
Underfell has only three ZC Es
The Toymakers Workshop is all ZC Es
Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need SummaryWhen you add a bomb it literally says "you're saying this draft has a launch hat it doesn't deserve"... The system isn't great but it'd sure work a lot better if people read.
OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Also, please add Ridiculously Long Uh and Extremely Short Intro Sequence as well. Thank you.
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