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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
The former, I think.
She / Her
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I feel that fits Metafictional Device because that example you brought had him interacting with some text.
EDIT: Adding an arrow.
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Nov 16th 2022 at 4:18:12 AM
She / Her
To my knowledge, no; They Killed Kenny Again involves the character's deaths being a Running Gag and not just a one-time occurrence.
Can you please elaborate? I'm a little confused, is all.
The laconic and description seem to say that They Killed Kenny Again is about a character dying and coming back alive with no explanation repeatedly as a Running Gag, which is what Swag does in the video, so I don't understand how it doesn't fit. However, it may be that it is not clear enough what's happening or the video, or that I am not understanding the correct meaning of the trope.
"Squid has to go to market. He's had to go to market for as long as he's sucked water."
She / Her
Never mind, I misread it and it counts.
Alright, thanks for the response. I was confused and wanted to make sure I wasn't somehow misreading or overlooking a major element of They Killed Kenny Again.
She / Her
You're welcome.
Got something else from Resident Evil 7: Biohazard:
- The Unreveal: Lucas betrays the Connections toward the end of the 7 storyline, attempting to sell off his data on Eveline to an unknown buyer. Who this client is isn't revealed. Eerily, Nikolai would follow up on a similar plot thread that would go unresolved despite Raccoon City chronologically being decades backward. This hints at a possible connection.
I'm not certain if the revelation of the client's identity is ever set up to be revealed. This just seems like someone trying to connect two unrelated things
◊note . RE3R takes place in 1998 while RE7 takes place in 2017 meaning that it's not possible for these two things to be connected. Maybe a misplaced WMG?
Is this Human Resources, for drinking something that came from a human? Or do we have something for drinking blood specifically?
Oh, The Secret of Long Pork Pies. Gonna maybe link Soylent Green there.
- Sunset Overdrive: The Blue Haze drink ads, whose tagline is "Who may have thought this was made out of blood, right?" with a footnote / fine print on its "Want more? Become a donor!*" saying "* To become a donor just fill the empty can with your blood and bring back to store!
Edited by Malady on Nov 17th 2022 at 11:39:36 AM
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Certified Badassatron
Can The Stinger be a Big-Lipped Alligator Moment if the plot of the work is properly wrapped up beforehand and the scene otherwise fulfils the requirements of the trope?
I don't actually have any Bumblebee icons, I just think the nickname is funny.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
I'd say no, mostly because part of a BLAM is that the scene never gets referenced again — and a stinger, by nature, is the end of the work, so when would it be referenced again?
he/him
This one's just been added to Immortal X-Men - I'm inclined to delete it, but want to double-check as it's not a trope I've run into before.
- Character Check: Issue eight as a flashback to Mr. Sinister's life in Victorian London serves as a reminder of his original more serious characterization before his current Agent Peacock Large Ham characterization as codified by Gillen and Hickman. It also tries to reconcile the two differing takes on the character by explaining that Essex was originally stable for a given value of the word but his Victorian values, obsession with trying to better himself, and Apocalypse's empowering of him created a Jekyll & Hyde situation with Essex and Sinister. The campy supervillain emerged as an alter who indulged in all the passions and wild impulses that Essex didn't want.
The bits of Character Check that make me doubt this are:
"A Character Check is when the writer realizes the character is no longer behaving the way they were first portrayed, and tries to cover it up by throwing in a scene in which the character ostentatiously reverts to form."
and
"Someone may have changed over time, but can still fall back on old habits now and again."
So... firstly, this is a flashback to who he was in the 1890s, not the modern version of the character reverting to his old persona.
Secondly, that version of Sinister dies at the end of the story, in the 19th century. And one of the reveals in recent comics has been that there have been at least half a dozen clones replacing him since then, with variations made to each version. So I don't think the reconciliation needs that sort of explanation.
Thoughts?
YMMV Check thread is basically dead? Are these valid or too much about the person and not the music?
- In 2000 when Hillary Clinton announced her intention to run for the US Senate, she intended to have Billy Joel's "New York State of Mind" played at the conference. Due to a mixup with a confused staffer and a copy of 'Billy's Joel's Greatest Hits Volume 1' instead of playing track 5, they ended up playing track 2- "Captain Jack", which is about a life ruined by heroin dependancy. Whoops.
- During a Russian concert, he flipped his shit when lights were shone on the audience. He threw a tantrum onstage (though he claims to have thrown a PIANO in the process) and kept beating on his crew members while still performing "Sometimes a Fantasy", during which he smashes a microphone stand in half and sings with it a la Freddie Mercury. Singing Is A Free Action?
Billy Joel: When am I gonna take control, get a hold of my emotions? STOP LIGHTING THE AUDIENCE! Why does it only seem to hit me in the middle of the night? STOP IT! You told me there's a number I can always dial- LET ME DO MY SHOW, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! I don't want to deal with outside action; only you can give me satisfaction...
Edited by Malady on Nov 17th 2022 at 4:12:16 AM
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I brought up this example a while ago [1] and I got two different responses. One said it counted, while the other said it did not.
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
In the movie Film.Spirited 2022, the phrase Good Afternoon is treated as the Victorian London version of telling someone to go F-k themselves. Is this more Gosh Dang It to Heck! or Unusual Euphemism?
Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Nov 18th 2022 at 8:44:57 AM
The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
I’ll use that one for now.
She / Her
(x5) I feel they're more about the moments in question instead of him or his music. I'm unsure if they count because of that, though.
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
Another one for Film.Spirited 2022, but it’s very spoilery.
The Ghost of Christmas Present turns out to be Ebenezer Scrooge himself. Does this count as Canon Character All Along?
The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.
I fix my examples all the time
Found this example in When She Smiles.
- Devil May Cry:
- Lady is so hardened she rarely smiles at all in Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening, at least until the anime where she softens up and gives a big radiant smile◊ at one point.
- Vergil almost never smiles during the entire series, but in Devil May Cry 5, he lets a smile cross his face◊ when facing his Worthy Opponent brother.
- Lady is so hardened she rarely smiles at all in Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening, at least until the anime where she softens up and gives a big radiant smile
Edited by ElRise on Nov 19th 2022 at 12:43:01 AM
Graffiti Wall
She / Her
The Ghost of Christmas Present is an already established character, so that doesn't count imo.
I'm pretty sure it's fine to remove examples that don't ft all criteria, unless the criteria is optional. However, the criteria for When She Smiles isn't optional.
I think that may be worthy of a similar but separate trope