Do you have trouble remembering the difference between Deathbringer the Adorable and Fluffy the Terrible?
Do you have trouble recognizing when you've written a Zero-Context Example?
Not sure if you really have a Badass Bookworm or just a guy who likes to read?
Well, this is the thread for you. We're here to help you will all the finer points of example writing. If you have any questions, we can answer them. Don't be afraid. We don't bite. We all just want to make the wiki a better place for everyone.
Useful Tips:
- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Also, many oft-misused tropes/topics have their own threads, such as Surprisingly Realistic Outcome (here) and Fan-Preferred Couple (here). Tropers are better able to give feedback on examples you bring up to specific threads.
For cleaning up examples of Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard, you must use their dedicated threads: Complete Monster Cleanup, Magnificent Bastard Cleanup.
Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
BaseBreakingCharacter.Steven Universe:
- On the whole, Garnet was always well-liked in the fandom, but especially so since her nature as a fusion was revealed. As time has gone on, some have begun to see her as a Creator's Pet whose flaws and mistakes are glossed over in a way that never applies where the rest of the characters are concerned. And that's without touching her status as a permafusion or how healthy Ruby and Sapphire's relationship is or isn't.
I've never heard those complaints. If anything the complaints are that Garnet barely seems like a character on her own without Sapphire and Ruby.
Discord: Waido X 255#1372 If you cant contact me on TV Tropes do it here.That's a misuse of Creator's Pet.
Check out my fanfiction!I removed it and linked back to this thread.
Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢If I nix Creator's Pet and rework it, problem solved? It's as much of an example as any of the other Crystal Gems.
edited 8th May '18 11:53:28 PM by Spacecoyote
I think the page in general needs a rework, actually. Or maybe just an update.
Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢From YMMV.Sister Claire
- Base-Breaking Character:
- As detailed below and above, Oscar. Who is either a kickass, empowering breath of fresh air, or a fairly bland character who has all but supplanted Claire as protagonist due to Author Appeal.
- A close second is Hanabi. Opinion on her falls into two usual camps. One side sees her as a flawed, but well-meaning Witch just looking out for the others. The other see her as a self-rationalizing, unrepentant kidnapper and attempted murderer.
A reminder that we have a thread for Base-Breaking Character. And for Broken Base, The Scrappy, Creator's Pet... You know, all of these hate tropes.
Check out my fanfiction!Thanks for the tip.
Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢Do male tortoiseshell and calico really count under Animal Gender-Bender? They're possible, just very rare.
Grotesque shoehorn. Chop.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Is this example of Hype Backlash that was just added to YMMV.TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild being used correctly?:
- * Hype Backlash: Near-perfect scores? Check. Glaring flaws despite perfect scores? Check. A fandom that was notorious for attacking reviewers if they so much as gave it a 7 out of 10? Check.
The same Troper also added this example under Never Live It Down on the same page, so it may be someone with a personal bone to pick:
- ** The fandom won't live down the time Jim Sterling's site got DDOSed because he gave it a 7 out of 10.
edited 9th May '18 6:26:47 PM by ADrago
In addition to the fact that it's clearly somebody soapboxing, I'm pretty sure that's not actually what Hype Backlash means. (Although to be honest I'm not really sure what Hype Backlash does mean in terms of using it for examples instead of just a definition page).
Umh on Kid Icarus Uprising this is on the charcter page of Medusa
- Generic Doomsday Villain: Played with. Medusa has a defined personality, but is mostly characterized by her lifelong grudge against Pit and Palutena and has no real goals beyond taking revenge on them.
I think the example seems to contradict whether its an example within itself.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."I don't think she fits. Maybe in the original, which had far less defined characters, but not in Uprising.
Check out my fanfiction!Medusa has a defined personality and motive, which means she isn't a Generic Doomsday Villain since a GDM is a villain with no defined characterization and/or motives.
With Invincible Hero does the invincibility need to be prolonged, or can it apply starting just any old time people start feeling that the hero kills tension?
Reference: Raisin the Empoleon in Team Four Star Nuzlocke Playthroughs, which has been overleveled for about two or three episodes and has been getting lots of criticism based on this.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!From KarmaHoudini.Animated Films:
- Atlantis The Lost Empire:
- All of the specialists who took part in Rourke's get-rich plan that ends up with the king of Atlantis dead, all so they can steal Atlants's treasure, are Easily Forgiven (and very richly rewarded) for having a last minute twinge of conscience. Granted, they initially thought they were just going to be doing some elaborate grave-robbing from a long-dead civilization. Murder wasn't on their to-do list.
- The Leviathan is a non-human example, having massacred nearly all of the 200-man crew aboard the Ulysses, and for all we know, it's still out there preying on unsuspecting trespassers.
I belive only villains apply. Also, the last part argues agains how evil they were, the kings murder was not their doing and motivated their Heel–Face Turn, and doesn't saving the day break them even karma-wise? And doesn't Karma Houdini require human intelligence and agency, because the Leviathan seems to only have attack dog intelligence if not just following programing.
So it's been about 4 days, is there any chance someone could take a look at the example I posted above? x19
For Retroactive Recognition, does that apply to former child stars who would later on become famous actors when they have reached adulthood?
For example, in Ultraman Dyna, the childhood version of Ryo Yumimura is played by Eri Kitamura back when she's a child star, under the stage name "Eri Okamura".
- Fandom Berserk Button: Calling out the show for giving its female characters "only one body type" is known to annoy a large number of fans, especially since there are other girls in the show that don't have Hartman Hips, like Dendy, Potato, Miss Mummy, Fink, Foxtail, Blue Power, and Green Guts.
That is an objective mistake, so it's a valid example.
I thought so. What about this one from the same page?
- A minor example, but fans of the show have been extremely defensive of its art style, which, despite looking overly simplistic, is all drawn traditionally and hand-inked with black markers, and have notoriously blasted any and all criticisms simply because of the effort the animators put in.
That's not a mistake. Burn it with fire.
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Are the following examples being used correctly?:
From Sonic and the Freedom Fighters -- Blue Horizon:
From X-Women:
edited 8th May '18 3:15:48 PM by Anddrix