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    • Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
    • Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
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    • Wrong: Badass Adorable
    • Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM

CanuckMcDuck1 Everybody, Everybody! from Free Country, USA Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: Hiding
Everybody, Everybody!
#31252: Apr 9th 2024 at 9:49:45 PM

number9robotic: It would need more consensus than just a trope talk, but I think NFT-focused games have come and gone, even if I don't think you can include an entire format as a turn-off (unless it's already precedented with something like loot-boxes).

gjjones: The Faceless (in my opinion) is more about a character who is continually unseen. If their face is shown later, it's more of a Reveal, or a sub trope of that.

LordJaric: Family is an emphasized part of the trope, but maybe in those circumstances.

Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on Apr 9th 2024 at 10:52:08 AM

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TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
#31253: Apr 10th 2024 at 6:30:23 AM

Sonic the Hedgehog has this:

  • Aluminum Christmas Trees: Though they don't have most of Knuckles' abilities, nor do they look anything like him, echidnas are a real animal.

This trope is when a story element that exists in real life is assumed to be fictional by the audience. Are echidnas really that unknown?

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#31254: Apr 10th 2024 at 6:37:39 AM

cut it, if someone thinks echidnas aren't real animals it's their problem

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#31255: Apr 10th 2024 at 7:41:53 AM

Yeah, Australia would like a word...

Cut.

227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Jul, 2018
I hate spoilers
#31256: Apr 10th 2024 at 10:54:39 AM

Regarding Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba, I've been pondering if Nezuko becoming immune to the Sun is an Ass Pull since it's not listed as one on the YMMV page. Thinking about it, we clearly see her start to disintegrate as she's exposed to the Sun, and there's even a Good-Times Montage to make us think that she's going to die. Her final gesture towards Tanjiro suggests that she's prepared to Face Death with Dignity.

I've heard some people say that the reason for this is the Blue Spider Lily that makes you a demon grew in the Kamado's neighborhood, which means Nezuko might've eaten it in some fashion at some point. The problem with this is the location of the flower wasn't revealed until the epilogue.

Everyone look at my sandbox
CSS1 Since: Mar, 2021
#31257: Apr 10th 2024 at 12:05:10 PM

I’m thinking of adding this to The Holdovers. Does it fit?

  • Blank Book: When Paul is packing up after having been let go, Mary shows up to his door. She gifts him a book, just like Paul did earlier in the movie. But when Paul flips through it, confused, Mary explains that it’s for him to write his monograph in.

Edited by CSS1 on Apr 10th 2024 at 12:07:42 PM

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#31258: Apr 10th 2024 at 12:54:31 PM

Just wrote this example but I'm having second thoughts about where to put it.

  • The Kept Man of the Princess Knight: Matthew's female friend Vanessa, the Adventure Guild's appraiser, is an otherwise-intelligent woman who has had a string of worthless boyfriends that mooch off her income and frequently cheat on her, without her ever seeming to learn anything from each relationship. Watkin was a violent drunk who finally punched the wrong guy and was disappeared by a mobster, Tiny had a gambling habit that ended with him getting his arms cut off, Olaf cheated on her until he died of an STD, Oscar was a drug dealer who was trying to extort sex from Arwin when Matthew first met her and was then killed off by a rival gang, and her current squeeze Sterling is a Giftedly Bad Starving Artist who found Oscar's stash and has been selling it.

I have it under Fool for Love but I'm wondering if it ought to be on Love Makes You Dumb instead. The description for the former is more than a little confusing.

CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
Am I a weirdo?
#31259: Apr 10th 2024 at 1:56:41 PM

[up]I think that's an accurate example. The distinction seems to be that she's someone who refuses to acknowledge the red flags that she probably should have learned by now, and that she keeps on trying after every failed romance.

[up][up]I'm not seeing any issues.

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Agentofchaos A God Am I from Somewhere in the Universe Since: Dec, 2021
#31260: Apr 10th 2024 at 1:58:58 PM

Reposting

Does Adaptational Nationality apply to different versions of books? In Alex Rider the villain of the first book is Lebanese in the original British release but in the American release he's Egyptian

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mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Lots of coffee
#31261: Apr 10th 2024 at 2:41:23 PM

Re: #31251: I thought cultural pressure to get married before you have a kid also fell under the scope of Shotgun Wedding? it outright says in the description:

Nowadays, a "shotgun wedding" seldom involves actual firearms; the phrase is a euphemistic way to refer to any couple that gets married because the girlfriend is pregnant. When characters in older media talk about "having" to get married, this is what they mean. The couple's parents may not be incensed nor the prospective groom unwilling, but there is still a sense of compulsion involved, since the couple may not have married so soon — or at all — if not for the unexpected pregnancy.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#31262: Apr 10th 2024 at 2:48:04 PM

[up][up][up]All right, I'll leave it then. I think the Laconic needs to be taken to the improvement thread, though, and I might run a wick check this weekend.

CSS1 Since: Mar, 2021
#31263: Apr 10th 2024 at 3:43:29 PM

[up][up][up][up] The issue is, I don’t know whether Blank Book applies to things like unused notebooks, i.e., books which are intentionally sold blank, to be written in.

CanuckMcDuck1 Everybody, Everybody! from Free Country, USA Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: Hiding
Everybody, Everybody!
#31264: Apr 10th 2024 at 3:50:19 PM

AgentOfChaos: I don't see a problem with it, even if it's an unusual use of the trope.

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Mattman_the_Storyteller Since: Aug, 2018
#31265: Apr 10th 2024 at 5:51:34 PM

Al McWhiggin's character profile lists this trope.


Does this really count as an example? Even if Stinky Pete did it for his own reasons, Al and Stinky Pete both want the entire Woody's Roundup Collection to be taken to the Toy Museum, and when Al fails to deliver them, he is seen weeping on TV. They both want the same thing for their own reasons, and both need Woody to stay in the apartment.

CanuckMcDuck1 Everybody, Everybody! from Free Country, USA Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: Hiding
Everybody, Everybody!
#31266: Apr 10th 2024 at 6:26:22 PM

[up]Yeah, Al and Stinky Pete are working for the same goal, just separate from each other.

The series Wings has a zero-context example for Tomboyish Name for a character named Alex. Is Alex a usually masculine name?

Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on Apr 10th 2024 at 7:26:35 AM

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mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Lots of coffee
#31267: Apr 10th 2024 at 6:46:31 PM

I think Alex might count depending on how it's played, i.e. if the character actually is tomboyish. The page lists it as a Real Life example of a name that became more gender-neutral with time.

Re: Al and Stinky Pete: Do we have a trope for "characters aide each other working for the same goal but at least one of them is unaware of it"?

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Ayumi-chan Aramis from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
#31268: Apr 10th 2024 at 9:53:00 PM

Found this on Characters.Fire Emblem Three Houses Ashen Wolves which I'm unsure of.

  • Has a Type: Over half of her romantic paired endings are with explicitly bisexual men (Male Byleth, Jeritza, Yuri) and two out of three of her (platonic) same-sex endings are with explicitly bisexual women (Edelgard, Mercedes).

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Biggby Since: Sep, 2023
#31269: Apr 11th 2024 at 8:04:00 AM

Unsure if this trope fits cause I saw an example of it that is just like this example, but the description of the trope makes me a bit uncertain. From To Serve In Hell

  • Put Them All Out of My Misery: Cheese Sandwich believes that the world is so fundamentally broken that nothing can fix it, and his overarching plan is to unleash a great monster to just destroy it all because he thinks it's preferable to living in a broken world.

IronAnimation Since: Jan, 2012
#31270: Apr 11th 2024 at 8:49:44 AM

^^ that could fit if their bisexuality is played as part of the appeal for the person. Although if there was evidence for that, they would probably have included it.

Insufficient context and unconvincing as written, so I think it can be cut.

Edited by IronAnimation on Apr 11th 2024 at 8:53:20 AM

Lermis Purposefully Untitled from Out of touch with reality Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Purposefully Untitled
#31271: Apr 11th 2024 at 2:09:32 PM

Annoying Background Event only has this line as a description:

A repetitive event in the background slowly drives characters up the wall.

I'm copy-pasting this because I want to know if the neighbors having an argument during an important scene could count as an "annoying background event". Because by the name of the trope alone it should, but it says repetitive...

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Ripperdipdipper Since: Mar, 2024
CSS1 Since: Mar, 2021
#31273: Apr 12th 2024 at 2:52:09 PM

I want to add this comic as a listed example to Cheap Gold Coins, but I’m not sure if I should list it as an Inversion, or a Deconstruction.
What do y’all think?

Edited by CSS1 on Apr 12th 2024 at 3:19:13 AM

CanuckMcDuck1 Everybody, Everybody! from Free Country, USA Since: Sep, 2023 Relationship Status: Hiding
Everybody, Everybody!
#31274: Apr 12th 2024 at 3:13:01 PM

[up][up]Technically, even if it’s not the focus of the scene and she’s only imprisoned for thirty seconds.

[up]Unless it's an image link, you should probably ask the Image Suggestion thread over on Image Pickin'.

If it’s just an image link, than I think it works.

Edited by CanuckMcDuck1 on Apr 12th 2024 at 4:17:04 AM

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Kahran042 The Topic Slayer from New Hampshire Since: Jun, 2012
The Topic Slayer
#31275: Apr 12th 2024 at 3:41:45 PM

On the page for Ellen and Otis, the example for Gone Horribly Wrong reads as follows:

Ellen Tebbits's plan to bring in a beet blossom to class results in her making her clothes filthy from digging the beet up, and getting beet juice all over her dress. Plus she almost gets in a lot of trouble for taking the beet without permission, and does get written up for arriving to school late.

However, she isn't shown being written up, and she does get to clap erasers during recess, which is why she brought the beet to school in the first place. So, does this really count as an example of GHW, or is it some other trope?

Edited by Kahran042 on Apr 12th 2024 at 7:49:08 AM

Oh no! The DREADED AQUAE MORTIS! No, wait, it's just your imagination.

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