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- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
Just added this Discontinuity example to YMMV.Scootertrix The Abridged and I'm wondering if it should perhaps be Canon Discontinuity rather than Fanon? The example:
- Fanon Discontinuity: Courtesy of Jack Getschman himself, oddly enough. In the commentary track for episode 2 he jokes that it's no longer necessary to watch episode 1 at all: episode 2's Previously on… montage covers everything that's actually relevant from the first episode, and it's better-paced, to boot.
For context, Jack Getschman is the head writer, video editor, and voice actor most of the main cast; he's the closest thing to the "main" creator of this Abridged Series. So it feels a bit weird to call anything he says about his own series "fanon". But on the other hand, Getschman hasn't leveraged his authority as the creator to properly canonize this discontinuity. Episode 1 is still right there on the official series playlist on youtube, and there aren't any contradictions or retcons in later episodes to suggest any of episode 1 has been removed from canon.
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
Apollo 13 has a subplot for Marilyn Lovell, unable to get any updates out of NASA regarding her husband's safety and trying to manage her family's emotions and keep the press out of their home. Is this an example of Keep the Home Fires Burning?
The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable
Bumping this again since I still haven't gotten a response.
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If your bumping the one about Central Theme, then it seems stuck over the issues with An Aesop such I'd advise waiting until that TRS.
It's not Canon Discontinuity for what you described and the previously on acknowledges it still happened. But it's not Fanon Discontinuity as it's not about what the works fans as opposed to the author think (if fans agreed with them it would be valid). Slow-Paced Beginning might be a better fit.
I'm not bumping that one. I'm referring to the Promotion to Parent and Vocal Evolution ones
Would this count for Already the Case:
- An episode of Perfect Strangers had Larry, Balki, Jennifer, and Mary Ann take a trip to a ski lodge where their cabin gets buried by an avalanche. Larry and Balki try to dig an escape tunnel, but only manage to tunnel back to the buried cabin. Larry is about to give up when Balki gives him a speech on perseverance. He concludes the speech with "If George Washington had given up at Valley Forge, we'd all be speaking English now!"
Am I a weirdo?
Ayumi-chan: I agree that the Promotion to Parent example is misuse. As for the Vocal Evolution example, I think you've misread the description, which seems to suggest that it's just about any sort of changes in how a character is voiced over time. It's probably an example.
Bigotry will NEVER be welcome on TV Tropes.
- Foil: Callum further develops into one for Claudia after the Timeskip. While both are skilled mages who can be pushed to extreme deeds on behalf of their loved ones, Claudia has always resorted to Dark Magic without hesitation, while Callum will only ever used it when he has no choice. Furthermore, Callum is selfless in his motivations, using the power for the sake of others even at great personal cost, whereas Claudia will even go against her family's wishes to save them, because she doesn't want them to leave her. They also have differing dynamics with their siblings. Claudia is the younger child who refused to go with her older brother when he switched sides. Callum on the other hand is the older child, and has remained devoted to his little brother throughout the show.
Edited by Avenger09 on Aug 16th 2023 at 6:19:20 PM
Officially intimidated
Assuming the examples are valid (I'm not familiar with the work so I can't tell), they do at least need to be indented properly.
135 - 169 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300
She / Her
Assuming they've interacted (which is a requirement), I feel it counts, though the indentation is incorrect either way.
Bumping
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I fix my examples all the time
Agreed with the reasons you stated.
She / Her
Trying to find some Epiphorae, quite sure this isn't one, but not 100%.
- Lyttle Lytton Contest: The third third-place winner of 2007, by Bret Victor, using "cake" repeatedly to emphasize the topic:
Emperor Wu liked cake, but not exploding cake!
Just a question, how does one qualify as a Spoiled Sweet? Because to quote SquarePegRoundTrope.Q To Z “misused for any rich or spoiled character who also happens to be nice or not a complete brat. Sometimes the character in question is just rich and nice without the spoiled part, which is not this trope.” But I’ve seen a decent amount of examples that simply state the character is a nice, rich girl. And in one case, it list a girl whose father is in a position of power without much elaboration on the rich or spoiled part.
But please correct me if I’m wrong.
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
Am I a weirdo?
Yeah, that feels like a bit of a stretch. It looks like the repeated element should be at the end of a line or sentence. It doesn't seem to include repetition within a single line or sentence. And there should probably be more than one syllable repeated at the end of each line or sentence.
Died During Production: Thankfully it was only for a few minutes but Bob Odenkirk really did die during “Point and Shoot”. He gives a lot of credit to Rhea Seehorn for “holding a dead man’s head up”.
Yeah, heart stopped does not mean dead.
Edited by randomtroper89 on Aug 16th 2023 at 2:13:27 PM
Lots of coffee
Very much not an example. The actor needs to, you know, die during production, and thankfully Odenkirk did survive.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
- Technology Marches On: Over 40 years later, the animated film has aged surprisingly well. Because of the lack of focus on humans and all the tech you see them using (shotguns, cars), this story could have been set in 2020 and it would still essentially look the same. For all you know the humans have smartphones and are on the Internet in the house.
I DOUBT this is an example.
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What is the correct indentation?
the Retromancer
Example Indentation in Trope Lists, one of the basics of editing. If there's one example, use one *. If there's more than one example, a trope name on * and everything else should be on separate **'s. No subpoints.
- While presenting the Republican Party's rebuttal to the January 2015 State of the Union Address, Iowa Congresswoman Joni Ernst shared a story of her humble beginnings, saying "Growing up, I had only one good pair of shoes. So on rainy school days, my mom would slip plastic bread bags over them to keep them dry.", prompting much confusion and ridicule since the way she said it made it sound like she only wore the bread bags instead of wearing shoes covered with bags.
Edited by randomtroper89 on Aug 16th 2023 at 12:03:35 PM
Am I a weirdo?
I'm not seeing what's ambiguous there either. I think you can delete that one.
Bigotry will NEVER be welcome on TV Tropes.
RJ Savoy
There may be something about the way she said it that made it misleading, but as written, it is not an example.
This is on WesternAnimation.Education For Death:
- Kids Are Cruel: But only because adults are just as cruel, if not worse. At worst, the grown-ups would actively brainwash their kids into burning books or replacing church icons with Nazi ones and throwing rocks through windows.
Shouldn't Kids Are Cruel be for when they are spontaneously cruel? This seems like Corrupt the Cutie, which is already there.
Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
(she/her)
If the children aren't shown to be inherently cruel, it's not an example. I'd remove that entry.
Macron's notes
While laconics should not be taken at face value, I agree that she does not seem to fit the trope. She was one of Azula's sidekicks for a reason.
Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 14th 2023 at 7:22:18 AM
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