Is this an example?

This thread moves fast. A lot of people's entries get overlooked since not everyone can help in every situation. It's normal, and not targeted.

The funny one is a bit of a ZCE (what makes it funny? focus on that) but the others seem fine, I guess.

Edited by WarJay77 on Jun 25th 2023 at 7:45:01 AM

Which means mine is fine to upload onto the website as a video example?

Then in that case I’ll upload that clip of Goku vs Superman 2 under Curb-Stomp Battle.

Edited by AlicornGaia on Jun 25th 2023 at 8:02:16 PM

I was going to cite the One Eye Army from The Thief and the Cobbler as an example of the A Thicket of Spears trope, but I’m not sure whether the weapon they’re using is actually a spear, or if that even makes a difference for purposes of the trope.

Here’s the scene in question. What do y’all think?

I think it’s a modified spear. You can also upload that part here if you so wish.

x5 STARCRUSHER answered you about the first one (disagree with it being an example), the other two look fine but please make sure the indentation level is correct on the page.

This was found in Brook's section in Characters.One Piece Straw Hat Pirates:

• Berserk Button:
  • How dare something turn up its nose after trying to eat him. Bone has plenty of nutritional value! (Becomes a case of Be Careful What You Wish For after encountering the canine Minks on Zou.)
  • On a more serious note, Zeo ordering his men to die and be martyrs seriously angered Brook, who told him off for treating death so lightly.
  • Black Maria and her subordinates trying to trick him with illusions of the Rumbar Pirates practically had him foaming at the mouth.

I wonder if any of these examples count, since Berserk Button is for when a person gets upset over a minor reason?

Reposting from the previous page.

From YMMV.Eternals 2021:

• Creator-Driven Successor: The book can be seen as one to Gillen's Journey Into Mystery run with Kid Loki. Both books feature immortal beings who try to change and reinvent themselves despite outside forces.

This feels like misuse - they're both part of the same continuity and Marvel Universe franchise (they're also both work for hire). Gillen's also returned to Loki via Young Avengers.

They do have some similar themes - immortals trapped in a role and trying to escape it and define themselves, rather than being defined by others - but I'm not sure that's enough?

Reposting, for the third time I swear: It's possible to get accidentally softlocked in the final chapter of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance if there are no methods of defeating the final boss (Ike doesn't have enough ATK even with the weapon needed, Ena/Nasir dead, Hard mode where the three endgame Laguz don't join until 2nd phase) - but I don't know if it's intentional (Unwinnable by Design) or accidental (Unintentionally Unwinnable)

Edited by JustNormalMusicLover on Jun 26th 2023 at 11:11:24 PM

If the game doesn't make a nod that you've got locked in impossible battle then it's clearly not intentional. But I don't know the game.

Starting point: unless there's some information you've left out, we have no (zero) actual evidence as to the devs' mental state when they constructed these levels. Therefore, we can't conclusively say whether they did this "intentionally" or "accidentally".

However, while the situation you describe comes entirely from purposeful game mechanics working as intended, it doesn't appear to have been constructed as a malicious trap. On the balance of probabilities, we'd file it under Unintentionally Unwinnable.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Jun 26th 2023 at 11:22:23 AM

I've got a YMMV.RWBY query about the following entry:

• Padding: This is one criticism of Volume 9, because even though Volume 9 contains some important Character Development for the members of Team RWBY, it does nothing to address the many unresolved plot points and Cliffhanger ending of Volume 8.

I'm not sure this is a genuine example of padding, which is supposed to be for something that could be removed from the story because it's pointless to the plot. Volume 9 was advertised prior to release as being a character driven arc for the main characters, to address the emotional fall-out from Volume 8's events (which had a "Ray of Hope" Ending). And that's exactly what the volume proceeded to do. It also gave the characters and audience new information about the setting that wasn't previously known, information that could — for the first time in the story — provide a solution to the fact that the Big Bad is an apparently Invincible Villain due to Complete Immortality.

The big complaint in the fandom about Volume 9 was that there weren't enough episodes to handle what was happening, and so the last few episodes ended up feeling rushed. Relevant to this entry, there were elements of the fandom who didn't like the volume because of the character/emotional focus and its isolation from the main setting/cast/plot. So, it's very much a rejected storyline by this part of the fandom. I think the entry wants to capture that complaint, but I think it's misusing Padding and a different audience reaction or YMMV item needs to be found.

Anyway, thoughts would be much appreciated.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Jun 27th 2023 at 6:25:54 PM

Cut it. That's just not what Padding actually is, and the entry even acknowledges that the characters undergo development.

So, two ideas suddenly popped up to me, and I thought I should at least ask if these examples count:

First, does Miles X Peni from Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse count as a Crack Pairing? There's a significant amount of art for that ship, but the two do know each other despite rarely interacting, and Miles has more interest in Gwen anyway, so... does it fit?

Second is mostly related to Miraculous Ladybug's Revolution, for the YMMV page:

Ladybug and Chat Noir unlock their adult powers as a result of being pushed to their limit after being captured by Queen Mayor's robots and start detransforming. Does this count as an Ass Pull? Because I don't remember the story stating that being pushed to the limit could cause a teenage wielder to unlock their powers prematurely, only that adult wielders don't have a time limit placed on their powers.

Too reasonable to be a Crack Pairing

And... the show has a sizable fandom. You can check up on the audience response for that plot development.

Could it be Ships That Passinthe Night? While Miles and Peni are friends, they aren't that close compared to Gwen and Peter.

Ships That Pass in the Night is supposed to be for borderline or complete strangers, or at least that's how I've understood it personally.

reposting again

The Runaways entry in Naturalized Name are all based on fan theory rather than anything shown in the comics itself. Remove?

• Runaways:
  • Karolina's parents are aliens from Majesdane. When they arrived on Earth, they adopted the names Frank and Leslie Dean. It's never been revealed what their real names are.
  • There's a longstanding theory among fans that Nico's family used to have a different surname, since "Minoru" is usually a male given name.
  • A similar theory holds that Victor Mancha's mother had a much more conventionally Mexican surname, but adopted the last name "Mancha" to conceal her criminal past.
  • And yet another theory postulates that Klara Prast's husband had a more conventionally German surname that was Americanized as "Prast".

Cut, cut, cut.

Worth noting that Karolina's just started a new story returning to her people - so we might get an answer. But we haven't yet.

We've met at least one of Nico's ancestors and no other name was given.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 27th 2023 at 12:55:11 PM

Bad "Bad Acting" is for when a work tries to show that a person can't act, but overdoes it so the "acting" is far worse than any amateur would be in real life (barring some exceptions.)

With that in mind, there is an episode of Frasier where the titular character has to perform a song that he had done many times before, but only switches to the song at the last minute and has no time to rehearse this performance. He ends up forgetting the words and mangles the song into complete gibberish.

While this is funny, I wonder if this counts as the trope as the effect is ridiculously over-the-top; someone who had performed a song live multiple times likely wouldn't flub the lines to such a horrible extent, even if they did have to throw it on at the last second.

So, it's an example of Bad "Bad Flubbing", I guess?

Can you have Composite Character for an entire nation or group? Or is it solely for individuals? The example is from Final Fantasy XVI. I originally thought to put it under Expy, but it was removed on the basis that something can only be an expy of one character.

• Composite Character: Sanbreque seems to be a mix of Ishgard and the Garlean Empire from Final Fantasy XIV. It possesses the shining knights, dragoons, theocratic society, and towering spires of the former, as well as the imperialistic ambition, slave-driving atrocities, and mistreatment of magic users of the latter. The emperors of Sanbreque and Garlemald are both addressed as "Your Radiance" by their subjects.

Edited by reppuzan on Jun 27th 2023 at 2:09:05 AM

Reposting:

Newly added to Fan Nickname:

...I know we generally dislike 'meta' examples. Does this one really count?

That strikes us as not what Fan Nickname is for, no.