Is this an example?

I'll crosspost this to the reality show cleanup thread as well, but given that's pretty quiet this thread may be better -

This is from Blair St. Clair's entry on Characters.Ru Pauls Drag Race Season 10:

Both tropes are No Real Life, and this is discussing the contestant rather than their drag queen persona. It was mentioned in the show, and reality tv shows are a grey area on some things - but Real Life Troping is also pretty clear about some of the limits.

I don't think we should ever be applying RapeAsDrama to a real person talking about their real history on a reality show.

Can I nuke both of these? If so, can I also take this as a precedent to cut RapeAsDrama anywhere else it's applied to a reality contestant's real life past?

Thanks.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 26th 2023 at 1:18:45 PM

Reposting from the previous thread.

From Film.Raiders Of The Lost Ark:

• What Happened to the Mouse?: After the German agent with the eye patch poisons the dates, he completely disappears. He isn't even shown mourning his monkey, who was accidentally killed by eating the dates.

In many stories, some characters enter the story, serve their role and move on without any fanfare. If they have served their purpose and exit the story, then it's not a What Happened to the Mouse? situation just because there isn't some final "where are they now" information given. This trope is for cases where a character simply disappears without reason or acknowledgment by the rest of the cast. Given that, does this example count?

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Please.

Sounds like a minor character whose role is served in that specific scene, and the entry state doesn't convincingly explain why he's expected to return about the donkey.

Edited by Tabs on Apr 26th 2023 at 8:33:10 AM

Is this How Do I Shot Web?? Having a power, but not using it effectively?

• Dungeon Keeper Ami: When first using her new fabric creation spell for clothing, Ami notes that she doesn't have enough practice at it to make comfortable clothes:
  Ami was tugging at her trousers to reduce the chafing. It seemed that the ability to just create her own clothing did not make up for a lack of experience and skill,

Edited by Malady on Apr 26th 2023 at 9:47:08 AM

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That a Zero-Context Example

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- Added more than the quote, does it count now? Or is the situation not a good fit?

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That seems more like she knows how to do the magic but lacks skill, not that she doesn't understand how to use it at all.

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I found this on Revenge of the Sith;

• More Popular Spin-Off: The film itself is generally rated "good, could be better": better than its immediate predecessors but not as good as the original trilogy. The novelization by Matt Stover is almost universally considered to far surpass the film it's based on and one of the finest single pieces of licensed fiction ever.

Does a novelization really fit this trope or something else?

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It seems more like an adaptation than a spin-off. A bit unfair too, the book has the plot structure already done in the film. It is understandable why it is considered better.

Edited by SoyValdo7 on Apr 27th 2023 at 2:26:25 AM

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From Invincible Iron Man (2022):

• Rogues' Gallery Transplant: Having been a major enemy of the Duggan-era of X-Men, Feilong is now clashing with Tony Stark here in his solo book. Justified, as Duggan co-created Feilong and is still writing X-Men alongside Iron Man.

Feels like misuse to me. Unless the villain (Feilong) is now more identified with the Iron Man franchise than the X-Men franchise, I don't think it counts?

In this case he's the first Arc Villain for the new Iron Man series, but only three issues are out, so it feels very premature.

And "justified" presumably needs an in-universe reason rather than a shared writer, which feels more like Creator's Favorite trivia, if anything?

Cut?

Is it an Actor Allusion when a voice actor uses a voice he used for one character with another character? Or is there a better trope. Because I noticed Alan Tudyk used the voice he used for Clayface in WesternAnimation.Harley Quinn 2019 for Valentino the Goat in WesternAnimation.Wish 2023.

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Dont think so.

I'd think they would have to at least recur in a significant capacity, not just show up for an few issues/an arc, otherwise every crossover in an inherently interconnected 'verse would count 🙃

Is he a Greater-Scope Villain?

Example: In "The Story of Alice, Bob And Their Friends"^note  Name is fictitious there is no definite antagonist, only episodic ones, but most of the episodic antagonists and most of the crimes they committed were under the guidance or manipulations of Samuel Mephisto.

Edited by Fidor on Apr 27th 2023 at 7:56:42 PM

Is Klaus (2019) an example Painted CGI? Or is it an inverse?

Far too soon to say. But in this arc he seems to be a direct threat, not greater-scope.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 27th 2023 at 7:19:42 PM

It looks like an example.

I haven't been able to find a trope of, "Weighs more or contains more mass than it looks.", but would it just be Bigger on the Inside?

Examples:

• In All-Star Superman, Superman changes the key to the Fortress of Solitude from a giant key to a small house key kept under a welcome mat. When Lois questions the security of this, Superman reveals that the key is forged from a piece of a dwarf star, meaning that it weighs half a million pounds. So only he and those as strong as him could possibly get lift it, much less get it to the door.
• In The Hammer (2022), a member of Wolf's gang attempts to pick up Tiny, but finds it impossible. This is because Tiny had perfected his Mana Body technique that fuses a replica of the user's body made of mana to the physical one, making him much stronger and heavier than he appears.
• In I Got A Cheat Ability Become Extraordinary Even In The Real World, the "World Strike" hammer weighs like an ordinary mallet when lifted into the air. But anyone on the receiving end would be hit with mass equivalent to an entire planet, crushing nearly anything it hits into nothingness.

On RWBY under Memetic Psychopath

• Ruby became this when she finally reaches her Rage Breaking Point in Volume 9 and sarcastically congratulates her sister's new relationship with Blake, thus sparking memes that she's homophobic and spewed out slurs when that didn't happen. A few memes go so far as to turn her into a Nazi.

Does this count?

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It's definitely not Bigger on the Inside, not sure if we have a trope for this.

Is Crime and Punishment actually an example of a Murderer P.O.V.? From the page:

• Murderer P.O.V.: Villain Protagonist plans his perfect crime, commits it, tries to evade the police, succeeds, but then confesses. The novel focuses on the inner turmoil the murder causes.

But the description of Murderer P.O.V. makes it look like it's specifically for detective shows where the main character is still the detective but there is a prologue sequence from the POV of the murderer, not for stories that are entirely in the POV of someone who murders someone else. Does this count?

Also, how far into the story are you allowed to appear while still being considered a Missing Mom or Disappeared Dad? I have been looking at Pantheon pages and Mufasa is listed as the god of Disappeared Dad, but he is very much present and only dies halfway through the movie, while I was under the impression a Disappeared Dad or Missing Mom had to not show up at all or at least show up for a very short time before dying or leaving.

Crime and Punishment absolutely set the golden standard for how Reverse Whodunnit's characterize their killers and their POV sequences, so I'd argue it counts. The segments between the protagonist debating the detective in charge of investigating his crime also draws heavily from Detective Drama tropes anyway, so it's not entirely disconnected from the genre.

Edited by crystalevo on Apr 27th 2023 at 3:39:53 AM

Unique Protagonist Asset is rarely on a work page, so I want some backup that the Swashbuckler Class and possibly also high Beauty, counts here, drawn off Lethal Joke Character:

• Epic: After the main character's latest character dies, he creates Cindella (from Sinbad the Sailor and Cinderella), a swashbuckler (very rare class choice), with all her points in the Beauty stat (usually dismissed as useless). It then turns out that the Swashbuckler has a lot of useful skills, and a high Beauty stat means that Non Player Characters give her preferential treatment, such as a jeweler giving her a powerful item that he didn't mean to sell.

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I'd say no. While it's theoretically possible that the protagonist is the only one in the story playing a character with that particular build, it doesn't seem like there's anything stopping any given side character from going in and making a copycat.

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Need some feedback for whether this example from Characters.Arcane Main Characters is correct.

• Rank Scales with Asskicking: Jayce is an inventor and nascent politician, but when Vi convinces him to hit Silco's Shimmer manufacturing plant, he personally leads the Enforcers with his freshly built hammer and handles himself pretty damn well for his first fight.

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